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Title: What's for dinner?
Post by: niquejim on November 12, 2009, 01:51:53 AM
There's enough former NBer's here. Let's start it
What are you cooking'? ;)

Tonight my wife wanted breakfast for dinner, so I did Ham/onion/mushrooms mixture ( hereafter listed as ham) 4 ways

I did ham with country gravy and biscuits,
then Cajun seasoned ham in hash browns with cheddar,
then fajita seasoned ham and eggs with Mexican blend cheese
and finally cinnamon spiced waffles with a cooked ham and maple syrup, cinnamon, nutmeg and clove sauce

For a first attempt at something like this, it turned out great and there was very little left

Tomorrow is smoked chicken
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: dhacker on November 12, 2009, 10:46:33 PM
DAng Jim . . yer outta control in the kitchen!

Don't know about tonight, last night was pulled pork shoulder BBQ sandwiches with potato salad and baked beans . . washed down with a Scottish 80.   8)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: denny on November 12, 2009, 10:48:38 PM
Shepherd's pie (made with ground turkey) and fresh baked bread.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: tesla_hv on November 12, 2009, 10:50:17 PM
If I'm cooking; tacos - if my wife's cooking probably nothing.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: niquejim on November 13, 2009, 12:08:40 AM
Shepherd's pie (made with ground turkey) and fresh baked bread.

As a baker for the past 20+ years I can honestly say that there is nothing ( yeah, that's right even that.......(well maybe not)) that is better than fresh from the oven bread.
No smoked chicken today. My wife herniated a disc in her back shortly after my post yesterday. Today was doctors and pharmacies
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: maxieboy on November 13, 2009, 12:42:20 AM
Maple smoke-roasted chicken thighs, baked buttercup squash, baked potatoes, glazed carrots, and cornbread. Accompanied with AG Anchor Porter clone.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: brewboy on November 13, 2009, 12:47:15 AM
Blackened chicken breast with grilled green beans. I'm kind of on a diet.  :-\
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: niquejim on November 13, 2009, 01:35:44 AM
. I'm kind of on a diet.  :-\

I will soon know what that is like. I'm going to lose the 50lbs I've gained since I started brewing. Then I will start brewing again
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: loopy on November 13, 2009, 02:05:07 AM
rotissery chicken with garlic, butter and basil + french bread with butter, italian seasoning + shredded mozz + 4 cheese macaroni & cheese.  served with iced green tea. 

I'm kinda *not* on a diet. 
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: hamiltont on November 13, 2009, 02:22:40 AM
Leftovers... Salad & Fettuccine.  Okay, now don't crucify me here.  Washed it down with a Rye IPA/Sweet Stout blend.  :o Quasi Black & Tan I suppose.  I thought it was amazing. Rye, hops, sweet, bitter, chocolate... Very complex!  It's really hard to explain but I liked it, a lot!
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on November 13, 2009, 02:29:26 AM
NY-style pepperoni pizza...mmm.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: bluesman on November 13, 2009, 02:32:42 AM
NY-style pepperoni pizza...mmm.

Matt...we need some pics... ;D
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: denny on November 13, 2009, 04:16:55 PM
. I'm kind of on a diet.  :-\

I will soon know what that is like. I'm going to lose the 50lbs I've gained since I started brewing. Then I will start brewing again

You and me both, bro!  I lost 30 of it at one point, gained it back plus more when I couldn't exercise after a heart attack.  I'm back on the treadmill at least 5 days a week now, but I've got a long way to go.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: roffenburger on November 13, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
Oklahoma Joe's BBQ. Quite possibly the best you can get!
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: niquejim on November 17, 2009, 06:21:23 PM
How does a ham stir fry with Bok-Choy, broccolini, leeks, fingerhot pepper, mango, pineapple and Thai rice noodles with a mango/ pineapple/ tequila sauce sound?

I'll let you know after we eat it
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: deepsouth on November 17, 2009, 07:07:39 PM
semi-homemade chili tonight.....
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: denny on November 17, 2009, 07:13:48 PM
Today I'm stuck at home waiting for the cable guy.  It's cold and rainy so I'm gonna bake some bread and make a big pot of chicken/veg/orzo soup.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: niquejim on November 17, 2009, 08:20:28 PM
Today I'm stuck at home waiting for the cable guy.  It's cold and rainy so I'm gonna bake some bread and make a big pot of chicken/veg/orzo soup.

