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Title: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 01, 2016, 09:33:11 PM
It's time to officially sign up for the AHA Forum Spring 2016 Beer Swap!

Jim has organized these in the past and they've been a lot of fun. FYI - I'm just the temporary cat herder here. 8)

Here is the sign up list so far:
(these people have messaged me directly with name & address)
AmandaK
Wort-H.O.G.
ynotbrusum
coolman26
Klickitat Jim
morticaixavier
Hickory
69franx
fmader
JT
cempt1
jeffy
pete b
erockrph
Joe Sr.
rob_f
Phil_M
brewinhard
redzim
Hooper


These people said they were interested, but haven't sent me mailing info yet:
(Once I get mailing info via PM, you'll move up to the top list.)
@HoosierBrew; @heavydeadlifts; @jimmykx250


Reminder, or for folks that haven't seen this before, if you join in you are committing to ship 4 beers to the person you are assigned. Done by random draw. It's not a pairing because that requires an equal number of participants. You'll ship to one person and receive from another.

Rules/dates/general ramblings:
Challenge Beer
You can, if you want, brew a "Challenge Beer". Rules are pretty simple:
Quote from: Jim
Here are the finalized Challenge Beer guidelines.

Ingredients you have to use (mandatory)
DME
Dry yeast

Techniques you can't use
Mash
Mini-mash

Anything not mentioned is fair game

Disclaimer: this is not an official AHA thing. We are just helping each other brew better beer. Also, I am not policing this and sending reminders for shipping... if mid-May comes and you haven't gotten a package, feel free to PM your shipper and get it figured out. We haven't had any deadbeats since Jim started these things, so let's not ruin a good thing! (HoosierBrew is the sergeant-at-arms and he will give you an internet stink eye if you don't ship!) Protip: reduce impatience and nervousness by PMing your plan and a tracking number to your recipient.

Looking forward to it!  ;D
-Amanda

For the uninitiated, here are some past threads:
Swaptoberfest 2015 (https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=24389.0)
Spring Swap 2015 (https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=22832.0)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on March 01, 2016, 09:59:09 PM
Spectacular Amanda! Way to raise the bar! I'm looking forward to thi
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on March 01, 2016, 10:44:19 PM
Here's my plan: I'll be bottling two beers from a keg within the next week. Once I'm satisfied that doing so didn't cause them to pick up an infection, I'll commit.

Third beer will likely be the mild I have planned for the weekend.

By the way, we talking bombers or 12-ounce beers?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on March 01, 2016, 11:06:50 PM
PM sent, I'm in
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 01, 2016, 11:10:42 PM
Here's my plan: I'll be bottling two beers from a keg within the next week. Once I'm satisfied that doing so didn't cause them to pick up an infection, I'll commit.

Third beer will likely be the mild I have planned for the weekend.

By the way, we talking bombers or 12-ounce beers?

you'll be good Phil. That's how i've bottled all mine and never an issue. unless you have a crap filled bottle or transfer line, should be just fine.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on March 01, 2016, 11:41:51 PM
Regarding bombers vs 12s, my personal thoughts are that it depends on what ya got, and probably what style. For example all of my saisons and bret beers go in belgian 750s. Beer gun fills can go in whatever. A bomber of something sessionable might be nice, but with big beers I think 12s are plenty generous.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hickory on March 01, 2016, 11:56:48 PM
Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 01, 2016, 11:59:57 PM
bombers is all I have so that's what ya get folks...yeah, I'm sure that sucks   ::)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 02, 2016, 12:07:44 AM
Spectacular Amanda! Way to raise the bar! I'm looking forward to this

I'm just glad that I've done good by you.  :)

Regarding bombers vs 12s, my personal thoughts are that it depends on what ya got, and probably what style. For example all of my saisons and bret beers go in belgian 750s. Beer gun fills can go in whatever. A bomber of something sessionable might be nice, but with big beers I think 12s are plenty generous.

Yeah, just send what you have. I'd hope no one here would get pissy over volumes.  ;) For instance, I prefer 12oz bottles, but if I draw some bombers... well, I know how to share. Haha
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on March 02, 2016, 03:38:04 AM
Regarding things like bottle size etc, I suggest new folks read the links Amanda posted. You'll see that its pissy-free, and generally folks are overly generous. They are also extremely gracious with feedback. The biggest thrill tends to come from sharing and getting to know people. Putting a beer to a name, so to speak.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 02, 2016, 04:19:24 AM
Regarding things like bottle size etc, I suggest new folks read the links Amanda posted. You'll see that its pissy-free, and generally folks are overly generous. They are also extremely gracious with feedback. The biggest thrill tends to come from sharing and getting to know people. Putting a beer to a name, so to speak.
Couldn't agree more.

BTW, can we have "pissy-free" as some sort of Forum motto? Haha
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on March 02, 2016, 05:11:20 AM
Regarding things like bottle size etc, I suggest new folks read the links Amanda posted. You'll see that its pissy-free, and generally folks are overly generous. They are also extremely gracious with feedback. The biggest thrill tends to come from sharing and getting to know people. Putting a beer to a name, so to speak.
Couldn't agree more.

BTW, can we have "pissy-free" as some sort of Forum motto? Haha
I approve that message
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 02, 2016, 12:47:33 PM
BTW, can we have "pissy-free" as some sort of Forum motto?



After the recent run of trolling here, I concur heartily.  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: coolman26 on March 02, 2016, 04:29:29 PM
Agreed 100%  Work changed my plans for the DME beer today. Black IPA will have to wait until next week.


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 02, 2016, 06:05:21 PM
We have 15 signed up already - nice. About half of them are doing the challenge beer.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on March 02, 2016, 08:46:46 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: ynotbrusum on March 02, 2016, 09:57:47 PM
I like to bottle and send plastic PET bottles that are 16 ozers.  They seem to work fairly well if I bottle with the beer gun and I have near zero issues with leaks!  Hopefully that is okay!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on March 03, 2016, 01:59:45 AM
I like to bottle and send plastic PET bottles that are 16 ozers.  They seem to work fairly well if I bottle with the beer gun and I have near zero issues with leaks!  Hopefully that is okay!
Actually, sounds like a great idea to me. Much safer for shipping.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: rob_f on March 05, 2016, 03:35:08 PM
I'm in for my first swap; looking forward to it.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on March 05, 2016, 04:55:05 PM
I'm in, but I have not brewed a lot lately.  What I have right now is three treatments of the same Imperial Porter - one with coffee and little brett, one that spent some time in a bourbon barrel and one plain.
So if you like this sort of thing, you may want to tell Amanda.
I have some old sour beers, too, to round it out.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: toby on March 07, 2016, 04:42:46 PM
I'm going to have to take a pass on this one.  Will be back for the next one, though.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: RPIScotty on March 07, 2016, 05:42:57 PM
I have to pass as well. I didn't get enough of a head start on brewing this year.


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: morticaixavier on March 07, 2016, 05:43:58 PM
I'm in, but I have not brewed a lot lately.  What I have right now is three treatments of the same Imperial Porter - one with coffee and little brett, one that spent some time in a bourbon barrel and one plain.
So if you like this sort of thing, you may want to tell Amanda.
I have some old sour beers, too, to round it out.

I'm in a similar boat actually. Whoever draws me should get ready for some sour beers and perhaps a strong ale or two...

and of course, heady topper... or Lawson's
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 07, 2016, 05:51:57 PM
I'm gonna be a game time decision. I have beers fermenting and one about to lager. I want to be sure they're 'swap worthy' before I commit. Past that I only have a mostly gone IPA and a really good cider. I'll let you know in time though, Amanda.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on March 07, 2016, 05:58:40 PM
I'm gonna be a game time decision. I have beers fermenting and one about to lager. I want to be sure they're 'swap worthy' before I commit. Past that I only have a mostly gone IPA and a really good cider. I'll let you know in time though, Amanda.
I've got my fingers crossed on a couple of mine!  I'd hate to include a "sorry these beers suck" note in the box!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 07, 2016, 06:02:03 PM
Not a worry guys. We still have a bit of time between now and 3/25.

Speaking of, I should brew a few more things just so I can have a stocked cellar for the spring festival season. And for this swap. ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 07, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
I'd hate to include a "sorry these beers suck" note in the box!


Yeah, trying to avoid that scenario.  ;D
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on March 07, 2016, 06:18:56 PM
I'd hate to include a "sorry these beers suck" note in the box!


Yeah, trying to avoid that scenario.  ;D

It's beer... How bad can they be?

I have a hard time believing that any of you brew "bad" beers. Some of us brew some beers that don't live up to our expectations. I bet most of you are like me and are your toughest critic.

Send me your "crappy" beers. I'll be the judge of that  :P
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 07, 2016, 06:26:09 PM
I bet most of you are like me and are your toughest critic.


Yep, definitely.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 08, 2016, 10:22:20 PM
Besides the German lagers (pils,o'fest,Dort), going to brew up a kolsch malt cream ale since I have some to use up. Something different so why not I figured.


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 08, 2016, 10:24:11 PM
Besides the German lagers (pils,o'fest,Dort), going to brew up a kolsch malt cream ale since I have some to use up. Something different so why not I figured.


Sounds great!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 09, 2016, 08:04:28 PM
I also just realized I had an English PA/ESB in keg since sep 15 (had only consumed about 1/3 of it). it was OG 1.055 FG 1.008, 6.2%abv . 95% MO, 3.1% crystal 80, 1.9% extra dark crystal. 40IBU of challenger. WLP002.

Just poured a pint and man has this matured nicely. Might have to think about throwing this one in the swap also.

edit: think I will I hit it with 3oz of challenger week before we ship to give it back that fresh hop aroma to compliment the taste.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on March 10, 2016, 12:39:04 AM
I also just realized I had an English PA/ESB in keg since sep 15 (had only consumed about 1/3 of it). it was OG 1.055 FG 1.008, 6.2%abv . 95% MO, 3.1% crystal 80, 1.9% extra dark crystal. 40IBU of challenger. WLP002.

Just poured a pint and man has this matured nicely. Might have to think about throwing this one in the swap also.

edit: think I will I hit it with 3oz of challenger week before we ship to give it back that fresh hop aroma to compliment the taste.
Just starting to keg and can't wait until I have so many I can lose one for several months.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on March 10, 2016, 01:06:41 AM
I also just realized I had an English PA/ESB in keg since sep 15 (had only consumed about 1/3 of it). it was OG 1.055 FG 1.008, 6.2%abv . 95% MO, 3.1% crystal 80, 1.9% extra dark crystal. 40IBU of challenger. WLP002.

Just poured a pint and man has this matured nicely. Might have to think about throwing this one in the swap also.

edit: think I will I hit it with 3oz of challenger week before we ship to give it back that fresh hop aroma to compliment the taste.
Just starting to keg and can't wait until I have so many I can lose one for several months.

It won't take you long, Pete. For the last three January's, I've brewed a big beer to let age until November/December of that year. Barleywine in 2014, Quad in 2015 (actually 12/30/14), and a Russian Imperial Stout this year. As long as you keep your taps full, you won't miss them. But the intrigue and anticipation will still be there. Then when you tap them nearly a year later... That's the ticket!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on March 10, 2016, 01:13:59 AM
I also just realized I had an English PA/ESB in keg since sep 15 (had only consumed about 1/3 of it). it was OG 1.055 FG 1.008, 6.2%abv . 95% MO, 3.1% crystal 80, 1.9% extra dark crystal. 40IBU of challenger. WLP002.

Just poured a pint and man has this matured nicely. Might have to think about throwing this one in the swap also.

edit: think I will I hit it with 3oz of challenger week before we ship to give it back that fresh hop aroma to compliment the taste.
Just starting to keg and can't wait until I have so many I can lose one for several months.
For me it becomes a beast of burden after a while because I end up needing to dump or bottle batches to free up keg space. You'll be surprised at how easy it is to let old kegs sit around after you get 5 or 6 of them.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 10, 2016, 01:19:03 AM

I also just realized I had an English PA/ESB in keg since sep 15 (had only consumed about 1/3 of it). it was OG 1.055 FG 1.008, 6.2%abv . 95% MO, 3.1% crystal 80, 1.9% extra dark crystal. 40IBU of challenger. WLP002.

Just poured a pint and man has this matured nicely. Might have to think about throwing this one in the swap also.

edit: think I will I hit it with 3oz of challenger week before we ship to give it back that fresh hop aroma to compliment the taste.
Just starting to keg and can't wait until I have so many I can lose one for several months.

I've got 10 now in rotation. Sometimes I tap one and think I want to let it age a bit...and it's out in one of the refrigerators and then I forget about it.


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on March 10, 2016, 01:23:29 AM
Sometimes I tap one and think I want to let it age a bit...and it's out in one of the refrigerators and then I forget about it.

Same here. I've almost dumped a few and let them sit, forgotten about. 2 or 3 months later and the beer is 100% better.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on March 15, 2016, 12:23:10 AM
I'm in. I hope the mild was carbed enough. I though it was fine, but I prefer my beer on the flat side.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on March 15, 2016, 12:34:05 AM
I'm in. I hope the mild was carbed enough. I though it was fine, but I prefer my beer on the flat side.
Mild and bitter are beers I'll drink almost flat any day. 
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Pricelessbrewing on March 15, 2016, 01:25:43 AM
Don't think I'll have 4 beers ready in time. When's the next one?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on March 15, 2016, 01:27:45 AM
Don't think I'll have 4 beers ready in time. When's the next one?
You sure?  Only need 3 and a local offering. 
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Pricelessbrewing on March 15, 2016, 01:44:11 AM
Alright, maybe then. I'll keep it in mind, and check the schedule.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on March 15, 2016, 03:05:05 AM
I'm in. I hope the mild was carbed enough. I though it was fine, but I prefer my beer on the flat side.
Mild and bitter are beers I'll drink almost flat any day.
Agreed!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 27, 2016, 10:49:31 PM
Alright, everyone who messaged me and I responded to is in for the swap. (First posts may not be perfectly updated.)

I'll closing it off tonight and will send out assignments tomorrow morning.

Was on vacay, so I missed my own deadline. ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on March 27, 2016, 11:16:20 PM
Alright, everyone who messaged me and I responded to is in for the swap. (First posts may not be perfectly updated.)

I'll closing it off tonight and will send out assignments tomorrow morning.

Was on vacay, so I missed my own deadline. ;)
Crud. I just looked through my IMs and can't find where I sent one to you, or heard back. Too late?

I'll send you my shipping address just in case
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 27, 2016, 11:19:49 PM
Not to late. Especially for you, Jim. ;)

I got your PM and you are on the list.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on March 27, 2016, 11:36:56 PM
Awesome!

By the way, we sampled the Challenge beer the other day and I would say that it is a classic example of someone's very first attempt at brewing, LOL.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on March 28, 2016, 12:24:02 AM
Whoa...I thought this closed April 1st...I still want in...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 28, 2016, 12:36:26 AM
I said 3/25 in my first post (apparently... lol) but I missed it due to enjoying Spring Training, FL sun, and beers too much. ;)

Figured I'd give everyone one last go at it. After I send out the pairs tomorrow morning I won't accept anyone new. Best to get in tonight since I'm up at 5:30am. ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 28, 2016, 12:37:05 AM
I have both Jim and Hooper in now as well.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on March 28, 2016, 12:41:25 AM
Thanks Amanda...and a big thanks for handling the swap...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on March 28, 2016, 01:40:43 PM
For some reason I get a bit anxious about waiting to see who I am sending mine to. I guess subconsciously I'm afraid it will be Hieronymus J. Fussbudget III, hard-ass beer connoisseur.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on March 28, 2016, 01:42:53 PM
For some reason I get a bit anxious about waiting to see who I am sending mine to. I guess subconsciously I'm afraid it will be Hieronymus J. Fussbudget III, hard-ass beer connoisseur.

Lol... I'm anxious too. In fact, I had just checked all the "new" threads... Then I saw this had a new tag afterwards. It was just you haha
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: toby on March 28, 2016, 03:57:57 PM
The really 'sad' part is that I'm not participating in this one not because I don't have beer to send, but rather because I still haven't had a chance to sample and provide feedback from the October one on a few of the ones I was sent.  I have an acquisition problem.  I acquire more beer than I drink and I'm trying to work through it.  lol
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on March 28, 2016, 04:58:25 PM
The really 'sad' part is that I'm not participating in this one not because I don't have beer to send, but rather because I still haven't had a chance to sample and provide feedback from the October one on a few of the ones I was sent.  I have an acquisition problem.  I acquire more beer than I drink and I'm trying to work through it.  lol
Let me know if a house in your neighborhood becomes available for rent during the winter months Toby. I could help.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 28, 2016, 05:24:04 PM
Alrighty, here's the listing of pairs. I went random, then tried to keep the challenge beer people amongst themselves, then I attempted to minimize shipping distances to some extent, but it sure ain't perfect.

Forum Name ... Ships to:
redzim ... Phil_M
brewinhard ... morticaixavier
Phil_M ... brewinhard
rob_f ... redzim
jeffy ... JT
cempt1 ... ynotbrusum
Wort-H.O.G. ... AmandaK
fmader ... rob_f
JT ... Wort-H.O.G.
69franx ... pete b
coolman26 ... Hooper
ynotbrusum    ... coolman26
Joe Sr. ... cempt1
AmandaK ... fmader
Hickory ... Klickitat Jim
Hooper ... 69franx
Klickitat Jim ... Joe Sr.
pete b ... erockrph
erockrph ... Hickory
morticaixavier ... jeffy

PMs with addresses will go out shortly.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on March 28, 2016, 05:31:53 PM
Well it worked great for me Amanda, thanks! Can't wait to try Frank's brews and Eric is close enough for cheap shipping or even a possible in-person drop off.
Eric: I'm waiting on a lager and the challenge beer is in the fermenter, so will probably mail April 22-25. Will be sure to include some meads. We'll have to go back and forth to figure out what local offerings I can find that are not available your way. Are the newer Spencer Abbey offerings available in RI? The Imperial Stout and IPA?
Frank: No worries if your not ready yet, I don't mind waiting.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on March 28, 2016, 05:37:10 PM
Cool.  Thanks, Amanda.  Cempt1 is not a user I think I'm familiar with.  Looking forward to getting to know you and looking forward to Jim's challenge beer.

My challenge beer will get shipped, but I'm not 100% in love with it.  I need to tap the keg because the bottles never cleared.  Oh well, a cloudy bitter ain't the worst thing.

And Toby, if you ever get around to sampling those from October I would love the feedback.  I've got my notes on your last beer on a piece of paper in my pocket (really) and can't remember if I ever posted them.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 28, 2016, 05:42:28 PM
Hey @Wort-H.O.G. I exceeded my PM limit - go figure!

So before I forget to reply back: Yes - I do love German lagers!  8) And no, we don't get Fatheads. I think we get Great Lakes? Idk anymore.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on March 28, 2016, 06:01:20 PM
Thanks again Amanda. 3 of my 4(sending most ready 3) are still awaiting bottling hopefully this week, and I will ship accordingly as the bottling and conditioning is complete. I am also not very familiar with my shipper, but have seen Hooper floating around and look forward to the brews.
edit, just realized that Hooper and i shared a couple pms a while back about his tag line quote and the great movie its from!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 28, 2016, 06:03:36 PM
Hey @Wort-H.O.G. I exceeded my PM limit - go figure!

So before I forget to reply back: Yes - I do love German lagers!  8) And no, we don't get Fatheads. I think we get Great Lakes? Idk anymore.

Amanda-
ok good. I will send you hop juju-fat head's imperial IPA. will be shipping next week and will send tracking.
-Ken
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: toby on March 28, 2016, 06:54:26 PM
Let me know if a house in your neighborhood becomes available for rent during the winter months Toby. I could help.

Will let you know, but it's a small cul-de-sac neighborhood, so typically only the occasional resale.  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: toby on March 28, 2016, 06:59:35 PM
And Toby, if you ever get around to sampling those from October I would love the feedback.  I've got my notes on your last beer on a piece of paper in my pocket (really) and can't remember if I ever posted them.

I definitely will.  They're in the kitchen fridge still.  Just had a rash of fresh hoppy stuff since then that needed attention more quickly.  Funny part is that I remember the stouts you sent that are left, but I cannot even remember what I sent you.  lol
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on March 28, 2016, 07:24:09 PM
Hey @Wort-H.O.G. I exceeded my PM limit - go figure!

So before I forget to reply back: Yes - I do love German lagers!  8) And no, we don't get Fatheads. I think we get Great Lakes? Idk anymore.

Amanda-
ok good. I will send you hop juju-fat head's imperial IPA. will be shipping next week and will send tracking.
-Ken

Lol... I would have guessed you were getting rid of that. I'm actually sending Hop JuJu out as well
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 28, 2016, 07:43:37 PM
Hey @Wort-H.O.G. I exceeded my PM limit - go figure!

So before I forget to reply back: Yes - I do love German lagers!  8) And no, we don't get Fatheads. I think we get Great Lakes? Idk anymore.

Amanda-
ok good. I will send you hop juju-fat head's imperial IPA. will be shipping next week and will send tracking.
-Ken

Lol... I would have guessed you were getting rid of that. I'm actually sending Hop JuJu out as well
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on March 28, 2016, 09:42:36 PM
Joe Sr, I should be shipping next week. I've got to get to town and procure something local and interesting to toss in the box.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on March 28, 2016, 09:46:07 PM
Joe Sr, I should be shipping next week. I've got to get to town and procure something local and interesting to toss in the box.

No rush.  Do it on whatever schedule works for you.

I'm looking forward to it whenever it arrives.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on March 30, 2016, 12:34:32 AM
I'm pretty stoked that I will be on the receiving end of Mort's beers.  I have heard good things, plus he's got access to stuff in Vt. and Me. not available in Florida.  WooHoo!
For JT in Ohio, I have some treated Imperial Porters (coffee and bourbon barrel), a Brett Old Ale, a sour solara  blend and if you can wait, a German Pilsner.  Is there something you really want from Tampa?  Favorite styles?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on March 30, 2016, 12:42:28 AM


I'm pretty stoked that I will be on the receiving end of Mort's beers.  I have heard good things, plus he's got access to stuff in Vt. and Me. not available in Florida.  WooHoo!
For JT in Ohio, I have some treated Imperial Porters (coffee and bourbon barrel), a Brett Old Ale, a sour solara  blend and if you can wait, a German Pilsner.  Is there something you really want from Tampa?  Favorite styles?

I haven't found a style that I really dislike.    I'm definitely looking forward to your beers, they all sound right up my alley.  Ship at your convenience!  I can wait!
As far as locals go, I've had great beers from Cigar City and Saint Somewhere.  Anything you send will be a treat I'm sure.  Send me something you like. 
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 31, 2016, 09:17:50 PM
Amanda- the northern german pils I'm sending is with weyermann Barke pils malt. im digging this malt so if you haven't tried it, you will soon.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on March 31, 2016, 10:26:09 PM
Amanda- the northern german pils I'm sending is with weyermann Barke pils malt. im digging this malt so if you haven't tried it, you will soon.
Hell yeah! I'm about to try out a new one here as well: Ireks. I honestly didn't plan having you being my shipper, but I am super stoked about it. German Lagers are my jam.

And Frank, I'll be on the later end of the shipping window but it's only because I'm particularly excited about one of the American Wilds I am about to bottle. I want to bottle some of it plain and try dry hopping a small portion of it with Amarillo if I can figure out the logistics. If I can figure it out with my equipment, you'll get both. :D
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on March 31, 2016, 11:17:13 PM
Amanda- the northern german pils I'm sending is with weyermann Barke pils malt. im digging this malt so if you haven't tried it, you will soon.
Hell yeah! I'm about to try out a new one here as well: Ireks. I honestly didn't plan having you being my shipper, but I am super stoked about it. German Lagers are my jam.

And Frank, I'll be on the later end of the shipping window but it's only because I'm particularly excited about one of the American Wilds I am about to bottle. I want to bottle some of it plain and try dry hopping a small portion of it with Amarillo if I can figure out the logistics. If I can figure it out with my equipment, you'll get both. :D

I'll be camped out on the porch waiting on the UPS guy on the 4/30  :P

Really. I don't care if it's a little late. I'm just uber stoked to try your beers!

This is my first swap since my hiatus stretched across the last two. So, I'm a bit excited. Looking to be inspired to broaden my horizons a bit with this.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 01, 2016, 03:51:46 AM
Amanda- the northern german pils I'm sending is with weyermann Barke pils malt. im digging this malt so if you haven't tried it, you will soon.
Hell yeah! I'm about to try out a new one here as well: Ireks. I honestly didn't plan having you being my shipper, but I am super stoked about it. German Lagers are my jam.

And Frank, I'll be on the later end of the shipping window but it's only because I'm particularly excited about one of the American Wilds I am about to bottle. I want to bottle some of it plain and try dry hopping a small portion of it with Amarillo if I can figure out the logistics. If I can figure it out with my equipment, you'll get both. :D

I'll be camped out on the porch waiting on the UPS guy on the 4/30 

Really. I don't care if it's a little late. I'm just uber stoked to try your beers!

This is my first swap since my hiatus stretched across the last two. So, I'm a bit excited. Looking to be inspired to broaden my horizons a bit with this.
Ive been amazed at the quality of the beers I've received. Mine are mediocre in comparison. We have some truly expert brewers on this forum. I suspect Amanda's beers are top shelf as well.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on April 01, 2016, 11:20:58 AM
Jim, I agree with your generalized statement and specifically with Amanda's beers being fantastic
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 02, 2016, 02:12:39 PM
Packaging now Amanda. Ship out Monday .
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on April 02, 2016, 02:23:49 PM
Oooo! Them is sharin' beers! Myles will be pleased. :D
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on April 02, 2016, 02:30:22 PM
Head Hunter: crown jewel of Ohio IPAs!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on April 02, 2016, 02:32:03 PM
Packaging now Amanda. Ship out Monday .
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Ken,

I like those neck wraps. Are those intended for wine bottles, or do you have some beer-specific ones?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 02, 2016, 02:36:59 PM
Packaging now Amanda. Ship out Monday .
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Ken,

I like those neck wraps. Are those intended for wine bottles, or do you have some beer-specific ones?
Yep plain old wine bottle shrink caps...works great.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 02, 2016, 02:39:43 PM
Yeah, those wraps look nice. I like it.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 02, 2016, 02:43:02 PM
easy also-put on and hit with hair dryer on high.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 02, 2016, 11:06:20 PM
What are people making for their challenge beer? I'm doing a grapefruit IPA with centennial and cascade. Primary is finished and I just added the grapefruit. It smelled like grapefruit even before adding grapefruit.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on April 02, 2016, 11:22:44 PM
Packaging now Amanda. Ship out Monday .
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Well, aren't you a fancy packer... Mine never ends up that pretty. Nice job!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 02, 2016, 11:31:43 PM
Packaging now Amanda. Ship out Monday .
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Well, aren't you a fancy packer... Mine never ends up that pretty. Nice job!

