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Title: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: micsager on February 11, 2016, 08:22:47 PM
Well, my cascades are starting to sprout.  And it's just mid-February.  Pretty shocked. 
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: micsager on February 17, 2016, 05:12:27 PM
And now Chinook is sprouting. 

Nothing on the Fuggles or Centennial. 
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: 69franx on February 17, 2016, 08:42:03 PM
How much of your hop usage for the 1bbl brewhouse(I think) are home grown?
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: denny on February 17, 2016, 08:56:39 PM
Oughta go see what's left of mine.  I tore them out last year, but I suspect it'll be a while before they're really gone.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: Indy574 on February 17, 2016, 09:31:49 PM
Still too cold in Indiana for anything to sprout for me. I am looking forward to building a trelis for them to climb on vs. the chain link fence I tried training them on. I got a whole dried ounce of Cacade and nothing from my Centennial last year.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: micsager on February 19, 2016, 04:50:17 PM
How much of your hop usage for the 1bbl brewhouse(I think) are home grown?

Zero.  We have them in half barrels in front of the brewery for landscaping only.  Every other year we have to dump the barrels, cut the crown up, and replant a few rhizomes.  I give the rest to local homebrewers and such. 

Although we are considering a fresh hop beer in the fall for (big surprise) the Fresh Hop festival in Yakima.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: micsager on February 19, 2016, 04:52:42 PM
Still too cold in Indiana for anything to sprout for me. I am looking forward to building a trelis for them to climb on vs. the chain link fence I tried training them on. I got a whole dried ounce of Cacade and nothing from my Centennial last year.

Several years ago at a different place, I grew them on chain link fence.  It worked great, except fall clean-up was a PITA.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: 69franx on February 19, 2016, 04:54:38 PM
How much of your hop usage for the 1bbl brewhouse(I think) are home grown?

Zero.  We have them in half barrels in front of the brewery for landscaping only.  Every other year we have to dump the barrels, cut the crown up, and replant a few rhizomes.  I give the rest to local homebrewers and such. 

Although we are considering a fresh hop beer in the fall for (big surprise) the Fresh Hop festival in Yakima.
thanks, the fresh hop craze is pretty big out there, good brewing
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: micsager on February 25, 2016, 04:39:45 PM
.... and the fuggles are up.  Good deal, all four.  I was worried maybe we cut that crown up a bit to much last fall. 
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: erockrph on March 04, 2016, 03:45:47 PM
Oughta go see what's left of mine.  I tore them out last year, but I suspect it'll be a while before they're really gone.
I have a blackberry plant like this. It's been 2 years and I still pull out shoots every few days all summer long.

Even though I know it's going to hurt my yield, I have my hops in containers for just this reason.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: Phil_M on March 04, 2016, 05:00:47 PM
Mine are starting to sprout. I plan on repotting all my hops this year, figure after two years in pots they could stand to have the crowns broken up and start fresh.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: micsager on March 04, 2016, 06:59:22 PM
Mine are starting to sprout. I plan on repotting all my hops this year, figure after two years in pots they could stand to have the crowns broken up and start fresh.

Yep, I do that every other year.  A PITA sometimes, but the half barrels keep them contained. 
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: micsager on March 17, 2016, 08:34:57 PM
I hate this time of year.  I've got all four hop hills (half whiskey barrels) with lots of little 6-8 inch sprouts.  Tonight, they all get cut down.  It'll be a few weeks before they re-emerge.  Maybe I'll pickle them like HopsDirect does. 

Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: klickitat jim on March 18, 2016, 03:28:06 AM
I hate this time of year.  I've got all four hop hills (half whiskey barrels) with lots of little 6-8 inch sprouts.  Tonight, they all get cut down.  It'll be a few weeks before they re-emerge.  Maybe I'll pickle them like HopsDirect does.
This year I'm keeping mine hacked down till mid June, then let them do their thing. Mine are only for decoration, conversation peice while sharing beer on the deck and BBQing. So I might not even trellis them this time, or just short trellis
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: reverseapachemaster on March 18, 2016, 03:06:08 PM
Hops are already getting some height on them. Cascade and Mt. Hood started peaking out late February and they are both already close to six feet tall. Nugget is out and about two feet tall. Sterling slow to appear and about a foot tall now.

