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Title: When building water...
Post by: greg_rosace on June 01, 2010, 03:25:02 PM
Can I use my specific style built RO water for both the mash and sparge?
I think Im going to try Moshers ideal Pale ale water recipe for my IPA?
Title: Re: When building water...
Post by: denny on June 01, 2010, 03:26:18 PM
I just adjust water for the mash and use "plain" water for the sparge.
Title: Re: When building water...
Post by: majorvices on June 01, 2010, 03:32:13 PM
I guess it depends. For IPA my water is pretty much ready to go as is so I am not building my water at all, only adding a little sulfate to the mash. But for my pale beers such as kolsch I adjust the minierals in the mash but blend RO water with my tap water at a 4:1 ratio, RO to tap. In my case I am using the minerals mostly to adjust pH (and for a little mineral character as well) but I would not use my straight tap water to sparge my kolsch because I want all the water to be soft. Won't matter as much with an IPA.
Title: Re: When building water...
Post by: greg_rosace on June 01, 2010, 03:33:44 PM
My water is not doing what I want in my finished beers.
Especially in the when I wnat to accentuate malt and bitterness ratios.
I'm afraid if I use my tap water to sparge.. which is generally 50% of my volume. I still may not get those reults I want to achieve?
Title: Re: When building water...
Post by: richardt on June 01, 2010, 05:06:06 PM
Greg,

Check out the water profile for Tampa.  You may need to go online or call up your local water company.
A bunch of water profiles are posted on "post your water report."
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1887.0 (http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=1887.0)

Then build your water profile accordingly.  I suspect you have very alkaline water and a poor Cl:SO4 ratio that leans very bitter.

You'll likely end up using a significant % (50% or more) of RO water and Calcium Chloride salts (with smaller amounts of the others) to make your liquor.
Title: Re: When building water...
Post by: greg_rosace on June 01, 2010, 07:34:02 PM
Thanks
Too bad Tampa water isnt posted. I'll be sure to do so when I get my results back.
I'm shiping out my water to Wards tomorrow.
Since I have all of my salts now, I might s well wait for the results and adjust my tap water.
I was thinking it would be easier to build my water from scratch, but I really dont want the hassel of hauling water around town.
We'll see.
Im really looking forward to fixin' my water and make better beer!
Title: Re: When building water...
Post by: richardt on June 01, 2010, 09:00:43 PM
Unfortunately, most "Water Quality Reports" are worthless from a homebrewer's standpoint, as evidenced by Tampa's water quality report
http://www.tampagov.net/dept_Water/files/Annual_Report_and_CCR/2009_water_quality_report.pdf (http://www.tampagov.net/dept_Water/files/Annual_Report_and_CCR/2009_water_quality_report.pdf)
Specific questions about Tampa‚Äôs drinking water may be referred to Tampa Water Quality Assurance Officer or Water Quality Laboratory Supervisor at (813) 231- 5253 or (813) 231-5233.  Tell them you're more interested in the secondary standards (or Aesthetic Standards) like Calcium, Magnesium, Sodium, Chloride, Sulfate, bicarbonate, alkalinity, pH.

Also, check out your local homebrew club http://www.tampabaybeers.org/ (http://www.tampabaybeers.org/).  They're a pretty good bunch of brewers--you'd do well to hang out with them.  Welcome to the hobby/obsession!