Repurposing another Brewers packaging as sent to me...I'm typically bubble wrap all to hell and back.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on April 02, 2016, 11:34:18 PM
Packaging now Amanda. Ship out Monday .
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Well, aren't you a fancy packer... Mine never ends up that pretty. Nice job!

Repurposing another Brewers packaging as sent to me...I'm typically bubble wrap all to hell and back.

Lol bubble wrap, the Sunday newspaper, giant eagle ads, paper bags, and if I'm lucky, 30' of Amazon packing lol
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 02, 2016, 11:37:01 PM
Joe Sr, yours is on the way. I'll PM a tracking number. Hopefully UPS doesn't play soccer with it LOL
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 02, 2016, 11:56:37 PM
Sweet. Looking forward to it.

I made a simple bitter for my challenge beer. Magnum for bittering. EKG to finish.  English brown malt and Lyles golden syrup. It came out cloudy which is weird.  Bottles seem over carbed but whatever.


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 03, 2016, 12:51:59 AM
Mine is kind of an American Stout. It was fun to go back in time
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on April 03, 2016, 02:12:47 AM
My challenge beer is a smoked porter kit from LHBS, it's the second or third extract batch I made, just revisiting it and it fit into challenge regs
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: ynotbrusum on April 03, 2016, 03:03:37 AM
I will be packaging tomorrow for sending this week - trying to decide what local crafter to send along....and which of my beers are worthy of sending to a forum participant!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on April 07, 2016, 02:53:26 PM
I'll be camped out on the porch waiting on the UPS guy on the 4/30  :P

Really. I don't care if it's a little late. I'm just uber stoked to try your beers!

This is my first swap since my hiatus stretched across the last two. So, I'm a bit excited. Looking to be inspired to broaden my horizons a bit with this.

So Frank, how would you feel about your local-commercial beer being a sour fruited beer? A friend of mine (Michael Crane) started a brewery with a group last year and they've been doing some amazing things. Featured in DRAFT recently: http://draftmag.com/crane-brewing-fruit-sours/ (http://draftmag.com/crane-brewing-fruit-sours/) The Orange Gose is probably my favorite beer in existance. It's perfect.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on April 07, 2016, 03:28:34 PM
I'll be camped out on the porch waiting on the UPS guy on the 4/30  :P

Really. I don't care if it's a little late. I'm just uber stoked to try your beers!

This is my first swap since my hiatus stretched across the last two. So, I'm a bit excited. Looking to be inspired to broaden my horizons a bit with this.

So Frank, how would you feel about your local-commercial beer being a sour fruited beer? A friend of mine (Michael Crane) started a brewery with a group last year and they've been doing some amazing things. Featured in DRAFT recently: http://draftmag.com/crane-brewing-fruit-sours/ (http://draftmag.com/crane-brewing-fruit-sours/) The Orange Gose is probably my favorite beer in existance. It's perfect.

I trust your judgement! Sounds great!... I was just hoping that it wasn't Bud Light lol
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 07, 2016, 03:33:38 PM
I'll be camped out on the porch waiting on the UPS guy on the 4/30  :P

Really. I don't care if it's a little late. I'm just uber stoked to try your beers!

This is my first swap since my hiatus stretched across the last two. So, I'm a bit excited. Looking to be inspired to broaden my horizons a bit with this.

big bomber of cat p*ss for you frank   ;D

So Frank, how would you feel about your local-commercial beer being a sour fruited beer? A friend of mine (Michael Crane) started a brewery with a group last year and they've been doing some amazing things. Featured in DRAFT recently: http://draftmag.com/crane-brewing-fruit-sours/ (http://draftmag.com/crane-brewing-fruit-sours/) The Orange Gose is probably my favorite beer in existance. It's perfect.

I trust your judgement! Sounds great!... I was just hoping that it wasn't Bud Light lol
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on April 07, 2016, 08:09:05 PM
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Redzim's beers got to me yesterday, which is good because after work today I was craving a helles!

redzim's Edel Hell

Pour/appearance:

Nice clear straw color. Rocky white head that dissipates quickly.

Aroma:

I get the smell of good straw, with a subtle whiff of hops at the end.

Flavor:

I get a lot of Carr’s Water Cracker-like flavors from the first sip. Carbonation is crisp, and the beer finishes dry. I get a little bit of a pils “mineral water” thing going on, though certainly not at a level approaching that of a pils. Bitterness is balanced, the beer comes across as neither sweet nor bitter. After taking a pause from sipping on this beer, I’m getting a slight hop aftertaste. No diacetyl, no acetaldehyde or DMS.

Remarks:

This beer is crushable, and at 5.2% abv it’ll sneak up on you. The dryness of the finish just makes me want to take another sip and keep drinking! Helles is one of the favorite styles of beer, and this one is perfect after a busy day at work. Definitely outshines the Helles at my local brewpub. A keg of this beer and some outdoor work would be dangerous!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 08, 2016, 11:40:30 PM
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Redzim's beers got to me yesterday, which is good because after work today I was craving a helles!

redzim's Edel Hell

Pour/appearance:

Nice clear straw color. Rocky white head that dissipates quickly.

Aroma:

I get the smell of good straw, with a subtle whiff of hops at the end.

Flavor:

I get a lot of Carr’s Water Cracker-like flavors from the first sip. Carbonation is crisp, and the beer finishes dry. I get a little bit of a pils “mineral water” thing going on, though certainly not at a level approaching that of a pils. Bitterness is balanced, the beer comes across as neither sweet nor bitter. After taking a pause from sipping on this beer, I’m getting a slight hop aftertaste. No diacetyl, no acetaldehyde or DMS.

Remarks:

This beer is crushable, and at 5.2% abv it’ll sneak up on you. The dryness of the finish just makes me want to take another sip and keep drinking! Helles is one of the favorite styles of beer, and this one is perfect after a busy day at work. Definitely outshines the Helles at my local brewpub. A keg of this beer and some outdoor work would be dangerous!
The beer looks great. What's the details on the recipe and process....kegged, bottled?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: trentm on April 09, 2016, 12:18:14 AM
The beer looks great. What's the details on the recipe and process....kegged, bottled?

Also interested to know. Looks commercial by the bottle but could also be something like Kai's recipe:

http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php/Edel_Hell
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=5991.0
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: redzim on April 09, 2016, 12:31:33 AM
The beer looks great. What's the details on the recipe and process....kegged, bottled?

Also interested to know. Looks commercial by the bottle but could also be something like Kai's recipe:

http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php/Edel_Hell
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=5991.0

You got it... I started with Kai's recipe 5 or 6 batches ago, have tweaked the hopping up a hair, and played with the acid levels to get the right mash pH. Water is Martin's Yellow Malty profile built on top of RO. Otherwise, single infusion Denny-style batch sparge at 153F for 90min, 13 day ferment with dry W-34/70, force carbed in kegs and bottled from keg.  This batch was lagered at 33F for a good 7 weeks before I bottled.

I get my labels designed by a friend who is professional graphic designer and accepts growlers as payment  :)

Thanks for the great review Phil - this is my first swap and I'm looking forward to trying the beers I get...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hickory on April 09, 2016, 01:20:28 AM
Amanda- the northern german pils I'm sending is with weyermann Barke pils malt. im digging this malt so if you haven't tried it, you will soon.
Hell yeah! I'm about to try out a new one here as well: Ireks. I honestly didn't plan having you being my shipper, but I am super stoked about it. German Lagers are my jam.

And Frank, I'll be on the later end of the shipping window but it's only because I'm particularly excited about one of the American Wilds I am about to bottle. I want to bottle some of it plain and try dry hopping a small portion of it with Amarillo if I can figure out the logistics. If I can figure it out with my equipment, you'll get both. :D

I'll be camped out on the porch waiting on the UPS guy on the 4/30 

Really. I don't care if it's a little late. I'm just uber stoked to try your beers!

This is my first swap since my hiatus stretched across the last two. So, I'm a bit excited. Looking to be inspired to broaden my horizons a bit with this.
Ive been amazed at the quality of the beers I've received. Mine are mediocre in comparison. We have some truly expert brewers on this forum. I suspect Amanda's beers are top shelf as well.

Haha hopefully you feel the same after you get mine. Should be sending out next week at the latest. I wanted to wait on my IPA to be ready. Tried it today and it's ready.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 09, 2016, 01:24:12 AM
Amanda- the northern german pils I'm sending is with weyermann Barke pils malt. im digging this malt so if you haven't tried it, you will soon.
Hell yeah! I'm about to try out a new one here as well: Ireks. I honestly didn't plan having you being my shipper, but I am super stoked about it. German Lagers are my jam.

And Frank, I'll be on the later end of the shipping window but it's only because I'm particularly excited about one of the American Wilds I am about to bottle. I want to bottle some of it plain and try dry hopping a small portion of it with Amarillo if I can figure out the logistics. If I can figure it out with my equipment, you'll get both. :D

I'll be camped out on the porch waiting on the UPS guy on the 4/30 

Really. I don't care if it's a little late. I'm just uber stoked to try your beers!

This is my first swap since my hiatus stretched across the last two. So, I'm a bit excited. Looking to be inspired to broaden my horizons a bit with this.
Ive been amazed at the quality of the beers I've received. Mine are mediocre in comparison. We have some truly expert brewers on this forum. I suspect Amanda's beers are top shelf as well.

Haha hopefully you feel the same after you get mine. Should be sending out next week at the latest. I wanted to wait on my IPA to be ready. Tried it today and it's ready.
No rush and I'm certain they will blow me away!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on April 09, 2016, 02:13:03 AM
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redzim's Vienna Lager

FWIW, the only Vienna Lager I’m familiar with is Devil’s Backbone’s version, and even then it’s usually close to the drink by date.

Pour/appearance:

Pours with a rocky head with a creamy layer of finer foam on top. Beer is clear, though it’s hard to see in the picture. Good head retention, with nice lacing. Color is a nice amber, a touch darker than Dos Equis amber.

Aroma:

Good malty aroma. I get that “chewy” bock-like malt smell, but to a lesser degree than a bock, obviously.

Flavor:

Nice toasted bread crust flavor, crackery Pils is there too. I get a touch of diacetyl. Beer finishes dry, bitterness is balanced yet trends to slightly bitter in the aftertaste. This beer has a nice medium body, has some alcohol warmth. Carbonation is lively, perhaps a touch more than I’d prefer. (But don’t mind me, I like warm flat beer.)

Remarks:

I’ve really enjoyed both of redzim’s beers so far. Been alternating between working days and nights, and it’s nice to come home and review a beer. I’ve really enjoyed this beer. Not as crushable as the helles, but then it isn’t supposed to be. This beer would be awesome enjoyed around a bonfire on a chilly fall day. Hell, it’s a damn fine beer after a long day at work on a chilly spring day.

I have to say, I'm sad that redzim's lagers are gone. I love a good lager, but don't have the means to brew them myself yet. These beers have been a real treat, and I'm more convinced than ever than I need to scrape up the money and get a lagering freezer.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 09, 2016, 04:11:39 AM
Talk about enticing reviews! And I definitely need to step up my labeling game. Joe Sr will be stuck with my redneck 3x5 cards
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 09, 2016, 12:26:38 PM
Talk about enticing reviews! And I definitely need to step up my labeling game. Joe Sr will be stuck with my redneck 3x5 cards
I'm a blue painters tape and magic marker guy myself.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on April 09, 2016, 04:11:20 PM
I just wrote on the cap with a sharpie for mine...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on April 09, 2016, 04:43:15 PM
Cap and sharpie for me as well, but I will include some details for the trade on paper or note cards
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 12, 2016, 02:45:43 AM
Fingers crossed

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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on April 12, 2016, 03:24:11 AM
Fingers crossed

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Ugh
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 12, 2016, 12:02:11 PM
Fingers crossed

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Ugh
Damn, good luck!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 12, 2016, 01:13:13 PM
lost???hmm-hopefully someone didn't figure out its beer and drink it or holding it hostage  :o
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JJeffers09 on April 12, 2016, 03:14:02 PM
that was my first thought when I saw that.  shame shame shame.  I hope the best!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 12, 2016, 03:16:53 PM
Yeah, I hope it turns up intact. Doesn't look good, unfortunately.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on April 12, 2016, 03:18:50 PM
Yeah... This happened to me for my NHC entries in 2014.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 12, 2016, 05:43:53 PM
Fingers crossed

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What's just a little bit creepy is that I got a call from UPS at my home number last night regarding this shipment.

The lady on the phone was VERY hard to understand and I'll I got from the call was the shipment is lost and they are investigating.

Still hopeful.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 12, 2016, 08:49:53 PM
Fingers crossed

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What's just a little bit creepy is that I got a call from UPS at my home number last night regarding this shipment.

The lady on the phone was VERY hard to understand and I'll I got from the call was the shipment is lost and they are investigating.

Still hopeful.
Yup, when they told me that they had called you to verify you had not received it I thought "if you can find him, why can't you find the damn box?" I really don't understand how a box gets lost at the terminal after an arrival scan. Someone would have to walk out the door with it without scanning it first. Crazy!

The hard part is it had 8 bombers. APA, Session IPA, Challenge beer, Munich Helles, German Helles Exportbier, Saison Brett, NHC stout, and a GABF gold medal German Pils... and as it stands I only have two bombers ready to go right now, so if they cant find it poor Joe is going to be waiting till dang near July...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 12, 2016, 08:51:14 PM
Damn.  That's a loss.

And it sounds like I'm not nearly as hard to locate as I would like.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 12, 2016, 09:02:09 PM
That's the freaky part.

Oh well, we'll see what happens, huh? They told me it may take 8 days...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 12, 2016, 09:02:54 PM
That's the freaky part.

Oh well, we'll see what happens, huh? They told me it may take 8 days...

That means they're drinking one bomber per day.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 12, 2016, 09:08:29 PM
That's the freaky part.

Oh well, we'll see what happens, huh? They told me it may take 8 days...

That means they're drinking one bomber per day.
Probably LOL!

Tonight I'm crashing an IPA and my NHC rebrew. This weekend I'm brewing Helles and Dunkles. I have one bomber of Challenge left. So they either find the box or you get a new box sometime late May early June. The weather will be better for drinking beer then anyway, right?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 12, 2016, 09:30:29 PM
That's the freaky part.

Oh well, we'll see what happens, huh? They told me it may take 8 days...

That means they're drinking one bomber per day.
Probably LOL!

Tonight I'm crashing an IPA and my NHC rebrew. This weekend I'm brewing Helles and Dunkles. I have one bomber of Challenge left. So they either find the box or you get a new box sometime late May early June. The weather will be better for drinking beer then anyway, right?

Beer is good regardless of the weather.  We'll see what happens.  I won't run out in the meantime, though I have no idea when I will brew next.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 12, 2016, 10:01:36 PM
You guys should run over to the how to ship homebrew thread, and add that shipping with LoJack highly recommended ...makes tracing where it's at much easier!


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on April 13, 2016, 12:53:05 AM
If that box doesn't show up...we should all send Joe at least 1 bomber...they won't be Klicks brews...but a consolation prize of sorts...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on April 13, 2016, 12:58:33 AM
If they did walk off with the box...Do you think they're sitting around their south side backyard going...Damn...this Pils is awesome?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 13, 2016, 01:12:09 AM
South suburbs.  They're sitting in a culvert talking about how it ain't no Miller Lite.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on April 13, 2016, 01:49:08 AM
I joke...but I really hope they find the box...it's early yet...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on April 13, 2016, 01:15:19 PM
Wasn't sure if we were posting tasting reviews on this thread, so here goes.

I received a nice package from Phil M. I started off by reviewing his Mild offering.

Appearance - Crystal clear light copper color with tiny bubbles rising up throughout creating a minimal head
                     consisting of large white bubbles (fisheyes) that remained during entire session.

Aroma - Light toasty base malt with subtle caramel notes emerge as beer continues to warm. Leads into a low
            earthy hop aroma with light fruity esters. No DMS, no diacetyl.

Flavor - Sweet, toasty, biscuity malt with low caramel notes.  Slight toffee presents towards end. Malt character
            quickly overtaken by med-high hop bitterness that lingers into the finish. Light fermentation esters
           (mostly subtle pear) are pushed off the palate by a medium hop flavor that is earthy and woody. A dry
            finish that is balanced towards hop bitterness. No DMS, very slight diacetyl that complements the
            the overall flavor.

Mouthfeel - Light body with minimal carbonation. No astringency noted.

Overall impression - Phil's mild was an easy drinking session beer. The hop bitterness kept it crisp and dry.
                              Low carbonation added to the ability to easily pound a few of these (especially on a warm
                              summer evening). As I was finishing the beer, I kept thinking to myself that this probably
                             represents an English bitter better than a true mild, unless he was going for a paler hopped
                             up mild. This would make a great beer to come home to after a long days work.

Thanks for sharing Phil, well done. I am looking forward to sampling the other beers now too! 
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 13, 2016, 01:22:57 PM
Nice review, and yes you posted in the correct thread.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on April 13, 2016, 01:25:40 PM
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it, and I'm elated that there weren't any signs of infection or other awful off flavors. I'm always paranoid about that sort of thing.

The beer was supposed to be a mild, but I'd agree it ended up more like a bitter. That beer had a 3-hour boil, and I used a wrong value  calculating the 3 hour hop addition as a 1 hour addition.

This beer was also a major experiment with invert sugar. Lyle's Golden Syrup mixed with blackstrap molasses to approximate Invert No. 3. I swear that's where the caramel/toffee notes come from.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on April 13, 2016, 02:06:00 PM

This beer was also a major experiment with invert sugar. Lyle's Golden Syrup mixed with blackstrap molasses to approximate Invert No. 3. I swear that's where the caramel/toffee notes come from.

Wow!  That is cool. I did pick up some very subtle toffee notes right at the end after a few sips. Did you have any other crystal malt in there?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on April 13, 2016, 02:39:32 PM
Nope. Here's the grist:

68.6% Briess Pale Ale malt
14.9% Briess Flaked Barley
16.5% Invert No. 3 (Made from Lyle's and blackstrap.)

Cascade was used for bittering, I'd have to look at my log to find more details.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: ynotbrusum on April 14, 2016, 02:57:07 AM
I used Lyles golden syrup for years in a Boddington's style English Bitter.  I would always prime the keg with priming sugar and it had that nice dry finish, but nicely biscuity malt flavor for an edge of sweetness....loved that easy drinker and it sounds a lot like Phil's recipe.  And yes - what a great refreshment after work on a Friday or any day.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on April 14, 2016, 11:55:03 AM
My package came in from Hooper yesterday. He sent me his Pale Ale, Soma Saison, Texas Chili Stout, Not Orval, Märzen, and 2 locals from 2 breweries I had not heard of before: Hopadillo IPA from Karbach Brewing Co and Buried Hatchet Stout from Southern Star Brewing Co. Very generous package, cant wait to start trying them out tonight. Thanks again Glenn
Pete B, the beers I'm sending you need another week of conditioning and then I should get them in the mail last week of the month after verifying that I am satisfied with them
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: blair.streit on April 14, 2016, 04:39:19 PM
Hopadillo IPA from Karbach Brewing Co
Strangely I haven't had their IPA, but so far I haven't had a beer from Karbach that I didn't like. They're putting out some great stuff.
Title: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hickory on April 14, 2016, 05:27:48 PM
Hopadillo IPA from Karbach Brewing Co
Strangely I haven't had their IPA, but so far I haven't had a beer from Karbach that I didn't like. They're putting out some great stuff.

Indeed, both Karbach and Southern Star are putting out great beers. Hopadillo is on tap regularly at my local pub.

Edit: Actually Southern Stars Bombshell Blonde is another regular on tap.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on April 15, 2016, 01:07:16 AM
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Hooper's Marzen, a bonus bottle in my box o goodies.

     Crystal clear though the pic may not show it. Nice head, just over 1/4" Fine bubbles constantly coming up from the bottom.
     No hop aroma, just a nice grainy scent (best I can do) no diacetyl or dms to me
     Flavor continues with malty goodness, no hop flavor to speak of, just a little bitterness to keep it even. Short bottle fill from the end of a keg shows no sediment at all.
     Overall,  a nice bonus and I'm looking forward to the rest of his brews
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on April 15, 2016, 10:48:44 AM
Thanks for the kind review Frank...Only my second Lager...will be doing more though.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on April 19, 2016, 01:18:48 AM
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redzim's Bourbon Barrel Porter

Pour/appearance:

Dense cream colored head that lingers and laces nicely. Color is brown, but appears as a deep red when held up to the light. The beer is crystal clear, I couldn't get pics of this but despite how dark it is details can easily be seen through it.

Aroma:

The most apparent aroma is that of the bourbon, followed closely by that oaky smell characteristic to me of wood aged beers. There isn't enough of this to overpower a roasty steel though, and there are some hops detectable as well.

Flavor:

Again, the bourbon and wood are the most prominent players here. These give way to a smooth roasty/caramel/toffee malt backbone. This toffee flavor is certainly not diacetyl, as I don't detect any slickness in the mouthfeel. The beer however is very smooth, with a firm but soft bitterness. Again there are flits of hops, but not enough to hone in on what they might be.

Remarks:

This beer is excellent. I really enjoy barrel aged beers, but more and more breweries seem to be overdoing the aging these days. This leads to beers that are overwhelmed by the barrel flavors, and these beers suffer for that. redzim has managed to keep everything balanced though, and this beer shines because of that. My wife really enjoyed this beer as well.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on April 19, 2016, 01:48:04 AM
If that's Popcorn Sutton on that bottle...that is bad ass...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 19, 2016, 10:59:16 AM
If that's Popcorn Sutton on that bottle...that is bad ass...
Good eye!
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 19, 2016, 11:46:07 AM
Had to Google that one. It sounds like his body was still warm before others cashed in on his name.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: ynotbrusum on April 19, 2016, 05:39:05 PM
Everyone in the white whiskey trend now claims to have been a protege of Popcorn Sutton.  There was an interesting documentary on the guy a while back - a rugged individualist to say the least....
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on April 19, 2016, 11:37:47 PM
A review of Phil M Brown Ale....

Appearance - Dark brown with garnet highlights when held up to light. Good clarity with moderate head
                    retention consisting of an off-white head with tight condensed bubbles.

Aroma - Immediate chocolate hits the nose with some underlying toasted malt aromatics. A very light hop 
             aroma is quickly overpowered by another wave of rich chocolate character.  No apparent esters or
            fermentation flaws.  As beer warms a light roasted coffee note emerges and a slight smokiness appears

Flavor - Smooth, toasty, sweet base malt followed by moderate chocolate notes reminiscient of malt balls
           (whoppers...). A low hop flavor comes mingles with the malt as an earthy note. Med-high bitterness
           helps the beer to finish dry. Bitter-sweet chocloate and coffee linger well into the aftertaste. Light
           fermentation esters emerge as beer warms. Balance is slightly towards dry roast finish and bitterness.
           No alcohol noted.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with low-moderate carbonation. No creaminesss, no astringency.

Overall impression - A well mad brown ale, but I think it would be better judged as a porter. I loved the
                              transition in flavor from toasty base malt to the chocolate/coffee notes followed by the
                              bitterness. This aspect kept me wanting another sip. Highly drinkable beer and I would
                              definitely brew this one again if I was Phil!  Nice job!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 20, 2016, 12:38:01 AM
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Finally put together my batch to ship to cempt1.

Locals = Off Color Brewing Scurry, Half Acre Akari Shogun, 3 Floyds Yum Yum, Moody Tongue Emporers Lemon Saison.

Mine = challenge beer bitter, bourbon stout, saison, old ale, and one other to be determined. I'm out of bombers of most stuff so it's all 12 ounces.

Worked late tonight and weedy have free time since swimbo took the kids to swimming. Spring break!


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on April 20, 2016, 01:21:22 AM
A review of Phil M Brown Ale....

Appearance - Dark brown with garnet highlights when held up to light. Good clarity with moderate head
                    retention consisting of an off-white head with tight condensed bubbles.

Aroma - Immediate chocolate hits the nose with some underlying toasted malt aromatics. A very light hop 
             aroma is quickly overpowered by another wave of rich chocolate character.  No apparent esters or
            fermentation flaws.  As beer warms a light roasted coffee note emerges and a slight smokiness appears

Flavor - Smooth, toasty, sweet base malt followed by moderate chocolate notes reminiscient of malt balls
           (whoppers...). A low hop flavor comes mingles with the malt as an earthy note. Med-high bitterness
           helps the beer to finish dry. Bitter-sweet chocloate and coffee linger well into the aftertaste. Light
           fermentation esters emerge as beer warms. Balance is slightly towards dry roast finish and bitterness.
           No alcohol noted.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with low-moderate carbonation. No creaminesss, no astringency.

Overall impression - A well mad brown ale, but I think it would be better judged as a porter. I loved the
                              transition in flavor from toasty base malt to the chocolate/coffee notes followed by the
                              bitterness. This aspect kept me wanting another sip. Highly drinkable beer and I would
                              definitely brew this one again if I was Phil!  Nice job!

