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Title: 2015 Hop season
Post by: goobersan on February 03, 2015, 11:01:26 PM
Less than 80 days till the little monsters show themselves  ;D
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: metron-brewer on February 04, 2015, 01:54:31 AM
We need a Groundhog day for hops.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: cascadesrunner on February 04, 2015, 02:50:06 AM
The only gardening I do. 
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: GolfBum on February 04, 2015, 03:16:22 AM
It's been so warm here that I am worried they are going to sprout up too soon. It's cold for a day or two then warm for 4 or 5. Last year was the first year I planted hops and they grew nice but no hops. Hoping for some this year. I just think it would be cool to see hops come in.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: 69franx on February 04, 2015, 03:43:39 AM
I purchased some rhizomes this year for the first time, cant wait to get started
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: reverseapachemaster on February 04, 2015, 03:57:12 PM
We've had an extremely warm winter here and I'm also fearful shoots will start to appear in the next few weeks only to get killed off by a late couple of cold days at the end of the month. I replanted my crowns over the winter and had to hack off the bottom of the taproots so the shoots may be a little late to rise.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: denny on February 04, 2015, 04:46:10 PM
Less than 80 days till the little monsters show themselves  ;D

I'm pulling mine out this year.  Too much hassle.  Anybody want a giant 12 year old Cascade rhizome?  Pickup only!
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: goobersan on February 05, 2015, 12:25:48 AM
Denny, how about you raffle off the crown for new book funds ?


Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: pinnah on February 06, 2015, 03:12:12 PM
Denny, how about you raffle off the crown for new book funds ?

Excellent idea!!  Denny, remember a few years back when Dave@Freshops raffled off some historical Cascade crowns on ebay? ;D  Big money!!

I doubt you could get enough to buy the Bus,
but maybe some gas money?


Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: S. cerevisiae on February 07, 2015, 02:32:04 AM
I'm pulling mine out this year.  Too much hassle.  Anybody want a giant 12 year old Cascade rhizome?  Pickup only!

You are going to need a backhoe to dig that crown out!
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: S. cerevisiae on February 07, 2015, 02:37:14 AM
I dug out a few crowns last fall in order to plant more latitude 39-friendly cultivars.  I kept the hop with no name, Cascade, and Spalt Select (which performed surprisingly well).  I added Early Cluster (Cluster is an awesome, but overlooked hop), another Challenger selection, Southern Brewer, Southern Cross, and Yeoman.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: kmccaf on February 07, 2015, 02:52:32 AM
I dug out a few crowns last fall in order to plant more latitude 39-friendly cultivars.  I kept the hop with no name, Cascade, and Spalt Select (which performed surprisingly well).  I added Early Cluster (Cluster is an awesome, but overlooked hop), another Challenger selection, Southern Brewer, Southern Cross, and Yeoman.

I am very interested in Early Cluster. Was looking at Late Cluster myself. Super Alpha would be a good one for your latitude. Beautiful foliage as well. I will continue growing it as an ornamental if I don like the flavors.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: reverseapachemaster on February 07, 2015, 02:26:19 PM
I checked on the plants yesterday and two of four crowns have already broken through. Weather predictions say we're done with cold weather for the year but I don't put too much faith in that.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: fmader on February 07, 2015, 03:12:47 PM
I wouldn't sweat any early shooters a whole lot. Even if it frosts, they'll die and be replaced by others.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: S. cerevisiae on February 08, 2015, 12:43:51 AM
I am very interested in Early Cluster. Was looking at Late Cluster myself. Super Alpha would be a good one for your latitude. Beautiful foliage as well. I will continue growing it as an ornamental if I don like the flavors.

I looked at that New Zealand culivar, but decided against it because I already have a "super alpha" cultivar that grows like a weed at lattitude 39.  Sadly, this hop has no name because it was mispropagated at some point.   There is no exact match from an alpha/beta and oil point of view either.

