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Title: Get your beer evaluated by a professional judge! Beta testers needed.
Post by: heyimmatt on November 24, 2015, 10:13:57 PM
Hey brewers! We're about to launch an on-demand homebrew review service where you can get feedback on your homebrew and recipe from professional beer judges. We need a couple willing participants for our final testing. You'll get a written evaluation and competition-like numerical score for half the normal price! Includes a protective beer shipper, pre-paid shipping, and your review. Only two requirements: 1) You're a US resident over the age of 21 and 2) you have one 12 oz bottle of homebrew to send in for review.

If you're interested, go to www.reviewmyhomebrew.com, click the Order Now button in the header, and enter promo code BETATESTER during checkout for 50% off. Promo code will expire after 3 people claim it. Cheers!
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Post by: ultravista on November 24, 2015, 10:20:51 PM
I have pondered ways to have people pay me to drink beer. This is awesome.
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Post by: AmandaK on November 24, 2015, 10:25:19 PM
What constitutes a "professional beer judge"?

Edit: nevermind. Found it near the bottom.
Double edit: $40?? Our homebrew club membership is a steal at this rate!
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Post by: Iliff Ave on November 24, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
Hmmm...why not just submit into a competition? $7 an entry seems much more affordable...
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Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on November 24, 2015, 10:35:52 PM
What constitutes a "professional beer judge"?

Edit: nevermind. Found it near the bottom.
Double edit: $40?? Our homebrew club membership is a steal at this rate!

IMA'Professional Beer Drinker...that counts right  ::)
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Post by: mabrungard on November 24, 2015, 10:40:51 PM
Grand Master Judges. Nice, but it doesn't necessarily mean better than a Master judge. It just means they have performed more service to BJCP and that doesn't make a better judge, just more conscientious.
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Post by: heyimmatt on November 24, 2015, 10:49:26 PM
Hmmm...why not just submit into a competition? $7 an entry seems much more affordable...

We wanted to provide another channel for brewers to get feedback on their beers. We love competitions (and enter them frequently), but there are a few inherent problems we felt we could address.

For one, competitions occur on a particular date so you have to arrange your brew calendar around them. We think there's value in an on-demand service that accommodates your schedule rather than the other way around.

Also, competition feedback is usually minimal out of necessity. There are so many beers to judge and so little time to spend on each one. Our service allows the judge the luxury of spending more time with each brewer's beer.

Lastly, unlike competitions, we provide a way for brewers to submit recipe and process information for the judge to look at while evaluating the beer. This allows the judge to provide specific and actionable feedback that is deeper than what you receive in competition score sheets.
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Post by: Iliff Ave on November 24, 2015, 10:52:27 PM
Hmmm...why not just submit into a competition? $7 an entry seems much more affordable...

We wanted to provide another channel for brewers to get feedback on their beers. We love competitions (and enter them frequently), but there are a few inherent problems we felt we could address.

For one, competitions occur on a particular date so you have to arrange your brew calendar around them. We think there's value in an on-demand service that accommodates your schedule rather than the other way around.

Also, competition feedback is usually minimal out of necessity. There are so many beers to judge and so little time to spend on each one. Our service allows the judge the luxury of spending more time with each brewer's beer.

Lastly, unlike competitions, we provide a way for brewers to submit recipe and process information for the judge to look at while evaluating the beer. This allows the judge to provide specific and actionable feedback that is deeper than what you receive in competition score sheets.

Got ya. So instead of learning on your own how to make a beer better, you are basically paying a consultant to tell you how to do it?
Title: Re: Get your beer evaluated by a professional judge! Beta testers needed.
Post by: heyimmatt on November 24, 2015, 11:02:11 PM
Hmmm...why not just submit into a competition? $7 an entry seems much more affordable...

We wanted to provide another channel for brewers to get feedback on their beers. We love competitions (and enter them frequently), but there are a few inherent problems we felt we could address.

For one, competitions occur on a particular date so you have to arrange your brew calendar around them. We think there's value in an on-demand service that accommodates your schedule rather than the other way around.

Also, competition feedback is usually minimal out of necessity. There are so many beers to judge and so little time to spend on each one. Our service allows the judge the luxury of spending more time with each brewer's beer.

Lastly, unlike competitions, we provide a way for brewers to submit recipe and process information for the judge to look at while evaluating the beer. This allows the judge to provide specific and actionable feedback that is deeper than what you receive in competition score sheets.

