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Title: Books?
Post by: dean on June 08, 2010, 10:08:37 am
I've got How To Brew, Brewing Classic Styles and Designing Great Beers.  I like each of them but each one for different reasons.   I just ordered Radical Brewing and Brew Like a Monk... I hope I'm ready for them.  I've got the basic mechanics down so I'm looking for something else to tweek my brewing.  One question, are they life altering?   :D

Title: Re: Books?
Post by: Hokerer on June 08, 2010, 10:39:31 am
Don't have Brew Like a Monk but do have Radical Brewing and while, quite interesting, I don't know that I'd call it life altering.
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: mikeypedersen on June 08, 2010, 10:55:03 am
I would agree that Radical Brewing was quite interesting but not exactly life altering.  I did get lots of great tips about using different ingredients and adjuncts from it.  It also had quite a bit of interesting historical perspective which I also thoroughly enjoyed.

Brew Like a Monk is an awesome book.  I would say it is a must-have for anyone who enjoys or is interested in brewing belgian style beers.  Gives a ton of history and the author really did a ton of leg-work interviewing and talking to all kinds of Belgian brewers as well as American Brewers reviving the style.

Wild Brews is another book in that series that really is one of the books that I have referenced the most as it is some of the only literature on making and fermenting wild/sour ales.
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: dbeechum on June 08, 2010, 11:34:42 am
I guess it depends on your pov. I thought BLAM was a really good book for understanding the whole Trappist mystique.

Radical though I thought was awesome for breaking the sort of procrustean mindset we can get into as homebrewers with all this style stuff flying around us.
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: dean on June 08, 2010, 02:20:29 pm
Interesting comments.  I was looking at Wild Brews too but thought I'd wait on it for now. 

Drew, I went looking for your book and was going to get that but it sounded like another nuts and bolts book along with recipes, just not what I think I'm looking for now.  Not saying it isn't good mind you, just not the type I want.

What about Farmhouse Ales?
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: dbeechum on June 08, 2010, 02:23:15 pm
Yeah, it is a nuts and bolts book, but only as nuts and bolts as I could do things. :)

And yeah, crazy number of recipes in there: ~100.
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: dean on June 08, 2010, 02:28:50 pm
Well if you kept it really simple (not saying you're simple either..  :D ) it might be a damn good book for beginners then especially having over a hundred recipes!   :o   8)

Title: Re: Books?
Post by: Hokerer on June 08, 2010, 07:42:42 pm
Don't have Brew Like a Monk but do have Radical Brewing and while, quite interesting, I don't know that I'd call it life altering.

Radical though I thought was awesome for breaking the sort of procrustean mindset we can get into as homebrewers with all this style stuff flying around us.

My bad!  Turns out the one I have isn't Radical Brewing but rather Extreme Brewing - the one by the Dogfish dude.
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: richardt on June 08, 2010, 08:00:56 pm
The Everything Homebrewing Book is a GREAT book, IMO. It is just chock full of pearls of wisdom on nearly every page.  It's not just for beginners (although it is perfectly written for them in language that is easy to follow and understand).  I'd encourage those who have read it before (or those who think they know a lot about homebrewing) to just pick it up again and re-read it.  I just looked through it again--it is just well thought out and contains so many great recipes from accomplished homebrewers.  It would take me 10 years of my life to ever distill and compile all this resourceful info in such an approachable manner.  Thanks, Drew!  A+ for a job well done. 
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: dean on June 09, 2010, 08:03:17 am
Thanks richardt, I like reading reviews on books and you just gave me reason to buy a copy.  Hey Drew, do you have any copies on-hand?  I'd be interested in buying one if you put your autograph on it.   ;D   Seriously, pm me if you have copies.    
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 09, 2010, 10:03:10 am
"New Brewing Lager Beer" by Greg Noonan is one the more advanced homebrewer should have.
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: denny on June 09, 2010, 10:06:17 am
Ya know, there's a lot of interesting info in that book, but I've never felt it was real relevant to a homebrewer..at least not THIS homebrewer!
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 09, 2010, 10:13:43 am
I picked it back up off the shelf about a year ago and found some very good stuff there.

More recently I picked up Designing Great Beers and had new found appreciation for it.

YMMV!
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: richardt on June 09, 2010, 11:19:21 am
"New Brewing Lager Beer" by Greg Noonan is one the more advanced homebrewer should have.
Ya know, there's a lot of interesting info in that book, but I've never felt it was real relevant to a homebrewer..at least not THIS homebrewer!

I just got done reading "New Brewing Lager Beer" by Greg Noonan.  Obviously, he was a very smart man who knew what he was doing.  IMO, the writing style is just too information rich and the pearls are buried within.  For example, the tip he gives to add highly roasted malts like Carafa at the end of mashing or during the sparge (to reduce the extraction of bitterness/astringency) is just one small sentence buried within a paragraph at the bottom of a page.  I dont' have the book here at the office, but it is like page 152 or page 183 or something like that.  The whole book is like that.  I had to be amped up on 3 cups of coffee just to keep the focus up with that book.  It's graduate level material, IMO.  Other than the water treatement and a bunch of info on decoction (which I'm too lazy to do), I didn't find it much use for my homebrewing.  I'll look at it again in a year--maybe I'll get something more out of it then when I have a bit more experience under my belt.

Not the case with Drew's book.  B&N, Books-a-Million, Amazon online, etc. all carry it (as should you LHBS).  IMO, you should have it, just like you should have JP's "How to Brew."
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: dbeechum on June 09, 2010, 11:55:11 am
IMO, you should have it, just like you should have JP's "How to Brew."

