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Title: footwear
Post by: micsager on January 13, 2015, 04:14:17 PM
About a year ago there was a thread on good footwear for brewing.  I rather dismissed it at the time, but now realize how nice good footwear could be.  After 6-7 hours in the brewery and on the cement floor, by knees are killing me.  And the next morning is even worse.  I tried to find that thread, but came up empty.  I hate to start a new thread on this, but any help you veterans could give would be great. 
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: ranchovillabrew on January 13, 2015, 04:33:18 PM
X-tra tuff boots. I love them for fishing and brewing also. 
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: Stevie on January 13, 2015, 04:36:42 PM
Reef flip-flops. No joke, it's what I wear half the time. Or vans off the walls. If you are looking for boots, don't go cheap. Boots are in the "get what you pay" for category.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: morticaixavier on January 13, 2015, 04:39:47 PM
Those extrtuf boots look nice. They just went on my wish list.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: ranchovillabrew on January 13, 2015, 04:41:47 PM
Only boots I'll ever fish in.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: micsager on January 13, 2015, 04:48:15 PM
Do the x-tra tuff boots have good arch support?  They look nice, but I wonder about all day on a cement floor????
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: mbarnaby on January 13, 2015, 04:54:06 PM
The key to a good pair of xtra tufs is getting a good pair of insoles with them.  I have a pair of dr scholls work boot insole and it is like walking on air.  If you can find some old tufs made in the USA, that is best.  a few years back they moved the production over seas, and the quality has gone down.  on another note most xtratuf retailers will exchange them if they start to fall apart.  living in SE Alaska I wear mine year round no matter the task.
I also wear a good thick cushiony pair of flip flops (sanuks) for the days I don't feel like wearing socks
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: morticaixavier on January 13, 2015, 05:15:00 PM
The key to a good pair of xtra tufs is getting a good pair of insoles with them.  I have a pair of dr scholls work boot insole and it is like walking on air.  If you can find some old tufs made in the USA, that is best.  a few years back they moved the production over seas, and the quality has gone down.  on another note most xtratuf retailers will exchange them if they start to fall apart.  living in SE Alaska I wear mine year round no matter the task.
I also wear a good thick cushiony pair of flip flops (sanuks) for the days I don't feel like wearing socks

darn, at first glance they are still made in the USA but as I actually try to confirm that on the website it becomes apparent that they are not.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: ranchovillabrew on January 13, 2015, 05:24:37 PM
Do the x-tra tuff boots have good arch support?  They look nice, but I wonder about all day on a cement floor????
With a nice pair of insoles yes.

The non us ones are still good.  Just don't last as long.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: boulderbrewer on January 13, 2015, 06:47:27 PM
I just got a pair of Muck Boot Jobbers so time will tell. My wife swears by them on the farm. If you want a good made in the USA leather boot look at Thorogood, you have to check each boot style as some are not made in the states. If you ever get to Merrill, WI they have an outlet store where I picked up a $200 pair of boots for $60 because of a scuff on the heel.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: a10t2 on January 13, 2015, 07:14:32 PM
I just get cheap mid-calf steel toe boots, usually Servus, which do happen to be made in the US. Even with daily brewery use, they hold up for a couple years. The key is to get quality insoles that work for your feet, and replace them every few months.

Pants outside boots! There's no point in having a chemical barrier if you then funnel the chemicals inside it.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: morticaixavier on January 13, 2015, 07:48:35 PM
I just get cheap mid-calf steel toe boots, usually Servus, which do happen to be made in the US. Even with daily brewery use, they hold up for a couple years. The key is to get quality insoles that work for your feet, and replace them every few months.

Pants outside boots! There's no point in having a chemical barrier if you then funnel the chemicals inside it.

are they waterproof? or do you deal with wet feet?
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: a10t2 on January 13, 2015, 08:35:16 PM
are they waterproof? or do you deal with wet feet?