Don't worry, he'll be there between 9am and midnight
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: tubercle on November 17, 2009, 08:32:24 PM
Homemade chicken pot pie.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: nicneufeld on November 17, 2009, 09:54:12 PM
Oklahoma Joe's BBQ. Quite possibly the best you can get!

 :-X :-X :-X

Probably frying up a chicken tonight, maybe some fries with the oil.  Nothing too fancy!
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: bluesman on November 17, 2009, 10:15:33 PM
Stromboli!

Philadelphia style. Three meat with mozzarella and provolone. Homeade Italian Bread dough of course.

mmm...mmm...good

Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: lonnie mac on November 17, 2009, 10:38:47 PM
My Son calls them "Black Lung Marmalade Sriracha Wings"...

One of my favorite cooks!

(http://www.alenuts.com/stuff/wings.jpg)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: loopy on November 18, 2009, 12:44:07 AM
manicotti with venison burger in the red sauce.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: tubercle on November 18, 2009, 01:00:22 AM
Homemade chicken pot pie.


 And here it is

(http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/ww207/tubercle_photo/DSCN1362.jpg)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 18, 2009, 04:40:10 AM
Wow man, that looks great. That would fit perfect in the Comfort Food thread.

Can we get a recipe for that pie?

Man hat thing looks delicious!

How bout some more Southern dishes.

Do you know how to cook Possum and raccoon?



Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: ndcube on November 18, 2009, 04:53:34 PM
Beef stew.  With plenty of bay leaves.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: nicneufeld on November 18, 2009, 05:11:08 PM
I feel fairly happy with myself...deep frying is something I've not done a lot of, but I feel like I nailed fried chicken last night.  Used a lot of hot pepper sauce in the egg wash, gave it a great flavor, though not much heat.  Come to think of it, that's what's in my lunch, maybe its time to take an early lunch break....
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: roffenburger on November 19, 2009, 10:45:36 PM
Oklahoma Joe's BBQ. Quite possibly the best you can get!

 :-X :-X :-X

Probably frying up a chicken tonight, maybe some fries with the oil.  Nothing too fancy!

Not a fan, Nic?
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: niquejim on November 19, 2009, 11:08:08 PM
Tonight is herb and panko crusted Tilapia with mushroom risotto and roasted artichokes. Nothing fancy
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: weazletoe on November 20, 2009, 04:16:15 AM
Pizza Hut, here.  ::)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: bonjour on November 20, 2009, 04:19:32 AM
A homemade pizza tonight, with a bottle of Pliny.

Nice

Fred
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: nicneufeld on November 20, 2009, 02:20:22 PM
Oklahoma Joe's BBQ. Quite possibly the best you can get!
:-X :-X :-X
Not a fan, Nic?
Oh, it was alright, and I've no great intention to set alight the raging fires of the BBQ WARS, but OK Joes did not impress me...I would have found it not so bad except for the wealth of praise and adulation heaped upon it by some Kansan relatives.  The ribs I had were OK, the fries were sodium delivery sticks (I like a salty fry, but holy crap, those things were desicating my insides!), and the sauces (tried the normal and the spicy) just weren't my favorite...beans weren't my style either.  The place was packed and it took us an hour to get served...again, it was more the vast discrepancy between reputation/expectations, and the actual food that struck me.  Personally I'm an LC's kinda guy, which is right down the road from me, and Gates sauce is my favorite.  Also like Jack Stack.  My first job was at a small BBQ place in east KC that is no longer there, but they had awesome beans and sausage.  But that's the great thing about BBQ, everybody has different favorites...I don't mean to be too negative, anybody serving smoked meats gets respect from me...man, criticizing somebody's favorite BBQ place feels like insulting their momma or something, no offense man!  In fairness they aren't the bottom of the barrel in KC BBQ by any stretch.  I just thought it was weird how widespread love for OK Joes is...maybe its a Kansan thing (I'm MO side)?
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: brewboy on November 20, 2009, 02:32:33 PM
If you want good barbecue, go to Angelo's, just north of downtown Ft Worth.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: majorvices on November 20, 2009, 02:49:26 PM
Last night, Roast Beef (w/potatoes, onions, mushrooms and garlic) from the crock pot, brown rice from the rice cooker and steamed broccoli. And a half pint of my Saison.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: nicneufeld on November 20, 2009, 03:14:43 PM
Last night, Roast Beef (w/potatoes, onions, mushrooms and garlic) from the crock pot

Don't let cappozoli hear about that!!   :o   ;)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: pinnah on November 20, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
Last night, Roast Beef (w/potatoes, onions, mushrooms and garlic) from the crock pot

Don't let cappozoli hear about that!!   :o   ;)

 :D..crock pot AND a rice cooker...you are in for in now buddy  ;)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: tubercle on November 20, 2009, 08:48:19 PM
A mix of turnip, collard, rape and mustard greens fresh out of the garden boiled w/smoked ham hock.

