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Title: New mash tun build
Post by: chezteth on July 16, 2014, 10:27:29 PM
Greetings fellow homebrewers. I'm planning on building a new brew stand. I plan on buying 3 new kettles with ball valves. Is it possible to use a stainless braid with the kettle mash tun? Or, would it be best to get a false bottom? I'm afraid if I put a braid in it I won't get all the wort out of it if it doesn't sit in the bottom. Any suggestions?

Cheers,
Brandon
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: Jeff M on July 16, 2014, 11:09:34 PM
A Braid can pull as much wort out as a false bottom depending on the FB design and if it uses a pickup tube.  I use boilermakers and the pickup tube is a superb addition, but it can be rather hard to swallow the additional cost just for the added perk of not leaving 1-2G in a vessel.

What Brand will you be using?  It will determine how effective the FB available to use in it will be.
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: chezteth on July 16, 2014, 11:28:01 PM
I'm planning on getting a polarware 15 gallon kettle. The diameter of the kettle is 15.625". It is their economy kettle with a ball valve and bulkhead.

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Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: mattybrass on July 17, 2014, 04:16:15 PM
if you are planning on doing direct fire mashes the false bottom might be a nice thing to have since it would keep the grain off the bottom of the kettle.
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: chezteth on July 17, 2014, 04:20:46 PM
I won't be doing direct fire mashes so that is not a concern.

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Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: mattybrass on July 17, 2014, 07:00:48 PM
I won't be doing direct fire mashes so that is not a concern.

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a lot of people will use a machined street elbow as a pickup tube however with a false bottom you would need to have a hole custom cut to fit this.

http://www.stainlessbrewing.com/12-High-Flow-90-_p_162.html (http://www.stainlessbrewing.com/12-High-Flow-90-_p_162.html)

(http://www.stainlessbrewing.com/thumbnail.asp?file=assets/images/st.jpg&maxx=75&maxy=0)
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: S. cerevisiae on July 17, 2014, 08:10:56 PM
I'm planning on getting a polarware 15 gallon kettle. The diameter of the kettle is 15.625". It is their economy kettle with a ball valve and bulkhead.

While I am a huge fan of the restaurant-grade made in America BP-series Polar Ware kettles with factory welded fittings (see page #2 of this PDF: http://polarware.com/Vollrath-Files/Polar-Ware-Files/CAT_PW-Homebrew_En_NP_2013-08-22.pdf), I am not a fan of the economy line.  You can do much better for the money.  Bru-Gear offers a nice kettle at that price point.

http://www.bru-gear.com/store/p16/ProBoiler%28tm%29_15.html
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: 69franx on July 17, 2014, 08:21:12 PM
I'm planning on getting a polarware 15 gallon kettle. The diameter of the kettle is 15.625". It is their economy kettle with a ball valve and bulkhead.

While I am a huge fan of the restaurant-grade made in America BP-series Polar Ware kettles with factory welded fittings, I am not a fan of the economy line.  You can do much better for the money.  Bru-Gear offers a nice kettle at that price point.

http://www.bru-gear.com/store/p16/ProBoiler%28tm%29_15.html
Bru-Gear has great looking products, but I have yet to see mine. The kickstarter production delivery times have been delayed 2 months, hopefully coming next month. The supporter price was nice, with ball valve, thermometer, npt-TC adaptor, steps for false bottom support and all shiny stainless. From looking at their website, price has only gone up about $50 for a 15 gallon kettle. The main concern is how long it would take to take delivery, as production has not even been completed for the project supporters
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: narcout on July 18, 2014, 03:58:46 PM
I'm afraid if I put a braid in it I won't get all the wort out of it if it doesn't sit in the bottom. Any suggestions?

You can probably get the braid to sit on the bottom if you incorporate a 90 degree elbow.

Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: chezteth on July 18, 2014, 04:27:54 PM

While I am a huge fan of the restaurant-grade made in America BP-series Polar Ware kettles with factory welded fittings (see page #2 of this PDF: http://polarware.com/Vollrath-Files/Polar-Ware-Files/CAT_PW-Homebrew_En_NP_2013-08-22.pdf), I am not a fan of the economy line.  You can do much better for the money.  Bru-Gear offers a nice kettle at that price point.

http://www.bru-gear.com/store/p16/ProBoiler%28tm%29_15.html

What do you not like about their economy line?
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: Jeff M on July 18, 2014, 04:29:35 PM

While I am a huge fan of the restaurant-grade made in America BP-series Polar Ware kettles with factory welded fittings (see page #2 of this PDF: http://polarware.com/Vollrath-Files/Polar-Ware-Files/CAT_PW-Homebrew_En_NP_2013-08-22.pdf), I am not a fan of the economy line.  You can do much better for the money.  Bru-Gear offers a nice kettle at that price point.

http://www.bru-gear.com/store/p16/ProBoiler%28tm%29_15.html

What do you not like about their economy line?

YOu get what you pay for.  In the PW economy live i have seen a lot of thin bottomed pots that oilcan like a sonofagun.  Id prefer to not have a drum for a pot personally. 
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: chezteth on July 18, 2014, 04:29:48 PM
I'm afraid if I put a braid in it I won't get all the wort out of it if it doesn't sit in the bottom. Any suggestions?

You can probably get the braid to sit on the bottom if you incorporate a 90 degree elbow.

Good point. Definitely something to consider.
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: chezteth on July 18, 2014, 04:35:17 PM

YOu get what you pay for.  In the PW economy live i have seen a lot of thin bottomed pots that oilcan like a sonofagun.  Id prefer to not have a drum for a pot personally.

If I understand correctly...  The bottom will bow?
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: Jeff M on July 18, 2014, 04:37:56 PM
Correct, and it sounds like a gong when it bows back and forth. 
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: chezteth on July 18, 2014, 05:00:17 PM
What do you think of these kettles? Has anyone used these before? http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/brewing/brewing-equipment/brew-kettles/tall-boy-stainless-steel-brew-kettle.html

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Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: narcout on July 18, 2014, 05:20:13 PM
I don't have experience with them, but I would wager the NB tall boy kettles are of good quality. 

They sound a lot like the Megapot 1.2s but without the volume markers and the silicone covering on the handles.  I have two megapots (old versions, not the 1.2s), and they are built like tanks.

I take it you are planning to drill the holes yourself?



Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: chezteth on July 18, 2014, 07:26:14 PM
I don't have experience with them, but I would wager the NB tall boy kettles are of good quality. 

They sound a lot like the Megapot 1.2s but without the volume markers and the silicone covering on the handles.  I have two megapots (old versions, not the 1.2s), and they are built like tanks.

I take it you are planning to drill the holes yourself?

I can drill the holes myself. Although, I would prefer having the ball valves already installed. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: narcout on July 18, 2014, 08:56:06 PM
If you can do the drilling, you can save money by getting a tall boy kettle and purchasing the ball valve, bulkhead and barb from either www.bargainfittings.com or www.weldlessfittings.com.

If you don't mind spending the extra cash, you can buy a Megapot 1.2 pre-drilled with a ball valve from NB.

http://www.northernbrewer.com/shop/megapot-1-2-brew-kettle-with-ball-valve-brewing-thermometer.html

You pay a premium though. 

There are a bunch of newer kettles on the market that I'm not familiar with (stout tanks, spike brewing, blichman, etc.).  They are probably worth looking into as well.
Title: Re: New mash tun build
Post by: 69franx on July 19, 2014, 02:06:50 AM
Just got the Bru Gear update today: kettles are ready to ship next month. Just in Tim for summer brewing, oh wait a minute...


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