Here are the reports that I received from Alpha Analytics (Hop Union's lab) for the hop with no name:

(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv356/tonestack/Brewing/HopAnalysisSummary_zpsdae25f44.jpg)

(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv356/tonestack/Brewing/NotWC2_zpsbb03687a.jpg)

 
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: b-hoppy on February 08, 2015, 04:33:59 PM
Just curious as to what they charged you for the oil analysis as I've got some seedlings that have made it through the first couple years of hurdles and am thinking that they're worth spending a few bucks to see what's actually inside now?   
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: S. cerevisiae on February 09, 2015, 05:24:51 PM
It wasn't cheap. If I recall correctly, I think that I paid $85.00 for the "Hop Profile Package."  However, that was an AHA member special offer.   The "Volatile Oil Profile" test by itself is $80.00.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: b-hoppy on February 10, 2015, 04:37:26 AM
That sounds about right, thanks!
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: goobersan on February 14, 2015, 03:02:32 PM
70 days...... but who's really counting when it's -4 outside
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: thirsty on February 15, 2015, 02:56:16 PM
If the past in any guide I'll see mine in 63 days, right around April 12.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: goobersan on February 15, 2015, 07:58:33 PM
2 years running has been April 26 for me. Earlier would be even better
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: hophead636 on February 15, 2015, 10:39:55 PM
Guess we will see im excited this will be my 2nd year of growing
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: micsager on February 23, 2015, 04:27:33 PM
I plant my hops in half wine barrels and have coir yarn stretching to the top eves of our brewery/man cave.  The little purple sprouts have already started.  But yesterday, the wife and dumped them all out, trimmed the crowns, put them back in some good new (conditioned) soil. 

If anyone is in the Port Angeles Wa area, I've got Cascade, Centennial, Chinook and Fuggle rhizomes free for the taking.....
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: goobersan on February 24, 2015, 11:09:51 PM
would you be interested in shipping 2-4 Fuggles to Wisconsin? I'll pick up shipping of course
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: micsager on February 24, 2015, 11:18:56 PM
You bet, just PM me.  But please give me instruction on how to pack.  I figure some wet newspaper, and an unsealed gallon ziplock. 

And of course I make no warranty as to viability. 
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: goobersan on February 27, 2015, 01:20:55 AM
PM sent
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: goobersan on March 08, 2015, 09:20:41 PM
Neighbors probably think I'm insane  ::)  Just finished snowblowing around my hop trellis. I don't want them sprouting too early.
 About 7 weeks left to go...............
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: reverseapachemaster on March 09, 2015, 01:47:54 PM
Our very unusual late winter snow knocked out a few shoots on some of my plants but half are already growing voraciously with several shoots inches out of the ground.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: goobersan on March 09, 2015, 10:39:39 PM
 8)
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: bassetman on March 10, 2015, 01:26:42 PM
Waiting on my starts as spring erupts around me......patience is not my best suit. ;)
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: hophead636 on March 13, 2015, 10:09:14 PM
Looks like the thaw has mine starting to come alive I buried them with alittle more of a layer to protect them from the cold night but all look healthy have a feeling my cent is going to go ape crazy this year
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: goobersan on March 16, 2015, 01:09:03 AM
well so much for the snow covered idea........ gone in 2 days. Just might be early this season
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: corkybstewart on March 25, 2015, 03:28:46 AM
I've got some Cascades that are about a foot tall, some just coming out, some still dormant, and both Centennials poked their little sprouts out since the weekend.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: nuhvadah on March 25, 2015, 04:20:14 AM
My California Cluster hit the ground running in February. They're now 4 feet and growing about 6"/day.


