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Title: 2016 NHC
Post by: golfgod04 on February 01, 2016, 03:54:07 PM
So this is the first year Ive been a member of the American Hombrewers Association and I see that the registration for the 2016 National Homebrew Competition is opening at some point today through February 7th. Does anyone have tips or advice on this competition or filling out forms for it?
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Janis on February 01, 2016, 03:58:36 PM
Hi GolfGod04,

The email is going out to all AHA members this morning.  In it you will find the link to the Application form, your membership number, and instructions.

Further instructions for the competition can be found on the Registration and Entry page: https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/competitions/national-homebrew-competition/national-homebrew-competition-registration-entry-information/ (https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/competitions/national-homebrew-competition/national-homebrew-competition-registration-entry-information/)

Good luck in the competition!

Cheers,
Janis
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on February 01, 2016, 04:19:25 PM
The best part of this setup is no matter when you submit during the registration period, there is equal chance for everyone.  Sure beats the "old" days when you had to be online right when it opened and click refresh, refresh, refresh...

Good luck to all those entering.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Janis on February 01, 2016, 04:25:02 PM
Hi theDarkSide,

Excellent point.  The Application form is available starting today and all the way through Sunday Feb 7th.  It doesn't matter when you apply during this time.  You can fill out the application form today and change your mind about judge centers tomorrow, log back in and edit your application.  Just be sure to submit your application before the Application period is over.

Good luck in the competition!

Cheers,
Janis
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: golfgod04 on February 01, 2016, 04:43:19 PM
thanks for the info
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dls5492 on February 01, 2016, 05:32:06 PM
Have the emails been sent?
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Janis on February 01, 2016, 05:36:43 PM
Hi Dls5492,

The emails will go out in several groups today, in order to minimize the unnecessary rush to the Application form. 

Relax.  Please.  The Application form is available all day and night from this morning through February 7th.  It does NOT matter when you apply.  All applications received are treated the same.

Cheers,
Janis
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dls5492 on February 01, 2016, 05:48:12 PM
Janis,
Thank you for answering!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on February 01, 2016, 09:06:21 PM
Entered for 2 beers. Easy deal. Thanks guys!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on February 01, 2016, 11:06:23 PM
Entered for 3 slots -2 beers and a cider. We'll see !

Edit - Liking this new format a lot.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on February 02, 2016, 02:00:48 AM
I asked for 2 slots. It was very easy this year.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on February 02, 2016, 01:49:02 PM
Requested 4 slots, 2 beers and 2 ciders
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ncbrewer on February 10, 2016, 02:20:13 PM
I received NHC confirmation last night for the Nashville site. When I filled out entry information it stated entry shipment window ends March 11th, but on the main info site (Competitions->NHC->Competition Information) March 9th is listed as the deadline for receiving entries. So which is it? Is March 11th specific to the Nashville site?

Thanks,
Steve 
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: fmader on February 10, 2016, 03:01:17 PM
I received NHC confirmation last night for the Nashville site. When I filled out entry information it stated entry shipment window ends March 11th, but on the main info site (Competitions->NHC->Competition Information) March 9th is listed as the deadline for receiving entries. So which is it? Is March 11th specific to the Nashville site?

Thanks,
Steve

I got my confirmation today in Indy. It also states the 11th.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on February 10, 2016, 03:31:17 PM
It looks like they shifted the shipping windows a couple days.  According to the rules in the software, entries will only be accepted 3/2/16 - 3/11/16, instead of 2/29/16 - 3/9/16 on the AHA page.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on February 10, 2016, 04:06:57 PM
Seems like shipping week will depend on your regional judging dates.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on February 10, 2016, 04:26:49 PM
Edited and paid up for Indy.  Nice to get to hand carry to your LHBS.   8)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on February 10, 2016, 04:40:47 PM
Edited and paid up for Indy.  Nice to get to hand carry to your LHBS.   8)

Now that you paid, can you still edit them?
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on February 10, 2016, 04:44:01 PM
Edited and paid up for Indy.  Nice to get to hand carry to your LHBS.   8)

Now that you paid, can you still edit them?


I saw something saying to edit first. Once I edited, the option to pay popped up.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: John_AHA on February 10, 2016, 04:48:11 PM
Hi Everyone,
Just to clarify the confusion on here, the shipping dates are still 2.29.2016 to 3.9.2016
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on February 10, 2016, 04:51:01 PM
Stephen, to answer your question I edited then paid but hadn't tried to go back in to edit more.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: John_AHA on February 10, 2016, 05:18:06 PM
Stephen and HoosierBrew,
You have the ability to edit your entries up until the shipping deadline, March 9.
Remember if you edit your entries to reprint your labels when you ship your beer.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on February 10, 2016, 05:18:55 PM
Thank you !
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on February 10, 2016, 05:56:49 PM
Thanks John and Jon.

John - Did you get my email with the screenshot?  I'm guessing that's where all the confusion was coming from. 

Now...of to pay for my entries so I can accept that Ninkaski ;)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: John_AHA on February 10, 2016, 06:06:29 PM
theDarkSide,
I did, and we've changed those dates to reflect the dates of 2016. We've also changed the typo in the "Entry Info" page under the headline "Per Entrant Limits" from four (4) to five (5).
Good luck!!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Janis on February 10, 2016, 06:19:58 PM
Edited and paid up for Indy.  Nice to get to hand carry to your LHBS.   8)

Now that you paid, can you still edit them?

Yes, you may edit until the end of the day on the shipping deadline, March 9, 2016.  Be sure to reprint your labels after editing.

Cheers,
Janis
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on February 10, 2016, 06:47:58 PM
I was mildly surprised to get 5 entries.  Wonder why interest is down.  Hopefully people have taken "send your best/get feedback elsewhere" to heart.

Good luck to everyone.
Cheers--
--Michael
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: cytorunner on February 10, 2016, 06:52:26 PM
Are different emails are sent for different site? I haven't received an email for Philly.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on February 10, 2016, 07:30:10 PM
I was mildly surprised to get 5 entries.  Wonder why interest is down.  Hopefully people have taken "send your best/get feedback elsewhere" to heart.

Good luck to everyone.
Cheers--
--Michael

Did you judge last year?  Maybe you get an extra one for that.

I wonder after Friday if there are people who don't pay, will they open the slots up for others to enter additional beers?

P.S.  Are the results posted yet?  :P  Sorry...just had to do it
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ncbrewer on February 10, 2016, 08:57:10 PM
Are different emails are sent for different site? I haven't received an email for Philly.

Jim/Cytorunner,

The e-mail I received said registration notices are being sent staggered. I assume to ease any strain on the servers. That may not be the case when conference registration opens. I'll forward you the e-mail I received.


Steve   
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on February 10, 2016, 09:36:31 PM
I was mildly surprised to get 5 entries.  Wonder why interest is down.  Hopefully people have taken "send your best/get feedback elsewhere" to heart.

I think that the hoops you have to jump through cause some degree of discouragement.  Much like how since registration to attend the conference has hoops, it doesn't instantly sell out.  I'm actually considering doing a 6th beer to have just in case they come back and bump it up again like last year.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on February 10, 2016, 10:50:05 PM
I'm actually considering doing a 6th beer to have just in case they come back and bump it up again like last year.


Same here.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tesgüino on February 11, 2016, 01:20:55 AM
Not seeing any email. Is there a place to check to verify if you got in or not? Or are they still sending out notifications and I should be patient?
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: cytorunner on February 11, 2016, 01:45:03 AM
Not seeing any email. Is there a place to check to verify if you got in or not? Or are they still sending out notifications and I should be patient?

So I'm not the only one; it appears they are staggering the emails to not overwhelm the servers. I'd give it another day then check with the NHC/Janis.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on February 11, 2016, 01:44:26 PM
This is from the email I got

"Entrant notifications are being sent in staggered groups, but if a large number of entrants are attempting to access the software at the same time you may experience slow speeds. If this is the case, you may come back later to finish your entry payment, so long as it is completed by the deadline of 11:59 PM Eastern Standard time on Friday, February 12."
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: AmandaK on February 11, 2016, 01:47:47 PM
I'm actually considering doing a 6th beer to have just in case they come back and bump it up again like last year.

Same here.

Already ahead of ya.  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: fmader on February 11, 2016, 01:50:45 PM
This is from the email I got

"Entrant notifications are being sent in staggered groups, but if a large number of entrants are attempting to access the software at the same time you may experience slow speeds. If this is the case, you may come back later to finish your entry payment, so long as it is completed by the deadline of 11:59 PM Eastern Standard time on Friday, February 12."

I believe the 12th is your deadline. If I remember correctly when we registered, we were told that we would be notified by the 16th. I've been notified, but it still may take a few more days.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on February 11, 2016, 03:39:12 PM
I'm actually considering doing a 6th beer to have just in case they come back and bump it up again like last year.

Same here.

Already ahead of ya.  ;)

ugh, you're gonna beat me with my own recipe, aren't you...
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: AmandaK on February 11, 2016, 03:46:11 PM


Already ahead of ya.  ;)

ugh, you're gonna beat me with my own recipe, aren't you...