Got ya. So instead of learning on your own how to make a beer better, you are basically paying a consultant to tell you how to do it?

We see our service as another tool for homebrewers to use to hone their skills and brew better beer. Brewing has been passed down in a Master/Apprentice model for ages. We don't view getting pointers from experts as a bad thing.
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Post by: erockrph on November 24, 2015, 11:24:56 PM
I'm not a fan of having the recipe in front of the judge while they are tasting. It's too easy to taste what you're expecting to taste when you have the ingredient list in front of you. Too much room for bias that way. A blind tasting would be much more valuable.

Not having a local club or LHBS myself, I can appreciate the service you have to offer. If I was seriously into competitions or planning on opening a brewery, then I'd certainly give it a shot.

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Post by: HoosierBrew on November 24, 2015, 11:26:11 PM
I see that pre-paid shipping is included. Actually, I think it has a place for some brewers. Personally, I've brewed long enough to be comfortable with cause and effect of ingredients and process, and can eval my beers pretty effectively. So I wouldn't be liable to use the service. But that doesn't mean it couldn't be of value to someone newer to brewing. Of course entering comps can give you good feedback as well. This is just another option.
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Post by: coolman26 on November 25, 2015, 01:48:55 AM
I can see its worth.  Especially if someone is trying to go pro. or really fine tune their brews.  I can't see myself using it, but I can see people using the service.  Plus it would beat getting feedback like some of the comps I've entered.  I like the idea
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Post by: ynotbrusum on November 25, 2015, 03:13:52 AM
My club has several very capable judges who are willing to give honest feedback, as well as a couple pro Brewers, so I don't see the need.  Even so, I can see those Brewers who don't have access to a good club using this service.
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Post by: Iliff Ave on November 25, 2015, 03:17:28 AM
I too see the value for specific brewers. I can't myself imagine spending more than I spend on a batch. I enter competitions mainly to get feedback but understand how this could be better.
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Post by: tesgüino on November 25, 2015, 03:18:40 AM
Is there a list of the BJCP ID's of the judges who will be evaluating the submissions?
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Post by: udubdawg on November 25, 2015, 04:14:22 AM
GM doesn't mean much, until I make GM, then it will mean a lot.  I feel the same about the Ninkasi award.  ;D

Antoch and Burkemper and I are going to undercut,
Act now, 3 / $100!

...to each their own

Cheers--
-Michael
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Post by: AmandaK on November 25, 2015, 12:55:18 PM
GM doesn't mean much, until I make GM, then it will mean a lot.  I feel the same about the Ninkasi award.  ;D

Antoch and Burkemper and I are going to undercut,
Act now, 3 / $100!

...to each their own

Cheers--
-Michael

Hahahahaha. We gonna take this world by storm!  ;D

But really, who are the GMs? I'm kinda surprised that I've not heard of this.
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Post by: MDixon on November 25, 2015, 01:30:22 PM
The BJCP Bylaws do not allow one to charge for judging services. The bylaws do allow reimbursements.

http://www.bjcp.org/docs/BJCP_Bylaws.pdf
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Post by: hopfenundmalz on November 25, 2015, 01:57:47 PM
What constitutes a "professional beer judge"?

Edit: nevermind. Found it near the bottom.
Double edit: $40?? Our homebrew club membership is a steal at this rate!
Get those service points Amanda, then you can be a professional beer judge!

You might want to keep your day job, I think.
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Post by: mabrungard on November 25, 2015, 02:01:38 PM
The BJCP Bylaws do not allow one to charge for judging services. The bylaws do allow reimbursements.

http://www.bjcp.org/docs/BJCP_Bylaws.pdf

Thus the reason for the anonymity of the judges on their website.
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Post by: Stevie on November 25, 2015, 02:01:55 PM
Cost of shipping must be a large portion of the expenses.
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Post by: AmandaK on November 25, 2015, 02:08:15 PM
The BJCP Bylaws do not allow one to charge for judging services. The bylaws do allow reimbursements.

http://www.bjcp.org/docs/BJCP_Bylaws.pdf

Mike, what's the difference here? Reimbursements would be things the judges paid for, and then are given money for exactly that. They aren't paying for shipping. I'm just confused? Too early on the day before Thanksgiving. My brain refuses to work.
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Post by: mabrungard on November 25, 2015, 02:09:39 PM
Ultimately, people can and do charge for their services. The BJCP prohibition would probably not hold up in court. While I appreciate knowing that these are highly ranked judges and I can have confidence of their skill and findings, its apparent that all this group needs to do is remove any mention of BJCP from their website.

