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Title: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: AmandaK on June 01, 2015, 02:00:59 PM
What's a good NHC plane book? I plan on buying Modern Homebrew Recipes while I am at NHC, so that my plane ride back is covered.

I already have just about every book from Brewers Publications outside of Malt, but I do not intend to buy that. I was looking at Liquid Intelligence, but it looks a bit too outside of a home-cocktail drinker's realm. Was also looking at Salumi, but I haven't made it through the projects that I want to do from Charcuterie yet... so that seems a bit silly to buy now.


Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: factory on June 01, 2015, 02:41:29 PM
Kind of funny (to me anyway) that you rule out the two books that I would have suggested to you.  I just got both of them in the mail from Amazon, and started reading Modern Homebrew Recipes this weekend.

Sorry, I'm out of Schlitz. haha.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: pete b on June 01, 2015, 02:53:25 PM
Do you have Buhner's "Sacred and healing Herbal Beers"? I say that because its a better read than most brewing books. I think you might like "The Flavor Bible" but I suppose its more of a reference book than a time killer.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: AmandaK on June 01, 2015, 03:13:16 PM
Kind of funny (to me anyway) that you rule out the two books that I would have suggested to you.  I just got both of them in the mail from Amazon, and started reading Modern Homebrew Recipes this weekend.

Did you get the Modern Homebrew Recipes from the pre-sale or from Amazon? I have had poor luck with the pre-sale shipping window in the past and didn't want to have it delivered after NHC.

Do you have Buhner's "Sacred and healing Herbal Beers"? I say that because its a better read than most brewing books. I think you might like "The Flavor Bible" but I suppose its more of a reference book than a time killer.

I read the Sacred and Healing beers preview on Amazon and it seemed a bit "out-there" for my tastes. I like history and techincal books, but that one seemed a bit strange in the first few pages. Did it get better?

I have The Flavor Bible already. Good pick!  ;)

Thank you guys - you're getting the wheels turning.  8) I started looking at At Home in the Whole Food Kitchen, but then it started talking about "superfoods"... and I can't take people very seriously when they use that word. Dang.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: S. cerevisiae on June 01, 2015, 03:17:53 PM
If you do not already own a copy, "Brewing" by Lewis and Young is the best book that I have ever read on the subject.  I am convinced that Micheal Lewis could teach organic chemistry as it applies to brewing to a rock.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: AmandaK on June 01, 2015, 03:27:34 PM
If you do not already own a copy, "Brewing" by Lewis and Young is the best book that I have ever read on the subject.  I am convinced that Micheal Lewis could teach organic chemistry as it applies to brewing to a rock.

Interesting. I'll have to take a look at that, Mark. Thanks!
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: toby on June 01, 2015, 03:35:02 PM
Did you get the Modern Homebrew Recipes from the pre-sale or from Amazon? I have had poor luck with the pre-sale shipping window in the past and didn't want to have it delivered after NHC.
I always wind up ordering from Amazon specifically because of shipping.  The AHA member pricing deal gets cancelled out by their shipping cost (and turnaround time), so Amazon still winds up being cheaper (and faster with Prime).  I ordered mine Thursday night, and received it Sunday.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: reverseapachemaster on June 01, 2015, 03:37:06 PM
I read the Sacred and Healing beers preview on Amazon and it seemed a bit "out-there" for my tastes. I like history and techincal books, but that one seemed a bit strange in the first few pages. Did it get better?

The whole book is like that. It's less of a brewing text in the conventional sense and more about encouraging people to be inspired by brewing cultures outside of the modern, industrialized brewing practices. It's like Joy of Homebrewing but for brewing with weird ingredients and unusual fermentation practices.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: pete b on June 01, 2015, 03:39:23 PM

Do you have Buhner's "Sacred and healing Herbal Beers"? I say that because its a better read than most brewing books. I think you might like "The Flavor Bible" but I suppose its more of a reference book than a time killer.

I read the Sacred and Healing beers preview on Amazon and it seemed a bit "out-there" for my tastes. I like history and techincal books, but that one seemed a bit strange in the first few pages. Did it get better?

