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Title: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: niquejim on November 11, 2009, 01:38:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsSYTaXY33M&NR=1

The remastered Beatle albums sound freakin awesome
Title: Re: Sounding great after all these years
Post by: The Professor on November 11, 2009, 04:39:22 AM
They certainly do...it took EMI quite a few years to finally get it right, but yes..."they done good". 
Best part is, the music itself  is as compelling as ever.
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: brewboy on November 13, 2009, 03:18:29 PM
Greatest rock band ever, IMO.
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on November 13, 2009, 03:58:33 PM
The remasters do sound incredible.  Unfortunately, the remastered package is $300+, which is a little disappointing to me.  I mean, I'd love to have the whole remastered catalog, but I can't shell out that kind of cash.
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: Steverino on November 13, 2009, 05:30:21 PM
I grew up in the era of the Beatles, but had sort of soured on them--probably from hearing the same few songs a few too many times. Listening to this set has really revived my love of this great band. It's easy to forget what a seminal group this was. Heard a BBC documentary recently about the effect of the Beatles in the USSR. An amazing story.
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: brewboy on November 13, 2009, 05:40:03 PM
I watched that special on PBS as well. Interesting stuff..
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: Brew.Drink.Repeat. on November 13, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
Unfortunately, the remastered package is $300+, which is a little disappointing to me.  I mean, I'd love to have the whole remastered catalog, but I can't shell out that kind of cash.

Huh? At Amazon, the mono (which is my preference) is $239, and the stereo is $179.

The mono CDs are not available individually, but if you're more interested in the stereo CDs just buy 'em one at a time -- the only thing extra you get with the box is a DVD with the little documentaries, and they are on the CDs in Quicktime format anyway.
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on November 13, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
Hmm...I was listening to Sirius the other day and the DJ said it was going to retail for over $300.  I guess he was wrong.
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: brewboy on November 13, 2009, 06:27:44 PM
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At Amazon, the mono (which is my preference) is $239, and the stereo is $179.

That's hilarious. I can remember when stereo albums first came out and you paid more for them then you did for mono.

Why would you want mono? I would think you could accomplish that with your system and still have stereo available if you wanted it.
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: Brew.Drink.Repeat. on November 13, 2009, 06:28:39 PM
Yeah, he clearly didn't look it up before he spoke...
 ???

Now, that's not to say they're cheap, of course... my autumn "buy what I want" budget took a hit from picking up the mono set, and I have a backlog of guitar parts that I had to put on hold until the new year. Sigh...
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: babalu87 on November 13, 2009, 06:32:09 PM
Greatest rock band ever, IMO.

Except they are a Pop band by todays standards

Led Zeppelin gets the crown as Greatest Rock Band
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: brewboy on November 13, 2009, 06:38:55 PM
It was rock when the Beatles started out. Pop might apply to their earlier stuff, but not later on.

I'd put Zeppelin into the hard rock category and I'd agree with you 100%. They were the best.
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: Brew.Drink.Repeat. on November 13, 2009, 06:46:52 PM
Why would you want mono? I would think you could accomplish that with your system and still have stereo available if you wanted it.

Not at all, the mono releases are not just stereo folded down or summed to mono. They are completely different mixes, and the only ones actually attended by the Beatles. In numerous interviews since then, all four Beatles and George Martin have repeatedly stated that they prefer the mono mixes, and if you really want to hear the albums the way they were intended that you needed them. The stereo mixes were done later, without the Beatles in attendance and often without George Martin there either. Given the prevalence of mono in the consumer market at the time, the stereo mixes were considered an afterthought.

In some cases the differences are striking. "She's Leaving Home" is at its natural pitch on the mono mix (it was slowed down for the stereo mix), the phasey effects on John's voice on "Lucy in The Sky" is so much more obvious. "Helter Skelter" is missing the "I've got blisters on my fingers!" ending, but sonically it is so much more powerful in mono.

Plus, for some of the songs with the extreme stereo separation (think "Rubber Soul" with all the vocals on one side and the instrumentation on the other) the mono presentation is much more direct and far less distracting. And even for the albums with "normal" stereo mixes (Sgt. Pepper, the White Album) I'm finding that I really prefer the overal sound of the mono mixes.
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: brewboy on November 13, 2009, 06:56:59 PM
I would think that the remastered stereo versions would be better mixed than the originals, but that's only a guess on my part.

I know what you mean about having all of the vocals on one side and this is pretty annoying. 
Title: Re: Beatles, Sounding great after all these years
Post by: Brew.Drink.Repeat. on November 13, 2009, 10:13:17 PM
I would think that the remastered stereo versions would be better mixed than the originals...

They are not remixed, only remastered. The mixes, both stereo and mono, are the same as the originals.