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Title: what do you think of my american pale wheat ale recipe?
Post by: deepsouth on May 24, 2010, 06:22:48 AM
i'm brewing a couple beers for my belated 40th birthday party (sometime in august).  i'm not big on wheat beers, but my buddy had some of a wheat beer kit he wasn't using, so i grabbed it from him and i modified it to make it a pale wheat ale.  here goes....

i'll be doing a full boil.

7 lbs wheat lme
.5 lbs munich lme
2 lbs extra light dme

1 oz kent goldings @ 60
.5 oz simcoe @ 60
.25 oz hallertauer @ 60

.5 oz kent goldings @ 20
.25 oz hallerauer @ 20
.5 oz simcoe @ 20

.5 oz simcoe @ 0
.5 oz kent goldings @ 0
.5 oz hallertauer @ 0

white labs american hefeweizen yeast (w/ 1500 ml starter) wlp320

The wheat extract is a blend of 40% wheat malt and 60% 2-row barley.

The Munich extract is a blend of 40% Munich malt and 60% 2-row.


estimates:
1.068 OG
51 IBU



this is going to be my "light" beer.

my other beer is going to be a double ipa brewed with maris otter and belgian pale as the base malts and ringwood ale or american ale II yeast, but i haven't worked out specifics on that one yet.  it's going to be all grain.


thanks in advance.
Title: Re: what do you think of my american pale wheat ale recipe?
Post by: majorvices on May 24, 2010, 06:24:53 AM
I think it looks pretty tasty, myself. Personally, I'd rather get the OG/BU ratio closer (get the BUs up around 70) but that's just me.
Title: Re: what do you think of my american pale wheat ale recipe?
Post by: deepsouth on May 24, 2010, 07:17:55 AM
I think it looks pretty tasty, myself. Personally, I'd rather get the OG/BU ratio closer (get the BUs up around 70) but that's just me.


so you think i could pull off more hops in the beer without it being to bitter?


how does the revision look?
Title: Re: what do you think of my american pale wheat ale recipe?
Post by: richardt on May 24, 2010, 07:30:08 AM
From the BJCP Style Guidelines:
American Pale Ale Vital Statistics: OG: 1.045 – 1.060, IBUs: 30 – 45, FG: 1.010 – 1.015, SRM: 5 – 14, ABV: 4.5 – 6.2%.
American Wheat Beer Vital Statistics: OG: 1.040 – 1.055, IBUs: 15 – 30, FG: 1.008 – 1.013, SRM: 3 – 6, ABV: 4 – 5.5%

Your Pale Wheat Ale estimates: OG:  1.069, IBUs: 51.

You're already a little higher than the pale ale style guidelines for both OG and IBU's but the ratio seems the same. 
It's almost an Imperial Pale Wheat Ale.  ( ;)you've made a new style, perhaps?)

I'd stay closer to what you already have (i.e., I would not bump up to 70 IBUs).  It looks like a delicious recipe.
Title: Re: what do you think of my american pale wheat ale recipe?
Post by: deepsouth on May 24, 2010, 07:45:24 AM
thanks.

my other is going to be a hop monster, so this one i'll probably leave where it is now.
Title: Re: what do you think of my american pale wheat ale recipe?
Post by: majorvices on May 24, 2010, 08:17:53 AM
From the BJCP Style Guidelines:
American Pale Ale Vital Statistics: OG: 1.045 – 1.060, IBUs: 30 – 45, FG: 1.010 – 1.015, SRM: 5 – 14, ABV: 4.5 – 6.2%.
American Wheat Beer Vital Statistics: OG: 1.040 – 1.055, IBUs: 15 – 30, FG: 1.008 – 1.013, SRM: 3 – 6, ABV: 4 – 5.5%

Your Pale Wheat Ale estimates: OG:  1.069, IBUs: 51.

You're already a little higher than the pale ale style guidelines for both OG and IBU's but the ratio seems the same.  
It's almost an Imperial Pale Wheat Ale.  ( ;)you've made a new style, perhaps?)

I'd stay closer to what you already have (i.e., I would not bump up to 70 IBUs).  It looks like a delicious recipe.

I think its pretty silly to throw in the style guidelines on a 1.070 "wheat beer" with American, German and English hops.  ;) 51 BUs is probably a good balance between what you had and what I was suggesting. I make a hoppy wheat beer that is more like a pale ale with an equally matched OG to BU ratio, which is what I was thinking. Then again - I don't think a 1.070 beer with 70 BUs is very bitter. To me thats balanced. YMMV.  8)

What you have now looks about perfect to me. When's the party?  ;D
Title: Re: what do you think of my american pale wheat ale recipe?
Post by: deepsouth on May 24, 2010, 08:22:54 AM
From the BJCP Style Guidelines:
American Pale Ale Vital Statistics: OG: 1.045 – 1.060, IBUs: 30 – 45, FG: 1.010 – 1.015, SRM: 5 – 14, ABV: 4.5 – 6.2%.
American Wheat Beer Vital Statistics: OG: 1.040 – 1.055, IBUs: 15 – 30, FG: 1.008 – 1.013, SRM: 3 – 6, ABV: 4 – 5.5%

Your Pale Wheat Ale estimates: OG:  1.069, IBUs: 51.

You're already a little higher than the pale ale style guidelines for both OG and IBU's but the ratio seems the same. 
It's almost an Imperial Pale Wheat Ale.  ( ;)you've made a new style, perhaps?)

I'd stay closer to what you already have (i.e., I would not bump up to 70 IBUs).  It looks like a delicious recipe.

I think its pretty silly to throw in the style guidelines on a 1.070 "wheat beer" with American, German and English hops.  ;) 51 BUs is probably a good balance between what you had and what I was suggesting. I make a hoppy wheat beer that is more like a pale ale with an equally matched OG to BU ratio, which is what I was thinking. Then again - I don't think a 1.070 beer with 70 BUs is very bitter. To me thats balanced. YMMV.  8)

What you have now looks about perfect to me. When's the party?  ;D


yeah, it's totally not within any particular style.  i'm just hoping for tasty and drinkable.  the party is sometime in august.
Title: Re: what do you think of my american pale wheat ale recipe?
Post by: deepsouth on May 26, 2010, 05:47:46 PM
brewed this today while listening to zappa's wazoo.  so i'm calling it my "not so pale wazoo wheat"....  that munich malt (?) made this look more like a weizen (aren't those darker?) than a wheat.  i added a couple ten minute hop additions that added a couple ibu.  pre-boil volume was 7 gallons and i only boiled down to about 5.3 (or so) gallons, so i guess i'll have to bottle a few before i keg it.  i'm only using a 6 gallon better bottle with a 1.5L starter, so there's not much room.  i do have a blow off tube though.  hoping this american hefe yeast lives up to the reviews on the white labs page.
Title: Re: what do you think of my american pale wheat ale recipe?
Post by: majorvices on May 26, 2010, 06:19:05 PM
...this look more like a weizen (aren't those darker?) than a wheat. 

Weizen just mean "wheat" in Germany. Perhaps you mean "Dunkleweizen" .... Dunkle meaning dark.
Title: Re: what do you think of my american pale wheat ale recipe?
Post by: deepsouth on May 27, 2010, 07:19:52 AM
...this look more like a weizen (aren't those darker?) than a wheat. 

Weizen just mean "wheat" in Germany. Perhaps you mean "Dunkleweizen" .... Dunkle meaning dark.

there you go.  dunkleweisen.  that's what it looks like.