1/2 white beans & 1/2 pinto beans cooked in the pressure cooker with another smoked ham hock.

Pickled okra.

Cornbread to soak up the pot likker.

Recliner until Mrs. Tubercle wakes me up and makes me go to bed.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: Robert on November 20, 2009, 09:17:07 PM
Funny, that's what mama's cookin' tonight too. Beans and cornbread. Except 100% pintos and no greens.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: beerocd on November 20, 2009, 11:06:10 PM


Don't let cappozoli hear about that!!   :o   ;)

OK, I'll bite - what's wrong with a crock pot?  :-\
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 21, 2009, 12:51:19 AM
Hey, its like this. Cooking is like brewing, if it works for you and you are happy with the results then it is great.

For example: I am an extract brewer. I have not yet found the time to go to AG. Extract works for me. I can make a few batches of ale and cider, stock them away in the basement and it will last. It works for me. Is it the best way to brew so to reach a consistent level of quality that I want to achieve? no. For now it has to do.

I personally don't like crock pots and if ever editing your kitchen appliance I would recommend loosing the crock pot and upgrading, go to "AG" so to speak.

My argument is; why cook a piece of meat for eight hours until it is completely dried out stringy and over cooked? The meat loses it flavor. I have never had an outstanding meal made in a crock pot. I wont say it was bad just 'OK'. So' many people have tried to convince me by serving me their special dish made in a crock pot and I am never impressed. Just turns it to mush.

The argument on the other side is that you can start dinner in the morning and have it ready when you get home. I personally dont see the convenience cause I can do the same job in a pressure cooker in a tiny fraction of the time and energy consumption. I could prepare the ingredients in the AM get home from work put them in the pressure cooker and have the tough , beef pork, venison tender and ready to eat in under an hou, small enough pieces in a half hour. With a little practice and the pressure cooker you can make great stuff, whole dry beans, tough pieces of meat, (whatever) and with no fuss it comes out delicious and perfectly cooked in very, very little time.

Dutch oven works the same too.

Its like nonstick pans, I just dont need it.

But if it is working for you it is just fine. Nothing wrong with a crock pot. Works great keeping your meatballs and sauce warm on the table.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: tygo on November 21, 2009, 02:12:00 AM
I agree cap that the crock pot doesn't put forth the A quality meal but it sure is convenient.  I don't have a pressure cooker and even if I did my wife and son get home well before I do and I wouldn't have the time to do up a nice roast, for example, for dinner on a regular weekday night.  I just made a roast in the crock pot yesterday.  Spent about 20 minutes in the morning seasoning and searing the roast, popped it in the crock pot with the necessary spices and veggies, and bam, when we walk in the door we have something resembling a home cooked meal.  Otherwise, with our schedule it ends up being microwaved chicken nuggets and mixed vegetables.

Anyway, for dinner tonight:  Roasted breaded porkchops

1 - 1/2 inch chops with the bone in
Take 2 slices of white bread and a shallot roughly chopped and throw them in the food processor
Add finely chopped Parmesan cheese and dried parsley along with a couple teaspoons of olive oil
Spread on a baking sheet and bake at 350 for maybe 4 minutes.  Do not overbake.

Wash chops, pat dry, rub all over with sea salt and fresh ground pepper.  Coat with dijon mustard as the wetting agent (don't be shy, slather that stuff on there) and then coat with the prepared breadcrumbs.  Back into the oven for about an hour at 350.  Pure heaven.  I'm very sated right now.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: beerocd on November 21, 2009, 02:58:38 AM

Its like nonstick pans, I just dont need it.


Back to this eh? :D
What about Italian Beef, chilli, pulled pork, corned beef and cabbage, oatmeal, and then there's the stews.
You just can't do everything in life "AG".

-OCD
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 21, 2009, 04:01:48 AM
OMG, you are not cooking your corn beef and cabbage in a crock pot are you?

Dude, you are going to hell.

J/k

Funny you bring up chili.

I can put all of the ingredients for chili, including dry beans that have not been soaked into the pressure cooker and a half hour later it is done. Dry beans man, the same beans you have to soak overnight and cook in the crock pot for six hours.