I have The Flavor Bible already. Good pick!  ;)


It is a bit "out there" in places, especially the introduction as I recall, but in a good way. That being said there is a lot of good information about hundreds of plants and a lot of interesting history about beer, medicine, and indigenous cultures. Its not woo-woo. Its also just a good read.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: AmandaK on June 01, 2015, 03:41:02 PM
Did you get the Modern Homebrew Recipes from the pre-sale or from Amazon? I have had poor luck with the pre-sale shipping window in the past and didn't want to have it delivered after NHC.
I always wind up ordering from Amazon specifically because of shipping.  The AHA member pricing deal gets cancelled out by their shipping cost (and turnaround time), so Amazon still winds up being cheaper (and faster with Prime).  I ordered mine Thursday night, and received it Sunday.
Well crap. I'll just order that from Amazon. I just talked with them on Thursday about the shipping time and concluded that I would just buy it at NHC. Now I see that 6/3 would be my delivery date.

Don't stop the suggestions from coming though! I might "need" another book.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: pete b on June 01, 2015, 03:42:55 PM
I read the Sacred and Healing beers preview on Amazon and it seemed a bit "out-there" for my tastes. I like history and techincal books, but that one seemed a bit strange in the first few pages. Did it get better?

The whole book is like that. It's less of a brewing text in the conventional sense and more about encouraging people to be inspired by brewing cultures outside of the modern, industrialized brewing practices. It's like Joy of Homebrewing but for brewing with weird ingredients and unusual fermentation practices.
Yes, definitely for inspiration rather than technique. I have gotten some good ideas for ingredients I might not have thought of but I usually incorporate them in subtle ways into "normal beers" I make nettle beer every spring and also like to make a yarrow beer when its out in the summer.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: narcout on June 01, 2015, 04:26:26 PM
I already have just about every book from Brewers Publications outside of Malt, but I do not intend to buy that.

I'm about 70 pages in, and I would say it's just as informative and entertaining as the other 3 books in that series.  I've learned quite a bit already.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 01, 2015, 04:45:47 PM
So you are not a malt lover, or not a John Mallett fan?

The book is fine, I enjoyed it and learned a bunch.

Got the new Gordon book through the AHA and am part way through it, will read more on the plane.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: majorvices on June 01, 2015, 08:52:01 PM
Yes, the malt book was a good read. Not sure why you would want to skip it. Unless you don't use malt? ;)
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: AmandaK on June 01, 2015, 09:20:30 PM
Most reviews indicated it was not for a homebrewer, but for a craft brewer. Many reviews also noted errors in equations. Which, as an engineer, would drive me batty. I mean, when you read a book with equations in it you're supposed to read the equations first and then the text (if the text at all), right?

If you guys are telling me it's worthwhile, I may just complete the elements series finally.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: jeffy on June 01, 2015, 09:39:12 PM
My wife found a couple of Man From UNCLE novels at the thrift store.  These are the perfect sized books to stave off in-flight boredom.  I can't wait to see what Yllya Kuryakin and Napoleon Solo are up against in the Vampire Affair.

I just read the Last American Vampire by the same author as Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Slayer.  It's not quite as good, but the history is solid.

Oh, do the books have to be about beer or food?



Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 01, 2015, 10:01:01 PM
Most reviews indicated it was not for a homebrewer, but for a craft brewer. Many reviews also noted errors in equations. Which, as an engineer, would drive me batty. I mean, when you read a book with equations in it you're supposed to read the equations first and then the text (if the text at all), right?

If you guys are telling me it's worthwhile, I may just complete the elements series finally.

There were no Homebrew recipes, but how does that not make it of interest for homebrewers?

Any idea as to what equations were off, I may have questioned one or so. Off to Amazon to read some reviews.

Edit - the ones that said there were no Homebrew recipes remind of those complaining that Brewing Better Beer had no extract recipes.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: AmandaK on June 01, 2015, 11:02:39 PM
Haha Jeff. I'll have to add it to my wish list for Alaska plane ride reading then!

I picked up Modern Homebrew Recipes and a Michael Pollan book, Omnivore's Dilemma.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 02, 2015, 12:18:02 AM
Haha Jeff. I'll have to add it to my wish list for Alaska plane ride reading then!

I picked up Modern Homebrew Recipes and a Michael Pollan book, Omnivore's Dilemma.

Mr Mallett is someone I always like to talk to a little at an event. Larry Bell says he is the smartest guy he knows. I have heard that he consulted a fair amount with Sierra Nevada on the NC brewery. It was his first book, so the learning curve was there. How many authors have no errata page these days?
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 02, 2015, 12:21:26 AM
Haha Jeff. I'll have to add it to my wish list for Alaska plane ride reading then!