Waterproof. I think it's neoprene. http://www.gearcor.com/s75109/Servus-XTP-Steel-Toe-Hi-Boot.htm
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: jeffy on January 13, 2015, 08:43:34 PM
I remember reading a lengthy thread on the probrewer forum about boots once.  You should be able to view it here:
http://discussions.probrewer.com/showthread.php?14931-Brewers-boots
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: waltsmalt on January 14, 2015, 01:52:43 AM
I just got a pair of Muck Boot Jobbers so time will tell. My wife swears by them on the farm. If you want a good made in the USA leather boot look at Thorogood, you have to check each boot style as some are not made in the states. If you ever get to Merrill, WI they have an outlet store where I picked up a $200 pair of boots for $60 because of a scuff on the heel.

Just bought my second pair of muck boot shoes as I ended up wearing them more than just brewing.  I like them but might not be. The best if you suffer from knee pain.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: majorvices on January 14, 2015, 02:11:30 AM
I actually go to a store that sells work boots and ask them to suggest something. I tell them it needs to be water proof, slip proof, and comfortable to stand on concrete for 12+ hour shift. The last pair I got were Rocky's and they were great for almost 2 years. The heal broke off today and I'll be going back tomorrow to buy a new pair.

+1 to good insoles.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on January 14, 2015, 02:40:50 AM
Call me crazy but I wear tennis shoes in the brewery. If I get wet (rarely) I have a spare set of socks and shoes on hand.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: majorvices on January 14, 2015, 12:07:36 PM
Call me crazy but I wear tennis shoes in the brewery. If I get wet (rarely) I have a spare set of socks and shoes on hand.

I abhor wet feet. You are crazy. Also, tennis shoes are terrible for concrete. I also got a nasty burn when, even though the clamp was off, the 1/2 cup of boiling liquid in the line spat out through my tennis shoe.

As a rule, we don't allow tennis shoes in the wet area. Some of my guys will sqeegee the floor outside the wet area in sandals or flip flops and wash the dirty water over their feet. Gross, dudes.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: duboman on January 14, 2015, 04:18:46 PM
I'm a huge fan of the Georgia Boots, 6", steel toe and water proof. I'm a landscape contractor and these things go through hell and back in 14 hour days! One pair will easily last two years through mud, dirt, water, etc. Www.gemplers.com, they have a huge selection on any kind of footwear or workwear you can imagine!
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: coolman26 on January 15, 2015, 04:13:16 AM
Carolina Boot Co.  USA made, hands down the best boots I've ever owned.  I think model 308, water proof, have been awesome.  I get the boot and take out the insole, then buy the black insole made by SOLE.  If you've never tied them, I highly recommend them.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: Pinski on January 15, 2015, 05:31:50 AM
At home I usually wear my Georgia Boot Romeos, at the brewery I'll slide on a pair of cheap muck boots with insoles if I want to clean quickly with the hose.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: thirsty on January 15, 2015, 11:57:42 AM
This is a great thread. My waterproof boots just started to fall apart. Thanks all!
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: majorvices on January 15, 2015, 03:37:11 PM
Call me crazy but I wear tennis shoes in the brewery. If I get wet (rarely) I have a spare set of socks and shoes on hand.

Why you should wear boots. (Or if you have employees, why you should make them wear boots.)

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n137/majorvices/null_zpsc47f008b.jpg)

Title: Re: footwear
Post by: Slowbrew on January 15, 2015, 08:33:22 PM
Ouch!

Not the first time I've seen that picture on this forum.  Still makes me cringe when I see it.  I'm a firm believer in the right equipment for the job.

My "work" (more like play in my case) boots are starting to tear out.  Good ideas in this thread.

Thanks!

Paul
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on January 15, 2015, 10:59:00 PM
Wow.

Title: Re: footwear
Post by: majorvices on January 16, 2015, 12:43:02 PM
Ouch!

Not the first time I've seen that picture on this forum.  Still makes me cringe when I see it.  I'm a firm believer in the right equipment for the job.

