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Title: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on June 11, 2010, 09:35:48 PM
Living in the Phoenix area prompted me to design a brewery that I could use indoors during the summer heat. That meant that it had to be electric, small, portable, and able to run off 120V. The largest 120V heating element is 2000 W, which meant that I could boil no more than 5 gallons max - no problem since I like the process as brewing almost as much as the end product. Here's what I came up with - the Brewkart! I end up with 4 gallons into the fermenter, which is just fine by me. It's all stainless and copper, PID controlled, and fully portable for the occasional brewout. It's also a 2 vessel (Brutus 20 style - I still mange to get 70 - 72% effeciency) HERMS system that utilizes the coil for both mash temperature control as well as chilling. All I need to do is clean out the mash tun during the boil, and fill it with ice water that gets pumped through the coil to chill. Along with a constant recirculation of the wort, I can chill 4 gallons to pitching temp very quickly. Also, no hoses need to be moved while brewing (limits the possibility of indoor messes). Lastly, many props go out to the folks on homebrewtalk.com who inspired and helped me along the way!

SS bling:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_q6egUh4s21M/TBK4sq9WIjI/AAAAAAAAAA0/zpFrECDfAsI/s800/IMG_6306.jpg)

Parts:
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_q6egUh4s21M/TBK4s8w6QPI/AAAAAAAAAA4/HHxyA9g8t-k/s800/IMG_6309.jpg)

Coming together:
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_q6egUh4s21M/TBK4swa-KcI/AAAAAAAAAA8/SxwLKq38Fhg/s800/IMG_6490.jpg)

Building the panel:
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_q6egUh4s21M/TBK4tHhf-8I/AAAAAAAAABA/cB-wJ562FMY/s800/IMG_6493.jpg)

Inside the kettle:
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_q6egUh4s21M/TBK4tf6wY8I/AAAAAAAAABE/SZ0nC-b_0LQ/s800/IMG_6494.jpg)

Done! (mostly):
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_q6egUh4s21M/TBK46Rm_ppI/AAAAAAAAABQ/yv5_dy5iihM/s800/IMG_6497.jpg)

Wet test:
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_q6egUh4s21M/TBK46qFoIEI/AAAAAAAAABU/KJFDhlS6jd4/s800/IMG_6499.jpg)

At home in my office:
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_q6egUh4s21M/TBK46yD1oEI/AAAAAAAAABY/jqQO0eq7lcU/s800/IMG_6502.jpg)

Brewday set-up (w/ exhaust fan):
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_q6egUh4s21M/TBK5AcsrjMI/AAAAAAAAABk/nGXFaaUxD7w/s800/IMG_6507.jpg)

First mash:
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_q6egUh4s21M/TBK47GHmX4I/AAAAAAAAABc/_2LWShIkLvs/s800/IMG_6503.jpg)
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: dbeechum on June 11, 2010, 09:52:20 PM
I'm guessing homebrewtalk doesn't like the hotlinking.
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on June 11, 2010, 09:57:01 PM
I don't see why they'd have a problem with it... I'm a paid member, credit them in this post, and am somewhat active over there. Really though, I'm just lazy... already had the pics uploaded on their site... If I hear that from anyone there that they don't want me linking to them, I'll re-do it...
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: Hokerer on June 11, 2010, 10:23:50 PM
I don't see why they'd have a problem with it... I'm a paid member, credit them in this post, and am somewhat active over there. Really though, I'm just lazy... already had the pics uploaded on their site... If I hear that from anyone there that they don't want me linking to them, I'll re-do it...

If you want anyone here to be able to see the pics, then you need to re-do it.  You might be able to see them since they're yours but nobody else can.  We just get lots of images saying "no hotlinking"
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on June 11, 2010, 10:37:32 PM
Ok, I removed the links as I try to figure out how to do this the "right way"...
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on June 11, 2010, 10:45:26 PM
Alright... trying to pull the images from Picasa now... is it working?
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: dbeechum on June 11, 2010, 10:52:31 PM
Indeed.

That's very cool. You use it in the kitchen or in that office?

Also, what's the funny blue kinky return hose in the pot?
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on June 11, 2010, 10:57:21 PM

That's very cool. You use it in the kitchen or in that office?


Mainly the office, though I could wheel it out to the kitchen... but my wife prefers I keep it in the office...


Also, what's the funny blue kinky return hose in the pot?

This is loc-line that I picked up from McMaster-Carr http://www.mcmaster.com/#loc-line-coolant-hose/=7hopb4 (http://www.mcmaster.com/#loc-line-coolant-hose/=7hopb4).
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: richardt on June 11, 2010, 10:59:47 PM
Took me awhile to find the heater element (5 o'clock position in the picture inside your kettle).

How long does it take to bring water up to a boil?

How long to step up temps (e.g. 20 F bump, say 133 F to 153 F)?
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on June 11, 2010, 11:05:36 PM

How long does it take to bring water up to a boil?

How long to step up temps (e.g. 20 F bump, say 133 F to 153 F)?

With a full 5 gallons (pre-boil) in the kettle, it probably takes about 20 min to get to boil from mash-out temps, though this is a guess as I don't have that info documented.