I trust everyone is aware that there are other firms, such as Siebel, that offer beer evaluation services.   
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Post by: tommymorris on November 25, 2015, 02:20:28 PM
If BJCP judges can't charge and therefore the judges choose to remain anonymous, then how do I know my beer was really evaluated by a BJCP judge?
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Post by: dmtaylor on November 25, 2015, 02:30:36 PM
I can see its worth.  Especially if someone is trying to go pro. or really fine tune their brews.  I can't see myself using it, but I can see people using the service.  Plus it would beat getting feedback like some of the comps I've entered.  I like the idea.

+1.

The BJCP thing is worth more discussion though.  I would think a GM should be able to charge for services rendered, regardless of BJCP policies.  If BJCP doesn't like it, and the GM gets stripped of his/her rank.... so what!?  They can't possibly seek monetary damages..... could they???  Ack..... maybe Martin is right.  The OP shouldn't credit BJCP on the website.  What they *could* say instead, though, is that the judges are all "highest ranking officials from a well reknowned beer judging organization (wink wink!)".  I bet they could get away with that.

I like the concept for this service.  Not that I would use it.  But in my novice days, I might have.
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Post by: narvin on November 25, 2015, 02:30:44 PM
GM doesn't mean much, until I make GM, then it will mean a lot.  I feel the same about the Ninkasi award.  ;D

Antoch and Burkemper and I are going to undercut,
Act now, 3 / $100!

...to each their own

Cheers--
-Michael


"No! No, no, not 6 minutes! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel."
Title: Re: Get your beer evaluated by a professional judge! Beta testers needed.
Post by: AmandaK on November 25, 2015, 02:53:58 PM
What constitutes a "professional beer judge"?

Edit: nevermind. Found it near the bottom.
Double edit: $40?? Our homebrew club membership is a steal at this rate!
Get those service points Amanda, then you can be a professional beer judge!

You might want to keep your day job, I think.

Only 61 more exams to (lead) grade, 2 exams admin'd, and 2 exams proctored left to go to get there! Ha. Should be about 2 more years at that rate if my post it note estimates are right, especially considering I'm taking the PE in April '16 which will have me slowing down on BJCP stuff for a bit.
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Post by: MDixon on November 25, 2015, 03:02:03 PM
The PE is easy with proper prep. Just study an hour or two EVERY night for about six months and you'll find it simple. I actually finished early and left when I took it and back then half of it was longhand. ;)

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Post by: dmtaylor on November 25, 2015, 03:17:37 PM
I elected not to take the PE, as it is 1) a lot of work for 2) negligible benefit and 3) more responsibility.  Especially if you've already found a stable job, there's really no benefit.  Some companies might give you a few extra bucks.  Mine doesn't.

Plus I probably could never pass it anyway.  ;)

Good luck to all who do try it.
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Post by: reverseapachemaster on November 25, 2015, 03:38:23 PM
Use of the BJCP name and titles is probably without permission and a violation of the BJCP organization's intellectual property.

BJCP judges taking money for judging in violation of the BJCP rules can and should be stripped of their titles. It is part of the rules of being awarded a title under the BJCP. It's not just a technical issue with the rules but once judges feel comfortable taking pay for their work you are on the precipice of a series of other problems. Once judges start taking money for judging there is less of a chasm between taking money for judging a particular way and objectively judging beer. It also means judges may start to feel they can auction off their services and competitions will end up with fewer highly ranked judges.

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Post by: toby on November 25, 2015, 03:59:17 PM
What constitutes a "professional beer judge"?

Edit: nevermind. Found it near the bottom.
Double edit: $40?? Our homebrew club membership is a steal at this rate!

I still don't see how one can be considered a "professional beer judge".

Is there a list of the BJCP ID's of the judges who will be evaluating the submissions?

Don't expect to see it.  This is a bit shady considering the BJCP bylaws.

The BJCP Bylaws do not allow one to charge for judging services. The bylaws do allow reimbursements.

http://www.bjcp.org/docs/BJCP_Bylaws.pdf

Ultimately, people can and do charge for their services. The BJCP prohibition would probably not hold up in court.