Well, if it makes you feel any better yours is better than mine turned out IMO. I still need to tune your recipe to the Z, since I used nearly the exact %s you had. Came out a touch too chocolatey for me to consider the recipe "un-tweakabke". We will see how it does at KCBM next week.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: narcout on February 11, 2016, 05:05:47 PM
I was mildly surprised to get 5 entries.  Wonder why interest is down.

Personally, the calendar just got away from me.  I don't have as many entries ready as I was planning on.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 11, 2016, 05:38:45 PM
Four in at Indy. Not going to waste any more money than that, based on my showing the last 2 years.

Two are tasting pretty good. The third is carbonating, but the first sip was good. The fourth I am not sure about yet, so I am brewing a Bitter just in case I need a better fourth entry.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on February 11, 2016, 05:41:38 PM
I was mildly surprised to get 5 entries.  Wonder why interest is down.

Personally, the calendar just got away from me.  I don't have as many entries ready as I was planning on.

yeah, it happens.  With what's going on in my life I haven't brewed even 1/4 as much as I did in recent years.  ...But I've got every single BJCP style of cider and mead in my basement, so I could take as many extra entries as they want to give.  ;D 

I'm in Indy too Jeff...I suspect it'll be tough sledding there but after a recent STL trip I felt better about the Indy judge pool.

good luck--
--Michael
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 11, 2016, 05:53:41 PM
I was mildly surprised to get 5 entries.  Wonder why interest is down.

Personally, the calendar just got away from me.  I don't have as many entries ready as I was planning on.

yeah, it happens.  With what's going on in my life I haven't brewed even 1/4 as much as I did in recent years.  ...But I've got every single BJCP style of cider and mead in my basement, so I could take as many extra entries as they want to give.  ;D 

I'm in Indy too Jeff...I suspect it'll be tough sledding there but after a recent STL trip I felt better about the Indy judge pool.

good luck--
--Michael
Indy was good to us in the past. Will see, as it keeps getting harder. Just beer for me this year.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on February 11, 2016, 06:48:48 PM
Signed up, paid, volunteered to judge, reserved room, printed labels. Woo hoo!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on February 11, 2016, 06:56:35 PM

I'm in Indy too Jeff...I suspect it'll be tough sledding there but after a recent STL trip I felt better about the Indy judge pool.

good luck--
--Michael

Great...mine are going to St. Louis  ::)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 11, 2016, 07:06:36 PM
Susan will steward, I will judge at Indy. We are there a few nights, that also gives me chance to see one of my brothers - and to stop at Claus's Market for some German style meats.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on February 11, 2016, 07:20:45 PM
and to stop at Claus's Market for some German style meats.


Amen to that. Awesome stuff !
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: fmader on February 11, 2016, 10:54:34 PM
Susan will steward, I will judge at Indy. We are there a few nights, that also gives me chance to see one of my brothers - and to stop at Claus's Market for some German style meats.

What dates does judging partake in Indy?
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: hopfenundmalz on February 12, 2016, 01:07:45 AM
Susan will steward, I will judge at Indy. We are there a few nights, that also gives me chance to see one of my brothers - and to stop at Claus's Market for some German style meats.

What dates does judging partake in Indy?
March 11-12.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on February 12, 2016, 07:52:04 PM
Susan will steward, I will judge at Indy. We are there a few nights, that also gives me chance to see one of my brothers - and to stop at Claus's Market for some German style meats.

What dates does judging partake in Indy?
March 11-12.

Got 5 entries into Indy as well.  I am pretty impressed that they will be able to get everything organized and ready to judge in just 2 days as the final delivery date is 3/9.  Good luck to all!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tesgüino on February 19, 2016, 12:46:39 PM
If I understand it right, I can enter multiple subcategories within a category. Just not the same subcategory? So, all other things being equal, would it improve my chances of moving at least one beer forward by keeping all entries in one category or by spreading them out.

Not that I have the beers to do this with. Just curious how the math works out.

Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on February 19, 2016, 01:14:11 PM
Depends...  if you only want Gold medals, then only enter one per Cat.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on February 19, 2016, 01:50:53 PM
If I understand it right, I can enter multiple subcategories within a category. Just not the same subcategory? So, all other things being equal, would it improve my chances of moving at least one beer forward by keeping all entries in one category or by spreading them out.

Not that I have the beers to do this with. Just curious how the math works out.

In my experience, you have a better chance of spreading out your entries into different categories. Obviously some categories are very entry heavy and difficult to advance in (looking at you Stouts, IPA's, Belgians, Specialty, etc). While others are not as entry laden and a bit easier to medal in. But keep in mind, these categories change from year to year and from judging site to judging site. What might be a heavy category at one judge site, might be light(er) in another.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Joe Sr. on March 08, 2016, 09:02:29 PM
Just got my bottles delivered to the Chicago judging site (which is NOT in Chicago, BTW).

Woot!

UPS got it delivered in 24 hours.

Good luck to everyone.  I'll need it as all of my entries are in the aforementioned categories (stouts and Belgians).
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on March 10, 2016, 12:36:16 AM
Hmm, mine still showing as on the truck, and the delivery location closed 30m ago.  ::)

Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ranchovillabrew on March 10, 2016, 12:53:20 AM
Dropped mine off at ballast point this afternoon

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Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on March 10, 2016, 09:56:32 PM
Hmm, mine still showing as on the truck, and the delivery location closed 30m ago.  ::)

Mine showed that way until really late last night.  They had actually been delivered at 1:30pm.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on March 13, 2016, 05:08:08 PM
Mine got delivered on time, but (as is my luck) 3 of my 5 entries each had one bottle issue leaving only one bottle to be judged for each of the three. The other 2 entries were totally fine. 2 were leaking and one broke!  I ship all over for comps and have not had this happen in a long time.  Thanks a lot UPS....Not much I can do, but hope they showed well in Indy.  Only time will tell. The only way I will truly be affected is if those entries make it to the mini-BOS and the second bottle is needed.  Doh! I am jealous for those of you that could just drop off your entries instead of shipping them.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on March 14, 2016, 12:29:50 PM
I am jealous for those of you that could just drop off your entries instead of shipping them.

There will be a lot of complaints over the next month about "unfair advantage" in early regions, but what you mentioned would be worth way more to me than more time to re-brew
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: mtnsoul on March 14, 2016, 12:54:12 PM
I think the "early regions" offer only an advantage to IPAs but even that isn't awful since the later sites' IPA examples are compared against each other so they're all evenly aged.


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Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on March 14, 2016, 01:15:25 PM
I think the "early regions" offer only an advantage to IPAs but even that isn't awful since the later sites' IPA examples are compared against each other so they're all evenly aged.


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The big argument every year is the earlier regions get their results sooner so they can rebrew if necessary.  The later regions don't have that ability sometimes since they may not find out the results until a week or two before the finals shipping deadline.  I think it's just something you have to deal with, but people can always submit their entries to an earlier region if they wanted too.

All my entries require aging so rebrewing isn't an issue for me.

Did I read somewhere that the results would be posted within a week of the region's judging and not all at once like previous years?  I thought I read that somewhere but can't seem to find it anywhere.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 14, 2016, 01:39:58 PM
I think the "early regions" offer only an advantage to IPAs but even that isn't awful since the later sites' IPA examples are compared against each other so they're all evenly aged.


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The big argument every year is the earlier regions get their results sooner so they can rebrew if necessary.  The later regions don't have that ability sometimes since they may not find out the results until a week or two before the finals shipping deadline.  I think it's just something you have to deal with, but people can always submit their entries to an earlier region if they wanted too.

All my entries require aging so rebrewing isn't an issue for me.

Did I read somewhere that the results would be posted within a week of the region's judging and not all at once like previous years?  I thought I read that somewhere but can't seem to find it anywhere.
That was said by the AHA.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: AlexC on March 14, 2016, 04:55:05 PM
I think the "early regions" offer only an advantage to IPAs but even that isn't awful since the later sites' IPA examples are compared against each other so they're all evenly aged.


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The big argument every year is the earlier regions get their results sooner so they can rebrew if necessary.  The later regions don't have that ability sometimes since they may not find out the results until a week or two before the finals shipping deadline.  I think it's just something you have to deal with, but people can always submit their entries to an earlier region if they wanted too.

All my entries require aging so rebrewing isn't an issue for me.

Did I read somewhere that the results would be posted within a week of the region's judging and not all at once like previous years?  I thought I read that somewhere but can't seem to find it anywhere.
That was said by the AHA.
I was wondering this as well - this is my first comp.  I read that results would be posted as they come in, but I don't see Indianapolis posted yet, nothing on the "winners" page from this year yet either.
Is there an ETA for this that anyone with past comp experience can chime in with?
Also, score sheets are posted to the competition website, is that right?
Thanks
Title: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on March 14, 2016, 05:00:06 PM
I think the "early regions" offer only an advantage to IPAs but even that isn't awful since the later sites' IPA examples are compared against each other so they're all evenly aged.