We're getting some rain this weekend so I'll probably see several more feet over the next week.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: erockrph on April 01, 2016, 02:20:19 AM
I just got an email from Farmhouse saying that my rhizomes have shipped. It's a couple of weeks earlier than expected, but makes sense given the warm winter and spring we're having. Ordered a crown of Pacific Gem from Great Lakes Hops to complete my set.

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Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: Ale Farmer on April 08, 2016, 02:47:17 AM
My Perle has woken up: saw this morning those reddish tips--just a day after the last of the April snow melted here in Western Massachusetts. Waiting to see if the EKG and Northern Brewer rise and shine soon, too.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: fmader on April 08, 2016, 10:34:49 AM
I dug a couple of rhizomes last week for couple of coworkers. I had no visual growth. We had snow on the ground this week in NE Ohio with 2-4" expected tonight. I checked the hops yesterday. I have visual growth on all 9 plants with magnum and chinook with 12-18" shooters.

FWIW, the Thyme Garden always sent me my rhizomes the second or third week of March. They are out of Oregon I believe. The first year (2012) was the warmest March on record here, so I planted the day I got them. The next year, different story. They stayed in the fridge for almost a month before I could put a shovel in the ground.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: reverseapachemaster on April 08, 2016, 01:35:45 PM
All four varieties have bines at least six feet tall.

Sadly the rest of my garden I overwintered is looking kinda crappy right now.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: denny on April 08, 2016, 03:39:21 PM
I have nearly succeeded in wiping mine out.  Hopefully I can finish them off this year.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: FaradayUncaged on April 08, 2016, 05:07:43 PM
My rhizomes showed up this week (first time grower), but the weather is putting a damper on when I'll actually be able to plant (light snow here north of Detroit...nothing sticking but definitely too cold).
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: narvin on April 08, 2016, 06:19:15 PM
I already have a few feet of growth on the earliest bines, but it's going to be 28 degrees tonight.  We'll see what happens...
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: IMperry9 on April 08, 2016, 06:31:33 PM
One of my nugget plants has 7-8 small red bines popping out and the other Nugget is starting to break ground along with the Willamette. Still getting second winter here in WNY so we will see how they do.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: Indy574 on April 08, 2016, 09:21:59 PM
I spray my yard with a herbicide throughout the year, as weeds love my yard so much. I try to avoid getting my hops with the spray but was wonder if anyone has killed theirs off by this?  I emailed Ortho and Spectricide and really never got a definitive answer. They both say to avoid them but wouldn't say if it would kill them off.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: duboman on April 08, 2016, 11:15:32 PM
Soil temps in Chicago are still in the low 40's, snow shoers all day here, I got no sprouts yet......can spring please arrive

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Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: erockrph on April 09, 2016, 06:40:50 PM
Finally got my new rhizomes/plants into the ground today. I have a rhizome each of Sterling and Sorachi Ace, and a crown of Pacific Gem started in pots under my deck. When I went to throw away what I thought was an empty shipping box afterwards, I noticed it was heavier than expected. I reached under the packing material and pulled out an extra bag. The tag inside read "Lucky: bonus hops!". I didn't have a spot in the yard, so I now have a Perle crown planted among some small birches at the southern edge of the woods by my yard.

Shout out to Great Lakes Hops (http://www.greatlakeshops.com/) for making my day. Shipping was quick and well-packaged, the crowns look great, and little surprises like this are the type of customer service that make me want to pay it forward and share my experience. It will be interesting to see how the crowns do side-by-side with rhizomes this year.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: klickitat jim on April 10, 2016, 03:18:44 AM
My Cascade, Centennial and Willamette are... were about 2ft tall. Hacked them down today. Way too early yet. I'll probably hack them down every couple weeks through may then let em rip
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: duboman on April 10, 2016, 03:15:11 PM
Well who knew, checked my plants in the snow yesterday, soil temp was a chilly 41 and both my cascades and centennials are showing 1-2" sprouts!

