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Title: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: tomthebrewer on June 22, 2010, 11:52:53 PM
Sweet!
The Fedex guy showed up today with my new toy!
 I crushed 7 pounds for my next batch with the crank and will never do that again. I was sweating in the kitchen cranking that damn thing. Glad to have a motor and drill to run in from now on.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: pliskadm on June 23, 2010, 08:26:25 AM
I have a Corona Mill and have done 2 batches now with it (by hand crank). First batch was 18.5 lbs and the second was 17.5 lbs.  I know the pain you speak of but to me its all in a day of brewing..or the day or two before.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: mikeypedersen on June 23, 2010, 01:50:30 PM
I crushed 7 pounds for my next batch with the crank and will never do that again. I was sweating in the kitchen cranking that damn thing. Glad to have a motor and drill to run in from now on.
Only took me once too!   :D
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: bearcat on June 23, 2010, 02:08:13 PM
I would just verify the gap.  Mine must have been dropped by  UPS or something because it was off on both ends from the manufactures setting of 39mm.   I used my Credit card first then eventually got the feeler gauge for more accurate settings.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: tomthebrewer on June 23, 2010, 02:13:53 PM
Good idea, I'll check that out. I was really impressed with the aggressive knurl on the rollers. My old one is worn almost smooth. I could have send it back to the fella that made it, but the wifey beat me to the punch!
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: blatz on June 24, 2010, 04:02:57 PM
I was really impressed with the aggressive knurl on the rollers.

tom, put about 3-4000lbs of grain through it and they'll wear down, trust me... ;)

definitely check the gap, and if you hit any pebbles in your grind, be sure to check it again.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: tomthebrewer on June 24, 2010, 05:34:02 PM
3-4000 pounds would have me brewing well past my hundredth birthday at my rate!
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: bruck on June 29, 2010, 10:57:49 AM
I have that 15lb Barley Crusher. I've probably crushed grain for 30 batches or so already and it works like a charm. Great value!
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: dcbc on July 22, 2010, 03:36:27 PM
Sweet!
The Fedex guy showed up today with my new toy!
 I crushed 7 pounds for my next batch with the crank and will never do that again. I was sweating in the kitchen cranking that damn thing. Glad to have a motor and drill to run in from now on.

I suffered cranking that thing in the kitchen forever (probably 7 batches).  Tried the drill and had the chuck seize up on me.  Finally got the Surplus Sales motor rigged up to a switch on a table and life is good.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: Jo Diesel on July 28, 2010, 10:11:07 AM
Don't you feel as giddy as a kid on Christmas when new toys come in the mail ;)
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: rep on July 30, 2010, 04:55:39 AM
3-4000 pounds would have me brewing well past my hundredth birthday at my rate!

And may we all be here to toast to you.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: euge on July 30, 2010, 05:39:08 AM
I've had mine for three years now. Dropped it directly on the drive-shaft so there's a slight warp to it but it still grinds like a champ once it gets going. One thing to watch out for is that grain swells and contracts along with the humidity- so periodically you might have to loosen up the gap slightly to get the grain to "bite" and start passing through.

I run it as fast as I can with a drill.

Congrats on the BC I hope you wear that sucker out!
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: jptheelder on August 10, 2010, 09:21:38 PM
I just got mine a few days ago. I first put 1 lb grain through by hand cranck to play with it, so I wont be doing that again. the drill was awsome and about 1,000 times faster. BTW how do you adjust the gap if, one wanted to?
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: euge on August 10, 2010, 09:38:31 PM
There's two knurled knobs for adjusting at each end. You can loosen them by backing off on the screws by each knob.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: BarleynYeast on August 10, 2010, 09:46:29 PM
I've had mine for three years now. Dropped it directly on the drive-shaft so there's a slight warp to it but it still grinds like a champ once it gets going. One thing to watch out for is that grain swells and contracts along with the humidity- so periodically you might have to loosen up the gap slightly to get the grain to "bite" and start passing through.

I run it as fast as I can with a drill.

Congrats on the BC I hope you wear that sucker out!

