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Title: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on September 24, 2014, 03:26:17 PM
Looking for some ideas for fall/winter beer styles. I have an Oktoberfest on tap and a harvest porter in the fermenter. I would like to dedicate 2 of my 4 taps to maltier and/or darker beers this fall/winter but am having a hard time deciding. The other 2 taps will either be light and/or hoppy styles that I normally brew. Any ideas in addition to what I have below?

brown
oatmeal stout
black wheat (2nd attempt - don't ask)
black lager (schwarzbier)
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: HoosierBrew on September 24, 2014, 03:38:59 PM
Always good:

Dubbel
Quad
Bock (standard, dopple)
Wee Heavy
Old Ale
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: morticaixavier on September 24, 2014, 04:10:12 PM
I would want a nice winter warmer as well. something higher gravity but not over the top. just a nice sipper
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: duncan on September 24, 2014, 04:17:29 PM
I plan on brewing this dark, spiced "winter saison" in the next couple of weeks.

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/beer-recipe-of-the-week-saisonn-dhiver/ (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/beer-recipe-of-the-week-saisonn-dhiver/)

Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on September 24, 2014, 04:45:58 PM
a dark Belgian or winter warmer does sound good
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: ynotbrusum on September 24, 2014, 05:28:59 PM
Baltic Porter is good and you can have it ready in 3-4 months.  Or a dopplebock - but that might take a bit longer to hit its stride....
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on September 24, 2014, 05:30:25 PM
Baltic Porter is good and you can have it ready in 3-4 months.  Or a dopplebock - but that might take a bit longer to hit its stride....

Baltic Porter sounds great. That traditionally uses a lager yeast correct? I could build up some yeast from my planned black lager for that...
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: Joe Sr. on September 24, 2014, 05:39:37 PM
Yes. Lager yeast. I oaked it when I brewed one years ago.

Hoosiers list looks like a nice brewing schedule.



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Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: Joe T on September 24, 2014, 06:14:32 PM
To add a few:
Dunkel
Dunkelweizen
Brown porter
Mild
Goat Scrotum ale
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: pete b on September 24, 2014, 07:13:55 PM
Soon I will make a dark Belgian that I made last year with homemade shagbark hickory syrup. Earthy and  warming. Also a Braggot. That will be for January and February for sipping in front of the fire while reading. I've never done a winter warmer but 20 years ago my favorite beer for awhile was Samuel Smith's winter warmer. I'd like something like that for December.
Of course if winter is like last year I'll need to come up with winter beers for March and April. Screw it, if winter is like last year I'll just chug vodka... :'(
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: Joe T on September 24, 2014, 08:00:17 PM
Soon I will make a dark Belgian that I made last year with homemade shagbark hickory syrup. Earthy and  warming. Also a Braggot. That will be for January and February for sipping in front of the fire while reading. I've never done a winter warmer but 20 years ago my favorite beer for awhile was Samuel Smith's winter warmer. I'd like something like that for December.
Of course if winter is like last year I'll need to come up with winter beers for March and April. Screw it, if winter is like last year I'll just chug vodka... :'(
A friend made a beer with shagbark hickory syrup last year. It was very astringent. I believe it's made by boiling the bark and then adding sugar to the bark water make syrup. Seems like it pulls tannin out of the bark that isn't obvious in the syrup but reared it's head when the sugar was fermented.
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: pete b on September 24, 2014, 08:27:23 PM
Soon I will make a dark Belgian that I made last year with homemade shagbark hickory syrup. Earthy and  warming. Also a Braggot. That will be for January and February for sipping in front of the fire while reading. I've never done a winter warmer but 20 years ago my favorite beer for awhile was Samuel Smith's winter warmer. I'd like something like that for December.
Of course if winter is like last year I'll need to come up with winter beers for March and April. Screw it, if winter is like last year I'll just chug vodka... :'(
A friend made a beer with shagbark hickory syrup last year. It was very astringent. I believe it's made by boiling the bark and then adding sugar to the bark water make syrup. Seems like it pulls tannin out of the bark that isn't obvious in the syrup but reared it's head when the sugar was fermented.
I wonder how much he used. I believe I used it to replace a portion of the dark candi syrup. I did get tannins, which I wanted at a moderate level, but not to the point of tasting astringent. Tannins can be nice in a big beer, providing balance.
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: Joe T on September 24, 2014, 08:38:30 PM
Soon I will make a dark Belgian that I made last year with homemade shagbark hickory syrup. Earthy and  warming. Also a Braggot. That will be for January and February for sipping in front of the fire while reading. I've never done a winter warmer but 20 years ago my favorite beer for awhile was Samuel Smith's winter warmer. I'd like something like that for December.
Of course if winter is like last year I'll need to come up with winter beers for March and April. Screw it, if winter is like last year I'll just chug vodka... :'(
A friend made a beer with shagbark hickory syrup last year. It was very astringent. I believe it's made by boiling the bark and then adding sugar to the bark water make syrup. Seems like it pulls tannin out of the bark that isn't obvious in the syrup but reared it's head when the sugar was fermented.
I wonder how much he used. I believe I used it to replace a portion of the dark candi syrup. I did get tannins, which I wanted at a moderate level, but not to the point of tasting astringent. Tannins can be nice in a big beer, providing balance.
He used a quart of this: http://razzs.myshopify.com/ in 5 gallons.
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: kmccaf on September 24, 2014, 09:22:58 PM
I plan on brewing this dark, spiced "winter saison" in the next couple of weeks.

