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Title: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: flbrewer on March 19, 2016, 10:20:34 PM
I'm looking for a brewery in the Southeast (preferably Florida) that would be open to allowing me to shadow the brewmaster/ asst. brewers for a period of time.

I'm trying to figure out a way to get some commercial experience while keeping my day job, and not having to do something like Seibel.

Anyone have any friends that fit this bill? Cheers!
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: boulderbrewer on March 19, 2016, 10:45:28 PM
I'm nowhere near that part of the US, good luck. I may need a helper for the summer though.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: euge on March 20, 2016, 04:32:19 AM
Depending on a few things I might be available this summer.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: majorvices on March 20, 2016, 11:09:56 AM
Most breweries where you will actually learn anything substantial won't take volunteers anymore. Too much of a liability. But you might could get get a part time evening job washing kegs and cleaning drains scrubbing floors and polishing tanks. I'm about to look for someone to do just that.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: denny on March 20, 2016, 03:45:44 PM
Most breweries where you will actually learn anything substantial won't take volunteers anymore. Too much of a liability. But you might could get get a part time evening job washing kegs and cleaning drains scrubbing floors and polishing tanks. I'm about to look for someone to do just that.

I agree.  The brewery where I work would definitely not take volunteers due to liability.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on March 21, 2016, 02:18:15 AM
I would also agree. It is quite an investment on my part and if you are not going to stick around, why bother.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: ultravista on March 21, 2016, 02:54:31 AM
What is the liability, recipes, or?
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: troybinso on March 21, 2016, 03:05:34 AM
Breweries are full of injuries waiting to happen. Steam, fire, boiling liquid, slippery floors, ladders, fork lifts, skin melting chemicals, drunk people...
Title: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: Stevie on March 21, 2016, 03:05:41 AM
What is the liability, recipes, or?
Safety. Volunteers may not be covered under insurance plans.

I amazed anytime I see friends post on Facebook or the like about the 8 hours they "volunteered" bottling at a brewery. They are a damn business and you just increased their bottom line without any compensation other than a case of beer on the way out the door. Is it only me that thinks these people are suckers?
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: a10t2 on March 21, 2016, 04:59:46 AM
I wonder why I would "employ" someone who's willing to tell me up front that their labor is worthless.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: klickitat jim on March 21, 2016, 07:14:23 AM
I wonder why I would "employ" someone who's willing to tell me up front that their labor is worthless.
Maybe they suspect they will receive more in education than they will return in labor?

I'd love to work for you Sean, but I dont ask because I'm sure you can't afford me. It would take at least 70k plus 6 weeks vacation and med/dental/vision... not to mention at least 15% additional into a Roth IRA. If you could afford that, you sure as heck wouldn't spend it on a used up old fart like me, lol.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: flbrewer on March 21, 2016, 08:58:51 AM

I wonder why I would "employ" someone who's willing to tell me up front that their labor is worthless.
Maybe they suspect they will receive more in education than they will return in labor?

I'd love to work for you Sean, but I dont ask because I'm sure you can't afford me. It would take at least 70k plus 6 weeks vacation and med/dental/vision... not to mention at least 15% additional into a Roth IRA. If you could afford that, you sure as heck wouldn't spend it on a used up old fart like me, lol.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: wayne1 on March 21, 2016, 11:45:26 AM
One of the local colleges offer a "Certificate in Applied Craft Brewing" Regis Certificate in Craft Brewing (http://www.regis.edu/RC/Academics/Degrees-and-Programs/Certificates-and-Licensures/Certificate-Craft-Brewing.aspx)

As well as classroom work, each student has to volunteer for 160 hours in a local craft brewery.

The college covers all insurance costs and liability. Many local breweries are taking advantage of this program to get another body in to clean kegs, polish tanks, haul grain, etc.

Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: majorvices on March 21, 2016, 12:11:34 PM
What is the liability, recipes, or?

I guess I thought it was self evident that a brewery is an incredibly dangerous place to work.You are working around hundreds of gallons of hot liquid, pressurized vessels and carrying heavy things all day long all while walking on a slick surface. People get hurt all the time. There have been people killed or burned over 90% of their body within the last few months working in the brewing industry.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: majorvices on March 21, 2016, 12:13:27 PM
What is the liability, recipes, or?
Safety. Volunteers may not be covered under insurance plans.

I amazed anytime I see friends post on Facebook or the like about the 8 hours they "volunteered" bottling at a brewery. They are a damn business and you just increased their bottom line without any compensation other than a case of beer on the way out the door. Is it only me that thinks these people are suckers?

People like volunteering on bottling lines because it is kinda fun unless you have to do it every day. Then is sucks.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on March 21, 2016, 05:43:17 PM
I few years ago I reached to many local breweries inquiring about volunteering. I didn't get one response. I was bummed out then but understand the whole liability thing now.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: boulderbrewer on March 21, 2016, 05:47:47 PM
To clarify, if you work in our brewery you are a paid employee. Only volunteers are ones who help pour beer at beer fests on occasions.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on March 22, 2016, 01:15:29 AM

What is the liability, recipes, or?
Safety. Volunteers may not be covered under insurance plans.

I amazed anytime I see friends post on Facebook or the like about the 8 hours they "volunteered" bottling at a brewery. They are a damn business and you just increased their bottom line without any compensation other than a case of beer on the way out the door. Is it only me that thinks these people are suckers?

May be not so. I am sure everybody would love to pay you buy some small businesses just can not afford it. This is most likely when you start up and do not have enough sales.
Title: Re: Brewery Volunteering
Post by: micsager on March 30, 2016, 04:11:48 PM

What is the liability, recipes, or?
Safety. Volunteers may not be covered under insurance plans.

I amazed anytime I see friends post on Facebook or the like about the 8 hours they "volunteered" bottling at a brewery. They are a damn business and you just increased their bottom line without any compensation other than a case of beer on the way out the door. Is it only me that thinks these people are suckers?

May be not so. I am sure everybody would love to pay you buy some small businesses just can not afford it. This is most likely when you start up and do not have enough sales.

Exactly Leos, think of Alaska Brewing.  They would not be where they are today without the many volunteers when they started.  And from what I hear, those original volunteers are STILL getting free beer.