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Title: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: rcemech on November 03, 2015, 12:31:24 pm
Hi all! I'm trying to help out my buddy who owns a homebrew shop. He wants to carry liquid yeasts and he'd like to know what yeasts to make sure he has on hand. So if you would, just jot down what your favorite liquid yeasts are that you use most frequently. Separate into ales and lagers please.

For example...

My most frequently used ale yeasts are...

1. 2565
2. 1007
3. 1056
4. 3068
5. 1084
6. 1450
7. 3711
8. 1388
9. 3787

Lager I don't do as many, but they'd be...

1. 2124
2. 830

Thanks in advance. Cheers!

Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: HoosierBrew on November 03, 2015, 12:47:01 pm
That's a pretty good list. I'd add :    Ale -  1214, 1762, 3944, 3522          Lager - 833
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: erockrph on November 03, 2015, 12:52:33 pm
I usually use dry yeast, so my list is pretty short.

Ale:
1968/WLP002
3711
3864 (Seasonal)
WLP013
1762

Lager:
2633
2278
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: hopfenundmalz on November 03, 2015, 01:01:17 pm
Lagers 830, 833, 835 Lager X (seasonal)

Ales I use a lot of different ones. 002 Essex (seasonal), 1469, 051, 1728 and so on. 3787 if I am doing a Belgian.
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: blatz on November 03, 2015, 01:04:44 pm
i only use about a half dozen strains, 2 most frequently (001/830).  if he was really looking to focus on always keeping strains on hand to keep customers happy, i'd cull your list to the following :

ale:

001/1056
002/1968
007/1098
029/2565*

lager:
830/2124
833/2308*
800/2001
810/2112 (hybrid)

*not necessarily same strain...

i think those are the most commonly used strains and if he kept them in house and monitored his inventory to always keep them in stock, he'd keep the masses happy. prob need to add at least 2 belgians to the list, but i don't brew them often and couldn't tell you which ones to go for.

I'd order in some other strains like Denny's 50, Irish Ale, Alt, Oktoberfest Blend, scottish ale etc on occasion or special order - maybe to fill out a minimum order and see how they sell and perhaps adjust the list as he becomes more familiar with local demand.   



Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: hopfenundmalz on November 03, 2015, 01:09:31 pm
Rcemech, has he considered contacting the yeast labs to see what they recommend, and what their best selling yeasts are?
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: rcemech on November 03, 2015, 01:21:24 pm
Rcemech, has he considered contacting the yeast labs to see what they recommend, and what their best selling yeasts are?

I would hope so, but the shops purchase yeasts from the manufacturer and that doesn't necessarily directly correlate to what the homebrewers are using most frequently. He was asking around though so I thought I'd help him out.
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: Biran on November 03, 2015, 01:55:11 pm
Ale:
WLP001
WLP002
WLP007

I have not made a lager yet.
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: beersk on November 03, 2015, 02:16:07 pm
In general I really like:

Ales:
1056
1272
1450
3068
3522

Lagers:
2124
2206
833
838

There's still a lot of lager strains I'm wanting to try. Since I get a pack and use it for multiple generations before starting on a new strain, I don't get a chance to try a whole bunch in a year's time.
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: S. cerevisiae on November 03, 2015, 02:34:15 pm
ale:

001/1056
002/1968
007/1098
029/2565*

lager:
830/2124
833/2308*
800/2001
810/2112 (hybrid)

*not necessarily same strain...

+1

Except for WLP029/2565, which I consider to be a specialist strain.  That list is pretty much on the money.   The only reason why I do not consider 2112 to not be a specialist strain is because it is the lager strain for people who do not have the ability to ferment in the fifties.  Wyeast 2112 is actually not a hybrid or even traditional steam strain.  Anchor acquired the strain used to ferment Anchor Steam from Wallerstein Laboratories in the mid-seventies.   I covered a much older San Francisco culture in the blog entry that I posted late last night entitled "There's Gold In Davis, California."
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: sambates on November 03, 2015, 03:46:05 pm
I have some pretty similar favorites, but these are my most common:

Ale:
WLP007 Dry English
WLP001 California ale
WLP002 English Ale
Wy1469 West Yorkshire
Wy1007 German Ale
WLP530 Abbey Ale
Wy3522 Belgian Ardennes
Wy3711 French Saison
WLP565 Saison I
WLP566 Saison II

Lager:
WLP833 Bock
Wy2206 Bavarian Lager
Wy2124 Bohemian Lager

Bacteria/Brett:
Wy3278 Lambic Blend
Wy3763 Roselare
WLP650 Brett Brux
WLP665 Flemish Blend
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: 69franx on November 03, 2015, 04:19:24 pm
Nothing new to add but my ales for the last 2.5 years have all been done with :
001, 090, 1450 when using liquid
My lagers have been with
800, 830, 833, and a couple fest beers with 820 (skip this one)
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: RPIScotty on November 03, 2015, 05:53:46 pm
I typically only use liquid for Belgian Ales so:

3522, 3787, 1214 and 1762


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Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: bengelbrau on November 03, 2015, 07:31:47 pm
I do mostly lagers, so 830, 833, and 838 are my go to yeast. For ales, I would add 1728 for Scottish.
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: thirsty on November 03, 2015, 09:46:02 pm
British beer - 1028
American beer - 1056
German beer - 1007, 2308
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: klickitat jim on November 03, 2015, 10:49:52 pm
These I use routinely
1056 Am
1728 Scott
2308 Munich
5526 Brett L
5335 Lacto
3724 Belgian Saison

On occasion
1084 Irish
3763 Roselare

Recently
1275 Thames Valley (jury still out, Im looking for a favorite English)

Coming up soon
2352 Munich II
2278 Czech

I thought I was pretty much a boring brewer till I actually listed them out. Yikes!
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: beersk on November 04, 2015, 06:50:40 am


I thought I was pretty much a boring brewer till I actually listed them out. Yikes!

Ha, yeah, after listing mine out, I actually realized I am a boring brewer. Pretty much just lagers with a few strains and a couple ale strains mixed in here and there.
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: reverseapachemaster on November 04, 2015, 08:58:40 am
Reading through this thread I realized how few strains I have used over six years, or at least how few strains I had purchased.

As far as the business goes you can see most brewers tend to use a relatively small set of all the strains available to us from the major labs. The prospective business owner should look at how the distributor will allow purchases to be made (e.g. whether there are set blocks of yeast strains that must be bought and volume pricing) and what policies are available to facilitate orders (e.g. distributor takeback of unsold and expired yeast and ease of special ordering). Ideally the shop should sell every strain it can afford to stock but if the shop is losing money on expiring yeast and the variety isn't bringing in customers to make up for those losses then a more limited selection is more prudent.
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: dmtaylor on November 04, 2015, 09:55:13 am
Excellent thread, I'm going to use this data to get some more ideas of my own.  I use dry yeast about 50% of the time, but my favorite liquid yeasts in approximate order of use and favoritism (all good, none "bad"):

Ales
WLP001
WLP530
2565
WLP029
WLP400
WLP380
WLP550
WLP013
WLP007
1007
WLP002

Lagers
2206
2308
WLP830

Mead
4184
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: erockrph on November 04, 2015, 11:33:07 am
One other thought - find out which brand your competitor carries and carry the opposite. My closest LHBS's carry White Labs. If someone nearby carried Wyeast I'd be a frequent flier.
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: rcemech on November 05, 2015, 09:36:05 am
He's gonna carry both, but probably WYeast for ales (it's hands down the more popular brand for ales for some reason) and White labs for lager. Lager seems to be 50/50 to leaning in white labs direction.

White labs also has a new packaging system that is supposed to stay viable up to 50% for 10 - 12 months. I'm basing this on what my buddy told me, and what the white labs rep told him. I haven't looked it up. It has to do with growing the yeast in the packaging so that it never loses it's stores and it 99.9% viable when it ships. Again, don't quote me on that I haven't researched it.

My buddys (the shop owner) problem is that he has a stigma to overcome. He bought the shop from the previous owners and they didn't really cater to brewers, more for wine making. He's revamped it to offer everything. It's now my go to shop since the inventory has been changed and I can get all the malts and yeast (coming) I need now and it's a lot closer to home.
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: chumley on November 05, 2015, 10:20:50 am
For liquid yeasts

Ales

WY1968 Fullers
WY1469 Tim Taylor
WY3787 Westmalle

Lager

WLP833 Ayinger

would be my most common, although I use a lot of other liquids yeasts. 

All my American ales, I stick to dry yeast.  I also use a lot of 34/70 for lagers.
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on November 07, 2015, 08:05:34 am
Wlp090, 001,  002,  007,  013,  300 for ales. Wlp830, 833, 835, 838 for lagers.


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Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: The Professor on November 08, 2015, 11:06:50 am
My list is short:
1)  The Survivor (origin unknown, handed to me as a slurry in a mayo jar back in the early 80s and saved on slants after going through around 30 generations)
2)  1272/BRY97 (original Ballantine ale strain) (probably should be #1...it's my most used choice this year)
3)  1099
4)  1968

I've played around with lots of others over the years, but these four are the core to which I always return (I like repeatability and so see little point in switching up yeasts very often).
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: coolman26 on November 10, 2015, 10:53:11 am
BRY-97 I really need to give this yeast another try.  I have to say 007 is my favorite for so many styles.  This list makes me think about a lot of yeasts that I've never looked at. 

I generally use these most:
007
1450
530
1056
2124
833
2000
GY018
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: bbesser on November 10, 2015, 11:28:58 am
1056 - American Ale
1099 - Whitbread
3711 - French Saison
3787 - Trappist High Gravity
3068 - Weihenstephan Weizen
2308 - Munich Lager
Title: Re: What are your most frequently used ale/lager liquid yeasts, post yours please.
Post by: narvin on November 10, 2015, 06:05:07 pm
White Labs:

001 California Ale
002 English Ale
380 Hefeweizen IV
510 Bastogne Belgian Ale
530 Abbey Ale
565 Belgian Saison
655 Belgian Sour Mix
830 German Lager
833 German Bock
838 South German Lager