I love my pressure cooker!!!

They are not expensive if you shop around and once you use one there is no going without one ever again.

But comparing it to AG. I will one day brew AG. I just have to build my Brutus system then I can expedite my AG brewing so it will fit into my schedule. So like tygo said. If you dont have a pressure cooker and you dont have time before to cook then what choice do you have.

My only argument is there is a better way and it wont take a bite out of your time if you have the tools.

Just spreading the good word.

Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: bluesman on November 21, 2009, 04:42:33 AM
I will one day brew AG. I just have to build my Brutus system then I can expedite my AG brewing so it will fit into my schedule. My only argument is there is a better way and it wont take a bite out of your time if you have the tools.

Just spreading the good word.

Can I get an Amen...

When are we going to build those Brutus Stands?
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: loopy on November 21, 2009, 05:06:48 AM
I can put all of the ingredients for chili, including dry beans that have not been soaked into the pressure cooker and a half hour later it is done. Dry beans man, the same beans you have to soak overnight and cook in the crock pot for six hours.

I love my pressure cooker!!!

care to drop this process and recipe in the recipes forum?  I have a pressure cooker - bought it this year to do some canning from the garden.  But we consumed most of what grew except just 2 or 3 weeks when we passed on to others.  It want a bumper year for us.

Anyway, I have only used it once - did a venison roast and way overdid it at 10pounds for an hour and 15 minutes.  it was overcooked but very moist.  A touch on the stringy side so I shredded it and froze for tamales .. which I haven't made yet. 

I am totally green on the pressure cooker.  would love to do some chili in it.  can you post this recipe? 
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 21, 2009, 05:19:13 AM
I will but am I gonna get railed for putting beans in it? :P Its yankee style.

I have quite a few recipes for what I call chili. I make a black bean chili where I use tamatillos instead of tomato.
I also make a mole chili using cocoa powder. Good stuff! I love beans.

Ill post some recipes in the chili thread.

Know whats great?  a Carolina beef and black bean soup. Not chili but comes out great from the pressure cooker. 
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: tubercle on November 21, 2009, 01:49:55 PM
I use a pressure cooker all  the time. Used one last night for 1/2 mixture of white and pinto beans. I also do roast, sauces, etc..

I also do the crock pot thing though. Cube steak and brown gravy is hard to beat.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: majorvices on November 21, 2009, 01:56:21 PM


My argument is; why cook a piece of meat for eight hours until it is completely dried out stringy and over cooked? The meat loses it flavor. I have never had an outstanding meal made in a crock pot. I wont say it was bad just 'OK'. So' many people have tried to convince me by serving me their special dish made in a crock pot and I am never impressed. Just turns it to mush.



If you slow cook with those results you are doing something wrong. Slow cooking is very much like braising - your goal is to "melt" the connective tissue into the meat. If the meat is dried out you cooked it too hot.

That said, I often do a slow cooker meal because I can bring the kids to Tae Kwon Do, get home and have a meal ready to eat. I am the main cook in the house. No one EVER complains about Roast Beef. Know that.  ;)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: beerocd on November 21, 2009, 03:52:57 PM
OMG, you are not cooking your corn beef and cabbage in a crock pot are you?


You gotta stagger the cabbage. Otherwise as you say.....mush.

-OCD
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 21, 2009, 06:50:36 PM
Oh man, I am all about brazing!!! I love braised short ribs and osso buko.

Braising is an art, a skill, a balance of temperature and time (a ballet) that is adjusted to accommodate the size and type of meat. I doubt you are going to achieve that in a crock pot. I dont know, maybe I am wrong? 

If I was able to get a good finished product out of the crock pot I still wouldn't use it. Cant seem to justify using $7.35 in electric to cook a $3.00 piece of meat. Especially when I can get far superior results in a pressure cooker using about $.35 worth of electric.

The way I see it there are two kinds of people in the world. The ones that use a crock pot and the ones that would not use a crock pot. The ones that use crock pots are the enemy. They are going to slow cook the earth until there is nothing left.

People that use crock pots are the same people that have an old rusting mustang on cinder blocks in the front yard. They sit on their sofa that is on the front porch and talk about how they been workin on the Mustang for the last 17 years.  ;D

You guys know Im kidding right?

 Lets face it, debating is fun, and how many culinary and brewing things are debatable?

For sure the usefulness of the crock pot is.


 
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: majorvices on November 21, 2009, 07:11:14 PM
Oh man, I am all about brazing!!! I love braised short ribs and osso buko.

