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Title: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: twopumpsandimsorry on August 06, 2015, 01:46:05 PM
this may have already been done but I was thinking last night, it seems as if an hand full of great beers get most of the attention from traders and whale hunters, but I think there are quite a few undiscovered gem out there and are getting ignored. One of my favorites is Schells noble star series. Ive been at bottle shares and it went toe to toe with some Russian river sours and Cascade brewing sours. I think most of the noble star series beers are very well done and underrated simply because they come from a brewery that make some s***ty beers.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: erockrph on August 06, 2015, 03:32:53 PM
Along the same lines of being overlooked because they are made by a Macro, the beers I've tried from Leinenkugel's Big Eddy series have all been great. The Wee Heavy in particular is phenomenal.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: HoosierBrew on August 06, 2015, 03:40:30 PM
I'd add a few of the Sam Adams 'Batch One' series beers. Shows you what they can do when they choose to.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: rabeb25 on August 06, 2015, 05:59:09 PM
this may have already been done but I was thinking last night, it seems as if an hand full of great beers get most of the attention from traders and whale hunters, but I think there are quite a few undiscovered gem out there and are getting ignored. One of my favorites is Schells noble star series. Ive been at bottle shares and it went toe to toe with some Russian river sours and Cascade brewing sours. I think most of the noble star series beers are very well done and underrated simply because they come from a brewery that make some s***ty beers.

s***ty beers? Says whom?
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: reverseapachemaster on August 07, 2015, 04:55:07 AM
Real Ale in Blanco, Texas (outside of Austin) has some real gems that get overlooked even in the local market. Their base beers were solid and have gone through a revision recently with updated recipes (like Stone). Their real hits are their mysterium vernum series which are barrel aged (some sour, some brett, some clean) versions of some of their regular and seasonal lineup. All really great. Their barleywine, Sisyphus, is superb and holds up really well to aging.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: chumley on August 09, 2015, 11:03:12 PM
I really like a lot of Leinenkugel beers, even the every day ones like Creamy Dark. The doppelbock is smoooooth.

I would like to know why only their sh***est beers, like summer shandy, berry weiss, and sunset wheat, make it to Montana? >:(
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: jtoots on August 10, 2015, 02:59:21 PM
I really like a lot of Leinenkugel beers, even the every day ones like Creamy Dark. The doppelbock is smoooooth.

I would like to know why only their sh***est beers, like summer shandy, berry weiss, and sunset wheat, make it to Montana? >:(
+1!!!
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: pete b on August 10, 2015, 03:17:53 PM
I guess I'll buck the trend and go with a brewery that is hidden by being small as opposed to the hidden-in-plain-sight ones mentioned so far. If you ever get a chance try something by Element Brewing Co. in Miller's Falls Ma. I believe it is available throughout Mass. and parts of Vermont. My favorites that are not seasonal are Red Giant and Dark Element. Their beers tend to not fall into strict style categories and seem to me to be made with very high quality ingredients. Really interesting but balanced malt flavors.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: erockrph on August 10, 2015, 04:52:45 PM
I guess I'll buck the trend and go with a brewery that is hidden by being small as opposed to the hidden-in-plain-sight ones mentioned so far. If you ever get a chance try something by Element Brewing Co. in Miller's Falls Ma. I believe it is available throughout Mass. and parts of Vermont. My favorites that are not seasonal are Red Giant and Dark Element. Their beers tend to not fall into strict style categories and seem to me to be made with very high quality ingredients. Really interesting but balanced malt flavors.
Thanks for the tip, Pete. I've seen their beers around, but haven't tried them out yet. I'll have to check them out soon.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: pete b on August 10, 2015, 08:51:30 PM
I guess I'll buck the trend and go with a brewery that is hidden by being small as opposed to the hidden-in-plain-sight ones mentioned so far. If you ever get a chance try something by Element Brewing Co. in Miller's Falls Ma. I believe it is available throughout Mass. and parts of Vermont. My favorites that are not seasonal are Red Giant and Dark Element. Their beers tend to not fall into strict style categories and seem to me to be made with very high quality ingredients. Really interesting but balanced malt flavors.
Thanks for the tip, Pete. I've seen their beers around, but haven't tried them out yet. I'll have to check them out soon.
Might pick one up after work...
We actually have a 3 liter bottle that we won in a raffle for their anniversary in my cellar. We're breaking it out when we have a party to celebrate the finish of our addition. Its a 17% pilsner so I think we'll need help drinking the 3 liters.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: toby on August 11, 2015, 01:59:40 PM
Parish Brewing Ghost in the Machine, although it's got some underground cred.  I've had traders in California send me messages about it.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: twopumpsandimsorry on August 11, 2015, 04:13:45 PM
this may have already been done but I was thinking last night, it seems as if an hand full of great beers get most of the attention from traders and whale hunters, but I think there are quite a few undiscovered gem out there and are getting ignored. One of my favorites is Schells noble star series. Ive been at bottle shares and it went toe to toe with some Russian river sours and Cascade brewing sours. I think most of the noble star series beers are very well done and underrated simply because they come from a brewery that make some s***ty beers.