I picked up Modern Homebrew Recipes and a Michael Pollan book, Omnivore's Dilemma.

Mr Mallett is someone I always like to talk to a little at an event. Larry Bell says he is the smartest guy he knows. I have heard that he consulted a fair amount with Sierra Nevada on the NC brewery. It was his first book, so the learning curve was there. How many authors have no errata page these days?

Edit - then again Mitch Steele got a lot of flack from homebrewers due to the recipes in the IPA book being so general that they could be used by homebrewers and commercial. One had to do some conversions, but if you know what you are doing - excellent beer results.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: a10t2 on June 02, 2015, 01:02:14 AM
Michael Pollan book, Omnivore's Dilemma.

You'll love it, I promise.

In that vein, have you read Ambitious Brew by Maureen Ogle? Not a brewing book per se but really entertaining and thought-provoking.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: AmandaK on June 02, 2015, 02:01:20 AM
Michael Pollan book, Omnivore's Dilemma.

You'll love it, I promise.

In that vein, have you read Ambitious Brew by Maureen Ogle? Not a brewing book per se but really entertaining and thought-provoking.
I'm very much enjoying the beginning Kindle preview I got for buying it.

I have read some of Maureen's writings, and enjoyed them, but have not read Ambitious Brew yet. That is right up my alley. Very good suggestion.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: pete b on June 02, 2015, 11:24:59 AM
Funny, I almost mentioned Michael Pollan's books. Omnivore' s dilemma very much influenced how I eat, cook, and source my food.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: erockrph on June 03, 2015, 06:11:21 PM
You probably have read it already, but Tasting Beer by Randy Mosher should be a required read for any home brewer or craft beer fan.
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: macbrews on June 03, 2015, 08:12:17 PM
With the exception of the first 2 chapters, Modern Homebrew Recipes is going to be more of a reference book than a cover to cover reader.  I received mine last weekend (preordered with Amazon).  I've gotten through part of it and it appears it is going to be an excellent resource (there may have a lot of similar beers in the up-coming comps).

My favorite book that has been recently published is the American Sour Beers by Michael Tonsmiere.  You may already have it. It is well written and very informative.  Easily the best of the recent Brewer Publication books of late.  If you don't already have it I highly recommend.

Mac
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: AmandaK on June 03, 2015, 08:32:42 PM
Oh yeah - I have both of those. Picked up Tasting Beer when I was studying for the BJCP exam and got American Sour Beers last year. I do have to agree, American Sour Beers is one of the best books in the BP library. Although I am a little biased - the only beers I can seem to advance to NHC Finals are my funky beers!  ;)
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: udubdawg on June 19, 2015, 05:52:13 PM

I already have just about every book from Brewers Publications outside of Malt, but I do not intend to buy that.

I need to know if this stance changed after the man himself gave you a ride to the airport?!?   ;D
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: AmandaK on June 19, 2015, 06:45:14 PM

I already have just about every book from Brewers Publications outside of Malt, but I do not intend to buy that.

I need to know if this stance changed after the man himself gave you a ride to the airport?!?   ;D
It changed when Jeff (and others) gave the recommendation. It doubly changed when I got to talk to John himself. ;)
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 19, 2015, 06:55:45 PM

I already have just about every book from Brewers Publications outside of Malt, but I do not intend to buy that.

I need to know if this stance changed after the man himself gave you a ride to the airport?!?   ;D
It changed when Jeff (and others) gave the recommendation. It doubly changed when I got to talk to John himself. ;)

A ride from Mr. Mallett! He is really interesting to talk to, approachable, and Larry Bell calls him the smartest guy he knows. Now you probably wish the airport was farther, no?
Title: Re: Good NHC Plane Book?
Post by: AmandaK on June 19, 2015, 07:09:08 PM

I already have just about every book from Brewers Publications outside of Malt, but I do not intend to buy that.

I need to know if this stance changed after the man himself gave you a ride to the airport?!?   ;D
It changed when Jeff (and others) gave the recommendation. It doubly changed when I got to talk to John himself. ;)

A ride from Mr. Mallett! He is really interesting to talk to, approachable, and Larry Bell calls him the smartest guy he knows. Now you probably wish the airport was farther, no?
I actually (almost) wish I hadn't drank so much mead the night before so I could have asked more intelligent questions. We did talk about oxidation signs in lighter malt though.