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The big argument every year is the earlier regions get their results sooner so they can rebrew if necessary.  The later regions don't have that ability sometimes since they may not find out the results until a week or two before the finals shipping deadline.  I think it's just something you have to deal with, but people can always submit their entries to an earlier region if they wanted too.

All my entries require aging so rebrewing isn't an issue for me.

Did I read somewhere that the results would be posted within a week of the region's judging and not all at once like previous years?  I thought I read that somewhere but can't seem to find it anywhere.
That was said by the AHA.
I was wondering this as well - this is my first comp.  I read that results would be posted as they come in, but I don't see Indianapolis posted yet, nothing on the "winners" page from this year yet either.
Is there an ETA for this that anyone with past comp experience can chime in with?
Also, score sheets are posted to the competition website, is that right?
Thanks
The competition dates for the individual first round sites are in this calendar.

http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/aha-events/calendar/

Last year my results came a week or two after the regional competition judging date. I can't remember exactly. You definitely have to be patient. It's a slow process. They have thousands of entries to process.

PS. Here is info about posting results. It sounds the same as last year. Results are posted after the regional site completes judging and a national team verifies. Verification is slow because they are verifying all sites, probably, first come first serve.

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/competitions/national-homebrew-competition/national-homebrew-competition-faq/#results
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dsmitch19 on March 14, 2016, 05:15:53 PM
I was wondering this as well - this is my first comp.  I read that results would be posted as they come in, but I don't see Indianapolis posted yet, nothing on the "winners" page from this year yet either.
Is there an ETA for this that anyone with past comp experience can chime in with?
Also, score sheets are posted to the competition website, is that right?

Thanks

Just the results are posted online. The scoresheets are mailed out and not scanned. It varies by region, but it seems 2-3 weeks is average for score sheets to arrive in the mail.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on March 14, 2016, 05:21:01 PM
I was wondering this as well - this is my first comp.  I read that results would be posted as they come in, but I don't see Indianapolis posted yet, nothing on the "winners" page from this year yet either.
Is there an ETA for this that anyone with past comp experience can chime in with?
Also, score sheets are posted to the competition website, is that right?

Thanks

Just the results are posted online. The scoresheets are mailed out and not scanned. It varies by region, but it seems 2-3 weeks is average for score sheets to arrive in the mail.

I'm hoping for some consistency this year.  In past year, some regions mailed their sheets out and others (where I entered) didn't until all the results were posted.

If the AHA is going to post the results as soon as a region is verified, that would be great.  If not, I'm sure we'll all survive. 

Either way, I'm sure Janis looks forward to this time of the year, every year! :)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: santoch on March 14, 2016, 05:36:02 PM
I've been the judge director for Seattle region several times, but it's been a couple years since I did it last. Even if they post the results right away, I don't think its an advantage, and here's why:

The styles that need to be rebrewed need to be rebrewed.  Period.  I've seen a LOT of 30-34 point 2nd round beers because the entrant didn't rebrew.  We can tell.  Trust me.

The entrants are only entering a max of 6 beers.  That is a lot but isn't so much that it's impossible. The rebrew dates for all entries should be set ahead of time, which may or may not be after the notification date, depending on the styles.  The worst thing that can happen if you rebrew without knowing if you advanced is that you won't have to mail them in.  You'll have a fresh batch of a style that is best served fresh anyways.  You could send it in to another comp, or bring it to club night, or bring it to your friend's kid's graduation party, or drink it yourself, or a hundred other things.

Oh, and don't expect a lot of great actionable feedback that you could apply to your advancing beer.  You'll get better feedback at local comps and from the guys in your home brew club.  At NHC, with the check box score sheets, we are really only documenting what is there and not offering a ton of feedback.  Its sheet is too brief and there are too many beers to judge to provide really full, expressive feedback.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 14, 2016, 05:41:34 PM
The AHA sends personnel working on the Competition to several first round sites. Janis Gross and John Morehead were at The Indy First round site. Give them time to get back into the routine in Boulder.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dkfick on March 14, 2016, 08:08:44 PM
I've been the judge director for Seattle region several times, but it's been a couple years since I did it last. Even if they post the results right away, I don't think its an advantage, and here's why:

The styles that need to be rebrewed need to be rebrewed.  Period.  I've seen a LOT of 30-34 point 2nd round beers because the entrant didn't rebrew.  We can tell.  Trust me.

The entrants are only entering a max of 6 beers.  That is a lot but isn't so much that it's impossible. The rebrew dates for all entries should be set ahead of time, which may or may not be after the notification date, depending on the styles.  The worst thing that can happen if you rebrew without knowing if you advanced is that you won't have to mail them in.  You'll have a fresh batch of a style that is best served fresh anyways.  You could send it in to another comp, or bring it to club night, or bring it to your friend's kid's graduation party, or drink it yourself, or a hundred other things.

Oh, and don't expect a lot of great actionable feedback that you could apply to your advancing beer.  You'll get better feedback at local comps and from the guys in your home brew club.  At NHC, with the check box score sheets, we are really only documenting what is there and not offering a ton of feedback.  Its sheet is too brief and there are too many beers to judge to provide really full, expressive feedback.
What you're missing about the rebrewing isn't that the beer needs to be rebrewed to score well in the second time.  I think a lot of entrants get that (not all lol.)  The issue is people don't want to rebrew the same style they just had if it isn't necessary... That's where you see people that got results late and didn't rebrew even if they wanted to.

I think the fairest option would be to post all results at the same time.  I don't think I have much of an issue with results being posted on a first come first serve though as long as the dates of the 1st round judging sites are posted ahead of registration... Which I think they were the past couple of years.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dkfick on March 14, 2016, 08:09:22 PM
I also see it as a catch22... If they wait until all the sites are done judging there will be endless complaining about the results not being posted lol.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on March 14, 2016, 08:13:06 PM
Indy is being verified.  Which IME with NHC, can take at least a few days.  It is still exciting either way.  As for the rebrew, people will either do it or not depending on the styles they entered.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: braufessor on March 15, 2016, 12:14:59 AM
Mine are at St. Louis this coming weekend.... already rebrewed 1 and will rebrew 2 more this next weekend before I know how any of them did.  They are lagers and I knew it would be something I would need to do.  But, a couple of them are good summer beers, so I don't mind having more on hand.  My other two I can wait on though for results.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on March 15, 2016, 01:06:11 AM
Rebrewing sounds like a perfect job for Picobrew Zymatic.

I am dumb and held back only 2 bottles of each beer. I think I will have time to rebrew if needed since the beers don't need to arrive until May 25.

Of course I doubt I'll make 2nd round anyway.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 15, 2016, 03:34:49 AM
Mine are at St. Louis this coming weekend.... already rebrewed 1 and will rebrew 2 more this next weekend before I know how any of them did.  They are lagers and I knew it would be something I would need to do.  But, a couple of them are good summer beers, so I don't mind having more on hand.  My other two I can wait on though for results.
My lagers were just ready for Indy, and if any were to move on, they would go back to -1C.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: morticaixavier on March 15, 2016, 04:42:16 PM
I've got to rebrew one of mine because I only had enough to send to the first round. It probably won't advance but my wife is clamouring for it anyway so it's on the schedule. It's a partigyle to so I get  a second runnings beer that I can do something different with.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: AlexC on March 15, 2016, 05:04:19 PM
For anyone wondering, they did send an email out letting us know the timeline and process. FYI:
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Thanks for participating in the 2016 NHC Indianapolis First Round competition! The judging for your competition has concluded and the results are being verified by the AHA. You can anticipate about a week or longer for verification to be complete.

You will be notified again by email when the results from your competition are posted on the Winners page of the AHA website.

After all 12 First Round competitions are complete, your results—with a downloadable letter and any certificates earned by your entries’ scores—will be available in your record on the competition site. You will receive an email telling you when you can log into your record for this information.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on March 15, 2016, 05:08:56 PM
Yep.  Just got that email too.  Thanks for updating.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ethinson on March 15, 2016, 06:10:48 PM
I've got to rebrew one of mine because I only had enough to send to the first round. It probably won't advance but my wife is clamouring for it anyway so it's on the schedule. It's a partigyle to so I get  a second runnings beer that I can do something different with.

I kept back enough to hold and send on, but I've already rebrewed one of mine for another comp, and the same reason as you, the wife declares we must have it in stock at all times.  I've made 3 batches already this year.  I sent four on, but I'll only have a chance to rebrew one of them, so I'll wait to see what (if any) move on.  It's already too warm to redo the Cal Common, so that one will just have to do as is.  If the IPA advances that's what I'll rebrew so it's fresh. 

Mine are getting judged in Seattle this weekend, but I dropped them off a couple weeks ago so I'm already anxiously awaiting results that haven't even been judged yet.  Bracing myself for another 2 weeks...
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dkfick on March 15, 2016, 09:00:43 PM
Mine were judged in indy last weekend,  nothing to rebrew though.  Half of them were like 2-5 year old beers .
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: santoch on March 15, 2016, 11:16:03 PM
Mine are getting judged in Seattle this weekend, but I dropped them off a couple weeks ago so I'm already anxiously awaiting results that haven't even been judged yet.  Bracing myself for another 2 weeks...

