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Title: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on March 09, 2016, 03:34:08 PM
How much would you recommend for a Kolsch? What is the lovibond rating?

I currently use about 85% Pilsner, 10% Vienna, and 5% wheat in my kolsch and am considering replacing the wheat and vienna with cologne malt for the next attempt.
Title: Re: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: kmccaf on March 09, 2016, 04:43:40 PM
I believe I used it as 100% of the grist when I used it. I am not sure how much a difference it will make at 15%. Personally, I would go higher than that. At least 50%. I also didn't like the Cologne malt enough to use it again. It was a very good beer. I just didn't think it was worth the premium price.
Title: Re: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on March 09, 2016, 04:49:40 PM
I believe I used it as 100% of the grist when I used it. I am not sure how much a difference it will make at 15%. Personally, I would go higher than that. At least 50%. I also didn't like the Cologne malt enough to use it again. It was a very good beer. I just didn't think it was worth the premium price.

My LHBS sells Schill Malts cheaper than any of their others so the cost to me is not exorbitant. I thought the color was darker than Vienna so assumed it would give more character than Vienna as well...
Title: Re: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: kmccaf on March 09, 2016, 06:02:08 PM
It is a bit different. Not necessarily more flavorful. It came across to me as something inbetween light Munich and Vienna. If the price is right, I say use it at very high percentage. It is cheaper for me to get the almost the same results with 85% Pils and 15% Munich. Also, I happen to like the Pils/Munich combo slightly more. YMMV.
Title: Re: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on March 09, 2016, 06:20:41 PM
It is a bit different. Not necessarily more flavorful. It came across to me as something inbetween light Munich and Vienna. If the price is right, I say use it at very high percentage. It is cheaper for me to get the almost the same results with 85% Pils and 15% Munich. Also, I happen to like the Pils/Munich combo slightly more. YMMV.

Thanks. With the color rating (4.5L?) I could see it being somewhere in between what you mentioned.
Title: Re: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: justsimon.co.uk on March 09, 2016, 10:21:46 PM
Kölsch is a good style. From memory, I made a good one with around 85% pale, 10% vienna and 5% munich.

If you don't already use it, Brewtarget is a good software for looking at these values.
Title: Re: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 09, 2016, 10:27:38 PM
How much would you recommend for a Kolsch? What is the lovibond rating?

I currently use about 85% Pilsner, 10% Vienna, and 5% wheat in my kolsch and am considering replacing the wheat and vienna with cologne malt for the next attempt.

you could go many different ways with the schill malt. spilt it 50/50 with your pils % or at full 85%kolsch malt, and then continue with your vienna and wheat %.
Title: Re: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on March 09, 2016, 10:30:53 PM
Kölsch is a good style. From memory, I made a good one with around 85% pale, 10% vienna and 5% munich.

If you don't already use it, Brewtarget is a good software for looking at these values.

I use Beersmith. I have brewed Kolsch many times and was just looking for some feedback regarding this particular malt.
Title: Re: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on March 09, 2016, 10:36:31 PM
How much would you recommend for a Kolsch? What is the lovibond rating?

I currently use about 85% Pilsner, 10% Vienna, and 5% wheat in my kolsch and am considering replacing the wheat and vienna with cologne malt for the next attempt.

you could go many different ways with the schill malt. spilt it 50/50 with your pils % or at full 85%kolsch malt, and then continue with your vienna and wheat %.

Thanks. I guess I was more concerned with color. At 100%, the beer would have a SRM near 5 which is darker than I prefer. At most, I would probably use it at 50%.
Title: Re: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: kmccaf on March 09, 2016, 11:12:23 PM
How much would you recommend for a Kolsch? What is the lovibond rating?

I currently use about 85% Pilsner, 10% Vienna, and 5% wheat in my kolsch and am considering replacing the wheat and vienna with cologne malt for the next attempt.

you could go many different ways with the schill malt. spilt it 50/50 with your pils % or at full 85%kolsch malt, and then continue with your vienna and wheat %.

Thanks. I guess I was more concerned with color. At 100%, the beer would have a SRM near 5 which is darker than I prefer. At most, I would probably use it at 50%.

I think you will be very happy with it at 50%. Let us know how you like it. I may need to reevaluate that malt.
Title: Re: Schill Kolsch (Cologne) Malt
Post by: Wort-H.O.G. on March 09, 2016, 11:14:20 PM
yeah I like it. using it in a cream ale as the base malt at 85% this weekend.