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Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: klickitat jim on March 25, 2015, 12:45:21 PM
Cascade about two foot, Willamette and Centennial are about a foot. Giving them a few more days then hacking them down. I don't trust that spring is here just yet.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: reverseapachemaster on March 25, 2015, 02:16:57 PM
Cascade and Mt. Hood are 1-3 feet tall already while the Nugget and Sterling are just inches out of the ground.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: hophead636 on March 26, 2015, 01:31:52 AM
I unburied a monster of roots on my centennial plant only one tht is tht big I have a feeling that one is going to be a handful this year and I can't wait
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: Phil_M on March 26, 2015, 11:48:47 AM
3 of my 4 potted rhizomes have sprouted. The one that hasn't sprouted did really poorly last year, wouldn't be surprised if the tough winter killed it off.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: micsager on March 26, 2015, 02:42:19 PM
Cascade about two foot, Willamette and Centennial are about a foot. Giving them a few more days then hacking them down. I don't trust that spring is here just yet.

Well, over here on the wet (I mean west) side of the cascades, mine have been sprouted, but only a few now have leaves.  But let me ask, I've always cut the first growth much smaller than 2 feet.  Why wait so long?  I've read somewhere, that once they have two set of leaves, it's time.  But you're much closer to Yakima, than I. 
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: reverseapachemaster on March 27, 2015, 02:13:48 PM
3 of my 4 potted rhizomes have sprouted. The one that hasn't sprouted did really poorly last year, wouldn't be surprised if the tough winter killed it off.

Don't give up hope. Just because it didn't grow much above ground doesn't mean it wasn't growing underground last year.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: Phil_M on March 27, 2015, 02:30:53 PM
That particular plant only grew a few feet last year, and ended up pretty brown towards the end of the summer.

If it doesn't spout I have a couple rhizomes inbound as replacements, just in case.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: corkybstewart on March 28, 2015, 06:03:46 PM
Today I did a little root pruning and got 8 new Cascade rhizomes transplanted.

I'm going to start a whole new hop yard in May.  We inherited my inlaws' farmhouse in France.  In May we'll go over there for a month to start cleaning it up and remodeling.  It's been unoccupied for 3 years so the yard is badly overgrown.  Once we clear out some of that vegetation I'm gonna plant 2 cascade, 2 centennial, and a couple of other varieties.  It's roughly the same latitude as Munich so hopefully hops will do well.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: hophead636 on April 03, 2015, 09:09:01 PM
All showing life centennials, chinook, and Columbus are my beast so far

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/03/bacbab9f88b67c619aba6b575c4e6b2b.jpg)
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/03/b93653a7b5cd3c6990ce512eef19dee2.jpg)
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/03/3853610d46bce8aa218e0444899869c5.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: hophead636 on April 15, 2015, 02:10:21 AM
Update

Columbus
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/14/3b3a9ef080e710da9d5d48565383030c.jpg)

Cent
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/14/19a4baa0ac5c9af0702516edb0ca4283.jpg)

Chinook
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/14/6d4ed373e36f1d88c6e519603e5454ca.jpg)

Willamette
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/14/ddcb0d89fd029711aefcf908c86ee0eb.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: 69franx on April 15, 2015, 04:11:29 AM
So jealous. In theory, I should receive my rhizomes tomorrow from AIH pre-order. First attempt at growing hops, hope I can make room, bought 6 different varieties
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: S. cerevisiae on April 15, 2015, 09:25:28 PM
Frank, if the rhizomes do not work out as well as you had planned, you will do better by ordering whole crowns or field-grade plants from Great Lakes Hops for a fall planting than waiting until next spring to plant rootstock.  I never experienced an appreciable first-year yield until I planted crowns and field-grade plants in the fall.  I was skeptical at first because my current hop yard was not my first rodeo, but I can confirm that the photographic results on Lynn Kemme's website are real. 

Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: kmccaf on April 15, 2015, 11:28:58 PM
Frank, if the rhizomes do not work out as well as you had planned, you will do better by ordering whole crowns or field-grade plants from Great Lakes Hops for a fall planting than waiting until next spring to plant rootstock.  I never experienced an appreciable first-year yield until I planted crowns and field-grade plants in the fall.  I was skeptical at first because my current hop yard was not my first rodeo, but I can confirm that the photographic results on Lynn Kemme's website are real.