Come on up and give us a hand!  We can ALWAYS use more stewards (and judges if you are so inclined).
I guarantee you'll have a good time.  Ask around -- Jason Barker and Ted Assur can probably hook you up with a ride.

Steve
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ethinson on March 16, 2016, 06:09:39 PM
Mine are getting judged in Seattle this weekend, but I dropped them off a couple weeks ago so I'm already anxiously awaiting results that haven't even been judged yet.  Bracing myself for another 2 weeks...

Come on up and give us a hand!  We can ALWAYS use more stewards (and judges if you are so inclined).
I guarantee you'll have a good time.  Ask around -- Jason Barker and Ted Assur can probably hook you up with a ride.

Steve

Hey Steve,

I did seriously consider it, but ended up having some other commitments for this weekend.  Maybe next year! I heard it's a great opportunity to be around a lot of experienced judges.

I don't think Ted will be coming this year since he lives in Vermont now, but I could be wrong! I know Jim Thompson is coming up from the OBC.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: santoch on March 17, 2016, 08:11:09 PM
Wow- I didn't know Ted moved.

Hope you'll get a chance to help out.  I think it is something all entrants should do at least once.  They'll get a good appreciation for how comps really work and the amount of effort it takes to pull one off.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on March 18, 2016, 05:27:11 PM
Well so much for winning all 4 major awards. I guess everyone makes Pils now.   :-\
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on March 18, 2016, 05:40:45 PM
Well so much for winning all 4 major awards. I guess everyone makes Pils now.   :-\

Nice work on the ciders and mead.  Mine are being judged this weekend.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 20, 2016, 11:05:26 PM
Terri and I had a blast this weekend at NHC1 Seattle! Very well organized! They fed us Friday night, and twice Saturday, and there were grab bags to take home! I got a cool Black Raven shirt, some Cascade Blonde candy syrup, and some keg cleaning tablets!

Friday I was lead at my table and did 10 APAs, then sat at mini-BOS with Ted Hausotter. He even let me pick the winner, lol. Well, probably I got lucky.

Afterwards, I cracked a bomber of my Munich Helles and Dort with a group of GMs and had fun learning

Saturday morning I was lead at IPA (english, IIPA, specialty) and sat at min-BOS with Steve Antoch. We picked a CDA as 1st

That afternoon I was junior to a Master judge Trevor Nichol if I recall correctly. We cranked out 12 Porters and then we got oit of Dodge.

Fantastic experience! Thanks to everyone who put this together and who got me into judging!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: golfgod04 on March 23, 2016, 01:24:02 PM
hope the results from STL come in soon
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on March 23, 2016, 02:15:14 PM
hope the results from STL come in soon

Got my email yesterday saying the comp was completed and they needed to verify results.  I'm hoping for Friday, but the Indy results didn't some out until last Friday and it was the only comp that week.  This past weekend, there were 3 regions judging so it may take longer.  Hopefully STL will be verified first, but knowing those Seattle guys, the AHA probably had all the Seattle info 10 minutes after judging completed ;)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: golfgod04 on March 23, 2016, 03:08:58 PM
oh ya, got the email last night too.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ethinson on March 23, 2016, 06:07:37 PM

Saturday morning I was lead at IPA (english, IIPA, specialty) and sat at min-BOS with Steve Antoch. We picked a CDA as 1st

Fantastic experience! Thanks to everyone who put this together and who got me into judging!

Thanks for judging!

I was already super anxious for the results to come back, and even knowing it's unlikely that it's my CDA that got picked, this just amps up the nerves another notch!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 23, 2016, 10:04:05 PM

Saturday morning I was lead at IPA (english, IIPA, specialty) and sat at min-BOS with Steve Antoch. We picked a CDA as 1st

Fantastic experience! Thanks to everyone who put this together and who got me into judging!

Thanks for judging!

I was already super anxious for the results to come back, and even knowing it's unlikely that it's my CDA that got picked, this just amps up the nerves another notch!
Oh how cool would that be?! My hedonistic summary of that CDA is that it immediately reminds me of Saquatch habitat.  Very interesting and pleasant cedar-earthy thing going on, and the roast kind of reminds me of his camp fire, lol. It was a fun and tastey beer. If its yours, congrats!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on March 25, 2016, 03:18:11 PM
NY, Seattle and STL results posted.

Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on March 25, 2016, 04:31:08 PM
NY, Seattle and STL results posted.

Bring it, Mr Worst Of All Condiments!   8)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on March 25, 2016, 04:37:41 PM
Bring it, Mr Worst Of All Condiments!   8)

Just like KCBM a couple years ago!! Good luck with 2nd place :P

I got 4 out of 4 this year...man I love you guys in the middle of the country!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on March 25, 2016, 04:49:52 PM
Bring it, Mr Worst Of All Condiments!   8)

Just like KCBM a couple years ago!! Good luck with 2nd place :P

I got 4 out of 4 this year...man I love you guys in the middle of the country!

Gary Awdey ran out of time to send his paid-for cider to STL, or you would have just been schooled.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ethinson on March 25, 2016, 06:05:57 PM

Saturday morning I was lead at IPA (english, IIPA, specialty) and sat at min-BOS with Steve Antoch. We picked a CDA as 1st

Fantastic experience! Thanks to everyone who put this together and who got me into judging!

Thanks for judging!

I was already super anxious for the results to come back, and even knowing it's unlikely that it's my CDA that got picked, this just amps up the nerves another notch!
Oh how cool would that be?! My hedonistic summary of that CDA is that it immediately reminds me of Saquatch habitat.  Very interesting and pleasant cedar-earthy thing going on, and the roast kind of reminds me of his camp fire, lol. It was a fun and tastey beer. If its yours, congrats!

Welp, turns out it wasn't mine, but it was fun hoping!

Congrats to all who advanced.  All for of my categories had 20+ entries, both of the IPA groups were over 30.  Tough competition.  Best of the best!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: santoch on March 25, 2016, 07:52:22 PM
Congrats to all who advanced
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 25, 2016, 08:30:43 PM
Congrats to all who advanced
Just saw the results! Yee haw! Thats a huge milestone for me!
Thanks to a lot of you guys for all the help. Especially Jon, Hoosierbrew, who specifically helped with this beer
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 25, 2016, 08:33:58 PM
Congrats to all who advanced
Just saw the results! Yee haw! Thats a huge milestone for me!
Thanks to a lot of you guys for all the help. Especially Jon, Hoosierbrew, who specifically helped with this beer


Awesome, Jim! Was that the American Stout?
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 25, 2016, 10:01:50 PM
Congrats to all who advanced
Just saw the results! Yee haw! Thats a huge milestone for me!
Thanks to a lot of you guys for all the help. Especially Jon, Hoosierbrew, who specifically helped with this beer


Awesome, Jim! Was that the American Stout?
Yup! Its a bit surreal still lol
Congrats to all who advanced
Just saw the results! Yee haw! Thats a huge milestone for me!
Thanks to a lot of you guys for all the help. Especially Jon, Hoosierbrew, who specifically helped with this beer


Awesome, Jim! Was that the American Stout?
Yup! Its a bit surreal still lol
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 25, 2016, 10:03:54 PM
Very cool, Jim. It's all about the execution. Kudos !
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on March 25, 2016, 10:10:18 PM
Congrats to all who advanced
Just saw the results! Yee haw! Thats a huge milestone for me!
Thanks to a lot of you guys for all the help. Especially Jon, Hoosierbrew, who specifically helped with this beer


Awesome, Jim! Was that the American Stout?
Yup! Its a bit surreal still lol
Congrats to all who advanced
Just saw the results! Yee haw! Thats a huge milestone for me!
Thanks to a lot of you guys for all the help. Especially Jon, Hoosierbrew, who specifically helped with this beer


Awesome, Jim! Was that the American Stout?
Yup! Its a bit surreal still lol
Congratulations! That's awesome.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on March 25, 2016, 10:10:26 PM
Congrats to all who advanced
Just saw the results! Yee haw! Thats a huge milestone for me!
Thanks to a lot of you guys for all the help. Especially Jon, Hoosierbrew, who specifically helped with this beer


Awesome, Jim! Was that the American Stout?
Yup! Its a bit surreal still lol
Congrats to all who advanced
Just saw the results! Yee haw! Thats a huge milestone for me!
Thanks to a lot of you guys for all the help. Especially Jon, Hoosierbrew, who specifically helped with this beer


Awesome, Jim! Was that the American Stout?
Yup! Its a bit surreal still lol
Congratulations! That's awesome.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on March 25, 2016, 10:11:16 PM
Awesome, Jim! Was that the American Stout?
Yup! Its a bit surreal still lol
Congratulations! That's awesome.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on March 25, 2016, 10:11:40 PM
Congratulations, Jim! Good work.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 25, 2016, 11:38:08 PM
I'm stoked!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on March 26, 2016, 08:38:26 PM
Nicely done Jim, and Darkside, you CRUSHED IT!!!  4/4 is incredible.  Looking forward to see what everyone's scores are like. Congratulations!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 27, 2016, 12:07:02 AM
Nicely done Jim, and Darkside, you CRUSHED IT!!!  4/4 is incredible.  Looking forward to see what everyone's scores are like. Congratulations!
Thanks! I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 27, 2016, 01:57:35 AM
I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL


Not meaningless at all. It's never a lock to move one on, even when the beer's really good. Always feels good. I'm in a slump. gotta bust out next year !
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: hopfenundmalz on March 27, 2016, 02:06:38 AM
I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL


Not meaningless at all. It's never a lock to move one on, even when the beer's really good. Always feels good. I'm in a slump. gotta bust out next year !
I know a couple guys won a gold medal with a third place first round beer.