I will say as a boy from Minnesota grain belt will always have a spot in my fridge.
s***ty beers? Says whom?
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: dmtaylor on August 11, 2015, 04:45:14 PM
A few thoughts:

I'm a sucker for Capital Autumnal Fire, which is sort of like a big malty cross between an Oktoberfest and a doppelbock.

Also I can't understand the poor reviews that Baltika 6 Baltic Porter gets on BeerAdvocate, etc.  It's a perfect 10 porter in my book, with notes of brown bread and molasses... mmm......

Anyone try a Samuel Smith Old Brewery Pale Ale lately?  If you like malty English beers, good golly, give that one a try.  Full of bread pudding and toffee-ish character.  Belhaven makes some fantastic ones as well.

And then there's always Warsteiner.  Light, dark, I don't care.  My swimming pool in heaven is filled with this stuff.

Can you tell I'm a malthead?  If you really want to find "hidden gems", you need to avoid all the hops and sours.  There's a lot great malty beers to be had out there as well.  The best beers in the world are not all Imperial IPAs and Brett fermented saisons, no sirree.

Here's another one for you..... Gordon Biersch.  Yes, the big chain.  Talk about fantastic German lagers, man...... I'll have a beer with you there anytime.

As for the other previous comments...

Overall I find that Schell's makes some pretty great beers.  The Snowstorm ones are always great.

Hard to beat a Leinie's Honey Weiss on a hot day -- seriously!  Even if most their other beers are crap.  Big Eddy series, sure, I'll age some and drink it after a few years as it often improves.

Interesting how a lot of these are not so much "hidden gems" as they are just plain blown off.  Like Neil Diamond or Karen Carpenter.  You'll always claim to your friends that you think they suck, but when no one else is around you're singing it loudly in your shower.

Lakefront Riverwest Steinbier, anyone?  Another flagship that everyone in Wisconsin drinks all the time, but people not from this area probably never heard of.  Get some.  Drink it.  Savor it.  It really is *that* good.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: udubdawg on August 11, 2015, 05:07:50 PM
A few thoughts:

I'm a sucker for Capital Autumnal Fire, which is sort of like a big malty cross between an Oktoberfest and a doppelbock.

Here's another one for you..... Gordon Biersch.  Yes, the big chain.  Talk about fantastic German lagers, man...... I'll have a beer with you there anytime.


Love me some Autumnal Fire.  The blonde doppelbock I had from them was tasty too.

Had a very good Kolsch in a GB sampler not long ago.  Still trying to find bottles of that Golden Export of theirs I had on tap out in the bay area a few years back. 

...ever had Metropolitan's lagers?  I hear pretty good things; thinking of making a stop next time I'm in Chicago.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: toby on August 11, 2015, 05:25:04 PM
Here's another one for you..... Gordon Biersch.  Yes, the big chain.  Talk about fantastic German lagers, man...... I'll have a beer with you there anytime.
I heart the bejeezus out of their Maerzen.  Unfortunately haven't had a chance to hit up the one in NOLA since their new brewer took over.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: kmccaf on August 13, 2015, 12:44:14 AM
A few thoughts:

I'm a sucker for Capital Autumnal Fire, which is sort of like a big malty cross between an Oktoberfest and a doppelbock.

Here's another one for you..... Gordon Biersch.  Yes, the big chain.  Talk about fantastic German lagers, man...... I'll have a beer with you there anytime.


Love me some Autumnal Fire.  The blonde doppelbock I had from them was tasty too.

Had a very good Kolsch in a GB sampler not long ago.  Still trying to find bottles of that Golden Export of theirs I had on tap out in the bay area a few years back. 

...ever had Metropolitan's lagers?  I hear pretty good things; thinking of making a stop next time I'm in Chicago.
Love Capital's lagers. All of them. Supper Club and the Amber are frequent purchases. Metropolitan is indeed a great brewery. I recommend the Dopplebock and Alt.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: twopumpsandimsorry on August 17, 2015, 04:26:49 PM
Metropolitan is should also be on my list, Pipeworks and revolution get all of the shine in this area but for what Metropolitan does they do a superb job. More to beer then just hops and throwing the produce isle at the fermenter.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: dilluh98 on September 19, 2015, 12:39:13 AM
this may have already been done but I was thinking last night, it seems as if an hand full of great beers get most of the attention from traders and whale hunters, but I think there are quite a few undiscovered gem out there and are getting ignored. One of my favorites is Schells noble star series. Ive been at bottle shares and it went toe to toe with some Russian river sours and Cascade brewing sours. I think most of the noble star series beers are very well done and underrated simply because they come from a brewery that make some s***ty beers.

