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Title: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: calpyro on March 08, 2015, 03:22:33 PM
Looking at Yelp and Trip Advisor, the Town an Country Resort looks like a dive. The place consistently has very poor reviews. Dirty, bugs and poor service. Is it this bad?
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: denny on March 08, 2015, 04:24:30 PM
When we were there before it seemed like a pretty nice place.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: santoch on March 08, 2015, 05:34:34 PM
I agree with Denny.  It showed some evidence of age, but it was far from terrible.  That was in 2011.
That said, a hotel is only as good as its management and staff makes it.

Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 08, 2015, 05:34:57 PM
We had an e-mail from them before the conference was announced to be in SD, where they were offering introductory rates to the refurbished hotel. Before it looked to be a little long in the tooth, but was not a dump. I have stayed in some real dumps in my day.

Will find out when we get there  if it has been spiffed up or not.

Edit - that may have just been one of the towers that got the refurb.

Edit2 - it may not be refurbished by the time we are there. It was announced but no timeline in this article.
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jun/03/town-country-mission-valley-hotel-expansion-redo/2/?#article-copy
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: calpyro on March 08, 2015, 10:55:39 PM
I guess it really doesn't matter. Good or bad, we are going to the Town and Country. My wife is just a little freaked out by the bed bug photos...... I'll keep her glass full.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: S. cerevisiae on March 10, 2015, 01:15:32 AM
Bed bugs? I am not risking bringing those nasty critters back home.  Is there another, better managed hotel close by?
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: Stevie on March 10, 2015, 01:37:05 AM
Bed bugs can happen at any hotel. I've known people that got them from a top hotel in Vegas.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: Jimmy K on March 10, 2015, 01:46:46 AM
The one time I've gotten bed bug bites was at a Hilton. :/
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: S. cerevisiae on March 10, 2015, 02:39:36 AM
Bed bugs are one of the reasons why I have avoided traveling during the last decade.  Cockroaches are the only type of bug that I loath more than bed bugs.   What's crazy about beg bugs is that they were pretty much eradicated in the Western world, thanks in large part to DDT and other planet destroying pesticides.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: udubdawg on March 10, 2015, 03:23:03 AM
The one time I've gotten bed bug bites was at a Hilton. :/

Umm...Can we get this guy his own personal chair for the seminars?  ;)

side note:  bed bugs have been reported at some point in the 2013, 2012, 2011 host hotels.  Didn't find any results on my searches prior to staying at the Holiday Inn and Amway in Grand Rapids last year, but it happens all over the place.  I do my research and thus far I've not been scared away from any host hotels.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: troybinso on March 10, 2015, 04:21:19 AM
San Diego has a "hotel loop" off the highway with a whole bunch of different hotels really close to each other, and the Town and Country is in this loop.

The Town and Country is a really weird hotel. There are some new and modern rooms in a tower and then there are the rooms on the grounds of the garden area. The old rooms are not nice at all, except for the fact that you can walk out of your room and you are in tropical-ly gardens, and you are close to the swimming pool. I have stayed in my fair share of grungy hotel rooms throughout Latin America, and I would rate the one that I stayed at in the Town and Country (in the old garden area) as about average for a grungy Latin American hotel room. No bugs or rodents, but everything was just kind of dirty.

In other words - fine for crashing in bed after a long day of drinking at the NHC.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: Jimmy K on March 10, 2015, 12:50:13 PM
The one time I've gotten bed bug bites was at a Hilton. :/
Umm...Can we get this guy his own personal chair for the seminars?  ;)
(http://www.sondrakistan.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/python-i-got-better.jpg)
 
But seriously - Yelp's score is low with ~400 reviews but every other review site gives the place about 3.75/5 including TripAdvisor with 2500 reviews. A quick scan through theirs and everybody complains about the outdated rooms, but nobody mentioned bed bugs. Not even the 1 star reviews.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: Jimmy K on March 10, 2015, 01:37:11 PM
I don't know why, but I feel like NHC should be here.
 
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60491-d101228-Reviews-The_Wort_Hotel-Jackson_Jackson_Hole_Wyoming.html (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60491-d101228-Reviews-The_Wort_Hotel-Jackson_Jackson_Hole_Wyoming.html)
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: Gary Glass on March 11, 2015, 09:19:46 PM
I personally have stayed at the Town and Country at least six times, probably more and always have had a great experience.  While in past stays some of the rooms were a bit dated, I never experienced any issues with dirty rooms or pests.  All of the rooms in the two hotel towers (representing the vast majority of rooms) were renovated two years ago, so should be in good condition.