I have been in a long slump, but there is next year.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 27, 2016, 02:18:31 AM
I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL


Not meaningless at all. It's never a lock to move one on, even when the beer's really good. Always feels good. I'm in a slump. gotta bust out next year !
I know a couple guys won a gold medal with a third place first round beer.

I have been in a long slump, but there is next year.
Oh, way to put the stress on!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Joe Sr. on March 27, 2016, 02:45:02 AM
Nicely done Jim, and Darkside, you CRUSHED IT!!!  4/4 is incredible.  Looking forward to see what everyone's scores are like. Congratulations!
Thanks! I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL

If moving on is meaningless, I don't know what to say.  Congrats to you.

I'm still pleased with my 1st round third place stout from last year, but hopeful for another one or two to advance this year.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 27, 2016, 02:59:56 AM
Nicely done Jim, and Darkside, you CRUSHED IT!!!  4/4 is incredible.  Looking forward to see what everyone's scores are like. Congratulations!
Thanks! I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL

If moving on is meaningless, I don't know what to say.  Congrats to you.

I'm still pleased with my 1st round third place stout from last year, but hopeful for another one or two to advance this year.
Maybe not meaningless, but I think we have some brewers here who go to finals routinely.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on March 27, 2016, 05:53:05 PM
Nicely done Jim, and Darkside, you CRUSHED IT!!!  4/4 is incredible.  Looking forward to see what everyone's scores are like. Congratulations!
Thanks! I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL

If moving on is meaningless, I don't know what to say.  Congrats to you.

I'm still pleased with my 1st round third place stout from last year, but hopeful for another one or two to advance this year.
Maybe not meaningless, but I think we have some brewers here who go to finals routinely.

Yes, but even getting into the final round routinely brings lots of disappointments. At least it has for me, for years. I look at it as a fun way to compete with some of the best brewers in the country and if I can get at least one beer through to the final round, then that makes it all the more exciting. 
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 27, 2016, 09:39:44 PM
Nicely done Jim, and Darkside, you CRUSHED IT!!!  4/4 is incredible.  Looking forward to see what everyone's scores are like. Congratulations!
Thanks! I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL

If moving on is meaningless, I don't know what to say.  Congrats to you.

I'm still pleased with my 1st round third place stout from last year, but hopeful for another one or two to advance this year.
Maybe not meaningless, but I think we have some brewers here who go to finals routinely.

Yes, but even getting into the final round routinely brings lots of disappointments. At least it has for me, for years. I look at it as a fun way to compete with some of the best brewers in the country and if I can get at least one beer through to the final round, then that makes it all the more exciting.
For sure! Having one advance in a year that you can be there at the banquet would make it even more fun. Which Terri and I hope to do next year!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Pinski on March 28, 2016, 03:38:12 PM
Nicely done Jim, and Darkside, you CRUSHED IT!!!  4/4 is incredible.  Looking forward to see what everyone's scores are like. Congratulations!
Thanks! I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL

If moving on is meaningless, I don't know what to say.  Congrats to you.

I'm still pleased with my 1st round third place stout from last year, but hopeful for another one or two to advance this year.
Maybe not meaningless, but I think we have some brewers here who go to finals routinely.

Yes, but even getting into the final round routinely brings lots of disappointments. At least it has for me, for years. I look at it as a fun way to compete with some of the best brewers in the country and if I can get at least one beer through to the final round, then that makes it all the more exciting.
For sure! Having one advance in a year that you can be there at the banquet would make it even more fun. Which Terri and I hope to do next year!

Congratulations Jim!

I've got a 3rd place American Barleywine moving on with your Stout!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on March 28, 2016, 04:04:54 PM
For sure! Having one advance in a year that you can be there at the banquet would make it even more fun. Which Terri and I hope to do next year!

Next year should be a 'flyover' state year, I believe.  Fingers crossed that I get at least one through this year since I'm going to be in Baltimore.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 28, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
Nicely done Jim, and Darkside, you CRUSHED IT!!!  4/4 is incredible.  Looking forward to see what everyone's scores are like. Congratulations!
Thanks! I realize it's nearly meaningless to most brewers but it's a huge milestone to me. Next year I'll be all in LOL

If moving on is meaningless, I don't know what to say.  Congrats to you.

I'm still pleased with my 1st round third place stout from last year, but hopeful for another one or two to advance this year.
Maybe not meaningless, but I think we have some brewers here who go to finals routinely.

Yes, but even getting into the final round routinely brings lots of disappointments. At least it has for me, for years. I look at it as a fun way to compete with some of the best brewers in the country and if I can get at least one beer through to the final round, then that makes it all the more exciting.
For sure! Having one advance in a year that you can be there at the banquet would make it even more fun. Which Terri and I hope to do next year!

Congratulations Jim!

I've got a 3rd place American Barleywine moving on with your Stout!
Awesome!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 28, 2016, 09:33:48 PM
For sure! Having one advance in a year that you can be there at the banquet would make it even more fun. Which Terri and I hope to do next year!

Next year should be a 'flyover' state year, I believe.  Fingers crossed that I get at least one through this year since I'm going to be in Baltimore.
That's what I was thinking. Time will tell
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 28, 2016, 09:35:34 PM
Got scores in the mail today for Indy. The best was a 41 for my 30A cider.  I didn't move on, so there were clearly some great ciders here. Kudos to Michael and those who did !
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on March 28, 2016, 10:57:03 PM
Some okay scores for me.  Besides the old ale advancing, my biere de garde and vienna lager both went to mini-bos, but those were the bottles that busted in transit and they only had one to judge both rounds for.  Oh well, better luck next time.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: fmader on March 28, 2016, 11:37:03 PM
Got scores in the mail today for Indy. The best was a 41 for my 30A cider.  I didn't move on, so there were clearly some great ciders here. Kudos to Michael and those who did !

I didn't get mine yet. I've been anxious to see my scores. Maybe tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 29, 2016, 01:34:08 AM
Got mine today. Excellent score sheets. Both beers got judged by grand masters who both gave the higher score. I'm pleased and planning improvements already!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on March 29, 2016, 12:38:35 PM
Got scores in the mail today for Indy. The best was a 41 for my 30A cider.  I didn't move on, so there were clearly some great ciders here. Kudos to Michael and those who did !

Nice cider score; if you've got a spare $20 you might send the 3 bottles you would have sent to Finals to GLINTCAP instead. 
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 29, 2016, 12:40:48 PM
Got scores in the mail today for Indy. The best was a 41 for my 30A cider.  I didn't move on, so there were clearly some great ciders here. Kudos to Michael and those who did !

Nice cider score; if you've got a spare $20 you might send the 3 bottles you would have sent to Finals to GLINTCAP instead. 


I do and might well do that. Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on March 29, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
Got scores in the mail today for Indy. The best was a 41 for my 30A cider.  I didn't move on, so there were clearly some great ciders here. Kudos to Michael and those who did !

Nice cider score; if you've got a spare $20 you might send the 3 bottles you would have sent to Finals to GLINTCAP instead. 

I'll keep this in mind for next year.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Pinski on March 29, 2016, 04:14:15 PM
Got mine today. Excellent score sheets. Both beers got judged by grand masters who both gave the higher score. I'm pleased and planning improvements already!

Good to hear, excited to check the mailbox this evening. 
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on March 29, 2016, 05:12:45 PM
Got ours back, 3 good scores, 2 mediocre, 1 poor with comments like it was a different beer. And of course, the 2 mediocre scores advanced while 2/3 good scores didn't. It happens; looks like I've got some mead/cider blending and balancing to do.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on March 29, 2016, 05:40:52 PM
Got ours back, 3 good scores, 2 mediocre, 1 poor with comments like it was a different beer. And of course, the 2 mediocre scores advanced while 2/3 good scores didn't.

I also find that so very strange. Almost like the judging table was tough on the entries or the entries weren't that good?  Who knows?  My Old Ale which took a gold medal only earned a 36.5 with no indication that it even advanced (or had) a mini-bos. That is not that great...
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on March 29, 2016, 06:01:20 PM
Got ours back, 3 good scores, 2 mediocre, 1 poor with comments like it was a different beer. And of course, the 2 mediocre scores advanced while 2/3 good scores didn't.

I also find that so very strange. Almost like the judging table was tough on the entries or the entries weren't that good?  Who knows?  My Old Ale which took a gold medal only earned a 36.5 with no indication that it even advanced (or had) a mini-bos. That is not that great...