I went to college nearby the Schells brewery. My beer palate back then was to mostly put alcohol in my body so I don't remember much of the tours other than they quickly get you to the tasting room and let you go to town on everything on tap for a half hour. Last time I visited the homeland (MN) I got some Schells and was really disappointed with their standard offerings. Definitely going to have to hit up some of their seasonal stuff. For being the second oldest brewery in the US you would think they have to do some things right. =]
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: S. cerevisiae on September 24, 2015, 04:05:26 AM
Schell's yeast strain is derived from the Christian Schmidt Strain.  It is sold as Wyeast 2035 (one of the original Wyeast lager strains).   Wyeast 2035 (originally called "New Ulm Lager") and its parent strain Wyeast 2272 (Christian Schmidt) are both relics from the time before West Coast Lager (rice as the adjunct) displaced East Coast Lager (corn as the adjunct) in the United States.  Traditional East Coast-style lager is a more flavor positive beer than West Coast-style lager.  In fact, the beer is every bit as enjoyable as all malt lager.  One of the reasons why Yuengling Traditional Lager tastes better than Budweiser is because Yuengling Traditional Lager is East Coast-style lager.  Budweiser is West Coast-style lager.  The best part is that Yuengling Traditional Lager is cheaper than Budweiser.  Now, that's what I call a hidden gem.

A few shots from the Yuengling Brewery

(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv356/tonestack/Brewing/MashTun_zps3aae67f3.jpg)

(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv356/tonestack/Brewing/CerealCooker_zpsa2a59483.jpg)

(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv356/tonestack/Brewing/BrewKettle_zps1b75bf6f.jpg)
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: dilluh98 on September 24, 2015, 11:36:54 AM
Funny, I did my undergrad a few miles away from the second oldest brewery in the US and then did my graduate work relatively close to the oldest brewery in the US. You are right Mark, Yuengling is a highly drinkable lager that blows any BMC out of the water at the same price point. Had my first one in over five years while at a wedding on the eastern shore over the summer. Damn was it tasty and brought back a lot of memories of nights out with friends in DC during grad school. Thanks for posting those pictures.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: reverseapachemaster on September 24, 2015, 03:09:26 PM
Here's another one for you..... Gordon Biersch.  Yes, the big chain.  Talk about fantastic German lagers, man...... I'll have a beer with you there anytime.

I like several of their beers. My wife and I used to hit their brewpub here on a regular basis although it's a bit of a haul from our house. The service started to go downhill and the menu changed to take away all our favorites in favor of a more generic menu. I rarely open the emails I get from them but when I do I always see them talking about brewing IPAs and other beers clearly deviating away from their focus on German beers (plus the Czech pilsner). I might have to get a growler of winterbrau next time I'm in the area.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: JJeffers09 on October 20, 2015, 08:21:30 PM
I have to say Smoky Mountain Brewery, I get as much as my wife will let me take out of there every time we go to Gatlinburg, TN.  It is a good time to stop by in the afternoon, drink a few and go through the shops with the Mrs.  My personal favs are the Cherokee Red Ale and Tuckaleechee Porter.  Very solid beers.  All the years I have been stopping through Gatlinburg the brews never disappoint me.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: 1vertical on October 25, 2015, 08:53:59 PM
Get me some Fullers ESB..... 8) (i know wrong continent)
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: The Professor on October 25, 2015, 09:35:47 PM
I recently stumbled on a sixpack of Stegmaier Porter (Pennsylvania)...I was surprised to see it, since the last time I had it was more than 40 years ago.  These days it's brewed at The Lion in Wilkes Barre, PA...and it's fantastic (and a real bargain, too).  It's 'chewier' than the other famous PA porter (from Yuengling) and quite nice.
I actually prefer the old timey PA porters from these two brewers over most craft brewer porters (except perhaps for Anchor Porter...which is still a real gem).
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: HoosierBrew on October 25, 2015, 10:13:55 PM
(except perhaps for Anchor Porter...which is still a real gem).


I still love that stuff, too. Very tasty beer.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: norcaljp on October 27, 2015, 12:43:08 AM
I've been really impressed by the beers from Six Rivers Brewing out of McKinleyville, CA (Northern coast).

They have a Raspberry Lambic (ish) that I really enjoy, and a 'double IPA' called Sasquatch, that is amazing. I get so much salted caramel out of it, that I have a hard time thinking of it as a DIPA, it's one of the best beers I've had. I really need to plan a trip up that way to try more of their offerings.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: Hand of Dom on May 22, 2016, 09:09:25 AM
I'm not sure if they've made it across the Atlantic, but lately I've been enjoying beers from a brewery called Magic Rock in Huddersfield (West Yorkshire).  The only one I've not been a fan of has been their IIPA, Human Cannonball, which I found a little too bitter for my taste (although it smelt amazing).
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: BrewBama on May 22, 2016, 11:50:42 PM
Woinemer Hausbrauerie. http://www.woinemer-brauerei.de/

I've spent many an evening there back when the wall came down. Great beers and great food.
Title: Re: What's your favorite hidden gem
Post by: Lazy Ant Brewing on July 16, 2016, 03:07:03 PM
I love the Brown Ales from Carson's Brewery in Evansville, Indiana.

Brown Cow

Buzzed Cow- their Brown Cow infused with coffee.

Vanilla Brown Coffee.

All are 5% ABV and taste fantastic in the taproom.