In addition to holding the AHA Conference at the Town and Country previously, the Brewers Association has hosted the Craft Brewers Conference there three times--I'm sure the CBC would return if it could still fit there.  We've had great service from the staff at the Town and Country for our events, and they love our attendees.

As has been mentioned in this thread, the Town and Country is in San Diego's Hotel Circle.  Once the Town and Country fills up (and it will), we will be releasing overflow hotel info with group rates for the AHA Conference at surrounding hotels.  We'll also have shuttles running from overflow hotels to the Town and Country.

I am quite certain everyone attending this years conference will have a great experience.  I know I can't wait to be back in San Diego.

See you there! 

Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 11, 2015, 11:25:11 PM
Thanks for the input Gary.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 11, 2015, 11:26:12 PM
Thanks for the input Gary.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: rjharper on March 12, 2015, 02:47:03 AM
I'm a hilton frequent 'flyer' so we're staying at the Doubletree and bussing it probably.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: S. cerevisiae on March 12, 2015, 02:38:02 PM
I guess that I can leave the DDT home.  ;D
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: Dave King on March 16, 2015, 08:44:13 PM
I attended the 2011 NHC, and my room was, as Gary says, "Dated," but it was clean, and I expect the towers to be better.  I'm confident we'll be OK.

Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: Jimmy K on March 17, 2015, 06:23:26 PM
I guess that I can leave the DDT home.  ;D
No, by all means. Check onto your plane with DDT in your carry-on. Really ... go ahead.  ::)
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: wyobrew on March 20, 2015, 01:59:09 AM
Any idea when the other contract hotels with shuttles will be announced. May want to opt for one of those if the price is the same.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: guido on March 20, 2015, 09:22:30 AM
Maybe one of the conference folks can chime in on this one, but it looks like there's a shuttle service from the airport to the Town and Country for only $11--a much better deal than the $40 cab ride in Grand Rapids.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: Gary Glass on March 20, 2015, 10:06:13 PM
Any idea when the other contract hotels with shuttles will be announced. May want to opt for one of those if the price is the same.
Overflow hotel information will be posted once the conference block at the Town & Country is filled.  It is definitely filling up though.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: toby on March 21, 2015, 12:45:00 AM
Maybe one of the conference folks can chime in on this one, but it looks like there's a shuttle service from the airport to the Town and Country for only $11--a much better deal than the $40 cab ride in Grand Rapids.
That sounds believable.  I cab shared in Grand Rapids since I was staying at the Amway.  The two guys right next to me in line were also.  We split the cab three ways, so it was about $14-15 each with tip.

That being said, San Diego is very Uber saturated so that's a great option.  The Beer Bloggers Conference was there last year, and we used the heck out of Uber.  If you're interested and don't have an account, send me a message and I'll send you a sign up link which will give us both a $20 credit towards your first ride.  We had several of us in San Diego and wound up only coming out of pocket on a few rides since only a couple of us had existing accounts.
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 21, 2015, 12:47:25 AM
Maybe one of the conference folks can chime in on this one, but it looks like there's a shuttle service from the airport to the Town and Country for only $11--a much better deal than the $40 cab ride in Grand Rapids.
Public transportation in Michigan is a foreign concept. Had to say it. 8)
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: S. cerevisiae on March 21, 2015, 12:55:46 AM
Maybe one of the conference folks can chime in on this one, but it looks like there's a shuttle service from the airport to the Town and Country for only $11--a much better deal than the $40 cab ride in Grand Rapids.

The only thing that I seriously did not like about Grand Rapids was the lack of affordable transportation to and from the airport.  I really liked the old hotel.  It had an "Al Capone spent time here" vibe to it. 
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: S. cerevisiae on March 21, 2015, 01:03:18 AM
Public transportation in Michigan is a foreign concept. Had to say it. 8)

It's not a foreign concept in Maryland or Washington, DC.   The light rail in Maryland runs between the BWI Airport and downtown Baltimore. Washington, DC has an excellent public transportation system.   
Title: Re: How is the hotel for NHC San Diego?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 21, 2015, 01:33:45 AM
Public transportation in Michigan is a foreign concept. Had to say it. 8)

It's not a foreign concept in Maryland or Washington, DC.   The light rail in Maryland runs between the BWI Airport and downtown Baltimore. Washington, DC has an excellent public transportation system.   

As someone who has traveled around the US, and has used the transit systems in SF, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Philly, NYC, and DC, I was comparing the almost complete lack of transportation options other than a car in Metro Detroit to those areas. The mind set in Michigan is that transportation is a car and highways.

I have also used public transportation in Toronto, London, Paris, Brussels, Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Berlin, Munich, Prague, and Rome, but all those are foreign!