My "work" (more like play in my case) boots are starting to tear out.  Good ideas in this thread.

Thanks!

Paul

Sorry, man. I know it is gruesome. It happened when someone (not me) didn't close a valve and took off a clamp. I had a similar burn (though not as big) on my foot when I closed a valve but the remainder of wort in the line spilled on my foot. That was the last time I wore tennis shoes on the brew floor. When it happened I an not proud to admit that I screamed like a 12 year old girl. In fact, that is giving me more credit than I deserve. I'm still embarrassed but thankful no one was around at the time. 
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: HoosierBrew on January 16, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
Yeah, I remember seeing that one.  Pretty nasty burn.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: jeffy on January 16, 2015, 01:20:32 PM
One of the homebrewers at our annual camp-out brew-a-thon got a burn just like that last month.  Boiling water does some serious damage.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: ajk on January 17, 2015, 12:29:05 PM
I will antivouch against a kind of shoe that may seem comfortable but is quite unsafe in the brewery: the Croc. Not only do many varieties of Croc have holes that allow hot water/wort ingress, they also magically lose all traction on wet concrete. I speak from experience.

I now wear an old pair of hiking shoes with a neoprene upper and a big rubber lug. 
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: majorvices on January 17, 2015, 02:27:09 PM
I will antivouch against a kind of shoe that may seem comfortable but is quite unsafe in the brewery: the Croc. Not only do many varieties of Croc have holes that allow hot water/wort ingress, they also magically lose all traction on wet concrete. I speak from experience.

I now wear an old pair of hiking shoes with a neoprene upper and a big rubber lug.

I have a great joke about dudes who wear crocs that is rally funny but not proper to share on the forum.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: Slowbrew on January 18, 2015, 01:08:41 PM
Ouch!

Not the first time I've seen that picture on this forum.  Still makes me cringe when I see it.  I'm a firm believer in the right equipment for the job.

My "work" (more like play in my case) boots are starting to tear out.  Good ideas in this thread.

Thanks!

Paul

Sorry, man. I know it is gruesome. It happened when someone (not me) didn't close a valve and took off a clamp. I had a similar burn (though not as big) on my foot when I closed a valve but the remainder of wort in the line spilled on my foot. That was the last time I wore tennis shoes on the brew floor. When it happened I an not proud to admit that I screamed like a 12 year old girl. In fact, that is giving me more credit than I deserve. I'm still embarrassed but thankful no one was around at the time.

No worries.  I've seen and in some cases, done, worse to myself.  It really is a good reminder or kind of a "scared straight" picture.  Some times we can forget how dangerous the things we do can be.  A shot like that is a powerful reminder of the power of hot water.  The fact I cringe a bit is a good thing since it makes me remember how much something like that hurts.

And there is no shame in screaming like a 12 year old boy when skin is pealing off your foot.   ;)  Burns hurt like nothing else does.

Paul
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: speed on January 27, 2015, 11:39:26 PM
We bought BOGS and really like them.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: majorvices on January 28, 2015, 11:34:15 AM
I just bought a pair of Keen Steel Toe work boots. I had some reservations about the steel toes because if something really heavy crushes your steel toe is can be even worse when they try to extract your feet from the clamped steel. But I also dropped a keg on my toe recently and that hurt!

They are really comfortable. So much so that when I got home I walked the dogs in them. Great support for standing on concrete all day. The water proofing on them are excellent and the non skid is pretty good, though seems that this could be the area of improvement. Regardless, for sheer comfort highly recommended.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: majorvices on February 02, 2015, 12:14:00 PM
I just bought a pair of Keen Steel Toe work boots. I had some reservations about the steel toes because if something really heavy crushes your steel toe is can be even worse when they try to extract your feet from the clamped steel. But I also dropped a keg on my toe recently and that hurt!