I'll take a gold with a 36.5 over a 42 with no placing anyday...:)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ethinson on March 29, 2016, 06:11:30 PM
Got ours back, 3 good scores, 2 mediocre, 1 poor with comments like it was a different beer. And of course, the 2 mediocre scores advanced while 2/3 good scores didn't.

I also find that so very strange. Almost like the judging table was tough on the entries or the entries weren't that good?  Who knows?  My Old Ale which took a gold medal only earned a 36.5 with no indication that it even advanced (or had) a mini-bos. That is not that great...

I'll take a gold with a 36.5 over a 42 with no placing anyday...:)

I totally agree with that... although I have to say I also have caught myself with a low scoring beer that medaled and feeling like I didn't "earn it".

I was pleasantly surprised to get scoresheets from Seattle yesterday.  My stout scored a 36.5 and DIDN'T advance, but in a 35 entry category that's not too surprising.  I'll need to look if it even went to mini-BOS but I don't think it did.  Solid scores for my IPA and CDA but not spectacular (28 for both) and my Cal Common didn't do well at all... too much age on it by the time it got there.  Oh well. 
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on March 29, 2016, 06:27:22 PM
Got ours back, 3 good scores, 2 mediocre, 1 poor with comments like it was a different beer. And of course, the 2 mediocre scores advanced while 2/3 good scores didn't.

I also find that so very strange. Almost like the judging table was tough on the entries or the entries weren't that good?  Who knows?  My Old Ale which took a gold medal only earned a 36.5 with no indication that it even advanced (or had) a mini-bos. That is not that great...

I'll take a gold with a 36.5 over a 42 with no placing anyday...:)

I totally agree with that... although I have to say I also have caught myself with a low scoring beer that medaled and feeling like I didn't "earn it".

I was pleasantly surprised to get scoresheets from Seattle yesterday.  My stout scored a 36.5 and DIDN'T advance, but in a 35 entry category that's not too surprising.  I'll need to look if it even went to mini-BOS but I don't think it did.  Solid scores for my IPA and CDA but not spectacular (28 for both) and my Cal Common didn't do well at all... too much age on it by the time it got there.  Oh well. 

I don't put too much stock in scores, unless it's something obvious.  Last year, I sent cider entries (same batch, bottled at the same time) to 2 separate comps, judging on the same day.  It won a gold in one comp (high 30's iirc) and a 23 in the other.  And the 42 I reference above was for a recent comp that didn't medal.  I guess there could have been 3 other entries higher than a 42, but it did go to a mini-BOS.

Oh well.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on March 29, 2016, 06:30:34 PM
Advanced 2 at 32. So as I said, mediocre, but then I've advanced with 33 before and gotten the Silver in Finals. And I do tend to make styles where a sizeable number of judges struggle.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on March 29, 2016, 09:22:22 PM
After writing my email on about 30 score sheets that weekend, I decided that from now on I'm sending a short thank you note to the emails on my entries. I'll bet they dont hear that enough. I got very nice responses from all four. A little niceness goes a long way.

Scoring wise, I've had 42s on a Scottish in the past that didn't go to minibos. Highest rank on those was certified. This year my high score on the saison bret was a GM2 and 35, didn't advance. The Am Stout high score was a GM and it got a 38 and 3rd. So obviously it depends on overall quality of the flight. And to some extent the style. It could be assumed that brewers entering stouts and porters might tend to be fairly new. Where brewers entering bret beers might have a little experience.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: jeffy on March 29, 2016, 09:30:14 PM
I don't think I've ever got an email about a beer I judged in 21 years.  That's nice, Jim, that you decided to write thank you notes.
Many years ago I got a gold in the finals at NHC with a beer that scored 34.  I felt like that can't be right, so I called the judge and asked him about it.  He said it deserved it.  That made me feel better.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on March 30, 2016, 03:42:32 PM
I've never received an email, but I have had a few people find me in person (a couple in my club for bad scores and a couple from other clubs in the state for good scores).  I don't have a problem with it in general, but in most cases, I either need to see the scoresheets or at least know the comments to have a chance of remembering the beer.  One of the bad ones, the guy quoted my OI comment, and I instantly remembered the beer in question.  Turned out that the beer had been made with a standard garden hose that chemically deteriorated in the middle of his brew day and leached plasticizers into 2 of his 3 bitters that he brewed today.  The good one was in a different flight, and I got the other 2, one of which only had a mild issue, but was still off.  The 3rd one of the day was straight up rubber-tasting.  He gave me a little of a hard time and then admitted he dumped the two batches as soon as he tasted them (but had already bottled and sent off the entries).
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on March 30, 2016, 03:50:49 PM
Got ours back, 3 good scores, 2 mediocre, 1 poor with comments like it was a different beer. And of course, the 2 mediocre scores advanced while 2/3 good scores didn't.

I also find that so very strange. Almost like the judging table was tough on the entries or the entries weren't that good?  Who knows?  My Old Ale which took a gold medal only earned a 36.5 with no indication that it even advanced (or had) a mini-bos. That is not that great...

I'll take a gold with a 36.5 over a 42 with no placing anyday...:)

Totally agree.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Pinski on March 30, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
I've never received an email, but I have had a few people find me in person (a couple in my club for bad scores and a couple from other clubs in the state for good scores).  I don't have a problem with it in general, but in most cases, I either need to see the scoresheets or at least know the comments to have a chance of remembering the beer.  One of the bad ones, the guy quoted my OI comment, and I instantly remembered the beer in question.  Turned out that the beer had been made with a standard garden hose that chemically deteriorated in the middle of his brew day and leached plasticizers into 2 of his 3 bitters that he brewed today.  The good one was in a different flight, and I got the other 2, one of which only had a mild issue, but was still off.  The 3rd one of the day was straight up rubber-tasting.  He gave me a little of a hard time and then admitted he dumped the two batches as soon as he tasted them (but had already bottled and sent off the entries).

Wow, if the guy entered a beer that tasted like a rubber hose because he didn't bother to taste it before he entered them in a competition, he certainly deserved some feedback.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on March 30, 2016, 04:17:53 PM
Wow, if the guy entered a beer that tasted like a rubber hose because he didn't bother to taste it before he entered them in a competition, he certainly deserved some feedback.

His bitters are normally excellent and had won medals in that competition before.  But yeah, I returned fire after finding that out.  lol
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Pinski on March 30, 2016, 04:51:26 PM
Wow, if the guy entered a beer that tasted like a rubber hose because he didn't bother to taste it before he entered them in a competition, he certainly deserved some feedback.

His bitters are normally excellent and had won medals in that competition before.  But yeah, I returned fire after finding that out.  lol

Good on ya!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ethinson on March 30, 2016, 06:13:13 PM

I totally agree with that... although I have to say I also have caught myself with a low scoring beer that medaled and feeling like I didn't "earn it".

I was pleasantly surprised to get scoresheets from Seattle yesterday.  My stout scored a 36.5 and DIDN'T advance, but in a 35 entry category that's not too surprising.  I'll need to look if it even went to mini-BOS but I don't think it did.  Solid scores for my IPA and CDA but not spectacular (28 for both) and my Cal Common didn't do well at all... too much age on it by the time it got there.  Oh well. 

I don't put too much stock in scores, unless it's something obvious.  Last year, I sent cider entries (same batch, bottled at the same time) to 2 separate comps, judging on the same day.  It won a gold in one comp (high 30's iirc) and a 23 in the other.  And the 42 I reference above was for a recent comp that didn't medal.  I guess there could have been 3 other entries higher than a 42, but it did go to a mini-BOS.

Oh well.

That's actually what happened to me with the one that felt undeserved, although it was actually the same beer in two categories of the same comp.  A local comp here has a few custom categories, one of which was New Brewer.  Last year was the only year I would have qualified (req was less than one year brewing) so I entered my beers in the New Brewer cat.  However, the custom categories would not have advanced to BOS and it would have been a hodgepodge of styles, so I entered the same beers in their standard categories to get feedback. 

My American Amber ended up scoring pretty well, like 35 points in the American Ales category but didn't medal, not surprising since that's a huge category, then it scored much lower, in the area of 26 points in the "New Brewer" category and ended up getting a medal as 3rd Place New Brewer.  Even though it had scored higher in it's correct category, the new brewer one felt like a *pat on the shoulder, awww thanks for trying* kinda thing.  I know that wasn't the intent at all, it was just hard for me not to think of it that way.  It was also my first medal ever, and I wanted to feel like I had "earned" it. 

It can be hard not to look at those scoring categories and see the difference between Good, Very Good and Excellent.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on March 30, 2016, 11:14:31 PM


Even though it had scored higher in it's correct category, the new brewer one felt like a *pat on the shoulder, awww thanks for trying* kinda thing.

That made me laugh. Hey at least you got your first medal!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Bill Bopp on April 01, 2016, 02:09:38 AM
Got ours back, 3 good scores, 2 mediocre, 1 poor with comments like it was a different beer. And of course, the 2 mediocre scores advanced while 2/3 good scores didn't.