Braising is an art, a skill, a balance of temperature and time (a ballet) that is adjusted to accommodate the size and type of meat. I doubt you are going to achieve that in a crock pot. I dont know, maybe I am wrong? 

If I was able to get a good finished product out of the crock pot I still wouldn't use it. Cant seem to justify using $7.35 in electric to cook a $3.00 piece of meat. Especially when I can get far superior results in a pressure cooker using about $.35 worth of electric.

The way I see it there are two kinds of people in the world. The ones that use a crock pot and the ones that would not use a crock pot. The ones that use crock pots are the enemy. They are going to slow cook the earth until there is nothing left.

People that use crock pots are the same people that have an old rusting mustang on cinder blocks in the front yard. They sit on their sofa that is on the front porch and talk about how they been workin on the Mustang for the last 17 years.  ;D

You guys know Im kidding right?

 Lets face it, debating is fun, and how many culinary and brewing things are debatable?

For sure the usefulness of the crock pot is.


 

I think the real problem here isn;t crock pots - it's that you are a Crack Pot.  :P
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: Robert on November 21, 2009, 11:46:53 PM
People that use crock pots are the same people that have an old rusting mustang on cinder blocks in the front yard. They sit on their sofa that is on the front porch and talk about how they been workin on the Mustang for the last 17 years.  ;D


It's a Trans Am if you care! And we sit on the backseat of it  that's been removed and sittin on the porch that I swear I'm gonna put back in next month after I get 'er fixed up right!

Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: corkybstewart on November 22, 2009, 12:00:02 AM
I love New Mexico in the fall.  I've got a pot of green chile pork posole on the stove and it's about dinnertime.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: beerocd on November 22, 2009, 02:48:23 AM
I dont know, maybe I am wrong? 

If I was able to get a good finished product out of the crock pot I still wouldn't use it. Cant seem to justify using $7.35 in electric to cook a $3.00 piece of meat. Especially when I can get far superior results in a pressure cooker using about $.35 worth of electric.

People that use crock pots are the same people that have an old rusting mustang on cinder blocks in the front yard. 

Oh, you're way off this time. I think I can cook the whole cow for 7.35 in electric. And the car in my yard keeps it out of the landfill, provides cover in case of a gun fight, cuts down on greenhouse gasses cuz I have that much less to mow, and when the trunk is full of cans I know I've got about $10.35 coming to me from the recyling center. $3 for the meat and the rest for the electric.

And I can't believe you cook on electric! I'd be converting that right away - no control over the heat. Gas is instantaneous - I'd never serve food to anyone else that was cooked on electric due to lack of overall control and an iffy final product. Some of the worst food I've ever had was off an electric stove. ;)


-OCD

Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 22, 2009, 03:06:42 AM
LMFAO!!!

You guys are great!

I do cook on electric and it almost kept me from buying this house. There is no gas in this hood.

But Ill tell ya true, I changed my mind. I got one of those porcelain top electric stoves. I think it is a Profile. Awe man is it great. It does get hot right away as gas does, and I have more control and more evenly distributed heat on the pan. Only draw back is the heat doesn't go right down, stays hot for a while. You have to remove the pan from the burner. No big deal.

But no crap, much better than a gas burner. In fact they make these stoves with gas. I think it is a burner under the porcelain and it conducts the heat the same way. Clean up is a snap too, it is a sealed surface.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: lonnie mac on November 22, 2009, 03:27:50 AM
I love New Mexico in the fall.  I've got a pot of green chile pork posole on the stove and it's about dinnertime.

Gawd to be back in NM... I lived there for 9 years.

Now... I cook EVERYTHING on lump. So I don't really know what all you people are taking about!
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: majorvices on November 22, 2009, 03:19:07 PM
LMFAO!!!

You guys are great!

I do cook on electric and it almost kept me from buying this house. There is no gas in this hood.

But Ill tell ya true, I changed my mind. I got one of those porcelain top electric stoves. I think it is a Profile. Awe man is it great. It does get hot right away as gas does, and I have more control and more evenly distributed heat on the pan. Only draw back is the heat doesn't go right down, stays hot for a while. You have to remove the pan from the burner. No big deal.

But no crap, much better than a gas burner. In fact they make these stoves with gas. I think it is a burner under the porcelain and it conducts the heat the same way. Clean up is a snap too, it is a sealed surface.

