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General Category => Kegging and Bottling => Topic started by: flbrewer on April 25, 2015, 01:59:52 AM

Title: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: flbrewer on April 25, 2015, 01:59:52 AM
OK, got a keg and CO2 tank coming shortly. I need some guidance on the preferred type of regulator, dual or single gauge? Secondly, for now, I plan on just using a picnic faucet assembly. Is there anything else I'll need at this point?

I am going to be using my existing chest freezer as a dual use chamber at this point. When the fermentation is over, I'll be throwing the keg in there.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 25, 2015, 02:40:32 AM
OK, got a keg and CO2 tank coming shortly. I need some guidance on the preferred type of regulator, dual or single gauge? Secondly, for now, I plan on just using a picnic faucet assembly. Is there anything else I'll need at this point?

I am going to be using my existing chest freezer as a dual use chamber at this point. When the fermentation is over, I'll be throwing the keg in there.

prefer the dual because you see whats in the tank and line pressure, but again just go with what you want at this point. other than that, you are good to go and ready to enter the kegging arena.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 25, 2015, 02:54:01 AM
OK, got a keg and CO2 tank coming shortly. I need some guidance on the preferred type of regulator, dual or single gauge? Secondly, for now, I plan on just using a picnic faucet assembly. Is there anything else I'll need at this point?

I am going to be using my existing chest freezer as a dual use chamber at this point. When the fermentation is over, I'll be throwing the keg in there.

prefer the dual because you see whats in the tank and line pressure, but again just go with what you want at this point. other than that, you are good to go and ready to enter the kegging arena.

+1.  Eventually you'll need to get o-ring change kits and keg lube to ensure you get a good seal, but I'm assuming this keg should have new seals. I would use a thin layer of keg lube on the new seals - nothing is worse than a small air leak that drains your CO2 tank or keeps beer from carbonating fully.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: Stevie on April 25, 2015, 03:49:21 AM
Did you go new or used keg?
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: flbrewer on April 25, 2015, 10:13:59 AM

Did you go new or used keg?
new
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: euge on April 25, 2015, 11:06:49 AM
Dual regulator.

I used cobra taps for nearly eight years until landing a proper kegerator with a tower. Realize now that I wasn't really missing anything.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: ScottBeh on April 25, 2015, 11:18:21 AM
I would spring for the thumb adjust out pressure rather than the flat screwdriver/hex nut style
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: flbrewer on April 25, 2015, 12:56:50 PM
I would spring for the thumb adjust out pressure rather than the flat screwdriver/hex nut style

Yeah, had planned that.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: flbrewer on April 25, 2015, 01:01:30 PM
I know I'll need a couple of quick disconnects, and some lines as well. Why are there so many options here?
http://www.beveragefactory.com/draftbeer/couplers/balllock.shtml


Do you also need some sort of clips or clamps for the gas/ beer lines?

I'm considering non-PVC tubing. I see they sell stuff like this http://www.morebeer.com/products/ultra-barrier-silver-antimicrobial-pvc-free-beer-tubing-516-id-foot.html
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: leejoreilly on April 25, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
I know I'll need a couple of quick disconnects, and some lines as well. Why are there so many options here?
http://www.beveragefactory.com/draftbeer/couplers/balllock.shtml


Do you also need some sort of clips or clamps for the gas/ beer lines?

I use hose clamps on my gas lines because I initially turn the pressure up to about 30 psi to seal the keg and jump-start carbing. Probably belt-and-suspenders, but that's what us anal guys do. I don't use them on beer lines, since they only see serving pressure.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: 4swan on April 25, 2015, 08:24:49 PM
I have a spray bottle that I have filled with Starsan solution made with distilled water.  I spray the picnic tap to clear out residual beer.  It helps keep it clean between servings.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: dmfcb750 on April 26, 2015, 12:44:52 PM
It really depends on whether you arr using the CO2 to push beer or carbonate the kegged beer. I add about a third cup of sugar when kegging and let it sit a couple of weeks then use CO2 to push beer.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: klickitat jim on April 26, 2015, 04:46:06 PM
What's going to drive you nuts is when you have to turn in your brand new shiny empty CO2 tank for an old beat up full one. Ask me how i know. Especially if you discover that you paid more for the new one than a deposit would have been.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: euge on April 26, 2015, 05:34:30 PM
I've never swapped a tank. Any place I've been will fill it on the spot, usually. I won't leave the tank or exchange.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: flbrewer on April 26, 2015, 06:48:50 PM
Yeah I verified that before I ordered one!
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: EricHSmith on April 26, 2015, 07:42:03 PM
Harbor Freight has a decent regulator for about $30. That's 1/2 of what most LHBS will have one for.


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Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: micsager on April 27, 2015, 07:22:19 PM
I've never swapped a tank. Any place I've been will fill it on the spot, usually. I won't leave the tank or exchange.

I lost a nice new one the first time I exchanged.  But big deal.  I use the Co2, not the pretty tank.  Plus, if I want my own tank filled, it's a 70 mile drive.  To exchange it, is less than 5 miles.  Pretty simple.  The thing that gets me, is a 5lb tank cost me about $18.  A 20lb tank is $21.  That's why I have been slowly selling my 5lb ones.  Just need two for the kegerators.  But for carbonating, and such, the 20lb is the way to go.  (at least with a 1bbl system)
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: euge on April 27, 2015, 08:47:56 PM
+1 I agree on the 20#'er. Then one can fill their 5# tanks from it! ;D
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: klickitat jim on April 27, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
Agreed. Im going to add a 20 for out in the brewery and keep my two 5s for the tap. Just because they fit inside.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: bassetman on April 27, 2015, 11:07:12 PM
Exchange is the only choice in this area. If you want your tank filled it will be gone a month.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: S. cerevisiae on May 02, 2015, 03:14:18 PM
What's going to drive you nuts is when you have to turn in your brand new shiny empty CO2 tank for an old beat up full one. Ask me how i know. Especially if you discover that you paid more for the new one than a deposit would have been.

There's no need to swap a new CO2 tank for an old blemished tank. Most medium-sized towns usually have at least one fire extinguisher service company that will fill a CO2 tank for the price of the gas that it takes to fill the tank (sometimes one may have to drop the tank off and pick up it up later).  These companies also hydrostatic test tanks for a price that is low enough that it makes sense to have even 5lb tanks hydrostatic tested.  I have found the specialized gas companies to be a total ripoff.  They usually charge almost as much to fill a 5lb tank as they do a 20lb tank, and their hydrostatic test charges tend to turn 5lb tanks into disposable items.
Title: Re: Keg Coming....Now What?
Post by: Phil_M on May 02, 2015, 03:26:46 PM
FWIW, I bought a nice aluminum tank new with my kegerator, and I've always swapped it. Local welding shop has yet to give me a replacement aluminum tank that has been anything other than spotless.

That being said, my local welding shop has a really great reputation in the area, and they also stock a lot of draft equipment.