I also find that so very strange. Almost like the judging table was tough on the entries or the entries weren't that good?  Who knows?  My Old Ale which took a gold medal only earned a 36.5 with no indication that it even advanced (or had) a mini-bos. That is not that great...

I'll take a gold with a 36.5 over a 42 with no placing anyday...:)

LOL...42.5 for my helles that didn't advance.  Oh well...more for me.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: hopfenundmalz on April 01, 2016, 02:20:50 AM
Mine was a 39, didn't get out of mini-BOS either. I was surprised it did that well.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on April 01, 2016, 12:27:44 PM
Rumor has it they are sorting the STL scoresheets this weekend so I expect I'll get mine next week.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on April 02, 2016, 02:25:48 AM
Talked to someone in Nashville; 80 Specialty entries in that region. Goodness. At some point I might enter such a monstrosity, just to ensure I don't have to judge it!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on April 05, 2016, 04:17:21 PM
There were a lot in Austin too, but I don't think there were that many.  It is still a bit sad that Nashville got the high-powered help they did and still didn't manage to finish this weekend.  They probably get the prize for the scariest beer I've ever seen, though.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: 69franx on April 05, 2016, 04:21:18 PM
There were a lot in Austin too, but I don't think there were that many.  It is still a bit sad that Nashville got the high-powered help they did and still didn't manage to finish this weekend.  They probably get the prize for the scariest beer I've ever seen, though.
What was the scary beer Toby? Just something really odd, or put together terribly? Guess I dont want anyone feeling put down, just curious
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on April 05, 2016, 05:02:03 PM
There were a lot in Austin too, but I don't think there were that many.  It is still a bit sad that Nashville got the high-powered help they did and still didn't manage to finish this weekend.  They probably get the prize for the scariest beer I've ever seen, though.

Far from ideal, but I know meads were taken to be judged by Mead Judges, which I'd prefer anyway. Sandy sure puts a lot of effort into making sure the first round goes smoothly doesn't she!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on April 05, 2016, 05:25:37 PM
What was the scary beer Toby? Just something really odd, or put together terribly? Guess I dont want anyone feeling put down, just curious

I'm not sure what it was supposed to be, but it was a green gusher that looked like it would have had kale or spinach as an ingredient.

Far from ideal, but I know meads were taken to be judged by Mead Judges, which I'd prefer anyway. Sandy sure puts a lot of effort into making sure the first round goes smoothly doesn't she!

Yeah, she was a trooper.  I'm pretty sure I have her beat on road time, though.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 05, 2016, 05:30:00 PM
I'm not sure what it was supposed to be, but it was a green gusher that looked like it would have had kale or spinach as an ingredient.



Wow, sorry I missed it.     :(


EDIT - So what was the intent, out of curiosity?
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: 69franx on April 05, 2016, 05:35:31 PM
I'm not sure what it was supposed to be, but it was a green gusher that looked like it would have had kale or spinach as an ingredient.



Wow, sorry I missed it.     :(


EDIT - So what was the intent, out of curiosity?

And I am glad that I did miss it. Also curious about intent
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on April 05, 2016, 06:03:36 PM
Intent was not revealed.  Only a few pictures I saw of the beer.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ncbrewer on April 05, 2016, 06:41:05 PM
I wonder if it was the same green beer I heard about at the Olde Hickory/Howard Pro-Am on 3/19. A couple of friends were judging it and if I recall correctly it was a Stout. It spewed all over the hand of the judge upon opening and was tough to scrub it off. They thought someone added green dye to make a "St Pat's Day Stout". They did not describe the character just the appearance of the gusher. 
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on April 05, 2016, 08:57:24 PM
I wonder if it was the same green beer I heard about at the Olde Hickory/Howard Pro-Am on 3/19. A couple of friends were judging it and if I recall correctly it was a Stout. It spewed all over the hand of the judge upon opening and was tough to scrub it off. They thought someone added green dye to make a "St Pat's Day Stout". They did not describe the character just the appearance of the gusher.

If it started to turn purple after it sat for a bit, it's probably the same one.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: 69franx on April 05, 2016, 10:19:00 PM
Ugh! Pass
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on April 09, 2016, 02:23:29 PM
78 Specialty in Denver last night. Minibos was quite a lot of work by itself; so much variety and Specialty info it becomes like a BOS
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on April 10, 2016, 12:51:28 AM
78 Specialty in Denver last night. Minibos was quite a lot of work by itself; so much variety and Specialty info it becomes like a BOS

Also, Denver is now completely done. Good luck to those who advanced.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: cytorunner on April 11, 2016, 06:51:43 PM
Anyone know if Nashville has finished?
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Janis on April 11, 2016, 07:15:43 PM
Hi Everyone,

Just FYI, Nashville is much closer to being done, but they still have some judging to do.  Thanks for your patience!

Cheers,
Janis
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: cytorunner on April 11, 2016, 07:20:21 PM
Anyone know if Nashville has finished?

Thank Janis.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: microbusbrew on April 15, 2016, 02:26:45 AM
78 Specialty in Denver last night. Minibos was quite a lot of work by itself; so much variety and Specialty info it becomes like a BOS

Dang, 78?!?!  There are entire comps that barely have that many entries.  Something has got to be done to break up the "Specialty" category more (like maybe actually use the 2015 guidelines???).  Of the posted results so far, the next closest category by average is IPAs at 35-ish.  Most are about a third of the number of entries in Specialty.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: efdbrian on April 15, 2016, 07:35:00 PM
Anyone know if Nashville has finished?

Thank Janis.

I'm waiting for them too. Logged into the competition site today and saw they added judging days for this week. Currently, the last one listed is tonight.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: wv_brewer on April 15, 2016, 07:55:26 PM
What are the shipping dates for the finals?  Got an American Porter through with a 41.  Stoked!!

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Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dsmitch19 on April 15, 2016, 08:13:17 PM
Results for San Diego and Philly are up. I have three beers advancing from SD...woot!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dsmitch19 on April 15, 2016, 08:13:55 PM
What are the shipping dates for the finals?  Got an American Porter through with a 41.  Stoked!!

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Congrats!

Final round shipping dates are in the competition page FAQs: May 18th and Friday, May 27, 2016.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on April 15, 2016, 08:24:34 PM
Results for San Diego and Philly are up. I have three beers advancing from SD...woot!

Then clearly you need to go on the Soper Tour if you're going to NHC.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: wv_brewer on April 15, 2016, 08:25:33 PM
What are the shipping dates for the finals?  Got an American Porter through with a 41.  Stoked!!

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Congrats!

Final round shipping dates are in the competition page FAQs: May 18th and Friday, May 27, 2016.
Great.   Thank you.

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Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dsmitch19 on April 15, 2016, 09:06:00 PM
Results for San Diego and Philly are up. I have three beers advancing from SD...woot!

Then clearly you need to go on the Soper Tour if you're going to NHC.

I'll be at NHC, but not sure about the Soper Tour yet. Depends on how a few things fall in my schedule. So much to cram into a few days!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on April 15, 2016, 09:17:18 PM
I'll be at NHC, but not sure about the Soper Tour yet. Depends on how a few things fall in my schedule. So much to cram into a few days!

Surely.  It's the way to Ninkasi though (if you listen to Soper lol)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: weimcity on April 17, 2016, 04:52:00 PM
Does anyone know if Nashville finished yet? 
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: jrspru on April 18, 2016, 12:49:49 AM
Does anyone know if Nashville finished yet?

Please say it's soon, need to either submit my remaining beers to other comps or package them up for NHC Baltimore.  Wish I would've known about the troubles in Nashville before choosing to submit there.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ranchovillabrew on April 18, 2016, 12:51:01 AM
No luck for me in San Diego this year.

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Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dsmitch19 on April 18, 2016, 05:04:49 PM
Does anyone know if Nashville finished yet?

Based on a post on their FB page, they are still trying to find more judges to wrap up on Tuesday. While I appreciate all the efforts of people in that region, hopefully another area with more judging capacity steps up next year.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: jvoeltz on April 18, 2016, 06:47:31 PM
I'll be at NHC, but not sure about the Soper Tour yet. Depends on how a few things fall in my schedule. So much to cram into a few days!

Surely.  It's the way to Ninkasi though (if you listen to Soper lol)

Well, 3 of the past 4 Ninkasi winners were on the SoperTour. ;)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: microbusbrew on April 18, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
Any word on when Denver results will be posted?  I was hoping last Friday but it didn't happen.  Crossing my fingers for today.

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Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: jeffy on April 18, 2016, 09:39:19 PM
I'll be at NHC, but not sure about the Soper Tour yet. Depends on how a few things fall in my schedule. So much to cram into a few days!

Surely.  It's the way to Ninkasi though (if you listen to Soper lol)

Well, 3 of the past 4 Ninkasi winners were on the SoperTour. ;)
Who or what is Soper and what is the tour about?
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on April 18, 2016, 10:28:35 PM
Does anyone know if Nashville finished yet?

