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Title: Adding roast flavor post primary?
Post by: babalu87 on November 12, 2009, 05:07:06 PM
Want a little more roast flavor/color in a beer that went into secondary last night (DAMN ME for not double crushing the grains this time!!!!!!

Initial thought:

Make a mini-mash of Roasted/Carafa. Boil/cool and add to secondary.
I really wont get much in the way of fermentables but was thinking of fermenting it out and then adding.
Title: Re: Adding roast flavor post primary?
Post by: tom on November 12, 2009, 05:12:29 PM
I just did that. I had a Foreign stout that I wanted more roast in. I got a pound of roast barley and soaked it, then boiled it. I cooled it in the fridge and then added it to the keg until I got the roast I wanted. No worries about any fermentables.
Title: Re: Adding roast flavor post primary?
Post by: babalu87 on November 12, 2009, 05:17:43 PM
Thanks for clarifying

I'll do a taste test on what volume and then add it.
Beer was 68 and flat when I sampled it. I'll cool and force carb a sample to see if it really needs it before adding anything but my head tells me it needs a little.

I'll definitely pour some samples and add by tiny increments to get it where I want it.

Fun hobby isnt it  8)
Title: Re: Adding roast flavor post primary?
Post by: rabid_dingo on November 15, 2009, 02:59:45 PM
Would you boil or steep? Would there be a tannin threat?
Title: Re: Adding roast flavor post primary?
Post by: tom on November 15, 2009, 04:46:58 PM
I steeped the grain and then boiled the wort. My stout was in a keg so I just added some cooled wort in portions until I got the roast I was looking for
Title: Re: Adding roast flavor post primary?
Post by: snakeplissken on November 15, 2009, 09:00:32 PM
I'd just add some coffee or espresso.
Title: Re: Adding roast flavor post primary?
Post by: ndcube on November 17, 2009, 12:54:48 PM
I recently bottled an oatmeal stout that wasn't as roasty as I was hoping.  Wish I would have read this first.

Next time I'm going to try pulverizing the roasted grains instead of just crushing.
Title: Re: Adding roast flavor post primary?
Post by: central_wa_brewing on November 18, 2009, 04:27:18 AM
I just did that. I had a Foreign stout that I wanted more roast in. I got a pound of roast barley and soaked it, then boiled it. I cooled it in the fridge and then added it to the keg until I got the roast I wanted. No worries about any fermentables.

Awesome!  I have a Sweet (too sweet) Stout that I would love to have more roast flavor.  I'm going to try this.  Hell yeah, thank you.
Title: Re: Adding roast flavor post primary?
Post by: corkybstewart on November 19, 2009, 10:44:36 PM
Great topic.  A lot of times I want to make half of a 10 gallon batch dark, but I haven't steeped grains in about 14 years and was wondering what the best way to do it would be.  I could just steep X amount in a little water, boil and add to one fermenter.
Title: Re: Adding roast flavor post primary?
Post by: babalu87 on November 19, 2009, 10:55:44 PM
Great topic.  A lot of times I want to make half of a 10 gallon batch dark, but I haven't steeped grains in about 14 years and was wondering what the best way to do it would be.  I could just steep X amount in a little water, boil and add to one fermenter.

Friend of mine does it with partigyle mashes
First would be say his IPA then the second runnnigs a Porter with either dark grains added to the mash or steeped in the kettle