I bought and used a porcelain stove in my old house and it really was a great stove. No where near as good as the gas stove I have here though. You're lying to yourself if you really believe that porcelain is better (or even just as good) as gas.  ;)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: bluesman on November 22, 2009, 04:24:53 PM
Yeah...When I bought my current house the first thing I asked for was a gas cooktop. It's the bomb diggity dawg.  8)

Once you go gas you'll never go back.  ;)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 22, 2009, 04:26:41 PM
I have worked with "high end" gas stoves. I have worked as a line cook on commercial gas stoves.  I have used several kinds of gas stoves.

My electric burners are as good as gas, better cause there isnt a ring of concentrated heat. It is heated evenly across the whole surface of the pan. I have the extra large burner and the bridge burner. The only thing that bothers me a little is I have to remove the pan from the burner if I want the heat to stop immediate.

A regular residential gas burner does not even come close.

Would I rather have one of these?

http://www.welovecostarica.com/public/images/2078e.jpg

Hell yes!

But if it aint one of those, it aint cookin no better than my electric stove.


What reasons do you think a gas range is better?
  
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on November 22, 2009, 04:50:53 PM
I prefer a gas cooktop because it is easier to control, IME.  Plus, there are techniques that one can achieve with gas that simply aren't possible with electric.  E.g., roasting peppers over the open flame, finishing omelettes by tilting the pan over the flame after you've folded the omelette (a technique Julia mentions in Mastering the Art, as I recall).  Also, I suppose it depends on what type of gas cooktop you're using, but gas can heat just as evenly as electric if you've got a burner that has both an inner and outer ring.  I've never owned my own cooktop since I don't own my own place, but when I do buy my first house, it will have a gas cooktop.

P.S. I detest crockpots.   ;D :P
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 22, 2009, 05:16:02 PM
I fire up some hot coals for the red peppers or my long Italian hots.

I know what you mean though. Also you cant add wine a deglaze with a little flame. Just for show I know, but I miss it.

Funny what Lonnie Mac said about lump coal cause next house Im going to build a wood burning stove that has a cook top, a built in oven for bread and pizza, and a sort of hanger to hang a pot for gulash or stew. Also a place to set the dutch oven with coals on top.

I would like to get that exact range pictured above too, but not sure I will be able to afford it...maybe.



Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: majorvices on November 22, 2009, 10:53:27 PM
You crock pot haters can go ahead and hate. I agree they are not ideal for everything - but for roast beef they work great. But, I'm willing to learn. What would be a better way to cook a roast beef? Or, would you simply cook something else?
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: dhacker on November 22, 2009, 11:19:58 PM
Tonight?

A big bowl of popcorn and a couple Schlafly Dry Irish Stouts.  :D
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: bluesman on November 22, 2009, 11:38:18 PM
You crock pot haters can go ahead and hate. I agree they are not ideal for everything - but for roast beef they work great. But, I'm willing to learn. What would be a better way to cook a roast beef? Or, would you simply cook something else?

+1

Honestly...I love a nice Beef Roast sauteed in some bacon drippings first...yeah that's right I said bacon drippings. Then assemle the seared beef with some onions, mushrooms, carrots and potatoes...and don't forget the garlic...
some fresh herbs and some beef broth to simmer with...some salt and pepper...maybe some chili powder...I said maybe.

in a Crock Pot...low and slow for about 6 to 8 hrs.

Now that's good eatin'  8)

You know the old saying..."there's more than one way to skin a cat"  ;D





Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: tubercle on November 23, 2009, 12:15:42 AM
Just don't forget to take the drippin's and make some gravy ;D
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: roffenburger on November 23, 2009, 12:35:45 AM
Oklahoma Joe's BBQ. Quite possibly the best you can get!
:-X :-X :-X
Not a fan, Nic?
Oh, it was alright, and I've no great intention to set alight the raging fires of the BBQ WARS, but OK Joes did not impress me...I would have found it not so bad except for the wealth of praise and adulation heaped upon it by some Kansan relatives.  The ribs I had were OK, the fries were sodium delivery sticks (I like a salty fry, but holy crap, those things were desicating my insides!), and the sauces (tried the normal and the spicy) just weren't my favorite...beans weren't my style either.  The place was packed and it took us an hour to get served...again, it was more the vast discrepancy between reputation/expectations, and the actual food that struck me.  Personally I'm an LC's kinda guy, which is right down the road from me, and Gates sauce is my favorite.  Also like Jack Stack.  My first job was at a small BBQ place in east KC that is no longer there, but they had awesome beans and sausage.  But that's the great thing about BBQ, everybody has different favorites...I don't mean to be too negative, anybody serving smoked meats gets respect from me...man, criticizing somebody's favorite BBQ place feels like insulting their momma or something, no offense man!  In fairness they aren't the bottom of the barrel in KC BBQ by any stretch.  I just thought it was weird how widespread love for OK Joes is...maybe its a Kansan thing (I'm MO side)?