Glad you liked it! This one is on it's way to becoming my house beer. Still working out details obviously, but I think it'll stay pretty much like it is this time. I do plan on reducing the gravity a bit to make it more session-friendly, but that's really about it. Might try and dry it out a tad as well, but I'd see how it does with just lower gravity first.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on April 20, 2016, 12:26:03 PM
A review of Phil M Brown Ale....

Appearance - Dark brown with garnet highlights when held up to light. Good clarity with moderate head
                    retention consisting of an off-white head with tight condensed bubbles.

Aroma - Immediate chocolate hits the nose with some underlying toasted malt aromatics. A very light hop 
             aroma is quickly overpowered by another wave of rich chocolate character.  No apparent esters or
            fermentation flaws.  As beer warms a light roasted coffee note emerges and a slight smokiness appears

Flavor - Smooth, toasty, sweet base malt followed by moderate chocolate notes reminiscient of malt balls
           (whoppers...). A low hop flavor comes mingles with the malt as an earthy note. Med-high bitterness
           helps the beer to finish dry. Bitter-sweet chocloate and coffee linger well into the aftertaste. Light
           fermentation esters emerge as beer warms. Balance is slightly towards dry roast finish and bitterness.
           No alcohol noted.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with low-moderate carbonation. No creaminesss, no astringency.

Overall impression - A well mad brown ale, but I think it would be better judged as a porter. I loved the
                              transition in flavor from toasty base malt to the chocolate/coffee notes followed by the
                              bitterness. This aspect kept me wanting another sip. Highly drinkable beer and I would
                              definitely brew this one again if I was Phil!  Nice job!

Glad you liked it! This one is on it's way to becoming my house beer. Still working out details obviously, but I think it'll stay pretty much like it is this time. I do plan on reducing the gravity a bit to make it more session-friendly, but that's really about it. Might try and dry it out a tad as well, but I'd see how it does with just lower gravity first.

I really found it quite sessionable and dry already. What was the alcohol on it? This could totally be a house brew that stays in the rotation, especially in the fall and winter months. Very tasty.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: redzim on April 20, 2016, 12:36:53 PM

redzim's Bourbon Barrel Porter

[snip]

This beer is excellent. I really enjoy barrel aged beers, but more and more breweries seem to be overdoing the aging these days. This leads to beers that are overwhelmed by the barrel flavors, and these beers suffer for that. redzim has managed to keep everything balanced though, and this beer shines because of that. My wife really enjoyed this beer as well.

Phil,

Thanks for the kind review. It's always nice when a beer I think is solid, is liked by others...  and regarding the image, I though for this kind of beer I had to use either Sutton, or one of the Duck Dynasty guys!  (I'm not worried about any copyright issues as it's just homebrew...)

red
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: redzim on April 20, 2016, 12:39:02 PM


redzim's Bourbon Barrel Porter


Aroma:

The most apparent aroma is that of the bourbon, followed closely by that oaky smell characteristic to me of wood aged beers. There isn't enough of this to overpower a roasty steel though, and there are some hops detectable as well.

Flavor:

Again, the bourbon and wood are the most prominent players here. These give way to a smooth roasty/caramel/toffee malt backbone. This toffee flavor is certainly not diacetyl, as I don't detect any slickness in the mouthfeel. The beer however is very smooth, with a firm but soft bitterness. Again there are flits of hops, but not enough to hone in on what they might be.


Recipe details FWIW: this is just NB's St Paul Porter kit recipe, scaled up. I used Cascade hops, and Evan Williams Bourbon.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on April 20, 2016, 01:08:48 PM
I really found it quite sessionable and dry already. What was the alcohol on it? This could totally be a house brew that stays in the rotation, especially in the fall and winter months. Very tasty.

It seems I need stop relying on my memory, and look at my notes more. This beer was OG 1.060, and finished 1.018, so abv was about 5.5%. I thought it was closer to 6.2%.

I'd like to try and get the final gravity down to 1.014ish, and target about 5% abv.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on April 20, 2016, 03:02:47 PM
Can you give me a rundown of the hops you used for it?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on April 20, 2016, 03:08:35 PM
Simcoe, Crystal, and Columbus.

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=25492.msg328981#msg328981
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 20, 2016, 10:27:06 PM
Well, Carquest (my UPS shipper) called. UPS admitted they lost Joe's package. Now they are beginning the battle to get me reimbursement. Not holding my breath. Meanwhile, sorry Joe. But your swap package will be way late. Unless I simply bow out and Hickory ships to Joe.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 20, 2016, 10:58:15 PM
Well, Carquest (my UPS shipper) called. UPS admitted they lost Joe's package. Now they are beginning the battle to get me reimbursement. Not holding my breath. Meanwhile, sorry Joe. But your swap package will be way late. Unless I simply bow out and Hickory ships to Joe.

I'm bummed.  I was excited.

I'm still working on packaging mine. In the sense that I need to get to it.

Working long hours the next week or so.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 20, 2016, 11:02:22 PM
That really, really sucks.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 20, 2016, 11:02:51 PM
Probably I'll have a decent replacement package ready to go by late May. If you are cool with that. Challenge beer, IPA, APA, my NHC 2nd round Stout,  maybe a sour beer.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 20, 2016, 11:32:51 PM
Probably I'll have a decent replacement package ready to go by late May. If you are cool with that. Challenge beer, IPA, APA, my NHC 2nd round Stout,  maybe a sour beer.

I can wait.  Not huge on sours, but if you ship it I will drink it and report back.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on April 20, 2016, 11:42:03 PM
Probably I'll have a decent replacement package ready to go by late May. If you are cool with that. Challenge beer, IPA, APA, my NHC 2nd round Stout,  maybe a sour beer.

I can wait.  Not huge on sours, but if you ship it I will drink it and report back.
Copy that!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: cempt1 on April 21, 2016, 01:11:03 AM
Well, Carquest (my UPS shipper) called. UPS admitted they lost Joe's package. Now they are beginning the battle to get me reimbursement. Not holding my breath. Meanwhile, sorry Joe. But your swap package will be way late. Unless I simply bow out and Hickory ships to Joe.

I'm bummed.  I was excited.

I'm still working on packaging mine. In the sense that I need to get to it.

Working long hours the next week or so.
No big hurry.  Your previous picture has me excited.  I still need to get so parts to get my beer gun operational so I can ship to # ynotbrusum.  Did I just use a hash tag??

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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on April 24, 2016, 04:45:28 PM
I am sending a box of beer to JT in Ohio tomorrow.
The homebrews include three treatments of an Imperial Porter (mostly Denny's recipe):  one is plain, one spent a short time in a bourbon barrel and one has added coffee and picked up a little brett.
There is a bottle of over-three-year-old Old Ale that spent some time in a Corsair Rye Whiskey barrel and also picked up some brett along the way.
A very fresh German Pilsner.
Local commercial beers include Coppertail Unholy Tripel, Green Bench Sunshine City IPA, Cigar City Tocabaga Red and their White Oak Jai Alai, which I just scored Friday.
Everything is in 12 ounce bottles and cans.
No challenge beer.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on April 24, 2016, 04:50:35 PM
I am sending a box of beer to JT in Ohio tomorrow.
The homebrews include three treatments of an Imperial Porter (mostly Denny's recipe):  one is plain, one spent a short time in a bourbon barrel and one has added coffee and picked up a little brett.
There is a bottle of over-three-year-old Old Ale that spent some time in a Corsair Rye Whiskey barrel and also picked up some brett along the way.
A very fresh German Pilsner.
Local commercial beers include Coppertail Unholy Tripel, Green Bench Sunshine City IPA, Cigar City Tocabaga Red and their White Oak Jai Alai, which I just scored Friday.
Everything is in 12 ounce bottles and cans.
No challenge beer.
I'm definitely looking forward to this package!  Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on April 26, 2016, 11:32:24 PM
JT- all arrived safe and sound and now in the fridge chilling. thanks
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on April 27, 2016, 04:18:12 AM
JT- all arrived safe and sound and now in the fridge chilling. thanks
Awesome - I didn't expect FedEx to get it there the next day.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: mchrispen on April 27, 2016, 02:58:38 PM
I wish I didn't opt out this round... sounds like more amazing beers being passed around.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 27, 2016, 03:17:53 PM
I wish I didn't opt out this round... sounds like more amazing beers being passed around.


Me too. Next time.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 27, 2016, 03:33:46 PM
I sent Eric's package out this morning:
Challenge Beer: "Cascade of Grapefruit" IPA with light and amber dme, lots of centennial and cascade in whirlpool (yea groundbreaking), the juice and oil from whole grapefruit run through a macerating juicer, some cane sugar and more cascade and centennial all added to fermenter after krausen and more centennial and grapefruit zest added in a tea ball in the keg.
My First Lager: I guess its a German pilsner or lager, maybe Eric can tell. Made with local malt.
Maple "Tej" 2014
Mixed Berry Melomel 2014
Locals:
Element Brewing Red Giant 750 ml, Miller's Falls Ma
Brewmaster Jack Rye Porter, Northampton Ma
Spencer Abbey IPA, Spencer Ma
Extras:
Valley Malt: I asked Eric to give me a grain bill from a list of malts I have from our local malster. 4# Vienna, 1/2# Biscuit wheat, 3oz chocolate wheat
4 oz honey from this past fall's harvest of my own hives.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: rob_f on April 27, 2016, 04:46:58 PM
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Got the goods from fmader. What a haul! Thanks, man.

@redzim - UPS says yours was delivered this morning as well.

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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on April 27, 2016, 04:58:08 PM
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Got the goods from fmader. What a haul! Thanks, man.

@redzim - UPS says yours was delivered this morning as well.

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Awesome! I hope you enjoy!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 27, 2016, 05:00:43 PM
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Got the goods from fmader. What a haul! Thanks, man.

@redzim - UPS says yours was delivered this morning as well.

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Awesome! I hope you enjoy!
I'm a blue tape guy too Frank. Comes off real easy like its supposed to for painting.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on April 27, 2016, 05:02:22 PM
I sent Eric's package out this morning:
Challenge Beer: "Cascade of Grapefruit" IPA with light and amber dme, lots of centennial and cascade in whirlpool (yea groundbreaking), the juice and oil from whole grapefruit run through a macerating juicer, some cane sugar and more cascade and centennial all added to fermenter after krausen and more centennial and grapefruit zest added in a tea ball in the keg.
My First Lager: I guess its a German pilsner or lager, maybe Eric can tell. Made with local malt.
Maple "Tej" 2014
Mixed Berry Melomel 2014
Locals:
Element Brewing Red Giant 750 ml, Miller's Falls Ma
Brewmaster Jack Rye Porter, Northampton Ma
Spencer Abbey IPA, Spencer Ma
Extras:
Valley Malt: I asked Eric to give me a grain bill from a list of malts I have from our local malster. 4# Vienna, 1/2# Biscuit wheat, 3oz chocolate wheat
4 oz honey from this past fall's harvest of my own hives.

Jesus man! Now we are sending out Christmas presents too?  Awesome!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: redzim on April 27, 2016, 05:12:02 PM

Got the goods from fmader. What a haul! Thanks, man.

@redzim - UPS says yours was delivered this morning as well.

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Rob - I just opened the box and put them in the fridge. Everything in one piece - yours look fantastic as do the 3 from DC brewpubs. Can't wait to try them all!

-red

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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on April 27, 2016, 05:15:22 PM
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Got the goods from fmader. What a haul! Thanks, man.

@redzim - UPS says yours was delivered this morning as well.

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Awesome! I hope you enjoy!
I'm a blue tape guy too Frank. Comes off real easy like its supposed to for painting.

Lol seems to work best. My caps are all marked because they are surpluss caps, so I can't really write on them.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on April 28, 2016, 02:55:13 PM
Just got my package in from pete b. By random luck it came on a rare weekday off for me. Aside from the beer and mead I got hooked up with some honey and some malt for an upcoming Viennaish lager from Valley Malt. Thanks, Pete!

Here's the gratuitous money shot:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/e03e4634c3151a5fc9f44e01d0caaef5.jpg)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on April 28, 2016, 05:00:47 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 28, 2016, 05:03:53 PM
Just got my package in from pete b. By random luck it came on a rare weekday off for me. Aside from the beer and mead I got hooked up with some honey and some malt for an upcoming Viennaish lager from Valley Malt. Thanks, Pete!

Here's the gratuitous money shot:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/e03e4634c3151a5fc9f44e01d0caaef5.jpg)

Looks like you're a big Lego fan.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on April 28, 2016, 05:44:45 PM
Just got my package in from pete b. By random luck it came on a rare weekday off for me. Aside from the beer and mead I got hooked up with some honey and some malt for an upcoming Viennaish lager from Valley Malt. Thanks, Pete!

Here's the gratuitous money shot:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/e03e4634c3151a5fc9f44e01d0caaef5.jpg)

Looks like you're a big Lego fan.
I'm just a father of a 5-year old who is running out of room for the damn things lol. I'm hoping he gets good enough to build me a Lego Zymatic in a few more years.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on April 28, 2016, 10:55:29 PM
I am sending a box of beer to JT in Ohio tomorrow.
The homebrews include three treatments of an Imperial Porter (mostly Denny's recipe):  one is plain, one spent a short time in a bourbon barrel and one has added coffee and picked up a little brett.
There is a bottle of over-three-year-old Old Ale that spent some time in a Corsair Rye Whiskey barrel and also picked up some brett along the way.
A very fresh German Pilsner.
Local commercial beers include Coppertail Unholy Tripel, Green Bench Sunshine City IPA, Cigar City Tocabaga Red and their White Oak Jai Alai, which I just scored Friday.
Everything is in 12 ounce bottles and cans.
No challenge beer.
Package arrived today and beers are chilling out in the fridge.  Thanks!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on April 29, 2016, 12:00:41 AM
Had to really zoom in to catch that, at first I though he had a large candy stash in his man cave
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 29, 2016, 12:11:28 AM
Had to really zoom in to catch that, at first I though he had a large candy stash in his man cave

I step on and over Legos every day.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 29, 2016, 12:18:41 AM
Had to really zoom in to catch that, at first I though he had a large candy stash in his man cave

I step on and over Legos every day.


Same here. My son has a small-medium size Lego museum, for all practical purposes. I love stepping on them in the a.m. when I'm half asleep. Good times.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on April 29, 2016, 12:23:28 AM
My dad built me a "Lego table" that I kept all of my Legos on when I was little. It was awesome. It was just an old pink Formica countertop with casters on it that I could slide out from under my bed. I had a whole Lego city under there.  8)

Apparently the Lego table helped me keep my Legos off of the floor so my parents wouldn't step on them.  ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on April 29, 2016, 02:44:40 AM
Just packed my loot.  Shipping out in the AM.

Changed the mix a little bit.  Added some FFF Gumball Head and my coffee stout.

Looking forward to the reviews.

Picking local beers to send has been fun.  We're buried in good local breweries in Chicago. Most of them are new to me.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 29, 2016, 02:54:29 AM
I sent Eric's package out this morning:
Challenge Beer: "Cascade of Grapefruit" IPA with light and amber dme, lots of centennial and cascade in whirlpool (yea groundbreaking), the juice and oil from whole grapefruit run through a macerating juicer, some cane sugar and more cascade and centennial all added to fermenter after krausen and more centennial and grapefruit zest added in a tea ball in the keg.
My First Lager: I guess its a German pilsner or lager, maybe Eric can tell. Made with local malt.
Maple "Tej" 2014
Mixed Berry Melomel 2014
Locals:
Element Brewing Red Giant 750 ml, Miller's Falls Ma
Brewmaster Jack Rye Porter, Northampton Ma
Spencer Abbey IPA, Spencer Ma
Extras:
Valley Malt: I asked Eric to give me a grain bill from a list of malts I have from our local malster. 4# Vienna, 1/2# Biscuit wheat, 3oz chocolate wheat
4 oz honey from this past fall's harvest of my own hives.

Jesus man! Now we are sending out Christmas presents too?  Awesome!
I figured the malt is better packing material than packing peanuts. The environment and such.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: dilluh98 on April 29, 2016, 05:13:06 PM
My dad built me a "Lego table" that I kept all of my Legos on when I was little. It was awesome. It was just an old pink Formica countertop with casters on it that I could slide out from under my bed. I had a whole Lego city under there.  8)

Apparently the Lego table helped me keep my Legos off of the floor so my parents wouldn't step on them.  ;)

My wife and I are building one of these for our daughter soon. I hope it keeps the 'legos on the floor' thing to a minimum.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hickory on April 29, 2016, 07:07:59 PM
Just got my package in from pete b. By random luck it came on a rare weekday off for me. Aside from the beer and mead I got hooked up with some honey and some malt for an upcoming Viennaish lager from Valley Malt. Thanks, Pete!

Here's the gratuitous money shot:
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160428/e03e4634c3151a5fc9f44e01d0caaef5.jpg)
Looks like you are playing some music from THE BEST BAND EVER. Seriously the sword is by far my favorite band!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on April 29, 2016, 10:50:55 PM
My dad built me a "Lego table" that I kept all of my Legos on when I was little. It was awesome. It was just an old pink Formica countertop with casters on it that I could slide out from under my bed. I had a whole Lego city under there.  8)

Apparently the Lego table helped me keep my Legos off of the floor so my parents wouldn't step on them.  ;)

Probably why your brewhouse is so organized too...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on April 30, 2016, 12:26:05 AM
Looks like you are playing some music from THE BEST BAND EVER. Seriously the sword is by far my favorite band!
Yep, that's my "Gloom, Doom and Stone" Pandora station. I'm a big fan of the Sword, too. Was psyched to see them open for Metallica & Machine Head a few years back.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on April 30, 2016, 12:39:32 AM
Tonight I'm enjoying a Grapefruit IPA from pete b. It is quite clear with just a faint hint of hop haze (or maybe citrus oil haze?). The color is amber/copper that appears to have a faint pinkish-stained hue. At least that's what I'm seeing - no clue if the grapefruits were pink or white (sorry no pic!)

The nose has a great juicy citrus and stonefruit aroma. It reminds me a bit of a fruit juice cocktail. I could see this being served in a tiki glass garnished with an umbrella. On the palate I get citrus and a bit of toasty/bready malt, that quickly turns into a clinging resin note down the center of the tongue. The bitterness is firm, but not harsh. The finish is crisp, with a lingering resinous bite.

This is a really nice IPA. The grapefruit character is present, but well-balanced with the hops. It is hard to tell where the grapefruit stops and the hops begin, which is really the butter zone for this type of citrus IPA.  My personal preference would be to roll back the resin character a bit, but that's just where my palate has been as of late. But frankly, this is a damn good beer. If a small brewery put out a beer like this, it could easily be a flagship brew. Killer beer, Pete!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 30, 2016, 12:48:25 AM
Looks like you are playing some music from THE BEST BAND EVER. Seriously the sword is by far my favorite band!
Yep, that's my "Gloom, Doom and Stone" Pandora station. I'm a big fan of the Sword, too. Was psyched to see them open for Metallica & Machine Head a few years back.
I just recently noticed an "add variety" button on Pandora while putting on my Allman Brothers station. I now have an Allman Brothers/Dr Dre station. It's interesting. I used to listen to Mettalica and other metal quite a bit but it hasn't withstood the test of time for me. I really need to be in the mood and it's not too often. Actually Eric I wonder if we were at the same show way back: Metallica's And Justice... Tour with Ynwe Malmsteen at the Providence Civic Center. 1989 maybe? We actually happened to be walking past the Biltmore and found ourselves between the limos and the hotel door and Kirk and James walked by. They chatted for a minute and seemed quite nice.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on April 30, 2016, 12:49:36 AM
Tonight I'm enjoying a Grapefruit IPA from pete b. It is quite clear with just a faint hint of hop haze (or maybe citrus oil haze?). The color is amber/copper that appears to have a faint pinkish-stained hue. At least that's what I'm seeing - no clue if the grapefruits were pink or white (sorry no pic!)

The nose has a great juicy citrus and stonefruit aroma. It reminds me a bit of a fruit juice cocktail. I could see this being served in a tiki glass garnished with an umbrella. On the palate I get citrus and a bit of toasty/bready malt, that quickly turns into a clinging resin note down the center of the tongue. The bitterness is firm, but not harsh. The finish is crisp, with a lingering resinous bite.

This is a really nice IPA. The grapefruit character is present, but well-balanced with the hops. It is hard to tell where the grapefruit stops and the hops begin, which is really the butter zone for this type of citrus IPA.  My personal preference would be to roll back the resin character a bit, but that's just where my palate has been as of late. But frankly, this is a damn good beer. If a small brewery put out a beer like this, it could easily be a flagship brew. Killer beer, Pete!

Sounds great! Nice review, Eric!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 30, 2016, 12:56:54 AM
Tonight I'm enjoying a Grapefruit IPA from pete b. It is quite clear with just a faint hint of hop haze (or maybe citrus oil haze?). The color is amber/copper that appears to have a faint pinkish-stained hue. At least that's what I'm seeing - no clue if the grapefruits were pink or white (sorry no pic!)

The nose has a great juicy citrus and stonefruit aroma. It reminds me a bit of a fruit juice cocktail. I could see this being served in a tiki glass garnished with an umbrella. On the palate I get citrus and a bit of toasty/bready malt, that quickly turns into a clinging resin note down the center of the tongue. The bitterness is firm, but not harsh. The finish is crisp, with a lingering resinous bite.

This is a really nice IPA. The grapefruit character is present, but well-balanced with the hops. It is hard to tell where the grapefruit stops and the hops begin, which is really the butter zone for this type of citrus IPA.  My personal preference would be to roll back the resin character a bit, but that's just where my palate has been as of late. But frankly, this is a damn good beer. If a small brewery put out a beer like this, it could easily be a flagship brew. Killer beer, Pete!
Glad you dig it Eric. I know what you mean by not knowing where the hops begins and grapefruit ends. It actually reeked of grapefruit before adding the grapefruit. It was pink grapefruit.
The resin is more pronounced in this than a version I made a couple months ago that didn't have as much centennial in the whirlpool. Frankly I enjoy the resin character right now but it is pretty in your face. I think the grapefruit oils may accentuate it.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on April 30, 2016, 01:10:46 AM
Looks like you are playing some music from THE BEST BAND EVER. Seriously the sword is by far my favorite band!
Yep, that's my "Gloom, Doom and Stone" Pandora station. I'm a big fan of the Sword, too. Was psyched to see them open for Metallica & Machine Head a few years back.
I just recently noticed an "add variety" button on Pandora while putting on my Allman Brothers station. I now have an Allman Brothers/Dr Dre station. It's interesting. I used to listen to Mettalica and other metal quite a bit but it hasn't withstood the test of time for me. I really need to be in the mood and it's not too often. Actually Eric I wonder if we were at the same show way back: Metallica's And Justice... Tour with Ynwe Malmsteen at the Providence Civic Center. 1989 maybe? We actually happened to be walking past the Biltmore and found ourselves between the limos and the hotel door and Kirk and James walked by. They chatted for a minute and seemed quite nice.
That was junior high time frame for me and I wasn't quite in my concert-going prime yet. Actually, even though Metallica was (and still pretty much is) my favorite band growing up, I never got to see them live until the most recent tour.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on April 30, 2016, 01:29:10 AM
Looks like you are playing some music from THE BEST BAND EVER. Seriously the sword is by far my favorite band!
Yep, that's my "Gloom, Doom and Stone" Pandora station. I'm a big fan of the Sword, too. Was psyched to see them open for Metallica & Machine Head a few years back.
I just recently noticed an "add variety" button on Pandora while putting on my Allman Brothers station. I now have an Allman Brothers/Dr Dre station. It's interesting. I used to listen to Mettalica and other metal quite a bit but it hasn't withstood the test of time for me. I really need to be in the mood and it's not too often. Actually Eric I wonder if we were at the same show way back: Metallica's And Justice... Tour with Ynwe Malmsteen at the Providence Civic Center. 1989 maybe? We actually happened to be walking past the Biltmore and found ourselves between the limos and the hotel door and Kirk and James walked by. They chatted for a minute and seemed quite nice.
That was junior high time frame for me and I wasn't quite in my concert-going prime yet. Actually, even though Metallica was (and still pretty much is) my favorite band growing up, I never got to see them live until the most recent tour.
Whippersnapper!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 30, 2016, 01:45:16 AM
FWIW I saw Metallica open up for a semi-horrible 80s band (WASP) in a tiny club in Indy right after Ride The Lightning came out. They were UBER-intense then. Like maybe 400 people tops. Really cool in hindsight. Shook hands with James, though it wasn't very hard that night. I saw Metallica 5 times (I think) all together. Being a music lover I've seen a pretty cool variety of stuff, but that was a cool thing. I think the loudest show I've ever heard, ever. In comparison I like mellower stuff in my old age.....for the most part. Not always.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on April 30, 2016, 01:52:57 AM
FWIW I saw Metallica open up for a semi-horrible 80s band (WASP) in a tiny club in Indy right after Ride The Lightning came out. They were UBER-intense then. Like maybe 400 people tops. Really cool in hindsight. Shook hands with James, though it wasn't very hard that night. I saw Metallica 5 times (I think) all together. Being a music lover I've seen a pretty cool variety of stuff, but that was a cool thing. I think the loudest show I've ever heard, ever. In comparison I like mellower stuff in my old age.....for the most part. Not always.
Loudest concert I ever heard by far was Ritchie Blackmore. He was playing a club gig, but had his full arena rig going full blast. We were wearing earplugs and left about 5 songs in because it still hurt our ears.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 30, 2016, 02:01:41 AM
FWIW I saw Metallica open up for a semi-horrible 80s band (WASP) in a tiny club in Indy right after Ride The Lightning came out. They were UBER-intense then. Like maybe 400 people tops. Really cool in hindsight. Shook hands with James, though it wasn't very hard that night. I saw Metallica 5 times (I think) all together. Being a music lover I've seen a pretty cool variety of stuff, but that was a cool thing. I think the loudest show I've ever heard, ever. In comparison I like mellower stuff in my old age.....for the most part. Not always.
Loudest concert I ever heard by far was Ritchie Blackmore. He was playing a club gig, but had his full arena rig going full blast. We were wearing earplugs and left about 5 songs in because it still hurt our ears.



