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Title: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: beerrat on April 28, 2010, 04:41:41 pm
Interesting article on NPR site ...

Marmite, technically called "yeast extract," is basically what gets scraped from the bottom of the beer barrel. The British breakfast staple, which was originally sold in earthenware jars that resembled the French stockpot called a marmite, was born more than 100 years ago in a small town called Burton-On-Trent. B-on-T is also the birthplace of Bass Ale. Bass was there because the water was considered so fine. Marmite was there as Bass' garbage man: It created a use for spent brewer's yeast.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126307676
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: majorvices on April 28, 2010, 04:51:10 pm
Marmite tastes nasty. Know that.
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: dbeechum on April 28, 2010, 04:57:49 pm
Au contraire!

I love the stuff! Yes it's a strong and powerful taste that requires some getting to know and love, but like a hoppy beer - it's worth the pain.

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1267.0
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: beerrat on April 28, 2010, 08:00:38 pm
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1267.0

Thanks for the thread link.. I enjoyed...    so the question is, has anyone been nutty enough to spread their yeast cake on a sandwich or toast?  I'd imagine that here my be an added hoppiness to this vs the commercial version.  When I brew next i'll have to be a guinea pig on this one.

Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: dhacker on April 28, 2010, 08:52:58 pm
Doesn't the yeast flatulate more than flocculate at that point?   ;)
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Post by: The Professor on April 28, 2010, 10:36:45 pm
Marmite tastes nasty. Know that.

I like it.
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: karlh on April 29, 2010, 06:19:20 am
Marmite isn't even a close second to vegemite, which is really tasty
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Post by: babalu87 on April 29, 2010, 08:21:41 am
Marmite tastes nasty. Know that.

Never had it but I know yeast cakes taste like the bad side of horrible
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: dean on April 29, 2010, 08:25:59 am
Put too much yeast nutrient in your wort and your yeast will love it but the brew will taste brackish, while I've never had vegemite it sounds like the last couple of brews I made... salty/brackish flavor.  I had added it as a sudden decision, hastily and too much for the ten gallon batch I had boiled and forgot to write it in my notes.  For two plus months I had been racking my brain for the cause then just the other night we were watching Andrew Zimmerman on Bizarre Foods, he was in Australia and one of the food items was vegemite which the description of sounded very much like these brews (split batch using two different yeasts).  So.... now I've put another experience under my brewing belt.   ::)
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: beerrat on April 29, 2010, 08:52:26 am
Doesn't the yeast flatulate more than flocculate at that point?   ;)

One has to admire the consistency of this organism to produce gas where-ever it is!   ;D
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: denny on April 29, 2010, 09:43:09 am
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1267.0

Thanks for the thread link.. I enjoyed...    so the question is, has anyone been nutty enough to spread their yeast cake on a sandwich or toast?  I'd imagine that here my be an added hoppiness to this vs the commercial version.  When I brew next i'll have to be a guinea pig on this one.



There's a lot more to marmite than simply spent yeast.  Spreading a yeast cake on toast wouldn't be at all the same.
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: hankus on May 01, 2010, 05:55:51 am
Eating gator, crawdads,hogshead cheese  (and soon unrefined oil) down here in New Orleans is OK but yeast cake doesn't seem tasty and my one try of bread with it was NOT good
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: brewmasternpb on May 03, 2010, 10:13:09 pm
Isn't brewing yeast high in Uric acid?  I was reading an old Zymurgy that had an article that discussed that.  Uric acid is bad because it can lead to gout...apparently.  Maybe you have to consume an s-ton.
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: tubercle on May 04, 2010, 05:46:44 am
Eating gator, crawdads,hogshead cheese  (and soon unrefined oil) down here in New Orleans is OK but yeast cake doesn't seem tasty and my one try of bread with it was NOT good


I hate to see the mess and disaster that is about to happen in your area but on the upside think of all the money you will save on cooking oil ;D Everything will be pre-greased.

 Seriously though, I hope a big wind or current or something will keep this off the coast.
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: enso on May 06, 2010, 09:52:03 am
Marmite isn't even a close second to vegemite, which is really tasty

You're correct. 

Which means Marmite is really, really, really, really tasty!  Save the vegemite for your 6 foot tall muscle men in Brussels...

 ;D

If I understand correctly yeast extract which is what Marmite (the best) and Vegemite (the other one...) are, consist of brewers yeast that has been autolyzed.  That's right.  They purposely make the yeast cells rupture and die a violent death.  A result of which is HIGH percentage of naturally occuring MSG.  Which is why it is so salty and delicious!  Yes they claim no MSG, or rather, "no added MSG" don't let that fool yah.  Anytime you have autolyzed yeast extract in a product, you have mono sodium glutamate.  They don't have to tell you because it is "naturally occuring" rather than added.  They are also actually allowed to claim no MSG or no added MSG because they have not added it!   ::)


mmmm.  MSG...
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: tygo on May 06, 2010, 10:06:37 am
They purposely make the yeast cells rupture and die a violent death. 

Well, that's just barbaric...does PETA know about this?
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: Hokerer on May 06, 2010, 11:50:41 am
They purposely make the yeast cells rupture and die a violent death. 

Well, that's just barbaric...does PETA know about this?

Is there a People for the Ethical Treatment of Protists (PETP?) ?
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: enso on May 07, 2010, 09:14:57 am
They purposely make the yeast cells rupture and die a violent death. 

Well, that's just barbaric...does PETA know about this?

Is there a People for the Ethical Treatment of Protists (PETP?) ?

The funny thing is, many vegan diets and cookbooks that I have rely heavily on nutritional yeast for flavoring and the nutritional element ; loads of B vitamin complex, iron, protein.  Fungus is kind of a fuzzy area I guess between plant life and animal?  I guess it is only unethical if the life form has a certain number of cells?   ;)

Most all of those meat substitutes are loaded with autolyzed yeast extracts, as well as loads of other toxic cesspool ingredients and GMO ridden garbage.  Bleh.  That's why I make my own veggie sausages.   ;D

Do yeast cells have faces?
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: bluesman on May 07, 2010, 09:28:42 am
Never tried but I do try to keep an open mind to the like. I believe it may fall into the cetegory of an acquired taste. Looks good, smells good and probably tastes... well Okay. I do believe the jury is still out on this one.
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: 1vertical on May 13, 2010, 11:08:02 pm
Marmite tastes nasty. Know that.
yep
Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: uthristy on May 15, 2010, 04:59:37 am
You can eat all the yeast you want but none for me, thanks anyway :P

Lastnight I kicked a keg and got a glass with some yeast and decided to drink it.... well it had a Roto-Rooter effect this morning :o

Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: alikocho on May 15, 2010, 02:05:59 pm
I love Marmite (I'm British, so this may be why), but it's a very different thing from spent yeast. Something has to happen to it, and I believe that requires a process that is nigh on impossible to do at home.

Much of the Marmite in the UK is allegedly made with yeast that comes from Whitbread.

Title: Re: Should we be eating our yeast cake?
Post by: tom on May 16, 2010, 11:53:33 am
Most of the B Vitamin pills are made from brewer's yeast.

Shouldn't it be PETY (People for the Ethical Treatment of Yeast)?