I love you, man! (and you can have all my Bud Light) :)
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: dean on June 09, 2010, 06:19:55 pm
IMO, you should have it, just like you should have JP's "How to Brew."

I love you, man! (and you can have all my Bud Light) :)

Let's not get all squishy now...  ::)  :D

Title: Re: Books?
Post by: dean on June 30, 2010, 11:05:43 am
Nice book Drew!  I haven't had a chance to read a lot of it yet but perusing through it looks and reads nicely, a refreshing change even.  In fact some people currently asking Q's could benefit from this book. 

How timely for the "Black Perle".  ARRrrrrr!    ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: denny on June 30, 2010, 11:14:18 am
Dean, check out the Nick Danger porter recipe!
Title: Best Book for American Styles
Post by: kramerog on June 30, 2010, 11:27:57 am
What is the Best Book for doing American ale styles?  The books I have are either dated or directed to English styles.
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: dbeechum on June 30, 2010, 11:38:32 am
Nice book Drew!

Thanks Dean! Glad the book made it to you intact and that content seems to have gotten better in the shipping! :)
Title: Re: Best Book for American Styles
Post by: denny on June 30, 2010, 11:42:24 am
What is the Best Book for doing American ale styles?  The books I have are either dated or directed to English styles.

Kinda hard to say?  Do you want just a recipe book?  What have you already got?
Title: Re: Best Book for American Styles
Post by: dean on June 30, 2010, 02:23:33 pm
What is the Best Book for doing American ale styles?  The books I have are either dated or directed to English styles.

Kinda hard to say?  Do you want just a recipe book?  What have you already got?

I don't know of any one book that emphasizes strictly American styles, but Drew's book has more than most and some are compilations of well known brews.  One in particular that I like and it can be difficult to find at times is a clone(?) recipe for Old Rasputin.

Seriously, Drew you did a Great Job!  I'm tearing through it between mowing the yard and readying for tomorrows brew session.  IMO... this book should be read as a primer to JP's book.  The way you wrote it, a lot of the mystery involved with water chemistry is removed so anyone can understand it more thoroughly... short and sweet... to the point.  I can read it without my eye's glassing over or becoming lethargic and thats always Good.  There are ingredients mentioned in this book that you will only read in wine making books, yet they can be used in brewing beer... good to know also. 

I'm glad I bought it, wish you had written it sooner so that I would have bought it first.  Two Thumbs Up!   :)
Title: Re: Best Book for American Styles
Post by: kramerog on July 01, 2010, 07:30:34 am
What is the Best Book for doing American ale styles?  The books I have are either dated or directed to English styles.

Kinda hard to say?  Do you want just a recipe book?  What have you already got?

I have the two JP books (one co-written with Jamil Z) and Designing Great Beers.  Among the dated books I have are two Papazian ones and a Miller one.  I would be happy to have something with an in depthof the various American ale styles with some recipes.  I focused more on British styles in the past, but since I have a Cascade hops growing in the backyard I thought I should do some American ones.  I think I would also like to use some green hops.
Title: Re: Best Book for American Styles
Post by: maxieboy on July 01, 2010, 08:26:02 am
 One in particular that I like and it can be difficult to find at times is a clone(?) recipe for Old Rasputin.

Beer Captured (a recipe book) has this recipe. Comes out fantastic! I've had excellent results using recipes from that book. I also will be trying Bill Pierce's( of HBD fame) clone of Old Rasputin. Sounds tasty just reading it! Happy brewing...
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: denny on July 01, 2010, 09:05:02 am
Bill's Rootin' Tootin' Rasputin makes a killer beer that is very close to OR.  I brewed it for my 100th batch.  Now I'm trying to decide what to do for #400.
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: majorvices on July 01, 2010, 09:20:36 am
Bill's Rootin' Tootin' Rasputin makes a killer beer that is very close to OR.  I brewed it for my 100th batch.  Now I'm trying to decide what to do for #400.
I think a Hefeweizen is in order.  8)
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: babalu87 on July 01, 2010, 09:24:52 am
Bill's Rootin' Tootin' Rasputin makes a killer beer that is very close to OR.  I brewed it for my 100th batch.  Now I'm trying to decide what to do for #400.
I think a Hefeweizen is in order.  8)

With Apricot

(or as my daughter says AppleCart)
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: denny on July 01, 2010, 09:42:53 am
REAL funny, guys!  ;)
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: bluesman on July 01, 2010, 02:26:04 pm
Bill's Rootin' Tootin' Rasputin makes a killer beer that is very close to OR.  I brewed it for my 100th batch.  Now I'm trying to decide what to do for #400.
I think a Hefeweizen is in order.  8)

I had to laugh at that one. I just remembered Denny's not a wheat beer kinda guy.
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: beerocd on July 01, 2010, 04:17:02 pm
Why isn't Drew's book the AHA membership "prize"? Next year maybe?
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: denny on July 01, 2010, 04:27:01 pm
Maybe because it wasn't published by Brewer's Publications, the BA/AHA publishing division?
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: majorvices on July 01, 2010, 04:51:40 pm
Big mistake.  :P Seriously, I didn't know Drew had a book. Cool beans. My estimation of him just went up a notch.
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: beerocd on July 01, 2010, 07:34:08 pm
Too many rules! Stout has to be black, Hefe must have wheat, Drew's book must be published by AHA... where will it end!  :P
Title: Re: Books?
Post by: dbeechum on July 02, 2010, 11:24:43 am
Thanks for the good words about the book, guys. I had fun writing it (even though I never slept while doing it)  I'm working with the BP trying to find a slot for a new book, but they're super busy cause Kristi keeps roping in some excellent ideas.