They are really comfortable. So much so that when I got home I walked the dogs in them. Great support for standing on concrete all day. The water proofing on them are excellent and the non skid is pretty good, though seems that this could be the area of improvement. Regardless, for sheer comfort highly recommended.

If anyone is in the market for a great pair of all around work boots I can't recommend these boots highly enough. They are called the Keen Detroit Mid and they are fantastic. All day comfort, no need to replace the inserts, water proof and did I mention comfortable? I'm considering getting a second pair without the steel toe for hiking. Cost is reasonable too - $124.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on February 07, 2015, 09:31:11 PM
My issue is that my feet sweat in the boots. I understand the importance of good shoes.

More then often I burn my hands thou.
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Post by: anthony on February 09, 2015, 05:02:25 AM
My issue is that my feet sweat in the boots. I understand the importance of good shoes.

More then often I burn my hands thou.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C9P8BW8/ref=pe_385040_30332190_TE_M3T1_ST1_dp_1

Surprisingly durable... I think I am on my second pair, we bought them in October 2013. Some of my assistant brewers are on their third+ pair though. Thick enough that they shield heat, thin enough that you can still move your fingers, grip things, etc.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: boulderbrewer on February 09, 2015, 05:59:26 PM
I use a heavy pair of open cuff leather gloves they protect from the heat and easy to remove if I get them wet with hot liquid.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on February 09, 2015, 08:26:20 PM
I use the Blickman gloves. They work fine but they are quite thick. I will get me those from Amazon AnyhonyB.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: majorvices on August 21, 2015, 10:29:02 AM
I just bought a pair of Keen Steel Toe work boots. I had some reservations about the steel toes because if something really heavy crushes your steel toe is can be even worse when they try to extract your feet from the clamped steel. But I also dropped a keg on my toe recently and that hurt!

They are really comfortable. So much so that when I got home I walked the dogs in them. Great support for standing on concrete all day. The water proofing on them are excellent and the non skid is pretty good, though seems that this could be the area of improvement. Regardless, for sheer comfort highly recommended.

If anyone is in the market for a great pair of all around work boots I can't recommend these boots highly enough. They are called the Keen Detroit Mid and they are fantastic. All day comfort, no need to replace the inserts, water proof and did I mention comfortable? I'm considering getting a second pair without the steel toe for hiking. Cost is reasonable too - $124.

Take it back, they fell apart. damn!
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 21, 2015, 12:46:14 PM
I just bought a pair of Keen Steel Toe work boots. I had some reservations about the steel toes because if something really heavy crushes your steel toe is can be even worse when they try to extract your feet from the clamped steel. But I also dropped a keg on my toe recently and that hurt!

They are really comfortable. So much so that when I got home I walked the dogs in them. Great support for standing on concrete all day. The water proofing on them are excellent and the non skid is pretty good, though seems that this could be the area of improvement. Regardless, for sheer comfort highly recommended.

If anyone is in the market for a great pair of all around work boots I can't recommend these boots highly enough. They are called the Keen Detroit Mid and they are fantastic. All day comfort, no need to replace the inserts, water proof and did I mention comfortable? I'm considering getting a second pair without the steel toe for hiking. Cost is reasonable too - $124.

Take it back, they fell apart. damn!

Wow, I have Keen sandals, shoes. The sandals are many years old and still in good shape. What was the failure mode? Do you think chimicals in the brewhouse were responsible?
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: curtism1234 on August 21, 2015, 01:52:00 PM
If you just want something that's comfortable, MOZO makes the clogs chefs and nurses wear. They are like $100 but my wife swears by them as they are the industry standard.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: majorvices on August 21, 2015, 02:08:10 PM
I just bought a pair of Keen Steel Toe work boots. I had some reservations about the steel toes because if something really heavy crushes your steel toe is can be even worse when they try to extract your feet from the clamped steel. But I also dropped a keg on my toe recently and that hurt!