Such an underrated guitar player.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on April 30, 2016, 02:04:47 AM
Oak Aged Jai Alai.  Thanks Jeffy!
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on May 01, 2016, 08:50:13 PM
An afternoon stout review for PhilM...

Appearance - dark brown (mahogany) with reddish hues, good clarity with minimal head consisting of large
                     bubbles that drop quickly back into the beer

Aroma - Bittersweet chocolate with light coffee notes dominate over a moderate grainy roastiness with light
            esters, no hops, no DMS, no diacetyl.

Flavor - Toasty malt offset by a dry roast and light chocolate note in the finish. No apparent hop flavor with a
           medium-low hop bitterness. Roasted notes help keep the beer finishing dry and a light caramel note
           lingers.

Mouthfeel - Med-light body with very minimal carbonation. Light alcohol warming, no astringency.

Overall - Another sessionable offering from PhilM. A bit more CO2 would enhance the aroma and help make
             the flavor pop a bit more. I enjoyed the use of the mixed roasted malts which were not overdone as
           can be in some stouts. Wish I had paired this with some good dark chocolate or even a fat slice of
            chocolate cake.

BTW, had the Duclaw Barleywine the other day and it was delicious!  Well balanced bourbon/oak with the base
beer.  Wish I had access to more of their stuff. I would be doing some vertical tastings for sure.  Thanks again!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 01, 2016, 10:57:41 PM
Joe Sr

UPS coughed up for the lost package. I'm going to bottle my Stout in a week, along with a decent Mandarina Bavaria APA. I think that will get me up to 3 of mine, plus Challenge Beer, and I'll see what kind of locals I can scrounge up. So, with any luck at all we will get you hooked up by mid May.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 01, 2016, 11:15:16 PM
Sweet.  I'm looking forward to your stout.

Just got home from a fundraiser at one of the local haunts.  Had an oyster stout by Aquanaut brewing and Velvet Merlin from Firestone Walker.  Both were good, but Velvet Merlin was something of which I would have several.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 01, 2016, 11:18:57 PM
Velvet Merlin was something of which I would have several.


Yeah, that is just an excellent beer. Along with the vast majority of the other FW beers for that matter.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: redzim on May 02, 2016, 12:37:20 AM
Couldn't wait for May 1st, so had to crack Rob_F's Helles Bock on the last day of April, Saturday afternoon.  His label says 1.068-1.019 (= 6.8% ABV) and bottled on 12/22/15. (That aging is great planning ahead; I only managed to get my Maibock in the keg in later March this year.)

It's a nice light amber color, not super clear but clear enough for me (Rob: was this bottled conditioned? if so, there was basically no sludge in the bottom - or was it bottled from keg?). Good chunky head that lasted pretty good. Malty aroma with a little tangy pop, maybe from the yeast? or the water chemistry? Basically no hop aroma but that's the style. Taste is firm malt right up front, sweet w/o being cloying, again few if any hops but I wasn't looking for them. This beer finished with a dry malt taste (as opposed to a dry hop bitterness) that leaves you wanting that next sip. The finish has a hint of hops but not enough for me to really place them; there's also a hint of sulfury tang in the foretaste but it blends nicely with the chewy malt. I'm not a BJCP taster but IMHO this is a great Maibock and I wish I had another couple for May.  Excellent job, Rob, and thank you. Got two more of yours to try still.

(I took a pic but can't get it off my phone right now.)

red
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on May 02, 2016, 08:41:33 PM
An afternoon stout review for PhilM...

Appearance - dark brown (mahogany) with reddish hues, good clarity with minimal head consisting of large
                     bubbles that drop quickly back into the beer

Aroma - Bittersweet chocolate with light coffee notes dominate over a moderate grainy roastiness with light
            esters, no hops, no DMS, no diacetyl.

Flavor - Toasty malt offset by a dry roast and light chocolate note in the finish. No apparent hop flavor with a
           medium-low hop bitterness. Roasted notes help keep the beer finishing dry and a light caramel note
           lingers.

Mouthfeel - Med-light body with very minimal carbonation. Light alcohol warming, no astringency.

Overall - Another sessionable offering from PhilM. A bit more CO2 would enhance the aroma and help make
             the flavor pop a bit more. I enjoyed the use of the mixed roasted malts which were not overdone as
           can be in some stouts. Wish I had paired this with some good dark chocolate or even a fat slice of
            chocolate cake.

BTW, had the Duclaw Barleywine the other day and it was delicious!  Well balanced bourbon/oak with the base
beer.  Wish I had access to more of their stuff. I would be doing some vertical tastings for sure.  Thanks again!

Thanks! That was a NB extract kit, in case anyone else was wondering. This beer was actually used IN a cake that my wife baked for our St. Patrick's Day party.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 02, 2016, 09:05:37 PM
@peteb, here's your tracking info via UPS: 1Z20164A0369430285
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on May 02, 2016, 11:23:52 PM
An afternoon stout review for PhilM...

Appearance - dark brown (mahogany) with reddish hues, good clarity with minimal head consisting of large
                     bubbles that drop quickly back into the beer

Aroma - Bittersweet chocolate with light coffee notes dominate over a moderate grainy roastiness with light
            esters, no hops, no DMS, no diacetyl.

Flavor - Toasty malt offset by a dry roast and light chocolate note in the finish. No apparent hop flavor with a
           medium-low hop bitterness. Roasted notes help keep the beer finishing dry and a light caramel note
           lingers.

Mouthfeel - Med-light body with very minimal carbonation. Light alcohol warming, no astringency.

Overall - Another sessionable offering from PhilM. A bit more CO2 would enhance the aroma and help make
             the flavor pop a bit more. I enjoyed the use of the mixed roasted malts which were not overdone as
           can be in some stouts. Wish I had paired this with some good dark chocolate or even a fat slice of
            chocolate cake.

BTW, had the Duclaw Barleywine the other day and it was delicious!  Well balanced bourbon/oak with the base
beer.  Wish I had access to more of their stuff. I would be doing some vertical tastings for sure.  Thanks again!

Thanks! That was a NB extract kit, in case anyone else was wondering. This beer was actually used IN a cake that my wife baked for our St. Patrick's Day party.

Man, I bet that was delicious!  I could totally envision myself swapping cake bites with sips of your stout. Next time send me some cake too!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 03, 2016, 12:50:03 AM
@peteb, here's your tracking info via UPS: 1Z20164A0369430285
Thanks Frank! Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 03, 2016, 01:14:11 AM
UPS Ground, expected delivery is Wednesday supposedly
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 03, 2016, 11:38:14 AM
UPS Ground, expected delivery is Wednesday supposedly
That couldn't be better timing. Its being delivered to my work address and I am taking Thursday through Monday off to do work around the homestead. No worries if it's late though, I live a few miles from work.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 03, 2016, 09:15:26 PM
Cepmt1,

UPS says the package is in Birmingham.  Hopefully it gets to you soon.

Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on May 04, 2016, 01:05:37 AM
Tonight I am enjoying another one of Pete's beers - one simply labeled "German lager". It is packaged in a green Grolsch flip-top.

The beer pours up a clear golden/straw color with a creamy white head. There is just a touch of chill haze. The aroma has a crackery malt note paired with spicy/grassy hops. There is the faintest hint of skunk in the background. I'm sure the light in my fridge, coupled with the green bottle, had something to do with this. It's not enough to be off-putting; in fact it almost makes it seem more like an authentic import.

On the palate the malt comes through as saltine crackers and the inside of fresh french bread. Hops come through primarily as an herbal/spicy noble hop character, but there are fleeting moments where I can pick up a faint citrus note as well. The bitterness is smooth, but at a moderate level right on par with a German Pils. I get just a touch of diacetyl right above my threshold, but it isn't off-putting. The finish is clean with the hop flavor carrying through to the end.

Pete, for your first lager this is really well done. The diacetyl note I got would be perfectly within the limits for a Bohemian Pils. I'm pretty sensitive to D, and it was just barely noticeable to my palate. Also, if this were for a competition, I might scale back the hop flavor just a tad. The hops may be where that haze is coming from, too. But that's all just for constructive criticism - I'd be very happy drinking several liters of this on a summer day as-is.

By the way, what were your hops on this one?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 04, 2016, 02:19:58 AM
Tonight I am enjoying another one of Pete's beers - one simply labeled "German lager". It is packaged in a green Grolsch flip-top.

The beer pours up a clear golden/straw color with a creamy white head. There is just a touch of chill haze. The aroma has a crackery malt note paired with spicy/grassy hops. There is the faintest hint of skunk in the background. I'm sure the light in my fridge, coupled with the green bottle, had something to do with this. It's not enough to be off-putting; in fact it almost makes it seem more like an authentic import.

On the palate the malt comes through as saltine crackers and the inside of fresh french bread. Hops come through primarily as an herbal/spicy noble hop character, but there are fleeting moments where I can pick up a faint citrus note as well. The bitterness is smooth, but at a moderate level right on par with a German Pils. I get just a touch of diacetyl right above my threshold, but it isn't off-putting. The finish is clean with the hop flavor carrying through to the end.

Pete, for your first lager this is really well done. The diacetyl note I got would be perfectly within the limits for a Bohemian Pils. I'm pretty sensitive to D, and it was just barely noticeable to my palate. Also, if this were for a competition, I might scale back the hop flavor just a tad. The hops may be where that haze is coming from, too. But that's all just for constructive criticism - I'd be very happy drinking several liters of this on a summer day as-is.

By the way, what were your hops on this one?
Thanks for the excellent review Eric, it seems very accurate. I am totally happy with it for my first lager.
AND: diacetyl= I waited too long before a d-rest. I pick it up to but don't mind it.
Skunk: been drinking it out of a keg so yea, definitely take your word there but also kind of have a tolerance for it.makes it an authentic import. I should have put a puzzle on the cap.
And yes, too much hops.
My takeway is that I am just a few tweaks away from a really good lager and it was fun trying.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hickory on May 04, 2016, 02:44:40 AM
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Received my package from Eric today. Looking forward to getting into one of these tomorrow night. Thanks for the generous package Eric!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 04, 2016, 03:24:23 AM
PeteB, looks like your goodies arrived in MA this afternoon and will be out for delivery tomorrow as expected
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 04, 2016, 11:34:40 AM
PeteB, looks like your goodies arrived in MA this afternoon and will be out for delivery tomorrow as expected
I. Love. Getting. Boxes of beer.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 04, 2016, 11:44:32 AM
Tonight I am enjoying another one of Pete's beers - one simply labeled "German lager". It is packaged in a green Grolsch flip-top.

The beer poPilsnera clear golden/straw color with a creamy white head. There is just a touch of chill haze. The aroma has a crackery malt note paired with spicy/grassy hops. There is the faintest hint of skunk in the background. I'm sure the light in my fridge, coupled with the green bottle, had something to do with this. It's not enough to be off-putting; in fact it almost makes it seem more like an authentic import.

On the palate the malt comes through as saltine crackers and the inside of fresh french bread. Hops come through primarily as an herbal/spicy noble hop character, but there are fleeting moments where I can pick up a faint citrus note as well. The bitterness is smooth, but at a moderate level right on par with a German Pils. I get just a touch of diacetyl right above my threshold, but it isn't off-putting. The finish is clean with the hop flavor carrying through to the end.

Pete, for your first lager this is really well done. The diacetyl note I got would be perfectly within the limits for a Bohemian Pils. I'm pretty sensitive to D, and it was just barely noticeable to my palate. Also, if this were for a competition, I might scale back the hop flavor just a tad. The hops may be where that haze is coming from, too. But that's all just for constructive criticism - I'd be very happy drinking several liters of this on a summer day as-is.

By the way, what were your hops on this one?
I forgot to answer your question about hops:spalt and hallertau. I meant to ask you a question. I didn't try to make a specific style so what did it come across as to you? German Pilsner? It's 100% Pilsner malt (valley malt), 1.055-1.010, wy2124.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on May 04, 2016, 06:09:51 PM
I forgot to answer your question about hops:spalt and hallertau. I meant to ask you a question. I didn't try to make a specific style so what did it come across as to you? German Pilsner? It's 100% Pilsner malt (valley malt), 1.055-1.010, wy2124.
It's somewhere between a German Pils and a Bohemian Pils to my palate. The diacetyl gives a softness that fits a Bo Pils, but the bitterness is closer to a German Pils. It doesn't fit either style perfectly, and if you made any tweaks the next time you brewed it you could send it in either direction.

The hops definitely took the lead in this beer, but the malt character was really nice. I'm looking forward to brewing with the malt you sent me. I tasted the Biscuit Wheat malt and I just wanted to pour it in a bowl with some hot milk and eat it all on the spot.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 04, 2016, 06:24:14 PM
I forgot to answer your question about hops:spalt and hallertau. I meant to ask you a question. I didn't try to make a specific style so what did it come across as to you? German Pilsner? It's 100% Pilsner malt (valley malt), 1.055-1.010, wy2124.
It's somewhere between a German Pils and a Bohemian Pils to my palate. The diacetyl gives a softness that fits a Bo Pils, but the bitterness is closer to a German Pils. It doesn't fit either style perfectly, and if you made any tweaks the next time you brewed it you could send it in either direction.

The hops definitely took the lead in this beer, but the malt character was really nice. I'm looking forward to brewing with the malt you sent me. I tasted the Biscuit Wheat malt and I just wanted to pour it in a bowl with some hot milk and eat it all on the spot.
Thanks Eric.
I have been liking their malt. I wasn't able to offer you the cherry wood smoked malt because there wasn't enough for both of us but I plan on a cherrywood smoked porter next.
 
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 04, 2016, 06:27:25 PM
but I plan on a cherrywood smoked porter next.
 


That sounds pretty tasty, Pete !
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 04, 2016, 07:01:36 PM
but I plan on a cherrywood smoked porter next.
 


That sounds pretty tasty, Pete !
Cool thing is that Frank just sent me a cherrywood smoked porter.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 04, 2016, 07:45:33 PM
UPS tracking says your package has been delivered @peteb, does everything appear to be intact?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 04, 2016, 07:47:18 PM
UPS tracking says your package has been delivered @peteb, does everything appear to be intact?
Yep! I had it delivered to work and I put it in the walk in cooler with my car keys so I can't forget it. (Not that I would). Box is dry and undamaged.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 04, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
Beautiful. As I said earlier here or in PM, I'm open to your critique so don't hold back. I already know some of the shortcomings and would have sent better if they were bottled and ready to go. Schedule just got a little quirky in the last month or 2 so I was behind.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on May 04, 2016, 08:52:15 PM
JT- will be getting to your beers next few days into weekend...looking forward to them.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on May 05, 2016, 12:48:19 AM
From Jeffy's box.  Disclaimer: I'm not a beer judge. Just a guy that likes beer!

Imperial Porter
Aroma: greeted with dark chocolate, some dark fruit.  Smells like a treat, I want to take a sip, but first...
Appearance: bottle was generously filled, very little headspace.  Poured dark brown, almost black, but holding my glass to the setting sunlight there are ruby highlights.  A tan head stayed around for a bit before fading to a ring that stayed for the duration. 
Flavor: at last! Sweet dark, chocolate with slight roast and bitterness to balance.  This is one of those beers that you suspect is high in alcohol, but you can't taste it.  Dangerous!  Tastes like a treat.  No diacetyl or other off flavors.  Clean fermentation.
Mouthfeel: This beer is full with a creamy mouthfeel.  No harshness or astringency.  Slightly warming, but no hot alcohol. 
Overall impression:  Tonight is cold and windy in Ohio.  A storm just passed through.  I'd love to build a fire and sip another glass of this beer.  Well done, thank you Jeff!
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Post by: klickitat jim on May 05, 2016, 01:16:00 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 05, 2016, 11:13:36 AM
From Jeffy's box.  Disclaimer: I'm not a beer judge. Just a guy that likes beer!

Imperial Porter
Aroma: greeted with dark chocolate, some dark fruit.  Smells like a treat, I want to take a sip, but first...
Appearance: bottle was generously filled, very little headspace.  Poured dark brown, almost black, but holding my glass to the setting sunlight there are ruby highlights.  A tan head stayed around for a bit before fading to a ring that stayed for the duration. 
Flavor: at last! Sweet dark, chocolate with slight roast and bitterness to balance.  This is one of those beers that you suspect is high in alcohol, but you can't taste it.  Dangerous!  Tastes like a treat.  No diacetyl or other off flavors.  Clean fermentation.
Mouthfeel: This beer is full with a creamy mouthfeel.  No harshness or astringency.  Slightly warming, but no hot alcohol. 
Overall impression:  Tonight is cold and windy in Ohio.  A storm just passed through.  I'd love to build a fire and sip another glass of this beer.  Well done, thank you Jeff!
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Nice presentation!  I felt this one was a bit underattenuated for my taste.  The other versions (whiskey bbl and coffee) seemed to cut the sweetness a little better.
I am glad you seem to be enjoying it though.  Cheers!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 05, 2016, 11:16:49 AM
Looks delicious. And nice aloe plant.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 05, 2016, 06:45:44 PM
I received Mort's box today, which included not only two large commercial beers and three homebrews, but some homemade maple syrup as well.  Very nice!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: morticaixavier on May 05, 2016, 07:29:45 PM
I received Mort's box today, which included not only two large commercial beers and three homebrews, but some homemade maple syrup as well.  Very nice!

glad to hear it made it.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hickory on May 06, 2016, 12:13:37 AM
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Tried my first beer from Eric today. Quick disclaimer: I have been a picky eater all my life. I didn't have my first steak until my honeymoon at 22 years old. I can count how many burgers I've had in my life on 2 hands. My abilities to deceive flavors are pretty limited to the minimal exposure I've had as a picky eater.
Now, the first beer I tried was his challenge beer, which he describes as a Marzen style lager.

Appearance was a orange-ish copper color. Slightly hazy, but I didn't give it long to settle in the fridge. White head quickly faded to thin lacing. Aroma was a sweet malty nose with a faint hint of earthiness. Flavor was semi-sweet malt. There was a nice sting from the carbonation, which I really enjoyed. Didn't get any detection of hop aroma or flavor. Bitterness was just enough for balance. There was a flavor/mouthfeel that I have struggled to describe. After finishing the beer the best I could come up with was the aftertaste of an apple.
Overall I enjoyed the beer a lot. Thanks for sending it Eric. Look forward to diving into another one after dinner tonight.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 06, 2016, 02:40:19 AM
I had the first of Hooper's brews a while back, just forgot to post my thoughts. This was his "Hop Candi Pale Ale"

     It poured nice and brilliantly clear(can't wait til I get around to kegging) with a light amber in color. It poured with a great head that stuck around through the glass, but no lacing (likely my glassware)

     Aroma was of citrus, low malt presence. He says its chinook and simcoe. i love the spicy notes I got from the Chinook, and I detected no cat pee, but I have not ever from simcoe myself.

     Flavor wise, it really opened up for me. I got a much deeper malt note than in the aroma, and I liked that. There was a very low bitterness from the hop schedule, just enough to off set the malt notes nicely. I think the subtle sweetness I picked up was from the homemade amber candi syrup, not the malt. It all played together very nicely.

    Constant tiny bubbles coming up throughout the glass. Carbonation seemed just right to me.

Overall, I would love to drink this all summer long. I did not notice any flaws in flavor, or aroma. I think Glenn did a great job with this brew. thanks for sending it to me. I am hoping to get to the other 3 this weekend and am very excited about your "Not Orval" that did arrive in an Orval bottle, a nice touch. Did you do an entire batch in those bottles?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on May 06, 2016, 02:54:38 AM
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Tried my first beer from Eric today. Quick disclaimer: I have been a picky eater all my life. I didn't have my first steak until my honeymoon at 22 years old. I can count how many burgers I've had in my life on 2 hands. My abilities to deceive flavors are pretty limited to the minimal exposure I've had as a picky eater.
Now, the first beer I tried was his challenge beer, which he describes as a Marzen style lager.

Appearance was a orange-ish copper color. Slightly hazy, but I didn't give it long to settle in the fridge. White head quickly faded to thin lacing. Aroma was a sweet malty nose with a faint hint of earthiness. Flavor was semi-sweet malt. There was a nice sting from the carbonation, which I really enjoyed. Didn't get any detection of hop aroma or flavor. Bitterness was just enough for balance. There was a flavor/mouthfeel that I have struggled to describe. After finishing the beer the best I could come up with was the aftertaste of an apple.
Overall I enjoyed the beer a lot. Thanks for sending it Eric. Look forward to diving into another one after dinner tonight.
Glad you liked it! There is a flavor to that beer that I couldn't quite pin down, either. It was my first time brewing with S-189, and I think I'd ferment it a bit cooler next time. I'm thinking it was from an ester or fusel that the yeast threw.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on May 06, 2016, 02:57:21 PM
I had the first of Hooper's brews a while back, just forgot to post my thoughts. This was his "Hop Candi Pale Ale"

     It poured nice and brilliantly clear(can't wait til I get around to kegging) with a light amber in color. It poured with a great head that stuck around through the glass, but no lacing (likely my glassware)

     Aroma was of citrus, low malt presence. He says its chinook and simcoe. i love the spicy notes I got from the Chinook, and I detected no cat pee, but I have not ever from simcoe myself.

     Flavor wise, it really opened up for me. I got a much deeper malt note than in the aroma, and I liked that. There was a very low bitterness from the hop schedule, just enough to off set the malt notes nicely. I think the subtle sweetness I picked up was from the homemade amber candi syrup, not the malt. It all played together very nicely.

    Constant tiny bubbles coming up throughout the glass. Carbonation seemed just right to me.

Overall, I would love to drink this all summer long. I did not notice any flaws in flavor, or aroma. I think Glenn did a great job with this brew. thanks for sending it to me. I am hoping to get to the other 3 this weekend and am very excited about your "Not Orval" that did arrive in an Orval bottle, a nice touch. Did you do an entire batch in those bottles?

Thanks for the generous review Frank. When I do a Belgian style Ale, I usually keg to a 3 gal keg and bottle the rest in preferably Orval bottles...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 06, 2016, 05:14:05 PM
Your welcome Glenn. We also got into the Soma Saison and Texas Chili Stout last night.

Soma Saison: again poured brilliantly clear, just gorgeous. Nice white head of fine bubbles that did last throughout  with nice lacing (made sure to have a properly cleaned glass this time.)  A great pale yellow in color that you could read a newspaper through (does everyone remember reading newspapers?  ::))

     Aroma was all saison spice and peppery, from the yeast and Tettnang? Little to no malt notes above the mentioned phenolics.

     Taste: front of palate(as I understand it) was great. Typical saison notes and first inkling of the phenolics. As you mentioned though, the mid to late palate is bombarded by the High AA Tettnang, I think you said 11%! The heavy hop presence really did clash with the saison characteristics. I could really enjoy this in the hot summer months as a hop head, but it really came off as odd last night late in the session. I can only imagine how great it would have been if you had the AA that you planned for. Again, the hops dominated the mid to late taste, but that front of palate taste was awesome. The 6.1% ABV was not at all noticeable, making this a dangerous summer afternoon beer.

     Mouthfeel was crisp and dry as a bone. Hop bitterness kept it from being quaffable but was still enjoyable. Light body. No alcohol warming. Nice, high carbonation level.

     Overall: Despite not hitting intended target of bitterness, still an enjoyable brew. As I said above, would love to try it with the intended hop presence. What was your recipe, as I need to fit a saison into my brew schedule this summer: the garden is overflowing with Lemon Balm just waiting to add to a saison.


Texas Chili Stout: from your notes, you think the blackberries are too light, but I did get and enjoy them. They had enough presence to notice, but not sure if my palate could have named what I was tasting if you had not told me. They were a nice addition. I am assuming from the name that were some peppers used and gave off a little back of palate heat. Not overwhelming, just a nice tingling. The brew itself was easily drinkable but I did not get a lot of the usual stout notes of roasted malts, chocolate, or coffee. Coming in at 5.6%ABV, there was no alcohol heat or warming. In the end, I would drink more of this with no concerns. Not a typical stout, but definitely enjoyable. Thanks for sharing both of these with me. On the to "Not Orval" this weekend sometime
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 06, 2016, 09:18:27 PM
My girlfriend and I who are both taking some time off to pursue projects we're separately working on enjoyed two of Frank's commercial offerings last night and one of his home brewed this afternoon.
The commercial offerings were both from Rhinegeist brewery in Cincinnati. One was Peach Dodo, a gose. It was good. I like sours but not so much that I drink them regularly. I would describe it as a non funky sour, and sour it was. Frank thought it wasn't very peachy but I actually thought it had good peach flavor without being fakey.
The other commercial one from the same brewery was called Hustle and was a Rye Pale Ale. It was fantastic. Crisp, firmly bitter without being over the top, it was very refreshing and yes, I'll say it: crushable.
Edit: hit post by mistake, The homebrew review will be in the next post.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 06, 2016, 09:36:49 PM
OK: Frank's Smoked Porter:
This beer was a very dark brown/black with a reddish hue around the edge of the glass and had a 1/4 inch off white head that subsided over a minute or so. The aroma was malty sweetness with a bit of roast. I didn't detect smoke or hops aroma. The taste was also at first dominated by malt sweetness which gave way to moderate roast flavor and moderate to light smoke flavor, followed by an appropriate amount of bitterness for the sweetness that preceded it.the mouthfeel was full and the carbonation just a tad high for style.
Frank, you got a lot right with this beer that IMO a lot get wrong. I would like to know how much smoked malt you used because the subtle but not hard to discern smokiness was spot on. I also liked that the roast wasn't over the top and no hops aroma was added to compete with the roast, smoke, and maltiness. The only thing I would possibly do differently is maybe just add a small amount of toasted barley. I know I said that I appreciate that roast wasn't over the top but I felt the roast could have used just a bit more of an edge.
I enjoyed this beer and so did my girlfriend who loves stouts and porters.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 06, 2016, 10:16:33 PM
Awesome, thanks Pete. I'm out and about so no notes in front of me as to the grist. I'll add some specs when back in front of my lap top
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on May 07, 2016, 12:31:44 AM
Amanda's goodies arrived today! Two versions of her Gooaaalden sour, a cyser, a bottle of her Cabernet Sauvignon, Nebraska Sexy Betty, Crane Orange Gose, and a pound of Simpsons new double roasted malt.