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Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: FaradayUncaged on April 13, 2016, 02:21:38 PM
What range of soil temps do you generally look for before either planting or allowing to grow?
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: b-hoppy on April 15, 2016, 03:32:54 AM
Rhizomes are usually dug when they're dormant and kept refrigerated to help hold them back.  If that's what you're planting, as soon as you can work the soil is a good time to get them in the ground.  Once it begins to warm up, they'll start poking.  In your first year you should let everything grow as the more foliage it can produce, the more food it can produce  to help build a strong root system and crown.  Once they're established they'll generally produce many more shoots than you'll need  so folks thin them out. 
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: FaradayUncaged on April 18, 2016, 12:04:48 PM
Rhizomes are usually dug when they're dormant and kept refrigerated to help hold them back.  If that's what you're planting, as soon as you can work the soil is a good time to get them in the ground.  Once it begins to warm up, they'll start poking.  In your first year you should let everything grow as the more foliage it can produce, the more food it can produce  to help build a strong root system and crown.  Once they're established they'll generally produce many more shoots than you'll need  so folks thin them out.

Excellent advice.  Thank you!
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: muzak on April 25, 2016, 02:29:20 PM
I recently moved into a new home and the backyard is a mess. Just completely covered in weeds. So seeing as the weather is already nice, I decided to plant my rhizomes in half barrels until I can tame the yard. I opted for Cascade and Columbus, as those seem to survive the heat, according to feedback from home brewers in the area.

I decided to go with a soil mix as opposed to straight potting soil. I did 60% native sandy soil, 30% bagged garden soil and 10% Fertilizer. This way I can easily transplant it next season, and it will be accustomed to the native soil.

This is my first time growing hops, so I'm pretty excited.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: micsager on April 25, 2016, 10:17:59 PM
I recently moved into a new home and the backyard is a mess. Just completely covered in weeds. So seeing as the weather is already nice, I decided to plant my rhizomes in half barrels until I can tame the yard. I opted for Cascade and Columbus, as those seem to survive the heat, according to feedback from home brewers in the area.

I decided to go with a soil mix as opposed to straight potting soil. I did 60% native sandy soil, 30% bagged garden soil and 10% Fertilizer. This way I can easily transplant it next season, and it will be accustomed to the native soil.

This is my first time growing hops, so I'm pretty excited.

It's fun to grow your hops.  I think you should stick to the barrels.  the barrels contain them well, although you do have to trim the crown every other year or so.  Your soil mix will be fine.  Not sure where Rialto is, but just have fun with them.  We just consider them ornamental.  And in Northwest Washington state, ours are bout 5 feet tall.  Now it's time to thin them a bit, and get rid of the lower leaves.



Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: narvin on April 25, 2016, 11:17:02 PM
+1

I'm growing them in an old trash can with all the leftover dirt from a few years of potted plants.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: erockrph on April 26, 2016, 10:00:30 AM
I've grown mine in large pots with decent success. My biggest issue is that hops are finicky about water. They need a lot of it, but they don't tolerate overwatering particularly well. Your soil mix should be ok in a large container like a half-barrel, but I prefer a moisture-control potting soil in my pots (which are a bit smaller than barrels).
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: narvin on April 27, 2016, 04:03:06 PM
Pretty happy so far.  Lots of dirt and some drip irrigation help when the summer becomes sweltering.

(http://i.imgur.com/U19RdcP.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: muzak on April 28, 2016, 02:42:55 PM
I've grown mine in large pots with decent success. My biggest issue is that hops are finicky about water. They need a lot of it, but they don't tolerate overwatering particularly well.

This was my problem the first time I attempted it years ago. I think I over watered them.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: erockrph on April 30, 2016, 08:08:37 PM
I've grown mine in large pots with decent success. My biggest issue is that hops are finicky about water. They need a lot of it, but they don't tolerate overwatering particularly well.

This was my problem the first time I attempted it years ago. I think I over watered them.
Same here.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: reverseapachemaster on May 05, 2016, 03:30:57 PM
Spider mites are particularly bad this year. Sucking the plants dry faster than I can treat them. I was gone for a week and a half with no problems when I left and a full fledged invasion when I came back.  >:(
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: Phil_M on May 11, 2016, 01:37:31 PM
My hops are hanging in there so far this year. Last year was a really wet summer, and that did a number on my hops. The cascades were the hardest hit and barely grew at all. My willamette grew fine, but never produced cones.

Since they're mostly decorative, I got rid of the cascades and split my willamettes up to use in the old cascade pots. Even after almost three weeks of rain they still look healthy.
Title: Re: 2016 hop growning season
Post by: muzak on May 11, 2016, 03:28:02 PM
I moved my potted hops over near the old clothesline poles in my backyard. I already installed eye bolts on the pots, now I just gotta string up twine before the hops really start growing. The Columbus are already at around 5 inches, the Cascades are still just tiny buds.