+1 I am happy to pay the premium for such quality from Great Lakes Hops.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: goobersan on April 19, 2015, 02:29:55 AM
FINALLY have some sprouts. 4-12-15   8)   pics to follow
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: 69franx on April 19, 2015, 04:36:02 AM
Thanks Mark, we shall see what the rhizomes do. I know to not expect much yield first year. I just hope they survive our weather and grow, even if they don't produce right away
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: hophead636 on July 02, 2015, 04:08:00 PM
Here are my 2nd year chinook Columbus centennial and willamette going up to the deck
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/56d5366c97eb846b9e23ea6e4ee3d584.jpg)

1st year comet going up to the roof
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/693cf95d77aeec17d09bb515a93e49f7.jpg)

Some shot of my beast cent
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/3be13c01ee6389a97151432981e83324.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/02/d5dc5c474286768a7f25f84218a360f9.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: corkybstewart on July 06, 2015, 06:36:06 PM
My Cascades are only about 8' tall, but I've been picking cones since mid May.  I've got a couple of ounces so far.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: hophead636 on July 22, 2015, 12:18:53 AM
Update the back yard
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/21/d665f4be3d173dbd17b83109bc02f1d5.jpg)

First year comet from plant
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/21/8fd82203a3b95701e4667892663553fa.jpg)
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/21/f0eafb3a0f68b534a3c7d773de869ce3.jpg)

Chinook
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/21/77c5147842b0bf12a19d44a55e73e0a3.jpg)

Columbus revived from the japs
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/21/15f1566664b0f0ce89b13aeb6685b692.jpg)

Bad pic cause of light of cent
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/21/f82ac346f98a1d93f41719db05d79173.jpg)

Willamette
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/21/57e06eabdab7b09cda94c971db52f122.jpg)
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: pinnah on August 31, 2015, 08:10:33 PM
Harvest weekend here. Pulled a few pounds off some of the ladies - Cents, Zeus and Columbus, Cascade and the Mt Hood.

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/478_zpsrkgbk1gh.jpg)

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/733_zpsyjw2kr44.jpg)

Man it takes a lot of time to pick, but will be nice this winter to reach into the freezer.
Good year overall; I underestimated the weight of a fully laden plant. The Wind took the Mt Hood's half inch steel rod support and bent it right over. This Zeus only bent a little. 

The "oast" smells pretty good and my fingers are still sticky.
Cheers to the homegrown harvest. 8)
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: hopfenundmalz on August 31, 2015, 09:29:19 PM
Chinook was decent others were poor to a loss. Too wet, downy mildew was a problem.
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: 1vertical on October 25, 2015, 08:48:55 PM
Hops Direct said No amarillo this season  ......grrrr.  Bought a lb. from amazon hop union
and suspect that they are 2014 crop (only 8 left) ...oh well least I will have some .....
Title: Re: 2015 Hop season
Post by: S. cerevisiae on October 26, 2015, 02:16:01 AM
Chinook was decent others were poor to a loss. Too wet, downy mildew was a problem.

Japanese Beetles did so much damage to my hills this year that I did even bother to harvest the cones that were produced.  I reduced my hop yard to 6 hills two weeks ago.  Twelve hills was more than I could use and more than I wanted to pick.  I was 100% positive that the hop with no name was Columbus. I hate Columbus, so those hills fell this year along with Spalt Select (a waste of time to grow in my climate) and Southern Cross.  Southern Cross grew well for a first year hills, but Japanese beetles love it.   I am not down to Cascade, Early Cluster, and Wye Yoeman.  Wye Yeoman also grew well for first-year hills, which was surprising because British cultivars are not fond of my soil and climate. 

Japanese Beetle Damage to Spalt Select (they were nice enough to leave me with a skeletonized large leaf in the lower right-hand side of the bine)
 
(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv356/tonestack/Brewing/DSCN0587_zpslwzoatwy.jpg) (http://s699.photobucket.com/user/tonestack/media/Brewing/DSCN0587_zpslwzoatwy.jpg.html)