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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 07, 2016, 01:07:54 AM
I'm sure you will love @amandak's brews Frank.  I know I did back in Swaptoberfest!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 07, 2016, 02:25:45 AM
Peteb the smoked porter was 9# pale LME, 1# light DME, 1# Chocolate Malt, 1# Briess Cherrywood Smoked malt, and 1/2# C60. Projected 32 IBUs of 13% AA Nugget at 60 for bittering and the only hop charge. As i said elsewhere, the Munton's Gold (x2 packs) took it from 1.071 down to 1.018. I am surprised that it was overcarbed, as I told you, my first sample at 2.5 weeks was so flat, I was afraid I had forgotten to add my sugar at bottling. I will have to revisit my numbers more closely if/when I make this again. It was a partial boil, topped off in the fermenter, so hop utilization was likely lower than would normally be for that charge, but I just followed the kit recipe, but added the DME to make sure I met challenge rules. In the end, I am glad you both enjoyed it, I know my SO loves it as well
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 07, 2016, 12:20:15 PM
Peteb the smoked porter was 9# pale LME, 1# light DME, 1# Chocolate Malt, 1# Briess Cherrywood Smoked malt, and 1/2# C60. Projected 32 IBUs of 13% AA Nugget at 60 for bittering and the only hop charge. As i said elsewhere, the Munton's Gold (x2 packs) took it from 1.071 down to 1.018. I am surprised that it was overcarbed, as I told you, my first sample at 2.5 weeks was so flat, I was afraid I had forgotten to add my sugar at bottling. I will have to revisit my numbers more closely if/when I make this again. It was a partial boil, topped off in the fermenter, so hop utilization was likely lower than would normally be for that charge, but I just followed the kit recipe, but added the DME to make sure I met challenge rules. In the end, I am glad you both enjoyed it, I know my SO loves it as well
Thanks Frank. I would say that the carbonation only appeared high for the first few sips. Maybe the combination of the travels and an overzealous pour resulted in the carbonation being very active to start. Also, since it was bottle carbed maybe I got some sediment in there which caused the co2 to be active and tingly then die down. It's good to know that you put one pound of smoked malt for 5 gallons. I have a different smoked cherrywood malt from my local malster so it will still be a guess but it's a starting point.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: redzim on May 08, 2016, 02:50:26 AM


redzim's Vienna Lager

FWIW, the only Vienna Lager I’m familiar with is Devil’s Backbone’s version, and even then it’s usually close to the drink by date.



Just in case no one else said this, Negro Modelo is an OK Vienna-style lager, Brooklyn Brewery's regular lager (greenish label) is also called Vienna-style, and SN has thrown a Vienna in some mix-packs over the years (I found one this winter in a mixed SN 12-pack here in New York).  I tasted all three of those with the batch of Vienna I sent you Phil, and Brooklyn's was the closest match to mine. The Modelo was the weakest/wateriest (not surprising as it's the only macro of the lot). All 4 beers had their differences but were clearly of the same style.
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on May 08, 2016, 03:02:33 AM
redzim, I haven't forgotten that I've still got your final beer, as well as your commercial examples to review. Late season cold and some allergies aren't the best for tasting fine brews.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 08, 2016, 05:02:03 PM
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The first of Mort's beer-swap beers.  So malty it reminds me of pumpernickel.

Trying to post pictures makes me feel like an idiot.
This would be a photo of Queen City Brewery's Munich Dunkel, from Burlington, Vt.
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I give up.  20 minutes is too much time and I have a beer to enjoy.

Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: cempt1 on May 08, 2016, 09:38:43 PM
Ynotbrusum, I will pack and ship next weekend. Sorry for the delay. Life got in the way!

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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: ynotbrusum on May 09, 2016, 01:23:09 AM
Ynotbrusum, I will pack and ship next weekend. Sorry for the delay. Life got in the way!

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Not a problem - take your time, I have lots of beer and there is no rush.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on May 09, 2016, 04:50:59 PM
Packaging now Amanda. Ship out Monday .
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Well, aren't you a fancy packer... Mine never ends up that pretty. Nice job!

Repurposing another Brewers packaging as sent to me...I'm typically bubble wrap all to hell and back.

Well, this beautiful package job found it's way back to Ohio via AmandaK. I'll be hanging onto it for my next beer shipment. It should be interesting to see how many times this gets shipped back and forth across the country.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on May 09, 2016, 05:15:40 PM
Packaging now Amanda. Ship out Monday .
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Well, aren't you a fancy packer... Mine never ends up that pretty. Nice job!

Repurposing another Brewers packaging as sent to me...I'm typically bubble wrap all to hell and back.

Well, this beautiful package job found it's way back to Ohio via AmandaK. I'll be hanging onto it for my next beer shipment. It should be interesting to see how many times this gets shipped back and forth across the country.
Well it's gone Cali to Ohio, Ohio to Kansas , and Kansas to Ohio.....lots of miles!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on May 09, 2016, 05:24:39 PM
And no one has even enjoyed a sample yet?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on May 09, 2016, 05:30:40 PM
And no one has even enjoyed a sample yet?

Nope. I have to wait until next week when my brew partner gets back into town. I have tried the home made cabernet sauvignon that Amanda sent to me. It is rather amazing and very well could have twisted my arm to test the waters in wine making.
Title: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on May 09, 2016, 09:00:32 PM
And no one has even enjoyed a sample yet?

cracked JT's German Pils few minutes ago....more to follow.

So appearance is crystal clear light straw- pale and slightly golden.  Great 2-3 finger foam that persists , eventually settling in to nice foam cap throughout the consumption. Lacing is very nice.
Aroma is of sweet hay, gram cracker.maybe tad sulfur which is good IMO.
Great mouthfeel- dry, crisp and Begs for another sip. Balance of hop and malt is very good.
Absolutely no flaws / off flavors.

JT says this is his 1st German Pils. Waiting on his recipe , but I will say this is a very good representation of style.
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on May 10, 2016, 01:05:47 AM
And no one has even enjoyed a sample yet?

cracked JT's German Pils few minutes ago....more to follow.

So appearance is crystal clear light straw- pale and slightly golden.  Great 2-3 finger foam that persists , eventually settling in to nice foam cap throughout the consumption. Lacing is very nice.
Aroma is of sweet hay, gram cracker.maybe tad sulfur which is good IMO.
Great mouthfeel- dry, crisp and Begs for another sip. Balance of hop and malt is very good.
Absolutely no flaws / off flavors.

JT says this is his 1st German Pils. Waiting on his recipe , but I will say this is a very good representation of style.
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Thanks Ken!  I didn't realize you had already posted a review while we were PMing.  Glad you enjoyed the beer, my keg just kicked on Saturday!  Time to brew another. 
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 10, 2016, 03:34:19 PM
Joe, its looking like shipping tomorrow. My old school APA (bronze in Ben, Or.) The Challenge Stout. My NHC Stout. A Mandarina Bavaria Pale. Then a couple locals.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 10, 2016, 03:37:10 PM
Fingers crossed.  Sounds like a nice selection.  I'm planning a stout for an upcoming brew.  It will be nice to sample yours as I make my plans.

When I will get around to brewing again, I have no idea.  Little League started up two weeks ago and I think it will eat more time than I can possibly imagine.  But I can brew when the kids are older and want nothing to do with me.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 10, 2016, 03:40:19 PM
When I will get around to brewing again, I have no idea.  Little League started up two weeks ago and I think it will eat more time than I can possibly imagine.  But I can brew when the kids are older and want nothing to do with me.


Yeah, I'm in the same boat right now with the kids' activities. Brewing less than I have in years. Temporarily.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on May 10, 2016, 03:43:52 PM
When I will get around to brewing again, I have no idea.  Little League started up two weeks ago and I think it will eat more time than I can possibly imagine.  But I can brew when the kids are older and want nothing to do with me.


Yeah, I'm in the same boat right now with the kids' activities. Brewing less than I have in years. Temporarily.
Same sports, motorcycle season .... Life! I did get that 007 azacca amarillo IPA in Sunday.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 10, 2016, 03:45:21 PM
When I will get around to brewing again, I have no idea.  Little League started up two weeks ago and I think it will eat more time than I can possibly imagine.  But I can brew when the kids are older and want nothing to do with me.


Yeah, I'm in the same boat right now with the kids' activities. Brewing less than I have in years. Temporarily.
Same sports, motorcycle season .... Life! I did get that 007 azacca amarillo IPA in Sunday.


Nice!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on May 10, 2016, 03:46:39 PM
When I will get around to brewing again, I have no idea.  Little League started up two weeks ago and I think it will eat more time than I can possibly imagine.  But I can brew when the kids are older and want nothing to do with me.


Yeah, I'm in the same boat right now with the kids' activities. Brewing less than I have in years. Temporarily.
Same sports, motorcycle season .... Life! I did get that 007 azacca amarillo IPA in Sunday.


Nice!
Smells great- can't wait.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 10, 2016, 03:57:44 PM
Smells great- can't wait.

Those are all nice hops. Sounds killer.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 10, 2016, 04:04:41 PM
When I will get around to brewing again, I have no idea.  Little League started up two weeks ago and I think it will eat more time than I can possibly imagine.  But I can brew when the kids are older and want nothing to do with me.


Yeah, I'm in the same boat right now with the kids' activities. Brewing less than I have in years. Temporarily.
Same sports, motorcycle season .... Life! I did get that 007 azacca amarillo IPA in Sunday.

Don't get me started on the motorcycle.  I own one.  Ride it?  Not really.  But I do start it up now and then.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 10, 2016, 04:47:44 PM
Yup, its getting nice out. Time to start brewing beers that can or need to sit in primarily a little longer. Saisons, sour beers... But first I'm doing a couple more lagers and a couple more IPAs
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 12, 2016, 12:07:07 AM
I am finally having the first of Morticai's homebrews, the 2015 Maple Barleywine.
He also sent some homemade maple syrup, so we made savory French toast for dinner, with sliced French bread, cherry wood smoked bacon and some poblano peppers in the mix.  Mmmm, good....
The beer poured with little to no head, but left persistent lacework in the glass, so it wasn't highly carbonated, but had enough CO2 to offset some of the sweetness.
It was a bit cloudy, amber colored.
Maple aroma and flavor was light, but I would expect that since it is a highly fermentable sugar.
This was a very full bodied beer with a strong malt sweetness (mostly caramel with some dark bread flavor) and a noticible alcohol warmth.  It had a significant hop flavor - not citrusy, but more spicy, and a sweet and bitter finish.
Overall impression was of a very fresh American Barleywine and it accompanied the French toast well.
I am looking forward to comparing it to the other version he sent, the 2012 edition.
This was a very big beer, with strong but clean alcohol flavors, high hop flavor and bitterness and strong malt flavor.  Again, I am really looking forward to the older version to see how it aged.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on May 12, 2016, 05:37:35 AM
I've been battling a nasty combo of allergies and a cold lately, so I haven't been doing much imbibing lately. I finally did get to sit down with some of Pete's Mixed Berry Melomel:

The color is amber/ruby with decent clarity and good legs. On the nose I get an even mix of berry notes (raspberry preserves jumps out in particular) and honey aromatics. There is a familiar sweet woody-spice note (I tend to pick it up as cinnamon, but it's not quite that). I pick up on that same aromatic quite often from the wildflower honey from my local apiaries. There is a bit of alcohol when you swirl up the glass and take a deep inhale, but that dissipates rather quickly.

At this point I'll interject and mention that the only still meads I've had are semi-sweet or sweet, mostly melomels from Moonlight Meadery or my own meads in a similar vein. The aroma of Pete's melomel is very similar to Desire from Moonlight, as a matter of fact. Needless to say, I was totally caught off guard when I took a sip and found that this was quite a bit drier than I was prepared for. I literally said WTF out loud in an empty room.

After the initial perception mismatch, I went back in with a more prepared palate. The mead is not bone-dry, but it is much closer to a red wine than a dessert wine. The berry character is there, along with some tannic berry-seed character. There is not a huge honey flavor (although it present). That woody note is still there and pairs well with the red wine vibe. The finish has some blueberry skin and more fleeting honey notes.

This is a really nice mead. I still have a bit left and I look forward to enjoying it with a meal. It certainly would be a nice substitute to a jammy red wine like a Red Zinfandel. Another great one, Pete!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 12, 2016, 12:29:41 PM
I've been battling a nasty combo of allergies and a cold lately, so I haven't been doing much imbibing lately. I finally did get to sit down with some of Pete's Mixed Berry Melomel:

The color is amber/ruby with decent clarity and good legs. On the nose I get an even mix of berry notes (raspberry preserves jumps out in particular) and honey aromatics. There is a familiar sweet woody-spice note (I tend to pick it up as cinnamon, but it's not quite that). I pick up on that same aromatic quite often from the wildflower honey from my local apiaries. There is a bit of alcohol when you swirl up the glass and take a deep inhale, but that dissipates rather quickly.

At this point I'll interject and mention that the only still meads I've had are semi-sweet or sweet, mostly melomels from Moonlight Meadery or my own meads in a similar vein. The aroma of Pete's melomel is very similar to Desire from Moonlight, as a matter of fact. Needless to say, I was totally caught off guard when I took a sip and found that this was quite a bit drier than I was prepared for. I literally said WTF out loud in an empty room.

After the initial perception mismatch, I went back in with a more prepared palate. The mead is not bone-dry, but it is much closer to a red wine than a dessert wine. The berry character is there, along with some tannic berry-seed character. There is not a huge honey flavor (although it present). That woody note is still there and pairs well with the red wine vibe. The finish has some blueberry skin and more fleeting honey notes.

This is a really nice mead. I still have a bit left and I look forward to enjoying it with a meal. It certainly would be a nice substitute to a jammy red wine like a Red Zinfandel. Another great one, Pete!
Thanks for the review Eric. Its funny because I almost "warned" you that we often make our meads dry and the ones I sent you are no exception but I didn't want to give you too much info up front. I have gathered from some of your posts about mead and cider that you have a sweet tooth and my tastes run opposite. I almost never eat dessert and enjoy cooking eating savory food but hate baking cakes etc. I don't think I have ever found a commercial mead that I didn't find too sweet. In fact I know that Moonlight Meadery is well regarded but everything I have tried from them is cloying, again to my tastes.
So the red wine thing is exactly what this is meant to be. This is essentially our house table wine and we have a bottle of this with dinner pretty often. I would say that 95% of our meads drink like wine due to our tastes. We drink a lot of berry melomels that are red wine like in the winter at cellar temps and a lot of chilled white wine-like meads in the summer: peach, pear, cyser, wild grape, dandelion etc. We occasionally make a sweeter, higher alcohol spiced elderberry or spiced cyser for sipping in front of the fireplace in the winter
 Like all of our melomels this one (raspberry, elderberry, blackberry, blueberry) is made from fruit that we harvested or foraged on our land or nearby and either honey from our hives or an apiary a few miles away.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on May 12, 2016, 12:42:22 PM
I've been battling a nasty combo of allergies and a cold lately, so I haven't been doing much imbibing lately. I finally did get to sit down with some of Pete's Mixed Berry Melomel:

The color is amber/ruby with decent clarity and good legs. On the nose I get an even mix of berry notes (raspberry preserves jumps out in particular) and honey aromatics. There is a familiar sweet woody-spice note (I tend to pick it up as cinnamon, but it's not quite that). I pick up on that same aromatic quite often from the wildflower honey from my local apiaries. There is a bit of alcohol when you swirl up the glass and take a deep inhale, but that dissipates rather quickly.

At this point I'll interject and mention that the only still meads I've had are semi-sweet or sweet, mostly melomels from Moonlight Meadery or my own meads in a similar vein. The aroma of Pete's melomel is very similar to Desire from Moonlight, as a matter of fact. Needless to say, I was totally caught off guard when I took a sip and found that this was quite a bit drier than I was prepared for. I literally said WTF out loud in an empty room.

After the initial perception mismatch, I went back in with a more prepared palate. The mead is not bone-dry, but it is much closer to a red wine than a dessert wine. The berry character is there, along with some tannic berry-seed character. There is not a huge honey flavor (although it present). That woody note is still there and pairs well with the red wine vibe. The finish has some blueberry skin and more fleeting honey notes.

This is a really nice mead. I still have a bit left and I look forward to enjoying it with a meal. It certainly would be a nice substitute to a jammy red wine like a Red Zinfandel. Another great one, Pete!

 Like all of our melomels this one (raspberry, elderberry, blackberry, blueberry) is made from fruit that we harvested or foraged on our land or nearby and either honey from our hives or an apiary a few miles away.

That is so cool. Can I move in?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on May 12, 2016, 01:04:45 PM
Its funny because I almost "warned" you that we often make our meads dry and the ones I sent you are no exception but I didn't want to give you too much info up front.
<snip>
 Like all of our melomels this one (raspberry, elderberry, blackberry, blueberry) is made from fruit that we harvested or foraged on our land or nearby and either honey from our hives or an apiary a few miles away.
It was cool to taste this one "blind". I definitely picked up the raspberries in the aroma and blueberries in the finish. It will be cool to retaste with a bit more info the second time around.

I'm assuming that this was made with "wildflower" honey rather than varietal honey? It was pretty cool to pick up some of the same "terroir" that I get from my local wildflower honey down here.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 12, 2016, 01:21:11 PM
Its funny because I almost "warned" you that we often make our meads dry and the ones I sent you are no exception but I didn't want to give you too much info up front.
<snip>
 Like all of our melomels this one (raspberry, elderberry, blackberry, blueberry) is made from fruit that we harvested or foraged on our land or nearby and either honey from our hives or an apiary a few miles away.
It was cool to taste this one "blind". I definitely picked up the raspberries in the aroma and blueberries in the finish. It will be cool to retaste with a bit more info the second time around.

I'm assuming that this was made with "wildflower" honey rather than varietal honey? It was pretty cool to pick up some of the same "terroir" that I get from my local wildflower honey down here.
Yes, "wildflower", and yes there is likely similar forage near you as near me. Dandelion, clover, fruit trees (including wild cherry, shad etc.) in the spring/summer harvests and goldenrod, clover, asters etc. in late summer/fall. Did I send you a sample of our honey?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 12, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
I've been battling a nasty combo of allergies and a cold lately, so I haven't been doing much imbibing lately. I finally did get to sit down with some of Pete's Mixed Berry Melomel:

The color is amber/ruby with decent clarity and good legs. On the nose I get an even mix of berry notes (raspberry preserves jumps out in particular) and honey aromatics. There is a familiar sweet woody-spice note (I tend to pick it up as cinnamon, but it's not quite that). I pick up on that same aromatic quite often from the wildflower honey from my local apiaries. There is a bit of alcohol when you swirl up the glass and take a deep inhale, but that dissipates rather quickly.

At this point I'll interject and mention that the only still meads I've had are semi-sweet or sweet, mostly melomels from Moonlight Meadery or my own meads in a similar vein. The aroma of Pete's melomel is very similar to Desire from Moonlight, as a matter of fact. Needless to say, I was totally caught off guard when I took a sip and found that this was quite a bit drier than I was prepared for. I literally said WTF out loud in an empty room.

After the initial perception mismatch, I went back in with a more prepared palate. The mead is not bone-dry, but it is much closer to a red wine than a dessert wine. The berry character is there, along with some tannic berry-seed character. There is not a huge honey flavor (although it present). That woody note is still there and pairs well with the red wine vibe. The finish has some blueberry skin and more fleeting honey notes.

This is a really nice mead. I still have a bit left and I look forward to enjoying it with a meal. It certainly would be a nice substitute to a jammy red wine like a Red Zinfandel. Another great one, Pete!

 Like all of our melomels this one (raspberry, elderberry, blackberry, blueberry) is made from fruit that we harvested or foraged on our land or nearby and either honey from our hives or an apiary a few miles away.

That is so cool. Can I move in?
If your willing to work your ass off, yes. :)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on May 12, 2016, 01:28:06 PM
Its funny because I almost "warned" you that we often make our meads dry and the ones I sent you are no exception but I didn't want to give you too much info up front.
<snip>
 Like all of our melomels this one (raspberry, elderberry, blackberry, blueberry) is made from fruit that we harvested or foraged on our land or nearby and either honey from our hives or an apiary a few miles away.
It was cool to taste this one "blind". I definitely picked up the raspberries in the aroma and blueberries in the finish. It will be cool to retaste with a bit more info the second time around.

I'm assuming that this was made with "wildflower" honey rather than varietal honey? It was pretty cool to pick up some of the same "terroir" that I get from my local wildflower honey down here.
Yes, "wildflower", and yes there is likely similar forage near you as near me. Dandelion, clover, fruit trees (including wild cherry, shad etc.) in the spring/summer harvests and goldenrod, clover, asters etc. in late summer/fall. Did I send you a sample of our honey?
Yes you did. I haven't cracked into it yet, but I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on May 12, 2016, 05:15:34 PM
I've been battling a nasty combo of allergies and a cold lately, so I haven't been doing much imbibing lately. I finally did get to sit down with some of Pete's Mixed Berry Melomel:

The color is amber/ruby with decent clarity and good legs. On the nose I get an even mix of berry notes (raspberry preserves jumps out in particular) and honey aromatics. There is a familiar sweet woody-spice note (I tend to pick it up as cinnamon, but it's not quite that). I pick up on that same aromatic quite often from the wildflower honey from my local apiaries. There is a bit of alcohol when you swirl up the glass and take a deep inhale, but that dissipates rather quickly.

At this point I'll interject and mention that the only still meads I've had are semi-sweet or sweet, mostly melomels from Moonlight Meadery or my own meads in a similar vein. The aroma of Pete's melomel is very similar to Desire from Moonlight, as a matter of fact. Needless to say, I was totally caught off guard when I took a sip and found that this was quite a bit drier than I was prepared for. I literally said WTF out loud in an empty room.

After the initial perception mismatch, I went back in with a more prepared palate. The mead is not bone-dry, but it is much closer to a red wine than a dessert wine. The berry character is there, along with some tannic berry-seed character. There is not a huge honey flavor (although it present). That woody note is still there and pairs well with the red wine vibe. The finish has some blueberry skin and more fleeting honey notes.

This is a really nice mead. I still have a bit left and I look forward to enjoying it with a meal. It certainly would be a nice substitute to a jammy red wine like a Red Zinfandel. Another great one, Pete!

 Like all of our melomels this one (raspberry, elderberry, blackberry, blueberry) is made from fruit that we harvested or foraged on our land or nearby and either honey from our hives or an apiary a few miles away.

That is so cool. Can I move in?
If your willing to work your ass off, yes. :)

 ;D ;D.  I can forage with the best of 'em. Now where is that wild leek?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 12, 2016, 07:32:35 PM
I've been battling a nasty combo of allergies and a cold lately, so I haven't been doing much imbibing lately. I finally did get to sit down with some of Pete's Mixed Berry Melomel:

The color is amber/ruby with decent clarity and good legs. On the nose I get an even mix of berry notes (raspberry preserves jumps out in particular) and honey aromatics. There is a familiar sweet woody-spice note (I tend to pick it up as cinnamon, but it's not quite that). I pick up on that same aromatic quite often from the wildflower honey from my local apiaries. There is a bit of alcohol when you swirl up the glass and take a deep inhale, but that dissipates rather quickly.

At this point I'll interject and mention that the only still meads I've had are semi-sweet or sweet, mostly melomels from Moonlight Meadery or my own meads in a similar vein. The aroma of Pete's melomel is very similar to Desire from Moonlight, as a matter of fact. Needless to say, I was totally caught off guard when I took a sip and found that this was quite a bit drier than I was prepared for. I literally said WTF out loud in an empty room.

After the initial perception mismatch, I went back in with a more prepared palate. The mead is not bone-dry, but it is much closer to a red wine than a dessert wine. The berry character is there, along with some tannic berry-seed character. There is not a huge honey flavor (although it present). That woody note is still there and pairs well with the red wine vibe. The finish has some blueberry skin and more fleeting honey notes.

This is a really nice mead. I still have a bit left and I look forward to enjoying it with a meal. It certainly would be a nice substitute to a jammy red wine like a Red Zinfandel. Another great one, Pete!

 Like all of our melomels this one (raspberry, elderberry, blackberry, blueberry) is made from fruit that we harvested or foraged on our land or nearby and either honey from our hives or an apiary a few miles away.

That is so cool. Can I move in?
If your willing to work your ass off, yes. :)

 ;D ;D.  I can forage with the best of 'em. Now where is that wild leek?
Ramps are one thing I can't find despite lots of forest and looking hard. I have cultivated a little patch from some I bought at a local market but although they come up each year they are not multiplying.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on May 12, 2016, 08:10:33 PM
JT's American wheat with rye.

waiting on the grist and yeast used-this is a very quaffable quenching American wheat. Great thick foam that slowly settles to nice thin cap. highly carbonated as I would expect from this style. nice golden yellow color and there's slight haze with no sediment. the esters are very slight yet the yeast dominates in aroma and taste. I'm not picking up very much rye-and that might have been the intent so no issue there for me. the body and mouthfeel is just right and the finish is nice and crisp with little tartness. this almost starts to remind me of a blonde....really enjoyed this beer. nicely done and good luck keeping this one for very long!
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on May 12, 2016, 09:06:13 PM
That looks delicious for my 80F May afternoon here in Western, NY!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on May 12, 2016, 09:11:27 PM
That looks delicious for my 80F May afternoon here in Western, NY!

its tasty. where in western NY..I grew up there.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on May 12, 2016, 09:14:50 PM
Fredonia.  Just south of Buffalo by about 1 hr (50 miles). I live about 1.5 miles from SUNY Fredonia and about 3 miles from Lake Erie.   