+1      I had the same problem and thought the shaft was slipping on the roller until I looked underneath and saw it just was not puling grain through.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: richardt on August 10, 2010, 11:17:26 PM
It helps to run the drill at full speed/high speed before slowly adding the grains to the hopper.

In other words, it will be a lot easier on you and your drill if you don't load all of the grains into the hopper and try to start the rollers.  That requires a LOT of torque.

Instead, just have an assistant hold your drill and BC and get the rollers running fast before you slowly pour the grains into the hopper.  I try to have no more than a half inch of grains in the hopper (just enough to cover the rollers).  If you're getting a lot of jams (roller stops), either the drill speed is too low (or not enough torque) or the mill gap is too narrow.

The narrow mill gap was probably my situation on the last two batches (I got great efficiencies, but horribly long lauters).  I've since widened the gap a little more (grist was too finely crushed, IMO, on the last two batches).
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: tubercle on August 10, 2010, 11:35:09 PM
It helps to run the drill at full speed/high speed before slowly adding the grains to the hopper.

In other words, it will be a lot easier on you and your drill if you don't load all of the grains into the hopper and try to start the rollers.  That requires a LOT of torque.

Instead, just have an assistant hold your drill and BC and get the rollers running fast before you slowly pour the grains into the hopper.  I try to have no more than a half inch of grains in the hopper (just enough to cover the rollers).  If you're getting a lot of jams (roller stops), either the drill speed is too low (or not enough torque) or the mill gap is too narrow.

The narrow mill gap was probably my situation on the last two batches (I got great efficiencies, but horribly long lauters).  I've since widened the gap a little more (grist was too finely crushed, IMO, on the last two batches).

 

 I remember someone on this board who got a running go to crush some rye. Flipped his crusher and grain across the floor. Hmmm....wonder who that could have been? Wish I could have been there to see it. I would have bought him some new grain as payment. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: richardt on August 10, 2010, 11:39:32 PM
It wasn't me!  Though a video of that happening would make a great post here!
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: gruversm on August 16, 2010, 11:51:17 PM
What width does everyone gap their Barley Crusher?
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: gordonstrong on August 17, 2010, 12:51:40 AM
Hmm, I think I have a different solution for my mill.  Use a big-ass drill.  Needs a lot of torque?  Check. 
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: theDarkSide on August 17, 2010, 11:40:24 AM
What width does everyone gap their Barley Crusher?

I used mine at the factory setting of .039 for a while then adjusted it down to .030.  I only say a minor gain in efficiency, but I think I'll leave it there for now.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: Kit B on August 23, 2010, 08:41:19 PM
I set mine to .027" & condition my malt.
Seems to do a great job.
Just don't over-condition, or you'll end up with a gummed-up Barley Crusher, a broken hand crank & a burned out drill.
I'll never make that mistake, again.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: bonjour on August 23, 2010, 10:20:45 PM
I remember someone on this board who got a running go to crush some rye. Flipped his crusher and grain across the floor. Hmmm....wonder who that could have been? Wish I could have been there to see it. I would have bought him some new grain as payment. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I wasn't using rye, but I didn't have my hand holding the hopper to keep it from flipping. 

no that NEVER happened to me.   I recently acquired a bridge in NY, I'd be glad to part with . . . .
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today! - GAP question
Post by: roartydh on August 27, 2010, 08:46:27 PM
Not to change the subject, but, any advice on gap settings.  Got a fairly well used phils mill, lately been having target gravity issues and noticed whole grains after mash.  Seems dependent on humidity and grain type, but definitely a trend.  Double grinding seems to help.

It has adjustment only on one side and it is set to the min gap.

So, looking for some gap numbers to see if this baby just needs replaced.
Title: Re: Barley Crusher in today!
Post by: k4df4l on August 28, 2010, 03:08:50 PM
I've been having some issues with my BC not feeding grain through the rollers...seems that the slave roller was catching.  I could reach up under and give it a nudge then it would start crushing again.

Always been pretty conscious about using a brush to clean it off after every used but, to be honest, I've not lubricated the bushings or anything.  When I took it apart, there was a bunch of gunk that needed to be cleaned out which definitely was causing my problems.  This weekend will be the first run with the cleaned and lubricated BC so I have high hopes of going back to trouble free milling.