You think someone is going to sue if they get their rank/membership revoked?
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Post by: udubdawg on November 25, 2015, 04:00:07 PM
And what if someone named Matt was taking the money, collecting beers, and his friends who are GM are reviewing beers for him, in exchange for Subway or pizza.  Matt scans/mails the reviews, etc...

...just sayin', I see ways around aforementioned problems. *shrug*  if Brewers Cup wants to give me a stipend for my travel or AHA wants to give $ to exam graders who judge the Finals, I won't turn it down.
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Post by: toby on November 25, 2015, 04:11:16 PM
...just sayin', I see ways around aforementioned problems. *shrug*  if Brewers Cup wants to give me a stipend for my travel or AHA wants to give $ to exam graders who judge the Finals, I won't turn it down.

Those can easily be seen as reimbursements.  I guess it's possible that Matt has found a GM that's willing to let him keep any profits, though.  But then again, 'professional' implies that one is making money off of one's judging abilities.  ;)
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Post by: udubdawg on November 25, 2015, 04:21:19 PM
Obligatory "math is hard" - top .01% would suggest there are over a half million beer judges.  ;D
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Post by: santoch on November 25, 2015, 04:22:21 PM
Quote
Section 4 – Members.
  Members may not charge fees to perform judging duties,
although they may accept payments, in-kind donations, and/or expense
reimbursements if those are reasonable
and customary for specific events they
are attending.

I guess it can be argued that requiring payment for judging a competition is against the bylaws, but accepting reasonable payment for evaluation/troubleshooting services (because the recipe/process is attached) is ok.
It's a fine line on what exactly would constitute breaking these bylaws.  "Judging duties" to me sounds like judging in a competition setting, not evaluating a single beer or beers (with the recipes and their process info) for somebody to help them make it better <shrugs> [edit - free tickets to the State Fair are customarily given out to the judges, and also the schwag that they get. These things fall into this camp of customary and reasonable for SPECIFIC EVENTS, IMO.  The difference is what about for activities OUTSIDE of events?  Can you NOT hire a consultant?  Seems an overreach to conclude that to me]

All that said, I know for a fact that publications pay a small stipend for beer reviews, Zymurgy and Beer Connoisseur included.  But these payments are rather small and certainly fall into the "reasonable" camp.

FWIW, I'm in no way affiliated with this.  I still stand by my long-standing offer to evaluate anyone's homebrew for free!  Just PM me, and realize that it's pretty expensive to ship to Seattle from the rest of the country.

(Though I do admit in light of these events, MikeW's offer is quite tempting ;-) )
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Post by: denny on November 25, 2015, 04:39:17 PM
Hey brewers! We're about to launch an on-demand homebrew review service where you can get feedback on your homebrew and recipe from professional beer judges. We need a couple willing participants for our final testing. You'll get a written evaluation and competition-like numerical score for half the normal price! Includes a protective beer shipper, pre-paid shipping, and your review. Only two requirements: 1) You're a US resident over the age of 21 and 2) you have one 12 oz bottle of homebrew to send in for review.

If you're interested, go to www.reviewmyhomebrew.com, click the Order Now button in the header, and enter promo code BETATESTER during checkout for 50% off. Promo code will expire after 3 people claim it. Cheers!

Define the term "professional judge".
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Post by: erockrph on November 25, 2015, 04:41:01 PM
Define the term "professional judge".
You pay me to judge your beer.
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Post by: mabrungard on November 25, 2015, 05:02:47 PM
The PE is easy with proper prep. Just study an hour or two EVERY night for about six months and you'll find it simple. I actually finished early and left when I took it and back then half of it was longhand. ;)

Amanda, This is the same approach I took. Mike, I got lucky and had questions that were right up my alley and I finished the afternoon session early too. Scared me, but I passed easily. 8 hours of testing is no fun!
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Post by: MDixon on November 25, 2015, 05:37:34 PM
The problem with the PE is most people believe they do not need to prep and it will just fall out of their head. Working as an engineer and taking an exam are two completely different things. I just checked, the NC PE passing rate is 55.5% so studying is critical for success!
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Post by: heyimmatt on November 25, 2015, 06:12:57 PM
Wow, thanks so much for the comments everyone! Love the feedback!