Where did you grow up?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on May 12, 2016, 09:26:51 PM
Scio/ wellsville. Know your area well


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on May 12, 2016, 09:58:28 PM
Scio/ wellsville. Know your area well


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Ha!  Classic local area.  I went to high school in Geneseo and we used to play a lot of Sectional tournament games in Scio.
Title: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on May 12, 2016, 10:02:00 PM
Yes we played sectional games there for baseball and soccer.

I went and graduated from scio in 1989.
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on May 12, 2016, 10:07:06 PM
I am a bit behind you.  Graduated in 94. Remember your fields well.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on May 13, 2016, 02:36:54 AM
JT's American wheat with rye.

waiting on the grist and yeast used-this is a very quaffable quenching American wheat. Great thick foam that slowly settles to nice thin cap. highly carbonated as I would expect from this style. nice golden yellow color and there's slight haze with no sediment. the esters are very slight yet the yeast dominates in aroma and taste. I'm not picking up very much rye-and that might have been the intent so no issue there for me. the body and mouthfeel is just right and the finish is nice and crisp with little tartness. this almost starts to remind me of a blonde....really enjoyed this beer. nicely done and good luck keeping this one for very long!
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Glad you liked it Ken.  Recipe credit goes to Jamil on this beer though.  It's basically his Kent's Hollow Leg rye variant recipe from Brewing Classic Styles. 
50% Rahr Pale Ale Malt
25% Weyermann Wheat Malt
25% Weyermann Rye Malt
1 oz Willamette first wort
.3 oz Willamette 5 min
.3 oz Centennial flame out
WLP 320 or Wyeast 1010 (I failed to note which one I used and don't remember)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hickory on May 13, 2016, 07:28:14 PM
Hey Jim! Been trying to get ahold of you. I'm having trouble shipping out to you. Check your pm's and get back to me.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 13, 2016, 08:44:45 PM
Hey Jim! Been trying to get ahold of you. I'm having trouble shipping out to you. Check your pm's and get back to me.
Sent you a PM
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 14, 2016, 12:08:04 PM
I had Frank's IPA and Double Brown Hazelnut Ale last weekend and meant to post right away so didn't take notes, but I remember both.
The IPA was a nice orange color, fairly clear for an IPA, with a medium size white head which dissipated slowly and had nice lacing. It had excellent hops aroma, heavy on the citrus. The flavor was also dominated by citrus hop flavor, grapefruit and oranges more than lemon to my palate. The malt profile was nice, not two sweet but not flabby either, it supported the hops starring role nicely. The finish was a firm but not overbearing bitterness with lingering citrus. Nice and dry at the end. I can see why this is Frank's house IPA and it definitely tasted like a finished recipe, I would gladly pay for a six pack of this to await me in the fridge after working outside on a Saturday afternoon.

The Hazelnut Brown was a beautiful reddish brown, pretty dark, almost mahogany as I remember with a head of fine bubbles that subsided quickly. The aroma was sweet malt and Hazelnut. No hops aroma that I could pick up.The taste again was led by a sweet, rich malt flavor which was quickly joined by the Hazelnut and I didn't get much if any bitterness. The Hazelnut was nice, I assume it was extract and a heavy hand could have easily made this beer go south but it was just right for the body and sweetness of this beer. Speaking of body this beer did have a very smooth, full mouthfeel. I could picture this beer reading a book in front of the fireplace accompanied by a little neat rye or scotch as my only libation on a relaxing winter evening. The one piece of feedback I have is that this beer is a bit sweeter than I would shoot for given my tastes and maybe I would shoot for a little bitter in the finish.
Thanks Frank, I'm enjoying your beer and have one left, probably for tonight.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 14, 2016, 02:42:06 PM
Thanks so much for the great reviews Pete. The IPA came straight from these pages, maybe f Mader's grist or erockrph. 75/20/5 2row, munich I, and victory. Bittered with Columbus and generous portions of amarillo, citra, Centennial and Simcoe throughout.
The brown is still too sweet for me as well. The missus loves it although she told me 2 nights ago that she felt this iteration was a lot more bitter than my previous 2 attempts.  It has a large portion of honey malt in it and my next attempt will be greatly reducing that. The local brewer tells me that they use either magnum or northern brewer for bittering. He also said it doesn't matter which, as they really aren't going for a bitterness factor. I agree with you though and will likely go higher in the future. They market it as 30 IBUS in a 1.100 OG brew at 10%. I have struggled to find the right combination to hit that attenuation, first attempt did not finish and was really sweet. Second wound up close to 11% ABV. This batch started a little short at 1.096 but finished around 1.012 I think. So again should be much drier than it drinks. I really think the honey malt is throwing it off. Thanks again for the reviews and I am glad you enjoyed them. Just waking up, I had a hard time remembering what was left, but now I know it's Jamil Z's Evil Twin. Second time for that brew and I am really liking it, hope you do too.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 15, 2016, 07:04:32 PM
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I am enjoying another of the commercial beers that Morticai sent.  This one is an American Sour with Cherries, a collaboration with Pink Boots Society, brewed at Hogback Mountain.
It pours with a big slightly pink mostly white head that fades quickly, but still leaves nice lacework.  The beer has a bit of chill haze - it seems to clear up in the glass and on the second pour as I am drinking.  It has a pretty pink color.
Aromas are very light, with no real sourness or cherries - my wife says, "honey on toast".
Flavor is very tart, I think mostly from the cherries, but has some added complexity from the fermentation.  Cherry flavor is low as is the bready malt contribution.  Finish is dry and tart.  Medium-thin body, smooth CO2 and a puckering finish.
This is a very refreshing beer. 
I wonder if Pink Boots made this same beer all over the country or if they changed it up in different breweries?  I may have seen a version of it somewhere else.
Thanks, Morticai!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 15, 2016, 07:08:01 PM
So, I am attempting to use photobucket for pictures and have in the past been able to paste the location between the img's of the photo mona lisa icon, but not so anymore.  What is everyone else using?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 15, 2016, 07:10:05 PM
So, I am attempting to use photobucket for pictures and have in the past been able to paste the location between the img's of the photo mona lisa icon, but not so anymore.  What is everyone else using?


I use photobucket Jeff - I copy the 'Direct' link and paste it as usual. The direct one is the only link that pastes correctly for me.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on May 15, 2016, 07:21:33 PM
So, I am attempting to use photobucket for pictures and have in the past been able to paste the location between the img's of the photo mona lisa icon, but not so anymore.  What is everyone else using?
Tapatalk smartphone app.  Took me a bit to get used to the app, but once you do it is by far the easiest.  No more uploading your pics to a separate server then copying the address and pasting it to a thread. 
Simply touch the image icon in the app and select the picture on your phone.  Done. 
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 15, 2016, 07:22:44 PM
So, I am attempting to use photobucket for pictures and have in the past been able to paste the location between the img's of the photo mona lisa icon, but not so anymore.  What is everyone else using?
Tapatalk smartphone app.  Took me a bit to get used to the app, but once you do it is by far the easiest.  No more uploading your pics to a separate server then copying the address and pasting it to a thread. 
Simply touch the image icon in the app and select the picture on your phone.  Done.
Yup
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 15, 2016, 07:33:50 PM
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This is not a test.  This is the real thing.
I cannot find a "direct" link.  It really should have copied and pasted into the frame, but no.
I will look into Tapatalk.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 15, 2016, 07:42:05 PM
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This is not a test.  This is the real thing.
I cannot find a "direct" link.  It really should have copied and pasted into the frame, but no.
I will look into Tapatalk.



When you double click on one of your picture thumbnails in photobucket, it enlarges and then you see 3 or 4 different links on the right side, each with a different name. I use the link called 'direct'.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 15, 2016, 07:48:22 PM
Maybe it is different on an iPad, but double clicking does not get me any choices of links, only the one that does not seem to be successful so far.
Evidently Tapatalk has a lot of different versions.  If I go with that, which one should I use?  I mean, obviously not golf or whatever, but I don't see one specifically for our hobby.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on May 15, 2016, 08:02:02 PM
Drinking Jeffy's Coffee Imperial Porter.  I liked the original plenty good, this variant is even better. 

Aroma: all the dark chocolate from the imperial porter, plus a nice dark roast coffee compliment. 

Appearance: second verse, same as the first - dark brown with ruby highlights in the sun.  Persistent tan head lasts throughout.   

Flavor: less sweetness than the original.  Dark chocolate is still there, but with the added bonus of coffee.  As I type this I have already drained my glass.  What a great beer!

Mouthfeel: medium body as opposed to the full body of the original.  Higher attenuation no doubt, but spot on for drinkability. 

Overall impression: no campfire needed for this beer - I'd drink this any day, any time.  Awesome beverage, I'm so glad to have participated in this swap!  I just finished brewing a Cream Ale a few minutes ago and this beer really hit the spot!  Thanks Jeff!
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 15, 2016, 09:10:18 PM
Drinking Jeffy's Coffee Imperial Porter.  I liked the original plenty good, this variant is even better. 

Aroma: all the dark chocolate from the imperial porter, plus a nice dark roast coffee compliment. 

Appearance: second verse, same as the first - dark brown with ruby highlights in the sun.  Persistent tan head lasts throughout.   

Flavor: less sweetness than the original.  Dark chocolate is still there, but with the added bonus of coffee.  As I type this I have already drained my glass.  What a great beer!

Mouthfeel: medium body as opposed to the full body of the original.  Higher attenuation no doubt, but spot on for drinkability. 

Overall impression: no campfire needed for this beer - I'd drink this any day, any time.  Awesome beverage, I'm so glad to have participated in this swap!  I just finished brewing a Cream Ale a few minutes ago and this beer really hit the spot!  Thanks Jeff!
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Thanks.  I had more than a couple people recognize a green pepper flavor and aroma in this beer when presented at a recent club meeting.  I (and a lot of other folks) don't get that.  I like this version and am glad you do I too.
Plus, the photo is awesome.  Maybe one day I will learn how to post a photo......
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 15, 2016, 09:14:36 PM
Sounds like a great beer !
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on May 15, 2016, 11:24:17 PM
Drinking Jeffy's Coffee Imperial Porter.  I liked the original plenty good, this variant is even better. 

Aroma: all the dark chocolate from the imperial porter, plus a nice dark roast coffee compliment. 

Appearance: second verse, same as the first - dark brown with ruby highlights in the sun.  Persistent tan head lasts throughout.   

Flavor: less sweetness than the original.  Dark chocolate is still there, but with the added bonus of coffee.  As I type this I have already drained my glass.  What a great beer!

Mouthfeel: medium body as opposed to the full body of the original.  Higher attenuation no doubt, but spot on for drinkability. 

Overall impression: no campfire needed for this beer - I'd drink this any day, any time.  Awesome beverage, I'm so glad to have participated in this swap!  I just finished brewing a Cream Ale a few minutes ago and this beer really hit the spot!  Thanks Jeff!
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Thanks.  I had more than a couple people recognize a green pepper flavor and aroma in this beer when presented at a recent club meeting.  I (and a lot of other folks) don't get that.  I like this version and am glad you do I too.
Plus, the photo is awesome.  Maybe one day I will learn how to post a photo......
If there was any pepper in there it was complimentary.  Ship another and I'll reevaluate!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on May 16, 2016, 12:26:44 AM
I'm (sadly) on the last of the homebrew Pete B sent me. This one is a mead labeled Maple "Tej". I've never had tej before, but from what I understand it is an Eritrean/Ethiopian mead brewed with a bittering hop-like herb.

The Tej is a clear, pale-gold color with light carbonation and sticky legs. The aroma is initially herbal and woody, with soft honey sweetness in the background. When I go back in for a second whiff, the maple note shines through brightly.

At first taste the Maple Tej is off-dry with some herbal bitterness, balanced by a bit of acidity. I also get perfumy/floral honey character, and a faint carbonic/seltzery flavor. I don't get as much maple flavor as I do aroma, just a faint woody/maple character. The finish is great, lingering as a balance of herbal character, honey notes and juicy acidity all coming in and out.

I can't see myself drinking several glasses of this in one sitting, but it makes one heck of an interesting aperitif. This is the kind of drink that stimulates good conversation. Another great one, Pete. I remember you mentioning this one in some posts a while back, but I can't remember - what did you use for bittering herbs in this, was it hops or something else? Also, what was your ratio of maple to honey on this? It definitely comes across as a mead rather than a maple wine, but the maple is still quite prominent in the aroma.

Pete, thanks for sharing your beer and mead. They were all really enjoyable. I'm looking forward to the commercial brews next.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on May 16, 2016, 12:27:52 AM
I'm (sadly) on the last of the homebrew Pete B sent me. This one is a mead labeled Maple "Tej". I've never had tej before, but from what I understand it is an Eritrean/Ethiopian mead brewed with a bittering hop-like herb.

The Tej is a clear, pale-gold color with light carbonation and sticky legs. The aroma is initially herbal and woody, with soft honey sweetness in the background. When I go back in for a second whiff, the maple note shines through brightly.

At first taste the Maple Tej is off-dry with some herbal bitterness, balanced by a bit of acidity. I also get perfumy/floral honey character, and a faint carbonic/seltzery flavor. I don't get as much maple flavor as I do aroma, just a faint woody/maple character. The finish is great, lingering as a balance of herbal character, honey notes and juicy acidity all coming in and out.

I can't see myself drinking several glasses of this in one sitting, but it makes one heck of an interesting aperitif. This is the kind of drink that stimulates good conversation. Another great one, Pete. I remember you mentioning this one in some posts a while back, but I can't remember - what did you use for bittering herbs in this, was it hops or something else? Also, what was your ratio of maple to honey on this? It definitely comes across as a mead rather than a maple wine, but the maple is still quite prominent in the aroma.

Pete, thanks for sharing your beer and mead. They were all really enjoyable. I'm looking forward to the commercial brews next.
Remembered to take a picture this time!

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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 16, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
Thanks Eric. The ratio of honey to maple syrup was 26# of honey to 4 gallons of maple syrup in a 25 gallon batch. Honey weighs about 12#/gallon so roughly 1:2 plus the water was maple SAP. That goes to show how much maple syrup is needed to come through. I used EKG instead of gesho root hence "Tej" and not Tej. It also had some black tea and vanilla beans. Lalvin D47 was the yeast.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on May 16, 2016, 02:57:22 PM
Thanks Eric. The ratio of honey to maple syrup was 26# of honey to 4 gallons of maple syrup in a 25 gallon batch. Honey weighs about 12#/gallon so roughly 1:2 plus the water was maple SAP. That goes to show how much maple syrup is needed to come through. I used EKG instead of gesho root hence "Tej" and not Tej. It also had some black tea and vanilla beans. Lalvin D47 was the yeast.
I thought I was getting some tannins. Black tea makes sense now, and the black tea/EKG sounds about right for the herbal character. Did you boil the hops or dry hop them?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 16, 2016, 03:13:39 PM
Thanks Eric. The ratio of honey to maple syrup was 26# of honey to 4 gallons of maple syrup in a 25 gallon batch. Honey weighs about 12#/gallon so roughly 1:2 plus the water was maple SAP. That goes to show how much maple syrup is needed to come through. I used EKG instead of gesho root hence "Tej" and not Tej. It also had some black tea and vanilla beans. Lalvin D47 was the yeast.
I thought I was getting some tannins. Black tea makes sense now, and the black tea/EKG sounds about right for the herbal character. Did you boil the hops or dry hop them?
The hops were boiled then tea bags added to steep for 5 minutes I think then that was strained into the must.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: morticaixavier on May 16, 2016, 04:17:22 PM
I am finally having the first of Morticai's homebrews, the 2015 Maple Barleywine.
He also sent some homemade maple syrup, so we made savory French toast for dinner, with sliced French bread, cherry wood smoked bacon and some poblano peppers in the mix.  Mmmm, good....
The beer poured with little to no head, but left persistent lacework in the glass, so it wasn't highly carbonated, but had enough CO2 to offset some of the sweetness.
It was a bit cloudy, amber colored.
Maple aroma and flavor was light, but I would expect that since it is a highly fermentable sugar.
This was a very full bodied beer with a strong malt sweetness (mostly caramel with some dark bread flavor) and a noticible alcohol warmth.  It had a significant hop flavor - not citrusy, but more spicy, and a sweet and bitter finish.
Overall impression was of a very fresh American Barleywine and it accompanied the French toast well.
I am looking forward to comparing it to the other version he sent, the 2012 edition.
This was a very big beer, with strong but clean alcohol flavors, high hop flavor and bitterness and strong malt flavor.  Again, I am really looking forward to the older version to see how it aged.

The upfront hop charge in the 2012 might have been lower to start with. I really amped it up this year because so much of the bitterness had dropped out of the early vintages. I am not totally happy with the packaging on the 2015 as I bottled from an unrefridgerated keg and lost a fair amount of carb in the process.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 16, 2016, 07:50:50 PM
Jim,

According to UPS, the second package has made it as far as the last one.

Let's hope it goes a little further.

JOE
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hickory on May 16, 2016, 11:39:41 PM
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This is Eric's whitbread IPA which I absolutely LOVED. Poured in an imperial pint glass to fit the larger offering.

Appearance is a light yellow/gold color and is crystal clear. White head dissipated quickly after the pour, but bubbles were streaming constantly and carb was right up my ally.

Aroma was medium-low malty sweetness, with a very slight earthiness. The earthiness became more pronounced as it warmed.

Flavor was awesome. Initial taste was bitter and spicy, but by the third sip I could get a rich maltiness that balanced everything out. While the malt could be tasted, to me this was all about the hop flavor. Typical spicy/earthy flavors usually attributed to English hops, but cranked up to 11! 

I honestly can say I haven't tasted anything quite like this beer. The bitterness was somehow smooth but firm the entire time. I think the extreme spiciness from the hops intensified the perceived bitterness, to my enjoyment. And the amount of body and mouthfeel that was achieved at the lower alcohol level was surprising. If this was on tap at my local pub I could see it being the number one selling beer.
11/10.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 17, 2016, 12:24:40 AM
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This is Eric's whitbread IPA which I absolutely LOVED. Poured in an imperial pint glass to fit the larger offering.

Appearance is a light yellow/gold color and is crystal clear. White head dissipated quickly after the pour, but bubbles were streaming constantly and carb was right up my ally.

Aroma was medium-low malty sweetness, with a very slight earthiness. The earthiness became more pronounced as it warmed.

Flavor was awesome. Initial taste was bitter and spicy, but by the third sip I could get a rich maltiness that balanced everything out. While the malt could be tasted, to me this was all about the hop flavor. Typical spicy/earthy flavors usually attributed to English hops, but cranked up to 11! 

I honestly can say I haven't tasted anything quite like this beer. The bitterness was somehow smooth but firm the entire time. I think the extreme spiciness from the hops intensified the perceived bitterness, to my enjoyment. And the amount of body and mouthfeel that was achieved at the lower alcohol level was surprising. If this was on tap at my local pub I could see it being the number one selling beer.
11/10.
This seems right up my alley. I hope Eric chimes in with details.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 17, 2016, 12:48:55 PM
Jim,

According to UPS, the second package has made it as far as the last one.

Let's hope it goes a little further.

JOE
Ya, no kidding.


Ooo,  it's on the truck to your house now, woo hoo
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on May 17, 2016, 05:13:22 PM
The Whitbread IPA is based very closely on a historic recipe posted on Ron Pattinson's blog. I believe he posted this recipe in response to some discussion about Session IPA's. Apparently the Brits have been doing it going way back, and it was no big deal for them. Many breweries brewed their beers at several strengths, and IPA was no different. Frankly, I think I like their take on it better than the modern American one.

Here's the recipe as I brewed it. The recipe called for a target FG of 1.012, but I think I might have some hotter malt than they had in 1957 so the 147F mash temp is probably overkill. Next time I brew this I will probably shoot for mid-150's for 60 minutes.

Title: Whitbread IPA (1957)
Author: Pattinson/England

Brew Method: BIAB
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 3 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 4 gallons
Efficiency: 80% (brew house)

STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.037
IBU (tinseth): 36.79
SRM (morey): 6.28

FERMENTABLES:
2.625 lb - United Kingdom - Maris Otter Pale (77.1%)
5 oz - United Kingdom - Crystal 45L (9.2%)
7.5 oz - Invert Sugar (13.8%)

HOPS:
0.3 oz - Fuggles, Type: Pellet, AA: 4.5, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 10.47
0.6 oz - East Kent Goldings, Type: Pellet, AA: 5, Use: Boil for 30 min, IBU: 17.88
0.6 oz - East Kent Goldings, Type: Pellet, AA: 5, Use: Boil for 10 min, IBU: 8.44

MASH GUIDELINES:
1) Infusion, Temp: 147 F, Time: 90 min, Amount: 10 qt, Sacc Rest
2) Sparge, Temp: 170 F, Time: 5 min, Amount: 7 qt, Dunk sparge

YEAST:
White Labs - English Ale Yeast WLP002

TARGET WATER PROFILE:
3 g gypsum
1 g epsom
0.5 g NaCl
1 g CaCl2
No acid addition
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 17, 2016, 06:39:40 PM
Jim,

According to UPS, the second package has made it as far as the last one.

Let's hope it goes a little further.

JOE
Ya, no kidding.


Ooo,  it's on the truck to your house now, woo hoo

At least we know there's not some guy in McCook looking for your packages and taking them home to drink them.

I'm on a no-drinking kick for the time being (we'll see how long that lasts) but I'm looking forward to trying your beers.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 17, 2016, 07:30:57 PM
Jim,

According to UPS, the second package has made it as far as the last one.

Let's hope it goes a little further.

JOE
Ya, no kidding.


Ooo,  it's on the truck to your house now, woo hoo

At least we know there's not some guy in McCook looking for your packages and taking them home to drink them.

I'm on a no-drinking kick for the time being (we'll see how long that lasts) but I'm looking forward to trying your beers.
Cool
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 17, 2016, 10:25:30 PM
Jim,

According to UPS, the second package has made it as far as the last one.

Let's hope it goes a little further.

JOE
Ya, no kidding.


Ooo,  it's on the truck to your house now, woo hoo

At least we know there's not some guy in McCook looking for your packages and taking them home to drink them.

I'm on a no-drinking kick for the time being (we'll see how long that lasts) but I'm looking forward to trying your beers.
Cool
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Arrived. Will open and check later tonight.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on May 18, 2016, 12:00:58 AM
I would steal that box...it's like ghost packaging...glad it made it though...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on May 18, 2016, 12:05:15 AM
Lmao, those arrows are tricky.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 18, 2016, 12:35:59 AM
Awesome!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 18, 2016, 12:38:56 AM
Glad it made it this time, hopefully intact.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 18, 2016, 12:40:23 AM
Lmao, those arrows are tricky.
Almost HAS to be on purpose, huh?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: blair.streit on May 18, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
Lmao, those arrows are tricky.
Almost HAS to be on purpose, huh?
They do that because they can't leave you a note that says "not so f'ing heavy next time" ;)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 18, 2016, 02:39:25 AM
Lmao, those arrows are tricky.
Almost HAS to be on purpose, huh?
They do that because they can't leave you a note that says "not so f'ing heavy next time" ;)
There were two boxes when I got home. I moved the heavier and larger one and there was Jim's box on its side. It demanded to be photographed.

I've had heavier larger boxes delivered and this is the first time they've left something on the stairs. New driver or just because it was two boxes I'm sure.

Anyway, here's the loot unpacked. Jim has done me a solid. I need to clear room in the fridge.

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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: mchrispen on May 18, 2016, 05:34:22 PM
That box photo should be a t-shirt!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on May 18, 2016, 05:42:14 PM
That box photo should be a t-shirt!


Yeah.  :)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 23, 2016, 12:00:22 AM
I am enjoying another of Morticai's beers.  This one is marked "2 year and 1 year mixed ferment aged in oak".
It poured with little to no head, has a medium copper or dark gold color and is very clear.  Almost no legs or foam.
Aroma is honey and herbal, like an Indian spice, similar to coriander, but hard to pinpoint.
Oak is very apparent in the initial sip, then it kind of reminds me of the flavor of cream soda - not so much the sweetness as much as a honey/birch flavor.  It has a light sour finish, more lactic than acetic, not puckering, but leaving a little slickness in the finish.
More CO2 would definitely change this beer for the better - I think he transferred this from a keg and may have lost some carbonation in the process.
As I said, I am enjoying this beer and I think it would be fantastic with more CO2.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: morticaixavier on May 23, 2016, 07:40:41 PM
I am enjoying another of Morticai's beers.  This one is marked "2 year and 1 year mixed ferment aged in oak".
It poured with little to no head, has a medium copper or dark gold color and is very clear.  Almost no legs or foam.
Aroma is honey and herbal, like an Indian spice, similar to coriander, but hard to pinpoint.
Oak is very apparent in the initial sip, then it kind of reminds me of the flavor of cream soda - not so much the sweetness as much as a honey/birch flavor.  It has a light sour finish, more lactic than acetic, not puckering, but leaving a little slickness in the finish.
More CO2 would definitely change this beer for the better - I think he transferred this from a keg and may have lost some carbonation in the process.
As I said, I am enjoying this beer and I think it would be fantastic with more CO2.

yeah the bottling from the keg is killing me.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 23, 2016, 07:47:39 PM
By the way Joe Sr, no holds barred on your feedback. I'm thick skinned and want to know what you really think
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 23, 2016, 07:58:14 PM
By the way Joe Sr, no holds barred on your feedback. I'm thick skinned and want to know what you really think

Gotcha.  Drank the Dark Muse on Friday while brewing.  Shared with the wife.    Delicious and right up my (our) alley.  The wife loves Dragon's Milk, Fade to Black, and several other stouts, imperial and otherwise.

Have some notes at home that I'll get to.  Long weekend with spring cleaning and all that.

I think I'll save your NHC stout so I can savor it when you take gold.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 24, 2016, 12:47:45 AM
By the way Joe Sr, no holds barred on your feedback. I'm thick skinned and want to know what you really think

Gotcha.  Drank the Dark Muse on Friday while brewing.  Shared with the wife.    Delicious and right up my (our) alley.  The wife loves Dragon's Milk, Fade to Black, and several other stouts, imperial and otherwise.