Based on a post on their FB page, they are still trying to find more judges to wrap up on Tuesday. While I appreciate all the efforts of people in that region, hopefully another area with more judging capacity steps up next year.
Yikes! As one who has bitten off more than I can chew a time or two, I really feel for them.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: mchrispen on April 19, 2016, 12:56:51 AM
Shhhh. Don't give away the mojo! :)


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Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on April 19, 2016, 05:31:40 AM
Does anyone know if Nashville finished yet?

Based on a post on their FB page, they are still trying to find more judges to wrap up on Tuesday. While I appreciate all the efforts of people in that region, hopefully another area with more judging capacity steps up next year.
Yikes! As one who has bitten off more than I can chew a time or two, I really feel for them.
Yep. This has to be tough for the Nashville judges.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: dbarber on April 19, 2016, 01:18:46 PM
I'll be at NHC, but not sure about the Soper Tour yet. Depends on how a few things fall in my schedule. So much to cram into a few days!

Surely.  It's the way to Ninkasi though (if you listen to Soper lol)

Well, 3 of the past 4 Ninkasi winners were on the SoperTour. ;)
Who or what is Soper and what is the tour about?

I must be the 1 of the last 4, since I have no idea what the SoperTour is.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on April 19, 2016, 01:38:02 PM

 since I have no idea what the SoperTour is.

Me neither but it looks like a guy on Homebrewtalk that does bus tours at NHC.  I use to work with a Director of Security who's last name was Soper, but I doubt it's him.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: mchrispen on April 19, 2016, 02:54:29 PM
Yeah - Chris Soper. Well known on HBT, used to live here in Austin. Usually does a bus tour of area breweries at NHC. Usually has Jeremy V and Mark Schoppe on board. It's a good time for sure.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on April 19, 2016, 03:41:50 PM
Who or what is Soper and what is the tour about?

Soper's a guy who lived in Austin at one point and moved out to Arizona.  He usually tries to put together a little party bus tour of some local beer spots at NHC with some of the AZ/TX guys (I'm friends with a fair number of Zealots and met Soper that way, so I crashed the tour last year).  It's a fun time.  3 out of the last 4 Ninkasi winners went on the tour the year they won.  2 of those are Mark Schoppe from Austin and the other is Jeremy that pointed that out.  We'll see if the streak lives another year.  :)  I obviously can't help since I didn't have anything advance.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: taku74 on April 20, 2016, 03:25:24 AM
The What's Brewing @ the AHA e-mail newsletter says, "NHC First Round Competitions Finished". Hope that means results from the remaining sites will be posted soon.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: jrspru on April 20, 2016, 09:17:24 AM
Is it time to start getting pissed?  I know that group was left in the cold by judges that didn't show, but at this rate we'll find out we qualified, but missed the deadline to ship.

Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: klickitat jim on April 20, 2016, 09:54:46 AM
Is it time to start getting pissed?  I know that group was left in the cold by judges that didn't show, but at this rate we'll find out we qualified, but missed the deadline to ship.
I'm sure posting is a priority now for AHA. We will all get our shipping info together i'll bet
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: jbarrie on April 20, 2016, 03:37:54 PM
Nashville (finally) is up. Hopefully the site is moved to a place with more participating judges next year.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on April 20, 2016, 03:55:12 PM
Looks like all the regions have been posted.

81 in the Specialty Category in Nashville...WOW!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 20, 2016, 04:24:29 PM
Did not advance any this year.  Oh well.  Now I can drink it.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: udubdawg on April 20, 2016, 06:01:31 PM
The Finals flight for melomel is like a list of NHC Major Award winners. I should probably just drink mine.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Scot (one T) on April 20, 2016, 07:54:07 PM
The Finals flight for melomel is like a list of NHC Major Award winners. I should probably just drink mine.
Great idea....now get Fletty, Eibner,Tanner and all the others to follow suit.  I'll leaver mine in just for kicks:)
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: macbrews on April 20, 2016, 08:50:24 PM
The Finals flight for melomel is like a list of NHC Major Award winners. I should probably just drink mine.

If you do, send me the other 2!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: prospero on April 20, 2016, 09:16:08 PM
Looks like all the regions have been posted.

81 in the Specialty Category in Nashville...WOW!

I had the same reaction to 78 entries in Category 26 in Denver..... WOW is right.

I have to be honest somethings gotta change with these BJCP 2015 guidelines if this is going to continually happen.

Lager categories continually average 12-18 entries
IPA/American IPA have been separated and now average about 35 entries a piece (the irony is because the IPA category was getting too large)
Specialty categories average 55-81 entries across the board, with multiple sites seeing 70+.... that's ridiculous...

But alas, I got good feedback, so goal is accomplished for me.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: juggabrew303 on April 28, 2016, 03:45:53 AM
How much do tickets actually cost for NHC? Thinking of going next time it swings back to CO


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Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on April 28, 2016, 05:07:37 AM
My British Brown Ale scored 40 points and made mini-BOS! I am stoked!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: hopfenundmalz on April 28, 2016, 11:52:07 AM
How much do tickets actually cost for NHC? Thinking of going next time it swings back to CO


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The fees are listed in the HomebrewCon.org page.
http://www.homebrewcon.org/registration/registration-fees/

Getting there, staying there, eating there, and outside drinking there are at your discretion. Those can add up.

That being said, this will be #11 for me.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: MDixon on April 28, 2016, 01:34:00 PM
It may have already been mentioned, but when/how can we sign up to judge the finals in Baltimore.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: theDarkSide on April 28, 2016, 01:51:09 PM
It may have already been mentioned, but when/how can we sign up to judge the finals in Baltimore.

There's a link on this page to sign up to judge.

http://brewingcompetition.com/final/

It does take you to a screen to enter your information, but that's as far as I went.

Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ncbrewer on April 28, 2016, 02:12:18 PM
I just tried to register to judge the Final Round NHC and on submitting it requires an identification of a judging location, but there is no field for that information. I would rant about this software but I've been beat down by it too much.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: MDixon on April 28, 2016, 02:28:42 PM
I was able to get it to work:
https://brewingcompetition.com/FINAL/index.php?section=register&go=judge
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 28, 2016, 02:44:28 PM
My British Brown Ale scored 40 points and made mini-BOS! I am stoked!

Nice.  40 is a great score.  I topped out at 35.5 this year.  My top two scores were the same top two beers as last year, but no luck on advancing.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: toby on April 28, 2016, 02:55:16 PM
I was able to get it to work:
https://brewingcompetition.com/FINAL/index.php?section=register&go=judge

It works, but it doesn't.  It doesn't seem to save some of the information (specifically it didn't save my BJCP ID and would not allow me to select judging sessions).  A few days ago, the blurb on that section said that judge/steward sign-up would be live on May 9th.  I think they're still doing some behind the scenes setup.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: tommymorris on April 28, 2016, 03:03:41 PM
My British Brown Ale scored 40 points and made mini-BOS! I am stoked!

Nice.  40 is a great score.  I topped out at 35.5 this year.  My top two scores were the same top two beers as last year, but no luck on advancing.
Thanks! My other beer got 33.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 28, 2016, 03:07:47 PM
My British Brown Ale scored 40 points and made mini-BOS! I am stoked!


Nice job!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: MDixon on April 28, 2016, 03:41:13 PM
Janis posted it isn't ready yet.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Badgerhead on May 02, 2016, 07:39:27 PM
New to the forum, new to the AHA.  Entered my first ever competition beer in San Diego (an APA, scored a 31), and I am DYING to see my scoresheets.  Anybody know when they are going out?
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: brewinhard on May 02, 2016, 11:25:01 PM
You should be getting yours pretty soon. I got mine a few weeks after my judging site was completed (Indy).
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ranchovillabrew on May 03, 2016, 01:49:26 AM
I got mine from San Diego today.
38 for my prickly pear wheat, 35 for my Irish red.

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Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: Badgerhead on May 03, 2016, 02:46:06 AM
Got them today.  Not as many comments as I was hoping (I need educated feedback to improve!), but I didn't disagree with anything they said.
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: ranchovillabrew on May 03, 2016, 02:59:17 AM
The checklist scoresheet doesn't allow for a lot of comments, local competitions are better for lots of feedback

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Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: wingnut on May 03, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
The checklist scoresheet doesn't allow for a lot of comments, local competitions are better for lots of feedback

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Indeed.  The checklist is not very verbose, however, I like the checklist.  Most good judges will write in something if the checklist does not adequately list what they are tasting... but I think the check boxes give just as much of an indication of what the taster was experiencing as the hand written paragraph.  I also like that it creates a more consistent feedback method... making sure all the same aspects of the beer are analyzed every time.

I think the only thing that is missing in some cases, (in the check sheet) is a good means of communicating how a beer misses the style.  (I am thinking specifically about sour beers styles and other non-mainstream styles.   I had a couple sour beers that were good (very drinkable was the comment)... but missed the mark on style a bit, and (fortunately) the judges were kind enough to put three or four words in to state how it missed.  That is perfect for figuring out how to brew the next one!
Title: Re: 2016 NHC
Post by: narcout on May 03, 2016, 04:12:50 PM
The checklist is not very verbose, however, I like the checklist.

I think I actually like the checklist scoresheet better than the regular scoresheet.