To put the charging for judging thing to bed, I emailed with Gordon about this a while back. His response:

No conflict at all.  Judges can't charge to do normal judging, but private evaluations are no problem.  We get paid to review beers in Zymurgy.  I've charged breweries to evaluate their products.  Seems like the same idea.  Check the BJCP By-Laws for specifics.  Article IX, Section 4. 

Good luck with the project,
Gordon
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Post by: chumley on November 25, 2015, 06:41:19 PM
Capitalism at its best.  I love it.

I can see using such a service if you have an infection or some off-flavor you need help in identifying, especially if you are new to homebrewing.  But, as someone who finds the whole BJCP concept to be somewhat silly, to pay for a service to help you improve your beer, as opposed to just tweaking your recipe until you are happy with the results, also seems somewhat silly.  :)
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Post by: chinaski on November 25, 2015, 07:42:26 PM
Capitalism at its best.  I love it.

Indeed.  Let the market for this service have its way.  I don't have the extra $ to pay someone to judge my beers and even if I did, I'd seek out my fellow club members to do it for the love of brewing.  I'd be much more likely to spend the $ on analytical services if I needed them; even at its best, judging is a pretty subjective endeavor.
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Post by: mabrungard on November 25, 2015, 07:45:20 PM
But, as someone who finds the whole BJCP concept to be somewhat silly, to pay for a service to help you improve your beer, as opposed to just tweaking your recipe until you are happy with the results, also seems somewhat silly.  :)

I don't disagree with your notion that we should be brewing to please our own tastes. However, I've found that many people can be blind to faults in their beer or they just aren't familiar enough to understand they exist. Having an unbiased and knowledgible assessment of your beers can help you on a path where you make beer that someone other than yourself can enjoy! ;-)
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Post by: MDixon on November 25, 2015, 07:50:00 PM
If you love your beer, then press on, but don't believe the hype when others rave about your beer without some outside verification. Far too many people are opening breweries based on opinions of those who have no clue and many will fail unless they get it figured out.
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Post by: Iliff Ave on November 25, 2015, 07:56:04 PM
If you love your beer, then press on, but don't believe the hype when others rave about your beer without some outside verification. Far too many people are opening breweries based on opinions of those who have no clue and many will fail unless they get it figured out.

Something I probably heard here: "Will people still like your beer if they have to pay for it?"
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Post by: udubdawg on November 25, 2015, 08:31:46 PM
I like a sliding price for this service. You owe me $45, minus whatever I score your beer. So for 50 pt beers I'm giving you $5.  Seems fair.  8)
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Post by: AmandaK on November 25, 2015, 08:35:48 PM
I like a sliding price for this service. You owe me $45, minus whatever I score your beer. So for 50 pt beers I'm giving you $5.  Seems fair.  8)

So are we going to start the Michael/Antoch/Burkemper review service or what? I'll gladly pay people to give me 50 point beer! :P Hahaha
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Post by: PrettyBeard on November 25, 2015, 09:26:51 PM
I'd be happy to pay anyone a bottle or two of homebrew for a serious review.  More then that is stretching it.
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Post by: homoeccentricus on November 25, 2015, 09:46:37 PM
I'd be happy to pay anyone a bottle or two of homebrew for a serious review.  More then that is stretching it.

Except if the homebrew would be particularly lousy. Then you would be punishing the benefactor  ;)
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Post by: klickitat jim on November 25, 2015, 10:54:34 PM
GM doesn't mean much, until I make GM, then it will mean a lot.  I feel the same about the Ninkasi award.  ;D

Antoch and Burkemper and I are going to undercut,
Act now, 3 / $100!

...to each their own

Cheers--
-Michael


"No! No, no, not 6 minutes! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel."
Step into my office...

Great movie, and awesome segue


I dont think I would undercut them, just out shyster them. Call it Galactic Beer Cup! Everyone gets a gold medal, and all the notoriety and prestige that comes with it! Just $80 per beer, and you dont even have to send in a beer. Just send $80, plus shipping and handling to GBC and your medal will ship in 6-8weeks
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Post by: Hooper on November 26, 2015, 01:59:22 AM
Man...I wish i had more room on my I love Me wall for a kinsasa gold metal...but darn...It's pretty full...what are the true dimensions of the award?
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Post by: santoch on November 26, 2015, 05:18:38 AM
So are we going to start the Michael/Antoch/Burkemper review service or what? I'll gladly pay people to give me 50 point beer! :P Hahaha

How many of them thar 50's do you want?  ;-)
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Post by: denny on November 26, 2015, 05:34:33 PM
If you love your beer, then press on, but don't believe the hype when others rave about your beer without some outside verification. Far too many people are opening breweries based on opinions of those who have no clue and many will fail unless they get it figured out.

