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Title: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on January 13, 2015, 02:59:03 PM
Considering a new yeast choice-WLP023 Burton Ale or Wyeast 1275 Thames Valley. I have not used either yeast and looking for any thoughts about it in general and for a porter 1.65-70OG.
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on January 13, 2015, 03:09:50 PM
Man I used WY1275 once in a porter but it was quite a while ago. I remember getting a very mineral/chalky type flavor in the beer but at this point, I don't know if it was related to the yeast or something else like water...
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: reverseapachemaster on January 13, 2015, 04:59:53 PM
What kind of yeast flavors are you looking for and what kind of attenuation are you after? The English strains can vary in both of these categories and most people have polarizing opinions about each. If you are just looking for a lot of malt character but little to no esters then you may also want to look at one of the strains sold for Scottish ales or the European ale strains.
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: HoosierBrew on January 13, 2015, 05:10:12 PM
FWIW, my 2 favorite yeasts for porter are WY1028  (British) and WY1450 (American).  Used both many times in porter.  And I like 1728, too.
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on January 13, 2015, 06:23:35 PM
i have used london ale and irish ale. have not given denny's favorite a try as of yet.

nothing specific im chasing, just exploring different strains in my porter to see the difference-one reason i was looking at burton/thames strain also.
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: denny on January 13, 2015, 06:26:11 PM
i have used london ale and irish ale. have not given denny's favorite a try as of yet.

nothing specific im chasing, just exploring different strains in my porter to see the difference-one reason i was looking at burton/thames strain also.

I love 1450 in Am. style porter.  Since I don't brew British styles I can't say how it would work there.  Probably fine I'd guess.
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on January 13, 2015, 06:27:11 PM
i have used london ale and irish ale. have not given denny's favorite a try as of yet.

nothing specific im chasing, just exploring different strains in my porter to see the difference-one reason i was looking at burton/thames strain also.

I love 1450 in Am. style porter.  Since I don't brew British styles I can't say how it would work there.  Probably fine I'd guess.

is your 1450 less or none of the englsih ester as major diff?
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: denny on January 13, 2015, 06:28:08 PM
is your 1450 less or none of the englsih ester as major diff?

Yep.  Although if you ferment it in the upper 60s you'll probably get some of those esters.
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on January 13, 2015, 06:29:46 PM
is your 1450 less or none of the englsih ester as major diff?

Yep.  Although if you ferment it in the upper 60s you'll probably get some of those esters.

yeah im a pitch 60F and let it rise to 65F max on the porter
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: mihalybaci on January 13, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
I used Wyeast 1275 in a SMaSH English-style IPA last year, and I really liked the yeast. It had some nice esters that complimented the hop character. I was going to use it in the sweet stout I made recently, but my LHBS was out, so I used Wyeast 1099 Whitbred ale instead (tasting results pending). I think the 023/1275 is worth a try.
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: HoosierBrew on January 13, 2015, 10:30:25 PM
is your 1450 less or none of the englsih ester as major diff?

Yep.  Although if you ferment it in the upper 60s you'll probably get some of those esters.

yeah im a pitch 60F and let it rise to 65F max on the porter

1450 is a clean American-type strain that attenuates really well, but leaves a malty mouthfeel. I used it on the American Brown I made in the fall. It brought 1.068 down to 1.010 ( Chico-like), but the mouthfeel was more like 1.012-1.014 to me. But I pitched @ 62, fermented @ 64F, so I can't speak to the esters it might give off at warmer temps. Great yeast.
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on January 13, 2015, 10:51:13 PM
Brewing this weekend so pulled the trigger on London ale since it was in stock. Next round I will give 1450 a shot and see how i like it. Thanks for the feedback.


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Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: erockrph on January 13, 2015, 11:48:24 PM
WLP037 (Yorkshire Square) is out right now. While I haven't heard absolute confirmation that it's the Sam Smith's strain, it sure tastes like it to me. If you're shooting for something like Taddy Porter, that would obviously be an excellent choice.
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on January 14, 2015, 12:08:15 AM
Love Yorkshire in my oatmeal stout...just hard to get.


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Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: coolman26 on January 15, 2015, 04:18:26 AM
I too love 1450, one of my favorite all around yeasts. 
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: chumley on January 15, 2015, 04:23:42 PM
For British-style porter, I like Ringwood yeast. Something about the combination of fruity esters and roasted malt flavor. Mmmm, mmm.
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: erockrph on January 15, 2015, 04:36:12 PM
For British-style porter, I like Ringwood yeast. Something about the combination of fruity esters and roasted malt flavor. Mmmm, mmm.
Do you have any tricks to keep it from tasting like buttered coffee?
Title: Re: Porter style and yeast choice
Post by: denny on January 15, 2015, 05:21:32 PM
For British-style porter, I like Ringwood yeast. Something about the combination of fruity esters and roasted malt flavor. Mmmm, mmm.

And you accuse me of having burned out taste buds....;)