Have some notes at home that I'll get to.  Long weekend with spring cleaning and all that.

I think I'll save your NHC stout so I can savor it when you take gold.
Lol, ya right
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 24, 2016, 11:51:06 AM
My last review is of Frank's Evil Twin clone. I have never had an Evil Twin, so not comparing it to original. When pouring this beer I poured harder near the end to maximize head and there was more sediment than I realized which I got into my beer and clouded it up. This was a shame because it was a nice red color that would have been gorgeous if clear. Maybe Frank can post a picture of a properly poured one.
The beer had a nice white head that subsided slowly with nice lacing. The aroma was hop forward, citrusey and a hint of pine and some grainy malt. The flavor was initially of the citrus hops quickly giving way to malty cereal but not too sweet. No bitter finish. Frank said this was all late hops, no bittering charge. He definitely pulled that off. The grain bill seemed light on the crystal and more grainy so the light bitterness from the late hops was all that was needed. I need to make a beer that gets all its bitterness from late hops this summer. This was just insanely drinkable.
Thanks for all the great homebrew and locals Frank!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 24, 2016, 09:43:38 PM
Pete, you're welcome, and thanks for the praise. You are too kind. That recipe is from Jamil Z, here is a link from mrmalty.com:
http://www.mrmalty.com/late_hopping.php (http://www.mrmalty.com/late_hopping.php)

It has a heavy base of Maris Otter, I used Simpson's Glenn Eagle MO, with crystal 40, 120, pale chocolate, some victory, and some Munich. the first charge of hops is at 20 minutes and its all Centennial and Amarillo from there on. I did dry hop it with more of each as he suggests you may do "if you're a real hop monster." The first time I made this brew was with extract and steeping grains and I liked it. It is even better this time as an all grain recipe. I had almost 10oz of hops in there after dry hopping and all the hops were 2013 or 2014 crop, kept vacuum sealed in my freezer, so I guess they are holding up
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on May 25, 2016, 12:44:35 AM
Pete, here's a pic for you. Let's just say I think I do a better job with the beer than I do with the camera phone. It really is a lot clearer than this pic shows,  but it does have a great head with starting down the side of the glass then straight down the middle as you get through the pour. Do have to be careful with the dregs though
Guess I ought to include the pic I am talking about
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on May 25, 2016, 11:25:07 AM
Pete, here's a pic for you. Let's just say I think I do a better job with the beer than I do with the camera phone. It really is a lot clearer than this pic shows,  but it does have a great head with starting down the side of the glass then straight down the middle as you get through the pour. Do have to be careful with the dregs though
Guess I ought to include the pic I am talking about
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I get a sense of the color at the bottom there. I was pissed at myself for the pour, I'm usually a good judge of when to stop the pour.I knew it was bottle conditioned.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on May 27, 2016, 02:27:45 PM
We drank the Dark Muse imperial stout sent by Jim last week.  Brewed by Worthy brewing.

It's appearance is opaque black with a tan long lasting head. Roast malt aromas with very little hop presence.

Flavor was molasses and honey. No assertive hop bitterness but a mild bitter aftertaste, probably the roast malt.

It coats the mouth. Thick and silky. Very nice.

10% abv but the alcohol is not obvious in the taste. My wife said she felt it in her knees though.

Hoping to get to a couple more this weekend.

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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on May 27, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
Felt in in the knees... thats awesome
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: redzim on May 28, 2016, 12:05:37 PM
Here's my review of Rob_F's German Pilsner. (wrote it yesterday, just getting to posting today)

OG 1.047, FG 1.015, dated 2/2/16

Appearance: a little cloudy – maybe some chill haze in there, but clear otherwise, and glowing straw in color

Aroma: nice floral noble hops, missing that typical German “it” aroma but I’ve never been able to replicate that in my Pilsners and some say it’s oxidation anyways, right? (no flame wars meant to be started here ;))

Taste: right away I get a hint of green apple, but it gives way to a nice firm bitter taste and a good dry finish. Not quite as dry as  a Jever but I’d say more bitter than your typical mass-market Bitburger or Warsteiner. Maybe more in Radeberger territory. Anyways, with the FG listed as 1.015, I didn’t expect it to taste this crisp, but it does, which goes to show that sometimes numbers lie. (73.6% of all statistics are made up, right?) . . .   so this bitterness (a good dry Pils bitterness, not kick-in-the-pants IPA bitterness) lingers nicely for some minutes after the sip, but it’s not astringent or off in any way that I can tell

Overall: a really solid German Pils. I’m having this at the end of Friday afternoon, when the temps have been in the 90s for a couple days here in the Hudson Valley of New York – a very early mini-heatwave that we’re not usually for ready for until July – so that may be coloring my enjoyment of this beer, but it is really hitting the spot. Nice job, Rob. 

(If you care to share the info, can you send me your mash info, hopping schedule, yeast strain, and water recipe, etc, by PM?)

-red


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on May 30, 2016, 09:07:47 PM
Memorial Day afternoon and I am having the last of the beers that Morticai sent my way.  This one is marked "2012 Maple Barleywine". 
It pours with very low foam, very clear dark amber color with constant effervescence. 
The maple aroma is a bit stronger in this than the newer sample he sent.  There is significant alcohol presence, in aroma, flavor and mouthfeel, but it is not hot or off-putting.  Aroma has a big caramel and dark bread aspect, but also has a fairly strong dark fruit side - plums maybe.  Very low to no hop aroma.  It smells clean and strong and is balanced to malt.
The flavor is similar to the aroma with dark bread and maple, but it is followed by a good dose of fruit, reminding me of brûléed dates or figs.  Hop flavor is strong, but stays in the background behind the malt and esters.  Finish is well balanced with enough hop bitterness to balance the malt sweetness.
Man, what a nice beer.  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: morticaixavier on May 31, 2016, 06:12:52 PM
Memorial Day afternoon and I am having the last of the beers that Morticai sent my way.  This one is marked "2012 Maple Barleywine". 
It pours with very low foam, very clear dark amber color with constant effervescence. 
The maple aroma is a bit stronger in this than the newer sample he sent.  There is significant alcohol presence, in aroma, flavor and mouthfeel, but it is not hot or off-putting.  Aroma has a big caramel and dark bread aspect, but also has a fairly strong dark fruit side - plums maybe.  Very low to no hop aroma.  It smells clean and strong and is balanced to malt.
The flavor is similar to the aroma with dark bread and maple, but it is followed by a good dose of fruit, reminding me of brûléed dates or figs.  Hop flavor is strong, but stays in the background behind the malt and esters.  Finish is well balanced with enough hop bitterness to balance the malt sweetness.
Man, what a nice beer.  Thanks for sharing!
glad you enjoyed it! I've been really enjoying the 2012 lately. I think it's approaching it's peak but I'll hang on to a few bottles just to be sure.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 02, 2016, 11:23:04 PM
From Jeffy's box.  Disclaimer: I'm not a beer judge. Just a guy that likes beer!

Imperial Porter
Aroma: greeted with dark chocolate, some dark fruit.  Smells like a treat, I want to take a sip, but first...
Appearance: bottle was generously filled, very little headspace.  Poured dark brown, almost black, but holding my glass to the setting sunlight there are ruby highlights.  A tan head stayed around for a bit before fading to a ring that stayed for the duration. 
Flavor: at last! Sweet dark, chocolate with slight roast and bitterness to balance.  This is one of those beers that you suspect is high in alcohol, but you can't taste it.  Dangerous!  Tastes like a treat.  No diacetyl or other off flavors.  Clean fermentation.
Mouthfeel: This beer is full with a creamy mouthfeel.  No harshness or astringency.  Slightly warming, but no hot alcohol. 
Overall impression:  Tonight is cold and windy in Ohio.  A storm just passed through.  I'd love to build a fire and sip another glass of this beer.  Well done, thank you Jeff!
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Jeffy's bourbon imperial porter.  I actually drank this some time ago, but forgot to post.  Great beer.

Aroma: Amazing the aroma that a little bourbon will bring out.  I picked up toffee and caramel.  Very pleasant. 

Appearance: Very similar to the previous 2 versions, except the head faded to a thin ring instead of sticking around. 

Flavor: Light roast, faint bourbon, toffee and toasted bread crust.  The flavors linger into the aftertaste, very enjoyable.

Mouthfeel: Similar to the original, but some light alcohol from the bourbon present (no burning).   

Thanks Jeffy!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 03, 2016, 12:29:36 AM
Jeffy's Old Ale.  I love this beer.  It made me open up the style guidelines and read, so I learned some things along with drinking a tasty beer that was brewed 950 miles away. 

Aroma:  When I first smelled this beer, I thought: bourbon and Brett.  That eventually gave way to dark fruit and molasses.

Appearance:  The bottle was filled almost completely to the cap.  No hiss on opening, and the beer poured with very little head.  Color is dark brown.  Being the nerd I am, I re-poured a bit into a thinner tasting glass and can see the obvious clarity.  Off topic- why is appearance listed after aroma on the judging scoresheets??  Don't most of us see the beer before we smell it?  Some may jam the bottle up their nose after opening, but dont most pour first??  Back on topic- there's a very slight ring of foam on the edge of my glass as I drink the beer, which lead us to:

Flavor:  the dark fruit is evident, along with some aged wine.  I imagine this beer was heavier on the molasses side before the Brettanomyces took hold, as the molasses was still evident in the background.  The Brett provides a lightly tart  bite and finish. 

Mouthfeel:  low carbonation, but still present.  Brett must have taken hold prior to bottling.  It thinned out the mouthfeel a bit, but not too much.  No diacetyl. 

Overall:  I'm not quite done with my glass, this beer wants to be sipped (duh, it's an Old Alle, but I'm usually a fast drinker).  As a sipper it has a ton of complexity and is very enjoyable.  It allowed me to stop, reflect, even research and most definitely appreciate. 
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on June 03, 2016, 12:31:54 PM
Jeffy's Old Ale.  I love this beer.  It made me open up the style guidelines and read, so I learned some things along with drinking a tasty beer that was brewed 950 miles away. 

Aroma:  When I first smelled this beer, I thought: bourbon and Brett.  That eventually gave way to dark fruit and molasses.

Appearance:  The bottle was filled almost completely to the cap.  No hiss on opening, and the beer poured with very little head.  Color is dark brown.  Being the nerd I am, I re-poured a bit into a thinner tasting glass and can see the obvious clarity.  Off topic- why is appearance listed after aroma on the judging scoresheets??  Don't most of us see the beer before we smell it?  Some may jam the bottle up their nose after opening, but dont most pour first??  Back on topic- there's a very slight ring of foam on the edge of my glass as I drink the beer, which lead us to:

Flavor:  the dark fruit is evident, along with some aged wine.  I imagine this beer was heavier on the molasses side before the Brettanomyces took hold, as the molasses was still evident in the background.  The Brett provides a lightly tart  bite and finish. 

Mouthfeel:  low carbonation, but still present.  Brett must have taken hold prior to bottling.  It thinned out the mouthfeel a bit, but not too much.  No diacetyl. 

Overall:  I'm not quite done with my glass, this beer wants to be sipped (duh, it's an Old Alle, but I'm usually a fast drinker).  As a sipper it has a ton of complexity and is very enjoyable.  It allowed me to stop, reflect, even research and most definitely appreciate. 
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Awesome review. Give this guy a job.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on June 04, 2016, 01:13:10 AM
I finally got around to the bonus beer that @Hooper sent me. It is his "Not Orval" which he says went from 1.062 down to 1.001. The dryness is very noticeable but definitely not off-putting. His notes said this was not his best effort, but myself and the 2 beautiful women who shared it with all loved it. I am not a regular Orval drinker, so really cannot compare it to the original, just know we liked it a lot.

Aroma has just a hint of funk but overall clean pilsner flavor. It was force carbed and bottled, thus it is crystal clear. The carb level is on the high side, champagne like, constantly bubbling up from the bottom through the entire glass. The girls said the carb level was reminiscent of AmandaK's wedding toast beer. Really no hop flavor to speak of, but a nice subtle bitter finish. Overall, this would be a great one to enjoy on a nightly basis.

Thanks so much for including this in my package Glenn, we really enjoyed it
Edit to add the pic, oops
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on June 04, 2016, 02:51:37 AM
It is pretty cool to see one  of your beers months later in another state and in another state...glad the ladies liked and nice review Frank...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on June 04, 2016, 02:57:57 AM
As a side note, not specifically a detraction, that dark spot in the lower right hand side of my glass was 1 of 2 or 3 floaters that made their way into my glass. Not an issue and never noticed it while drinking. I do remember seeing it after I poured and making a mental note, but no taste issue whenever it went down the hatch. Thanks again Glenn, I enjoyed all your beers
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on June 04, 2016, 03:07:54 AM
Well...sorry about the floaters...wish it was here unopened...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on June 04, 2016, 03:10:14 AM
or...in my glass
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on June 04, 2016, 03:51:44 AM
Like I said, really never noticed once poured and consumed. I bottle condition, so I'm used to the occasional floater and not at all bothered by it. It was a wonderful beer from start to finish
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on June 07, 2016, 10:16:49 PM
JT- getting after those last two beers of yours next two nights. Scottish heavy and American wild ale- not very familiar with either but looking forward to trying them out.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 07, 2016, 10:39:43 PM
JT- getting after those last two beers of yours next two nights. Scottish heavy and American wild ale- not very familiar with either but looking forward to trying them out.
I hope you're healing up and feeling up feeling better! The Scottish heavy name is a little misleading to me, as it's low alcohol by our standards, and "heavy" makes me think of high alcohol. I recommend letting it warm up a bit as it seems to help the malt flavor which I'd still like to get more of in this beer.  The American Wild ale was my first dance with Brettanomyces, blackberries and Oak and I was very pleased with how it came out. I hope the packaging serves you well on both of these beers, again let me know if you pick up any oxidation.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 08, 2016, 12:04:38 AM
I had one last bottle of the Scottish tucked away in the fridge fom the same batch, that I just finished crushing.  I think I'm overly paranoid about oxidation with the beergun since it was my first time using it.  So far, I've not picked up any oxidation character at all.  Again, recommend letting that bottle warm up a bit prior to pouring.  The Wild Ale is really the same way, both are better at cellar temps 50 to 55.  I store them both colder and just let the bottles sit a bit before opening. 
Title: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on June 08, 2016, 12:39:48 AM
I had one last bottle of the Scottish tucked away in the fridge fom the same batch, that I just finished crushing.  I think I'm overly paranoid about oxidation with the beergun since it was my first time using it.  So far, I've not picked up any oxidation character at all.  Again, recommend letting that bottle warm up a bit prior to pouring.  The Wild Ale is really the same way, both are better at cellar temps 50 to 55.  I store them both colder and just let the bottles sit a bit before opening.

Scottish:  really rich malt nose and taste that has pleasantly dry smooth finish. Deep reddish brown that's very clear. Thin foam on pour that fades quickly.  Malt Opened up as it warmed and I'm not sensing any oxidation JT.

Haven't made one of these and rarely drink them. This is really nice and makes me think about brewing one this fall winter.
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 08, 2016, 12:46:49 AM
I had one last bottle of the Scottish tucked away in the fridge fom the same batch, that I just finished crushing.  I think I'm overly paranoid about oxidation with the beergun since it was my first time using it.  So far, I've not picked up any oxidation character at all.  Again, recommend letting that bottle warm up a bit prior to pouring.  The Wild Ale is really the same way, both are better at cellar temps 50 to 55.  I store them both colder and just let the bottles sit a bit before opening.

Scottish:  really rich malt nose and taste that has pleasantly dry smooth finish. Deep reddish brown that's very clear. Thin foam on pour that fades quickly.  Mat Opened up as it warmed and I'm not sending any oxidation JT.

Haven't made one of these and rarely drink them. This is really nice and makes me think about brewing one this fall winter.
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Thanks Ken, I'm going to revisit this style eventually too.  I really like that I can actually have a few pints and not feel like it.  Makes the keg go quicker though, so there are drawbacks... cheers!
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on June 08, 2016, 12:49:38 AM
Yes easy drinker for sure. What's the grist look like?


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 08, 2016, 12:50:32 AM
Is that a Scottish 80, JT ?  Nice looking beer.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on June 08, 2016, 12:58:42 AM
The caramel is prominent yet not cloying or deathly sweet....digging it.


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 08, 2016, 01:10:13 AM
I think it would fall more into 70/-
It's about 3.7% abv. 
Trying this the lazy way first.  Let me know if you can't zoom/see it.  Also worth noting that my mash pH dipped low on this brew to 5.18 (common problem for me).  I let it ride then adjusted up to 5.4 in the boil kettle with baking soda.
My daughter added her own notes...
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on June 09, 2016, 02:32:37 AM
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Jim's mandarins Bavaria pale ale.

I had this on Veterans Memorial Day. Late to posting.

Shared with my wife and sister-in-law.

I don't know if the photo does it justice, but it was deep gold to light Amber.

Big fluffy head that settles down but lasts.  Big citrus nose and flavor. Creamy and smooth. Seemed like low carbonation for such a fluffy head.
Moderate bitterness.  Finished very clean.

We enjoyed this beer very much. My wife not so much (she does not like pale ale) but the sil and I very much.

Send more.

Also had the saison. Will post that later.


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 09, 2016, 02:38:06 AM
That looks like a tasty beer!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 09, 2016, 01:39:16 PM
Cool, glad you enjoyed it.

Great glass too, perfect in fact
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 09, 2016, 01:50:23 PM
Yeah, nice looking beer.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on June 09, 2016, 02:34:55 PM
Cool, glad you enjoyed it.

Great glass too, perfect in fact

Thanks.  My brother has a set of those glasses.  They're a perfect size, too, at about 8 oz.

Of course, I drank it on Memorial Day, not Veteran's Day.  I'll correct that.

I can't keep anything straight.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 09, 2016, 05:08:24 PM
Close enough for me.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on June 10, 2016, 01:55:58 AM
coolman26 sux
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on June 10, 2016, 02:16:03 AM
Egyptian donkey dick...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on June 10, 2016, 03:55:56 AM
coolman26 sux
You didn't get any beer I take it? That sucks! Lame!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: 69franx on June 10, 2016, 07:14:24 AM
That's a bum deal.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on June 10, 2016, 10:12:47 AM
I was gonna write something nicer...I just couldn't see myself not at least communicating...I'll feel bad if I find out he passed away or is in a coma...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on June 10, 2016, 11:32:12 AM
He was last active here May 29.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 10, 2016, 11:33:57 AM
I think thats a first.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on June 10, 2016, 11:35:19 AM
Did you PM him?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on June 10, 2016, 12:07:57 PM
I'm dropping it...had my say and moving on...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 10, 2016, 12:26:18 PM
We did our first swap last spring. The response was mixed from "it won't work" to "we should do this once a month". Overall it went great. No deadbeats. Then we did it again in the fall. Again it went well. This one kinda got off to a rocky start because I lost my father and Amanda graciously stepped up and ran it. But I think a few of us were slow getting product out, then mine got lost, so it was delayed... bla bla.

I'm thinking about maybe we could keep the idea going but change it up a bit going forward. What do you guys think about a thread just called "SWAPS"? Ongoing, like the pics thread and the whats brewing this weekend thread, where one could post that they have a beer they'd like to swap for review and feedback. Then someone who also has a beer to swap can step up, and those two folks can PM each other's info and swap their beers. Then post their notes and photos on the SWAP thread.

What cha all think?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 10, 2016, 12:49:49 PM
We did our first swap last spring. The response was mixed from "it won't work" to "we should do this once a month". Overall it went great. No deadbeats. Then we did it again in the fall. Again it went well. This one kinda got off to a rocky start because I lost my father and Amanda graciously stepped up and ran it. But I think a few of us were slow getting product out, then mine got lost, so it was delayed... bla bla.

I'm thinking about maybe we could keep the idea going but change it up a bit going forward. What do you guys think about a thread just called "SWAPS"? Ongoing, like the pics thread and the whats brewing this weekend thread, where one could post that they have a beer they'd like to swap for review and feedback. Then someone who also has a beer to swap can step up, and those two folks can PM each other's info and swap their beers. Then post their notes and photos on the SWAP thread.

What cha all think?



I think it's a great idea. I like the current format too, but for example I'm brewing German stuff this spring and summer, and maybe the person picked for me isn't a big lager fan. But if I post that I have lagers to swap I'd get lager fans (or 'whatever' fans) to eval for me.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on June 10, 2016, 02:32:52 PM
I kinda like the random swap thing.  Though the results can be sort of random, too.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on June 10, 2016, 03:16:07 PM
There might be a problem when multiple people want to swap with you and you only want to send out to only one. Do we start bargaining. I kind of Ike the fairly organized way we do it now, it adds a bit of peer pressure to follow though. Also, looking forward to it gets me to Brew.
The positive aspect of Jim's suggestion is you swap when you have some beer you deem worthy. Maybe we do both.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on June 10, 2016, 06:03:50 PM
I am in either way.  I enjoyed it.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: erockrph on June 10, 2016, 06:15:56 PM
There might be a problem when multiple people want to swap with you and you only want to send out to only one. Do we start bargaining. I kind of Ike the fairly organized way we do it now, it adds a bit of peer pressure to follow though. Also, looking forward to it gets me to Brew.
The positive aspect of Jim's suggestion is you swap when you have some beer you deem worthy. Maybe we do both.
I agree with all of this. I like the group swaps best, because when I sign up for one I feel like that forces me to follow through. But I wouldn't mind having an open thread for one-offs as well. For example, I know that when I brew my single-hop beers I usually have a couple left over. Instead of dumping them I might as well trade a few.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on June 10, 2016, 10:40:20 PM
I like the group swap format and I'm open to all styles...but I like the other swap Klick mentions also...

And I have to say...I enjoyed sending more than receiving and really wasn't that upset about getting a deadbeat this swap...And...I may have sampled a bit much of the recipe last night...I Shouldn't have slandered Egyptian Donkeys...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: brewinhard on June 10, 2016, 10:42:02 PM
...I Shouldn't have slandered Egyptian Donkeys...

HA! I know, I mean what did they ever do to you? 
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 10, 2016, 10:59:04 PM
I like the group swap format and I'm open to all styles...but I like the other swap Klick mentions also...

And I have to say...I enjoyed sending more than receiving and really wasn't that upset about getting a deadbeat this swap...And...I may have sampled a bit much of the recipe last night...I Shouldn't have slandered Egyptian Donkeys...


Yeah, those donkeys work hard. ;)   The next swap will go better - sorry about your experience this time.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on June 11, 2016, 12:24:02 AM
This is my second swap with nary a word of feedback. I'm hopeful though.

And I dont take it personally. We're all busy. I've got a lot more of Jim's beer to get through and one I've sampled I need to post.

Maybe no one wants to post feedback cuz my beers suck?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 11, 2016, 02:03:46 AM
I'll bet it doesn't!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: ynotbrusum on June 11, 2016, 12:51:16 PM
Didn't get mine yet, but I said there is no hurry and there isn't.  If you get into the swap and something happens, then just let the intended recipient know.  That's what my sender did and I'm patient - I brew lagers and sours....
Title: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hickory on June 11, 2016, 03:44:21 PM
Jim I haven't forgotten about you! I actually started a new job a few weeks ago (at a brewery too!) and have been putting in 80 hours a week easily. But you will definitely still be getting some beers!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 11, 2016, 04:04:33 PM
Jim I haven't forgotten about you! I actually started a new job a few weeks ago (at a brewery too!) and have been putting in 80 hours a week easily. But you will definitely still be getting some beers!
No worries! And congrats!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Phil_M on June 12, 2016, 02:39:02 AM
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redzim's final beer, at long last. My wife and I ended up leaving the NHC early due to car problems. With the car back in working order, it seemed a fitting time to sample redzim's remaining brew.

redzim's "Sappin' Brew" (Brown ale with Rauchmalz.)

Appearance:

Nice brown color, crystal clear. Pours with a rocky head that settles into a nice fine cap on the beer. Laces well.

Aroma: Ever get a slight whiff of a wood stove or campfire way off in the distance? It's a distinct smell, even at a low intensity. This beer is like that. The smoked malt isn't overwhelmingly in the forefront, like with a Schlenkerla, but there's no mistaking that it's there. Despite how light this aroma is, it blanks out all others in my nose.

Flavor/mouthfeel:

Body fits the brown ale style, not too dry, not too heavy. Perhaps a touch more dry than Newcastle, for reference. Beer has a slight sweetness up front, but turns to a slight bitter aftertaste. The smoked malt is a nice touch, it's there, but doesn't drown out the maltiness of the brown malt. Pairing up very nicely with a smoked salmon sandwich. This heightened either the malt or the smoke, depending on how much rye bread/salmon was in each bite of sandwich. An excellent beer overall, and my favorite of the lot. It's an incredibly drinkable beer, especially for a smoked beer. Would be great to pair with a campfire or wood stove on a chilly night.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on June 12, 2016, 04:35:16 PM
As I have told Ken, I have been a bad swapper. Life was all slow and steady when we started this swap and then it just kicked up and I haven't been able to find the time to think!

That being said, I have had 3 of Wort H.O.G's beers, and they have been just awesome. I've been taking notes but have just not been able to find the time to type it all out.

1) German Pils (I've lost the recipe card sent with this, despite all the others being in a nice stack on the beer fridge - odd... Ken will have to fill this one in for me)
This one was incredibly interesting for me. I don't mean that in the "oh... it's interesting..." kind of half-ass complement. I mean that I am still curious about this beer, it's held my attention that long.
Aroma was initially grainy with cracker (when straight out of the beer cooler) and then presented as a red delicious apple with a low white-wine grape type aroma. The white wine-grape transformed into what I identify the Belgian-Pilsners "grape quality" but in turbo-mode. (You know how Belgian Pils malts can be more grapey than German Pils malts, which are usually more toasty? Yeah, that grapey aroma was bigger than the Belgian Pilsners I've used. Really cool.) Also had low floral aromas.
Appearance:
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Damn that's a clear beer. Excellent carbonation, enjoyed watching the constant bubbles on a hot day after yard work.
Flavor followed the aroma, but with more cracker and grain and less grapey character. Mod low bitterness with a low floral flavor. Dry finish, crisp. Immensely drinkable (which will be a theme here).
Carb was mod-high. Body was med-low. No flaws here.
Overall, an excellent beer. May not do well in some comps (depending on if a judge picks up the grapey thing or not), but if/when Ken divulges the recipe, this one is worth a spot in your line up.