Hey, my friends think it's great beer!  ;)
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Post by: denny on November 26, 2015, 05:35:56 PM
I dont think I would undercut them, just out shyster them. Call it Galactic Beer Cup! Everyone gets a gold medal, and all the notoriety and prestige that comes with it! Just $80 per beer, and you dont even have to send in a beer. Just send $80, plus shipping and handling to GBC and your medal will ship in 6-8weeks

Believe it or not, there are comps for commercial beer that actually work like that.
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Post by: hopfenundmalz on November 26, 2015, 09:50:24 PM
I dont think I would undercut them, just out shyster them. Call it Galactic Beer Cup! Everyone gets a gold medal, and all the notoriety and prestige that comes with it! Just $80 per beer, and you dont even have to send in a beer. Just send $80, plus shipping and handling to GBC and your medal will ship in 6-8weeks

Believe it or not, there are comps for commercial beer that actually work like that.
With higher entry fees?
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Post by: denny on November 27, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
I dont think I would undercut them, just out shyster them. Call it Galactic Beer Cup! Everyone gets a gold medal, and all the notoriety and prestige that comes with it! Just $80 per beer, and you dont even have to send in a beer. Just send $80, plus shipping and handling to GBC and your medal will ship in 6-8weeks

Believe it or not, there are comps for commercial beer that actually work like that.
With higher entry fees?

Much higher.  My understanding is that the more you pay, the better the award you get.
Title: Re: Get your beer evaluated by a professional judge! Beta testers needed.
Post by: heyimmatt on December 02, 2015, 07:19:37 PM
Hi all,

First and foremost, I’d like to thank everyone for their comments and feedback. I’m pleasantly surprised by the amount of discussion Review My Homebrew generated as I didn’t really expect it! To help provide some more clarity and context around the service, I’ve put up an “about me” page so you know who I am and why I started this business as well as a blog post to address some of the feedback that came out of the various comment threads.

About me: http://www.reviewmyhomebrew.com/#!about/n0oq3

Blog: http://www.reviewmyhomebrew.com/#!blogpage/uuzgp

I’d like to invite anyone interested in trying us out to shoot an email to info@reviewmyhomebrew.com for a reduced rate. Cheers!
 
-Matt
Title: Re: Get your beer evaluated by a professional judge! Beta testers needed.
Post by: toby on December 02, 2015, 07:59:23 PM
Did I miss the post where you answered the question several people posed, i.e. "What constitutes a professional beer judge?"
Title: Re: Get your beer evaluated by a professional judge! Beta testers needed.
Post by: heyimmatt on December 02, 2015, 08:02:29 PM
Did I miss the post where you answered the question several people posed, i.e. "What constitutes a professional beer judge?"

BJCP Grand Master level. Perhaps professional isn't the correct word, although many GMs do get paid for their judging services by writing for mags, doing sensory panels for breweries, etc. I guess "expert" might be better?
Title: Re: Get your beer evaluated by a professional judge! Beta testers needed.
Post by: tesgüino on December 02, 2015, 10:23:29 PM
Did I miss the post where you answered the question several people posed, i.e. "What constitutes a professional beer judge?"

BJCP Grand Master level. Perhaps professional isn't the correct word, although many GMs do get paid for their judging services by writing for mags, doing sensory panels for breweries, etc. I guess "expert" might be better?

Might just be me being distrustful, but without BJCP numbers and contact information for the judges (like you get when you enter a BJCP competition), I wouldn’t give much credit to this service.
Title: Re: Get your beer evaluated by a professional judge! Beta testers needed.
Post by: reverseapachemaster on December 03, 2015, 03:52:16 PM
Did I miss the post where you answered the question several people posed, i.e. "What constitutes a professional beer judge?"

BJCP Grand Master level. Perhaps professional isn't the correct word, although many GMs do get paid for their judging services by writing for mags, doing sensory panels for breweries, etc. I guess "expert" might be better?

Might just be me being distrustful, but without BJCP numbers and contact information for the judges (like you get when you enter a BJCP competition), I wouldn’t give much credit to this service.

How much would you pay if I gave you my Texas bar number?  8)