They are really comfortable. So much so that when I got home I walked the dogs in them. Great support for standing on concrete all day. The water proofing on them are excellent and the non skid is pretty good, though seems that this could be the area of improvement. Regardless, for sheer comfort highly recommended.

If anyone is in the market for a great pair of all around work boots I can't recommend these boots highly enough. They are called the Keen Detroit Mid and they are fantastic. All day comfort, no need to replace the inserts, water proof and did I mention comfortable? I'm considering getting a second pair without the steel toe for hiking. Cost is reasonable too - $124.

Take it back, they fell apart. damn!

Wow, I have Keen sandals, shoes. The sandals are many years old and still in good shape. What was the failure mode? Do you think chimicals in the brewhouse were responsible?

I wear Keans hiking and back packing too. Side split seam near tread. Still comfy as hell till your foot gets wet. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the caustic but I try to to step in it much. I'm going to go back to store I bought them and see what they can do.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: curtism1234 on August 21, 2015, 02:40:13 PM
While we're on the burn topic, never wear jeans if you have burn concerns.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: 69franx on August 21, 2015, 02:48:09 PM
Keith it looks like you got 7 months of wear and tear on them. With my bad feet, my doctor and podiatrist have told me to get new shoes for every 6 months of wear. If you wore these daily and worked in them 6-7 days a week (brewer's hours, right) I don't think you can expect more out of a pair of boots. When I worked on my feet 60-70 hours a week in restaurant kitchens, I bought new red wing boots at least every 6-8 months. Just my .02, it's never fun to have soakers though.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: majorvices on August 21, 2015, 02:50:35 PM
Keith it looks like you got 7 months of wear and tear on them. With my bad feet, my doctor and podiatrist have told me to get new shoes for every 6 months of wear. If you wore these daily and worked in them 6-7 days a week (brewer's hours, right) I don't think you can expect more out of a pair of boots. When I worked on my feet 60-70 hours a week in restaurant kitchens, I bought new red wing boots at least every 6-8 months. Just my .02, it's never fun to have soakers though.

Hey, thanks for that feed back. I never really thought about it that way. You are probably right!
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: 69franx on August 21, 2015, 02:57:56 PM
You're welcome
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: 69franx on August 21, 2015, 02:59:27 PM
Dr's basically said that when your shoes start to get nice and comfy, it's probably because they are wearing out, time for new ones
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: Stevie on August 21, 2015, 03:08:49 PM

Dr's basically said that when your shoes start to get nice and comfy, it's probably because they are wearing out, time for new ones
Sounds like your doctors are sadists.
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: Slowbrew on August 21, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
Keith it looks like you got 7 months of wear and tear on them. With my bad feet, my doctor and podiatrist have told me to get new shoes for every 6 months of wear. If you wore these daily and worked in them 6-7 days a week (brewer's hours, right) I don't think you can expect more out of a pair of boots. When I worked on my feet 60-70 hours a week in restaurant kitchens, I bought new red wing boots at least every 6-8 months. Just my .02, it's never fun to have soakers though.

That was my first thought too.  In my past lives I've never gotten 7 months out a pair boots I wore 5 or 6 days a week.  People typically wear a pair of shoes way longer than they should.

Paul
Title: Re: footwear
Post by: 69franx on August 21, 2015, 03:32:26 PM

Dr's basically said that when your shoes start to get nice and comfy, it's probably because they are wearing out, time for new ones
Sounds like your doctors are sadists.
They're in cahoots with the shoe companies I guess
Title: footwear
Post by: hophead636 on July 18, 2016, 10:36:47 PM
Anyone looking for some good rubber steel toe boots for brewing check out shoes for crews guardian IV, changed glycol lines today from an old set up to a trunk set up and the boots didn't slide at all very comfortable only thing that time will tell is how long they hold up,   But solid boot for the dollar price

https://www.shoesforcrews.com/sfc3/index.cfm?changeWebsite=US_en&route=c_store.viewDetailsOfProduct&partnumber=2063