2) Oktoberfest. I shared this one with the KCBM Board (8 of us). Usually bombers languish around if they aren't unique or just damn-good. This one falls in the latter category.  ;)
Aroma and flavor are very similar here. Mod toasty, light toffee, low caramel, and low bread crusts. Mod-low bitterness, mod-low floral/spicy aroma & flavor. Dry, crisp, refreshing. Endlessly drinkable. We pounded this one down in record time. Mod. carbonation, bubbles again dancing up through the brilliantly clear amber colored beer. Med-light body. No warmth or other unmentionables. Everyone remarked at how clean and drinkable it was, and I have to agree. Dang Ken, how can it get better than this? If I had to nit-pick, I would mention the very low papery character that I get doing retro-nasal... but if you can only find it doing that... well, no one's gonna notice it.  ;)

3) Dort. I'm real mad that I didn't get a picture of this one (phone has been actin' a fool lately), so you'll all just have to believe me that it was beautiful. True story - I am brewing this one soon. Maybe next.
Mod toasty, light caramel. Cracker. Low floral with an interesting citrus in the way back. Impressively clear gold beer. Pours with a 3/4" head that lasts for half of the time spent drinking. Flavor follows aroma, but with no citrus note in the flavor. Mod-low bitterness. Moderate floral notes. Dry, crisp. Endlessly quaffable. Mod carbonation. Mod-light body. No warmth or other issues. Great beer. My last notes on this one say, "Commercial Quality", which I then corrected to after another sip "Better Than Commercial Quality".

Ken, you've killed it with these beers. I'm really looking forward to the Alt and I'm really looking forward to brewing a Dort with my Pils yeast cake I have. Hopefully I can make one as good as yours!  8)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 12, 2016, 05:12:21 PM
Nice job! (Both of you)  Definitely made me wish I had one of those beers right here!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 12, 2016, 05:42:36 PM
Not surprised a bit - Ken's lagers are just killer.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: redzim on June 13, 2016, 12:34:19 PM
Got around to drinking my last beer from Rob_F.

A "Pale Doppelbock" clocking in at over 9%. A nice amber/golden color, not super-clear but clear enough for my liking. Medium carbonation.  Starts with a bready malt aroma, rich and toasty. Smooth firm malt taste upfront with just hint of hops. Finished sweet but not cloying. A good solid Doppelbock. A very enjoyable beer - although I don't know if I could handle more than one of these especially on a warm summer day! 

Thanks Rob - and thanks to all who organized this swap, I thoroughly enjoyed it and will be in on the next one.

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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on June 13, 2016, 04:21:59 PM
Wow Amanda great write up...worth the wait.

I will put the recipe out for the Pils. As we chatted- I need to go back to a bottle and see if I can pick up on the grapey as you did. It's definitely much different malt compared to the other German Pils malts I routinely use.

So papery in the O'fest - is that attributed to some o2? And you must explain the retro nasal procedure...presume that's a judging technique?

Thanks again for the feedback!


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on June 13, 2016, 05:04:39 PM
So papery in the O'fest - is that attributed to some o2? And you must explain the retro nasal procedure...presume that's a judging technique?

Re: O2; Typically, yes. Age and storage are other factors, but minimizing O2 is the first step as it can/will speed up aging and amplify storage issues.

Retro-nasal is a technique that can be used to amplify flavors and aromas. I use it when I can't put my finger on something I identify during normal tasting/smelling. When you taste the beer, swallow some of the beer while leaving a bit in your mouth. Then open your lips slightly with your tongue pressed against your front teeth. Breathe in quickly through your mouth and then breathe out through your nose. The goal is to spray the beer around your mouth while breathing in. You should be able to pick up on tertiary notes with this or suss out things than you can't with normal tasting. Since it is more sensitive, I make a point to mention that's how I got it so that it's isn't thought of as a huge deal.

I'm sure you have seen retro-nasal done with wine, I just try and do it quietly so as not to come off as a snooty-mc-snooterson at a competition. I've only seen a few other people do it at beer comps and it was at Nationals.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: AmandaK on June 13, 2016, 05:09:37 PM
Hey Ken - I forgot to ask. What mash are you using to hit 1.010 nearly every time? Is it that 147F one?
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 13, 2016, 05:21:21 PM
Amanda FWIW, I stepped the last helles I did.  145/60, 160/60.  Landed right @ 1.010  .
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: jeffy on June 13, 2016, 09:56:24 PM
I almost retro-nasaled the beer I was drinking when I read snooty-mc-snooterson.

Did anybody get a chance to try the Bretty McBrettface beer at club night?  It had a long line.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on June 13, 2016, 11:23:58 PM
Hey Ken - I forgot to ask. What mash are you using to hit 1.010 nearly every time? Is it that 147F one?

so the pils was done at 143F for 60min, 162F for 60 min. that resulted in1.008 FG
the dort you got was 145F for 60, 160F for 60- since changed that to same as pils
the ofest was 145F for 60, 162F for 60

the pils recipe:
10 lbs   Barke,Weyermann Pils (1.5 SRM)                          Grain   1   96.4 %
6.0 oz   Carahell (Weyermann) (13.0 SRM)                   Grain   2   3.6 %
0.60 oz   German Merkur [15.50 %] - Boil 45.0 min           Hop   3   25.6 IBUs
1.00 oz   Hallertauer [3.10 %] - Boil 15.0 min                   Hop   4   4.6 IBUs
1.00 oz   Saaz [3.20 %] - Boil 15.0 min                           Hop   5   4.8 IBUs
1.00 oz   Select Spalt [3.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min                   Hop   6   5.2 IBUs
1.0 pkg   German Lager (White Labs #WLP830) [35.49 ml]
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 13, 2016, 11:48:33 PM
Hey Ken - I forgot to ask. What mash are you using to hit 1.010 nearly every time? Is it that 147F one?

so the pils was done at 143F for 60min, 162F for 60 min. that resulted in1.008 FG
the dort you got was 145F for 60, 160F for 60- since changed that to same as pils
the ofest was 145F for 60, 162F for 60

the pils recipe:
10 lbs   Barke,Weyermann Pils (1.5 SRM)                          Grain   1   96.4 %
6.0 oz   Carahell (Weyermann) (13.0 SRM)                   Grain   2   3.6 %
0.60 oz   German Merkur [15.50 %] - Boil 45.0 min           Hop   3   25.6 IBUs
1.00 oz   Hallertauer [3.10 %] - Boil 15.0 min                   Hop   4   4.6 IBUs
1.00 oz   Saaz [3.20 %] - Boil 15.0 min                           Hop   5   4.8 IBUs
1.00 oz   Select Spalt [3.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min                   Hop   6   5.2 IBUs
1.0 pkg   German Lager (White Labs #WLP830) [35.49 ml]



Ken, what's your take on the Weyermann Barke ? Have you used any of the other Barke Malts aside from the pils? My next 2 beers are an O-fest and German pils. I'm kicking around the idea of using Barke Vienna, Munich, and Pils malts in my O-fest. Then using Barke pils in the G-pils.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on June 13, 2016, 11:53:04 PM
Hey Ken - I forgot to ask. What mash are you using to hit 1.010 nearly every time? Is it that 147F one?

so the pils was done at 143F for 60min, 162F for 60 min. that resulted in1.008 FG
the dort you got was 145F for 60, 160F for 60- since changed that to same as pils
the ofest was 145F for 60, 162F for 60

the pils recipe:
10 lbs   Barke,Weyermann Pils (1.5 SRM)                          Grain   1   96.4 %
6.0 oz   Carahell (Weyermann) (13.0 SRM)                   Grain   2   3.6 %
0.60 oz   German Merkur [15.50 %] - Boil 45.0 min           Hop   3   25.6 IBUs
1.00 oz   Hallertauer [3.10 %] - Boil 15.0 min                   Hop   4   4.6 IBUs
1.00 oz   Saaz [3.20 %] - Boil 15.0 min                           Hop   5   4.8 IBUs
1.00 oz   Select Spalt [3.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min                   Hop   6   5.2 IBUs
1.0 pkg   German Lager (White Labs #WLP830) [35.49 ml]



Ken, what's your take on the Weyermann Barke ? Have you used any of the other Barke Malts aside from the pils? My next 2 beers are an O-fest and German pils. I'm kicking around the idea of using Barke Vienna, Munich, and Pils malts in my O-fest. Then using Barke pils in the G-pils.
Not used any other as of yet. It's good- Amanda picked up some of the differences and I need to go back to it and see what I pick up in differences. I have a bottle with Avangard to compare it to so it might jump out at me . All 3 were steam stepped.

I know denny used pils recently but haven't seen his feedback on it.


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Title: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on June 13, 2016, 11:55:10 PM
So papery in the O'fest - is that attributed to some o2? And you must explain the retro nasal procedure...presume that's a judging technique?

Re: O2; Typically, yes. Age and storage are other factors, but minimizing O2 is the first step as it can/will speed up aging and amplify storage issues.

Retro-nasal is a technique that can be used to amplify flavors and aromas. I use it when I can't put my finger on something I identify during normal tasting/smelling. When you taste the beer, swallow some of the beer while leaving a bit in your mouth. Then open your lips slightly with your tongue pressed against your front teeth. Breathe in quickly through your mouth and then breathe out through your nose. The goal is to spray the beer around your mouth while breathing in. You should be able to pick up on tertiary notes with this or suss out things than you can't with normal tasting. Since it is more sensitive, I make a point to mention that's how I got it so that it's isn't thought of as a huge deal.

I'm sure you have seen retro-nasal done with wine, I just try and do it quietly so as not to come off as a snooty-mc-snooterson at a competition. I've only seen a few other people do it at beer comps and it was at Nationals.

Ok so I attempted the retro nasal thing....and didn't choke!! I can't pick it up but perhaps that's just my lack of sensory .

Edit: it was very fresh at about 30 days so perhaps even the beer gun and bottling may have contributed?? Just a wag.
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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 13, 2016, 11:56:36 PM
I know denny used pils recently but haven't seen his feedback on it.


He said it was fuller and very tasty. I'm gonna swing for the fences and use all Barke malts in the O-fest, with probably 833. I think it'll be pretty tasty.


Edit - Of course, not having heard any accounts about the Barke Vienna and Munich, I may swing and miss. I'll bet it turns out at least pretty good.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on June 14, 2016, 12:06:21 AM
Amanda- the alt was stepped just because i decided to start step mashing and figured why not. It's the zum uerige recipe but with wlp029... You will pick up some of 029 yeast character - probably go back to the alt yeast next time; it's very tasty just a tad differ with 029 IMO.


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 14, 2016, 12:40:53 AM
Had to look up the Barke malts and I'm curious I'm curious on it too.  Sounds great, maybe just just a little lower efficiency?  I'll have to see if I can get my hands on some, my Pilsner malt is running low anyway. 
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 14, 2016, 12:44:13 AM
Sounds great, maybe just just a little lower efficiency?


I don't know - Northern Brewer advertises it as having a high extract rate. I guess we'll see.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 14, 2016, 12:50:45 AM
Sounds great, maybe just just a little lower efficiency?


I don't know - Northern Brewer advertises it as having a high extract rate. I guess we'll see.
Disregard, that was me reading too quickly.  The barley yield is low, extract yield is high.  I'd expect this malt to cost a bit more, but for us homebrewers and many craft brewers that's not the main concern. 

New Weyermann® Malt Barke®: Old Variety, Many Advantages

06.12.2014

Weyermann® Specialty Malts has recently added another traditional malt variety to its heirloom portfolio: Barke®
Barke once enjoyed the highest reputation among German brewers and was the most widely used barley variety given the authentic and highly aromatic beers that can be produced with this type of malt. The yield of barley is indeed lower by about 20% than with current varieties, but that is no reason for Weyermann® Specialty Malts not to back Barke®. For Barke® brings with it the best conditions for an intense malt taste in the beer, a full-bodied flavor and good head.
Weyermann® Specialty Malts now offers the traditional malt in the Weyermann® Barke® Pilsner Malt, Weyermann® Barke® Vienna Malt and Weyermann® Barke® Munich Malt varieties and so offers a perfect base for authentic pale ales and lagers.
Barke® is a variety with all-round advantages: Agronomically, it has relatively short, sturdy stalks and is fairly resistant to leaf rust, leaf scald, net blotch, and mildew. In the malt and brew houses, it excels because of its large kernel diameter, good kernel homogeneity, good germination potential, superior diastatic power, excellent extract yield, with only moderate levels of soluble nitrogen, due to low beta-glucan values. A wort made from Barke® also maintains its color well during the kettle boil. This makes it a particularly sought-after base malt for pale ales and blond lagers, especially for Pilsners.
These are some of the reasons, why Weyermann® Specialty Malts has decided not to let Barke® be forgotten, even though Barke® is now being superseded in large-scale agriculture by newer thoroughbred-varieties with even higher extract values. Weyermann® can do this, because it sources virtually all of its barley from reliable contract farmers. Therefore, Barke® will continue to have a home in the portfolio of Weyermann® Specialty Malts and will be able to keep its success story among barley varieties going – premium quality especially for Craft Beers.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 14, 2016, 01:01:39 AM
Cool. I'm looking forward to using it. Gotta believe those are really nice malts.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: JT on June 14, 2016, 01:03:35 AM
Cool. I'm looking forward to using it. Gotta believe those are really nice malts.
Agree - if they're getting lower yield and still farming and harvesting there's a reason - hopefully it's tasty beer!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on June 14, 2016, 06:33:18 PM
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I sampled this table saison sent by Jim on Memorial Day. Sorry for the late review.

This beer poured a hazy golden color with a big frothy head. The head was long lasting and laced nicely on the glass.

I picked up citrus in the nose and in the flavor. I couldn't pick out the peppercorns, although my sister in law could.

It was a very light beer which was perfect for sitting around with family on the holiday. I found it to be on the thin side but I find that with most session strength beers.

All in all it was very enjoyable.




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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on June 14, 2016, 06:40:37 PM
Jim's NHC stout

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My wife and I enjoyed this bottle in Sunday night.

As you can see, it pours opaque with a thick tan head. The head stuck around and clung to the sides of the glass.

I found it be toasty and smooth with a nice bitterness in the finish. I attributed that more to the roast than the hops but I could be wrong. Jen said she could smell the hops (I didn't pick them out but my allergies have been merciless for several weeks).

There is no noticeable alcohol heat or flavor to this stout. It is very well balanced and I can definitely see how it advanced. Too bad it didn't medal.

The summary from my better half is as follows: tasty, hoppy on the nose, roasty on the tongue, complex, full-bodied.

We enjoyed it. Send more!


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 14, 2016, 06:55:22 PM
Jim's NHC stout

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My wife and I enjoyed this bottle in Sunday night.

As you can see, it pours opaque with a thick tan head. The head stuck around and clung to the sides of the glass.

I found it be toasty and smooth with a nice bitterness in the finish. I attributed that more to the roast than the hops but I could be wrong. Jen said she could smell the hops (I didn't pick them out but my allergies have been merciless for several weeks).

There is no noticeable alcohol heat or flavor to this stout. It is very well balanced and I can definitely see how it advanced. Too bad it didn't medal.

The summary from my better half is as follows: tasty, hoppy on the nose, roasty on the tongue, complex, full-bodied.

We enjoyed it. Send more!


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That's awesome Joe. So glad you enjoyed it. I'm keeping this recipe! Big shout out to those who helped design it, I think Hoosierbrew in particular, maybe you too Joe. Its been a while and my memory sucks.

Now I'm curious what you think of the Challenge beer. I had one to send you, right? Hey, where are all the Challenge Beer reviews? I thought several of us made one?...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 14, 2016, 06:59:31 PM
Yeah, that stout looks nice, Jim. Makes me want to submit my American stout next year. Or at least brew another one this fall. It's one of my recipes that I leave alone as is.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on June 14, 2016, 07:01:56 PM
I'll have to check the tags on the bottles.

I have the Pilsner in the fridge and I think three bottles in the cellar.

I'll try to make the challenge beer next.

Your stout reminded me of a non-imperial stout I brewed awhile back that I've been planning to rebrew.  Yours was much better though.  My first go at it I used Nottingham and I couldn't get past the weird tanginess I get from that yeast.  I'm assuming you used one of the Chico variants, as your stout was very clean.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 14, 2016, 07:03:04 PM
Yeah, that stout looks nice, Jim. Makes me want to submit my American stout next year. Or at least brew another one this fall. It's one of my recipes that I leave alone as is.
Its about 90% your advice. The one I rebrewed got some dry hops... at a local Grand Master 2's advice. I don't think it hurt it.

I've got an imperial version on the schedule for next brew day.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: HoosierBrew on June 14, 2016, 07:06:42 PM
Yeah, that stout looks nice, Jim. Makes me want to submit my American stout next year. Or at least brew another one this fall. It's one of my recipes that I leave alone as is.
Its about 90% your advice. The one I rebrewed got some dry hops... at a local Grand Master 2's advice. I don't think it hurt it.

I've got an imperial version on the schedule for next brew day.



Can't beat grand Master-level advice! I didn't dry hop my last one, but it got a short whirlpool addition. It came off to me like I'd dry hopped maybe close to an oz. About right I thought.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 14, 2016, 09:15:53 PM
Yeah, that stout looks nice, Jim. Makes me want to submit my American stout next year. Or at least brew another one this fall. It's one of my recipes that I leave alone as is.
Its about 90% your advice. The one I rebrewed got some dry hops... at a local Grand Master 2's advice. I don't think it hurt it.

I've got an imperial version on the schedule for next brew day.



Can't beat grand Master-level advice! I didn't dry hop my last one, but it got a short whirlpool addition. It came off to me like I'd dry hopped maybe close to an oz. About right I thought.
Mine had too much hop aroma fresh, for my tastes anyway, but it slowly dropped to "noticeable" over the course of a month or so. I have one bottle left in my fridge from when I bottled for Baltimore. I think I'll give it a go tonight after supper.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on June 15, 2016, 01:36:14 AM
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Jim's challenge beer. The card only says challenge.

Looks like a stout. Mild hops on the nose. First sip is roast. Thin body. Not bad.

Full review to follow.


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 16, 2016, 03:35:24 PM
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Jim's challenge beer. The card only says challenge.

Looks like a stout. Mild hops on the nose. First sip is roast. Thin body. Not bad.

Full review to follow.


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That was 1/2 lb of roasted barley steeped as 3 gallons heated on the kitchen stove. When I could see steam, I pulled the bag and stired in a 3lb sack of DME. Stuff I had, I think it was pils. At a boil I added a palm full of cascade pellets. Ten min later I added whirlfloc. Ten min later I put the pot in a sink full of ice and added a palm full of cascade and a palm full of centennial. This all was done while I was waiting for an all grain to mash. After brewing two all grain batches, I poured this into a bucket an dumped in a packet of US05.
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Post by: brewinhard on June 16, 2016, 08:12:17 PM
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Jim's challenge beer. The card only says challenge.

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I believe the card reads "Chall ange."  That is French for "drink me".  8)
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: fmader on June 21, 2016, 03:02:26 PM
Sorry for the delay. It's been extremely busy lately, but here are a few brief reviews of beers that Amanda sent me.

The first is her cyser. I'll be completely honest. This is the first cyser I've ever had. It poured a beautiful straw yellow color. It was very clear. It was also purposely not carbed. The nose was certainly of apple. The taste and finish was similar to a sweet Riesling. It was a refreshing beverage.
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The second was her dry hopped version of her GOOAAALDEN Sour. Again, sours are not readily available in small town Ohio, but I have had a few. This was everything that you would expect in a sour. It poured a hazy amber color. The Amarillo dry hops added a nice hop aroma that added to the funky nose. The sour was sharp, making it a nice sipping beer for me. It was very good and look forward to trying the the non-dry hopped version soon.
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Amanda also supplied me with a bomber of Crane Orange Gose. And of course I deleted the picture from my phone. This is a small local brewery near her. I split this beer with my uncle during a break of building my deck. Very refreshing beer. It was light, with a more than noticeable orange aroma and flavor. Then it had a slightly salty finish.

I will review the other sour after I drink it. She also sent me a bomber of Nebraska Brewing Sexy Betty, which is a RIS that is aged in brandy barrels. This went into my Christmas stash. I'll report back on this around the holidays. I really can't wait to try this one. There's a chance that this might come out during a beer tasting that I'll be hosting later this summer... But I'm not quite sure that I want to share it  :P
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on June 23, 2016, 01:45:40 AM
Just finished crushing some coriander in the mortar and pestle as a summer storm rolled. My wit is coming to the end of the mash and I've got some time to post.

Jim's old school APA.

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Enjoyed this last night while making dinner for the kids.

Bottled off the keg. Light fiZ when I opened it so I was afraid it might be under carbed. No so.

It poured a crystal clear golden color with a frothy white head.

The nose is all hops but not over powering.

I got hops upfront in the flavor followed by some sweet malt and a clean finish.  Some citrus too.

There was no detectable alcohol.

I don't have notes on mouthfeel but it seemed just right. This is a solid beer. Very tasty.

Jim also sent along the slip into darkness cascading dark lager.

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I can't find my notes (the note cards are handy Jim ) but it was tasty. Big roast and lots of PNW hops. Smooth. I did not share it with the wife.

I think I've got two commercial brews left but I'm done with Jim's beers unfortunately.


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on June 23, 2016, 01:38:28 PM
Good deal, glad you enjoyed it
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on June 28, 2016, 03:43:31 PM
Holy Crud do I feel like a *&#% Heal....Coolman26 has been in the hospital for 20 days...hence no communication...I will crawl back in my hole now...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: pete b on June 28, 2016, 04:52:39 PM
Holy Crud do I feel like a *&#% Heal....Coolman26 has been in the hospital for 20 days...hence no communication...I will crawl back in my hole now...
Sorry to hear that I hope he is better. And we all have put our foot in our mouth before.
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Post by: HoosierBrew on June 28, 2016, 04:55:33 PM
Holy Crud do I feel like a *&#% Heal....Coolman26 has been in the hospital for 20 days...hence no communication...I will crawl back in my hole now...
Sorry to hear that I hope he is better. And we all have put our foot in our mouth before.


Yep. Feel better coolman26.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: coolman26 on June 28, 2016, 07:30:25 PM
Holy Crud do I feel like a *&#% Heal....Coolman26 has been in the hospital for 20 days...hence no communication...I will crawl back in my hole now...
Glenn it is no big deal. How would you have known anyway. I've been through enough healthcare since 2000 for all of us. Thanks for the thoughts, greatly appreciated. Everyone has setbacks in life. Trudge on through, all you can do. I'm sending some SunKing, 3 Floyds, Upland, Schlafly, and TinMan.



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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Hooper on June 28, 2016, 11:29:12 PM
Jeff,

After hearing about your ordeal, I just hope you heal up and get back to doing what you enjoy...
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: ynotbrusum on June 29, 2016, 02:19:02 AM
Please tell me that your hospitalization had nothing to do with your consumption of my Homebrew!!!!  Get well soon, Coolman26!
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: coolman26 on June 30, 2016, 09:56:28 PM
Actually may have saved me!!


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: coolman26 on June 30, 2016, 09:57:56 PM
I'll have some reviews up soon. All were awesome, step above anything on any shelf. Loved that Amber Lager!!


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Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: Joe Sr. on August 02, 2016, 04:43:32 PM
Finally getting around to my final reviews of the beers Jim sent.  These last two are commercial beers, not homebrew.

The first (second to last?) is pFriem Family Brewers Pilsner.  I drank this one awhile ago, while cooking dinner as usual.  It poured a clear straw color with a big frothy head (no pictures that I can recall).  It had a mildly hoppy and sweet aroma.  I got a strong bitterness on the first sip, which faded to a malt sweetness in the after taste.  The malt sweetness was more pronounced as the beer warmed up.  Nice lacing on the glass.

The final beer was Rogue's 8 Hop IPA.  Shared this with the wife last night while - you guessed it - making dinner.  Didn't take any notes, but it was delicious.  Not over-the-top hoppy.  The wife liked it, too, and she's not usually one to drink hoppy beers.  IPAs have changed significantly since I started brewing some 20 years ago.  Much lighter in body and more drinkable.  I've largely avoided them for the last decade or more, but I think I'll be coming back to them more often.

This swap was fun.  Thanks for the beers, Jim.  And thanks for the second effort on getting them delivered.
Title: Re: 2016 Spring Swap - Official Thread
Post by: klickitat jim on December 17, 2016, 11:24:52 PM
Finally getting around to my final reviews of the beers Jim sent.  These last two are commercial beers, not homebrew.

The first (second to last?) is pFriem Family Brewers Pilsner.  I drank this one awhile ago, while cooking dinner as usual.  It poured a clear straw color with a big frothy head (no pictures that I can recall).  It had a mildly hoppy and sweet aroma.  I got a strong bitterness on the first sip, which faded to a malt sweetness in the after taste.  The malt sweetness was more pronounced as the beer warmed up.  Nice lacing on the glass.

The final beer was Rogue's 8 Hop IPA.  Shared this with the wife last night while - you guessed it - making dinner.  Didn't take any notes, but it was delicious.  Not over-the-top hoppy.  The wife liked it, too, and she's not usually one to drink hoppy beers.  IPAs have changed significantly since I started brewing some 20 years ago.  Much lighter in body and more drinkable.  I've largely avoided them for the last decade or more, but I think I'll be coming back to them more often.

This swap was fun.  Thanks for the beers, Jim.  And thanks for the second effort on getting them delivered.
Glad you enjoyed

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