Step temps are quicker, as I only have about 3 gal in the kettle when it's acting as HLT. I get about 2 deg/min rise in mash temp.
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: dbeechum on June 11, 2010, 11:31:52 PM
This is loc-line that I picked up from McMaster-Carr http://www.mcmaster.com/#loc-line-coolant-hose/=7hopb4 (http://www.mcmaster.com/#loc-line-coolant-hose/=7hopb4).

Nifty.. hopefully you don't bring it over the safe point of 170! :)
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on June 11, 2010, 11:34:27 PM

Nifty.. hopefully you don't bring it over the safe point of 170! :)

Nope... just lightly brush it at the end of mash-out...

The stuff really does make a great sparge arm; many folks at HBT have used it and I just "borrowed" the idea...
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: richardt on June 12, 2010, 12:48:40 AM
I like what you did with your box  :o (it just doesn't sound right, does it?).  Anyway...

Got any schematics of how you built it?  Where did you get the parts?  Cool blue buttons--my kids would love that.
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on June 12, 2010, 02:08:37 PM
No schematic, but I do have a parts list id you are interested...
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: mindar on June 12, 2010, 07:10:20 PM
1 - Looks great! And is a lot like the idea I've been wanting to build in the basement. (Although I'm looking at 10 gallons, so I'm looking at using two 3500w 120v on two different breakers for my setup.)
2 - was the largest element you could find the 2000? I've seen as high as 5500 on a 120 line. Was it a question of size or concern over power usage, or caramelization of the wort?

Aain, congrats on the great looking build!
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on June 12, 2010, 09:02:44 PM
2000 W is the largest 120V element. Anything larger is 240v. As it is the 2000 pulls about 17 amps...
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: brewnickbrew on July 10, 2010, 02:34:40 PM
Sweet! I am not sure what I like better; the brew cart, the home office set up complete with a library, or the fact that you have an oak barrel. Oh, okay, I love it all.
Great job on the build. I like the compact design too.
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on July 10, 2010, 02:41:42 PM
Thanks! I appreciate it. I spend most of my life in that office (work from home) so I need it to be nice...
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: brewnickbrew on July 10, 2010, 03:33:57 PM
I work from home too. I just mentioned to my wife about bringing the brewery in and it was a "what?"    ;D
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: brewnickbrew on July 10, 2010, 09:26:53 PM
Where did you get your emergency stop button? Apparently I need one for my system now.
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on July 10, 2010, 10:24:37 PM
Automation Direct is awesome... Check it out:
http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Pushbuttons_-z-_Switches_-z-_Indicators/Eaton_Cutler-Hammer_22mm_(E22_Series)/Emergency_Stop_-z-_Mushroom_Pushbuttons_-a-_Stations (http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Pushbuttons_-z-_Switches_-z-_Indicators/Eaton_Cutler-Hammer_22mm_(E22_Series)/Emergency_Stop_-z-_Mushroom_Pushbuttons_-a-_Stations)
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: brewnickbrew on July 10, 2010, 11:16:26 PM
Awesome. Thank you. My wife was like: "What about an emergency shut off" She's on a safety committee at her work.
I'd have to say she is right though.
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: richardt on July 11, 2010, 03:17:28 AM
Pull the plug.
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: beerocd on July 11, 2010, 05:03:28 AM
Plug it into the switched light socket in the office. She can save your butt if you can't get to the shiny E-stop button.
(http://emandpplabs.nscee.edu/cool/temporary/doors/electrospectrum/Electrocuted.gif)
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: lonnie mac on July 13, 2010, 09:37:25 PM
thorongil, this looks very nice my friend! If you don't mind, I have robbed a pic for my website! Starting to get enough Brutus 2.0 systems out there to where I want to have them on their own page now... This will make one fine addition!
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on July 13, 2010, 09:40:41 PM
I'm honored Lonnie... and thanks for leading the way!
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: lonnie mac on July 13, 2010, 09:45:52 PM
Yea, so this makes me want to actually build one myself! Brew inside, man, I could look at this Texas heat through a nice air conditioned window!
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on July 13, 2010, 09:56:11 PM
It's everything you hope it could be... but I still like to brew outside in the winter...
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: jwaldner on July 13, 2010, 11:57:26 PM
Wow, fantastic system!

I have a spare 220V outlet downstairs I could use for something like this.

How much did it cost to pull everything together and can you share your parts breakdown?

Thanks
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: thorongil on July 14, 2010, 12:08:18 AM
Wow, fantastic system!

I have a spare 220V outlet downstairs I could use for something like this.

How much did it cost to pull everything together and can you share your parts breakdown?

Thanks

PM sent with link to parts list.
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: kohlerbeer on August 03, 2010, 02:48:14 AM
Could you send the parts list to me as well?
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: abuker on January 09, 2011, 06:53:03 PM
Could you please send me a copy of the parts list?
Title: Re: The Brewkart
Post by: Kit B on January 12, 2011, 09:07:40 PM
Oh, my goodness!
Please, share a parts list with me.
It's almost exactly as I've been envisioning mine.
'Cept, I plan on a larger element, chiller plumbed to household supply line & stainless tubing (rather than copper).