Not offended at all! I look forward to OK Joes, though the wait and the crowding factor does suck a bit. Maybe it is a Kansas thing ;). I have heard really really good things about LC's, but haven't been there yet. Do they serve you on butcher paper? My brother in law specifically asked for a place where they serve you on butcher paper when he was here. I never knew where LC's was until my wife and I just happened to drive by it one day (we don't make it to that area often). It was closed.
I love me some Jack Stack too!
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: maxieboy on November 23, 2009, 01:00:50 AM
You crock pot haters can go ahead and hate. I agree they are not ideal for everything - but for roast beef they work great. But, I'm willing to learn. What would be a better way to cook a roast beef? Or, would you simply cook something else?

+1

Honestly...I love a nice Beef Roast sauteed in some bacon drippings first...yeah that's right I said bacon drippings. Then assemle the seared beef with some onions, mushrooms, carrots and potatoes...and don't forget the garlic...
some fresh herbs and some beef broth to simmer with...some salt and pepper...maybe some chili powder...I said maybe.

in a Crock Pot...low and slow for about 6 to 8 hrs.

Now that's good eatin'  8)

You know the old saying..."there's more than one way to skin a cat"  ;D






  Funny, just finished chowing on pot roast, onions, potatos, and carrots done in...a crock pot. Brown off a nicely marbled, seasoned chuck roast and in she goes with the veggies, a few cloves of garlic, a couple bay leaves, and some red wine or stock. A nice green salad to go with. Old fashioned, simple Sunday fare.
 Excellent way to go for meals after a long day being active in the cold outdoors when all you want to do is have a beer, relax, and eat. It's just one tool in the arsenal...
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: bonjour on November 23, 2009, 04:31:03 AM
I'd rather do the roast low and slow on a smoker, but crock pot pot roast is awesome.  Works well for cornbeef as well.

Fred
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 23, 2009, 10:44:48 PM
Here is a good roast beef recipe. If you are into slow cooking , great cause this one takes about a week.

This is the type of dish you would get in a class A beef house. The kind of place that serves dry aged beef.

Pick a decent cut of beef, one that suits the amount of people. I prefer doing this with a rib roast cut from the butcher.This cut is basically prime rib. But you could use just about any cut of beef. Talk to the butcher where you buy the beef even if it is at the grocery store. Ask them if they can give you something really fresh. Tell them you are going to dry age it.

Then get a set of about six sturdy dish towels. You don't want them to fray and come apart.  When you get home launder if they are new, Take three of the towels and lay them out on the counter. Rub the beef with some kosher salt. Place the beef on the center of the towels and wrap the beef. Put the wrapped beef into a roasting dish. This is because the meat will loose a lot of moister and you don't want it leaking every where. Let this sit in the fridge for a day or three till the towels become soaked with blood. Take the towels off and set out the other three clean towel. wrap the beef again and, put it back in the pan into the fridge, launder the bloody towels.  repeat this for a week to ten days. You will extract a lot of the moister and the meat will become more dense. The natural enzymes within the meat will also start to break it down.

When ready to prepare the roast beef. unwrap it from the towels and cut away the first 1/8" - 1/4" of the surface of the meat.
This is one of the reasons dry aged beef is so expensive. You are taking away a lot of moisture then you are also cutting some away,  not to mention the price of handling the beef for the aging time. You can get aged beef at the Reading Terminal Market for about $30 per LB.  :o

Anyways you will have it like above for far less.

After you have trimmed the aged beef, get a large enough lidded roaster pan for the meat and a few other ingredients. Place the meat in the center of the pan. Around it place some onion wedges, whole clipped garlic, fresh rosemary, bay leaf, red wine (preferably burgundy) salt and fresh cracked pepper. Top with a few pats of butter and cover the roaster pan with the lid, or foil.. Put it into a preheated oven at 400 degrees. Let this roast till you get it just under your target temperature. (using a meat thermometer). Then uncover it for the last third of the cooking time. Baste it frequently and cook till you reach your desired internal temp. I,E. rare to well done.

You can also put potatoes and carrots or something in with the beef as well. Best to roast that stuff with the meat.