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/beer-recipe-of-the-week-saisonn-dhiver/ (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/beer-recipe-of-the-week-saisonn-dhiver/)

Go for it! I've brewed that one, and it is great.

I really like ESB, porter, and an IPA with fresh hops from the recent harvest. I also like to brew beers the previous winter/spring with autumn in mind such as braggot, burton ale, quad, and barley wine.
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: fmader on September 24, 2014, 09:56:40 PM
I love a black ipa for the transitional seasons.... And a good breakfast style stout.
Title: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: ajk on September 25, 2014, 12:06:51 AM
Soon I will make a dark Belgian that I made last year with homemade shagbark hickory syrup.
I did the same a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it.  Here (http://hickoryworks.homestead.com) is the syrup I used; no astringency issues.
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: pete b on September 25, 2014, 01:31:33 AM
I had not expected that the response to shagbark hickory syrup would be " yeah, I tried that". It turns out After checking my notes I used 2 cups, i presume at the end of boil, but also I racked into secondary with wood chips and a quart of shagbark hickory syrup. It sat for 6 weeks in secondary. It was really fantastic. It was the best big beer I have made. It had a strong alcoholic component which I'm sure was enhanced by the syrup in the secondary but wasn't what I would call "boozy".
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: majorvices on September 25, 2014, 11:15:39 AM
Bier de Marz is one I don't see on the suggestion list.
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: tommymorris on September 25, 2014, 12:58:09 PM
Nobody mentioned light lager. People love to drink that year round ;)
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: poobah58 on September 25, 2014, 01:35:31 PM
Chocolate Coffee Porter is to die for! I also make a spiced Belgian Dubbel for our annual XMAS party that's a big hit. Both great winter beers...
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: kylekohlmorgen on September 25, 2014, 02:58:30 PM
Did Barleywine make the list? You can brew one for next winter...

I dig on Flanders Red / Oud Bruin during the holidays. Especially those on the higher end of ABV, aged in bourbon barrels. Boulevard's 'Love Child' series is perfect for the holidays. Again, you'll be making one now for next year.

Dubbel and Dark Mild are good ideas for this year
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on September 25, 2014, 03:50:17 PM
Thanks for all of the ideas. I have a winter warmer of sorts that is basically a double red ale. I will probably only get around to a few so I am thinking

dark strong Belgian of some type
black lager
robust or Baltic porter (additions of spices or chocolate or coffee, etc.)
black IPA?
black wheat?

basically variations on 'black' beers...haha
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: beersk on September 25, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
If you do a coffee porter, consider using a quality decaf coffee bean. I do this personally as I don't want to be drinking caffeine at night.
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: chumley on September 25, 2014, 05:22:19 PM
Nobody mentioned light lager. People love to drink that year round ;)

+1.  I always try to have a keg of Bohemian pilsner on tap for the holidays.  Goes great with pickled herring.

I do think I will try brewing that Saison d'Hiver recipe that Duncan posted, though.
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: pete b on September 25, 2014, 06:06:46 PM
I plan on brewing this dark, spiced "winter saison" in the next couple of weeks.

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/beer-recipe-of-the-week-saisonn-dhiver/ (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipe/beer-recipe-of-the-week-saisonn-dhiver/)
That does look good. If I had to pick one style I would want to drink in December and July I think saison would be it.
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: Werks21 on September 26, 2014, 08:49:32 PM
Amber makes a good Fall/transitional beer and if your kegging you can be drinking it in no time flat. I'm about a week away from tapping a Fall Amber myself.
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: ibru on September 26, 2014, 10:19:15 PM
Fall/Winter beer I'm thinking a good rye IPA.

Now......if only there was a good recipe out there......


Bruce
Title: Re: fall/winter beer styles
Post by: erockrph on September 27, 2014, 01:52:17 AM
Just had some Sinebrychoff for the first time in a while. Baltic Porter now tops my list for cool weather beer.