As far as gravy goes, Ill post my recipe for a burgundy beef demiglaze with green pepper corns latter, basically its a beef oxtail stock that is reduced by half, enriched with wine and thickened slightly with a roux. oh and we have to get a recipe for Yorkshire pudding going too. 

Yorkshire puddings are a little tough. Somebody had a few tricks back in the old country, was it nic? I remember somebody was turning them out. Oh man are they good for sopping up the demiglaze. 
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: nicneufeld on November 23, 2009, 11:51:08 PM
Not me!  I'm terrible at Yorkshire pudding.  Love good British food, but lack the skill and experience to churn out a good YP.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: majorvices on November 24, 2009, 03:55:08 AM
Here is a good roast beef recipe. If you are into slow cooking , great cause this one takes about a week.

This is the type of dish you would get in a class A beef house. The kind of place that serves dry aged beef.

And to think you were b****in' about a 3 dollar cut of meat cooked with 7 dollars worth of electricity! I'll stick with my crock pot.  ;)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 24, 2009, 12:40:33 PM
One could make beer into whiskey with a crock pot. If one was so inclined.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/8260150/The-TwoDollar-Crockpot-Still

coarse one would have age it in oak for five or ten years.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: wilypig on November 24, 2009, 02:39:58 PM
Thanksgiving menu

Roast Turkey
Succotash
Palak Paneer (Punjabi cheese and greens)

Mashed Potato
Saffron Rice
Traditional stuffing
Stove top stuffing

Green Bean Casserole
Squash with Cranberry
Aloo Gobi (Punjabi Cauliflower and Potato)

Corn muffins and bread
Dinner rolls
Roti (Indian unleavened bread)

Cranberry sauce canned and fresh
Gravy

The guest list includes a Hindi family
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on November 24, 2009, 03:33:34 PM
One could make beer into whiskey with a crock pot. If one was so inclined.

No, no, no. Grandma never used crock pot.
It was pressure cooker.
I never understood what that copper tubing was for.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: bluesman on November 24, 2009, 03:54:34 PM
One could make beer into whiskey with a crock pot. If one was so inclined.

No, no, no. Grandma never used crock pot.
It was pressure cooker.
I never understood what that copper tubing was for.

My family made shine back in the prohibition era...maybe another thread should be started...but anyway I remember seeing the copper tubing too. My Great grandparents used to hustle it in Wilmington, DE...specifically in the Polish community called Hedgeville. It was a hot seller. You couldn't make it fast enough.

 

Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: redbeerman on November 24, 2009, 05:41:33 PM
Not me!  I'm terrible at Yorkshire pudding.  Love good British food, but lack the skill and experience to churn out a good YP.

Hey nic  isn't good British food an oxymoron? ;)
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: capozzoli on November 25, 2009, 12:18:11 AM
Not me!  I'm terrible at Yorkshire pudding.  Love good British food, but lack the skill and experience to churn out a good YP.

I think the main ingredient in YP sauce is rasins, it is kinda like A1 sauce in that that has raisins too. I dont put either on my steaks, or roast beef.  I like them unfettered with just the aux jus.

There are a lot of great old beef houses in London. There is one that is a chain. Aubergines or something it is called. Great stuff.

I love English food. It is simple but good stick to your ribs food. We make fish and chips alot here and english breakfasts; fried eggs with fried tomatoes, mushrooms and baked beans.

London is a Mecca for good food, although I think that is mostly cause of the diverse immigrant population rather than the native cuisine.
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: nicneufeld on November 25, 2009, 02:25:57 AM
London probably has good food, but as you say its less about British food.  I think the highest expression of British food is in (what I understand to be) the vastly depleting countryside of England, the place that gave us Berkshire hogs, and vegetables grown with an inordinate amount of pride.  British country cooking is simple, but elegant in its simplicity, I think.  Give me a pork and apple pie over any silly pretentious continental dish drowned in some sort of something-aise sauce, any day!
Title: Re: What's for dinner?
Post by: loopy on November 26, 2009, 02:18:46 AM
i'v been to london three times, and the food is really bad.  I work for a british company, and even they say the same thing as they come to houston and try american/mexican food.  I did find a decent steakhouse in canary wharf, in the 20 canada square area.  except for offering to put mustard on it, it wasnt bad. 

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for tonights contribution to the thread, how about some chicken legs, rubbed in jalapeno salt and chili pequin seasoning.  grilled over mesquite hearts. 
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