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Title: The Martini Thread
Post by: a10t2 on November 13, 2009, 02:51:46 AM
I know there was one of these over on the-forum-that-shall-not-be-named, but it's gone now and was several years old anyway.

So, who else likes martinis? What's your secret? Is there some delicious but obscure gin I'm missing out on? In the name of lively discussion, I'll allow non-martini cocktails as long as they are substantially martini-esque. I'll even allow vodka!

Here are my (possibly excessive) thoughts on the subject: http://seanterrill.com/2009/05/14/the-perfect-martini/ (http://seanterrill.com/2009/05/14/the-perfect-martini/)

Summarizing:
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Ingredients
1/3 jigger (0.5 fl oz) Martini & Rossi dry vermouth
3 jiggers (4.5 fl oz) Bombay Sapphire gin
2 large olives
4 large ice cubes

Procedure
Place cocktail glass in the freezer to chill.
Soak olives in cold water for 10-15 minutes to remove brine.
Add gin, vermouth, and ice to cocktail shaker and shake vigorously for 15 seconds.
Strain into the chilled cocktail glass and add olives.
Wait 60 seconds for the drink to come to thermal equilibrium (watch the condensation on the glass), then enjoy.
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: tygo on November 13, 2009, 03:11:55 AM
Well, first of all you need to get rid of that gin and get yourself a nice bottle of Ketel One ;)

And as far as the vermouth goes I'll quote the bartender from my favorite martini bar in State College, PA (well the only martini bar there i guess):

Regular Martini:  Toss in a few drops of vermouth
Dry Martini:  Toss in a drop of vermouth
Extra Dry Martini:  Toss a drop of vermouth up in the air in the general direction of the martini glass and if it goes in, so be it

In all seriousness I know you're talking about good old traditional martinis here but I could never get on board with gin.  I like the smooth clean taste of cold vodka.  And I've graduated from the above measurements and appreciate a little more vermouth character in my martinis now.

So my vodka martini recipe (dirty) goes like this:

7 parts Ketel One
1 part Noilly Prat dry vermouth
Splash of olive juice
All of the above into the sufficient ice and stir
Pour into chilled cocktail glass and add olives

As a nice change I enjoy olives hand stuffed with sun dried tomatoes.
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on November 13, 2009, 03:26:43 AM
Every so often, I enjoy a beefeater gin martini, dirty.  I like to add just enough vermouth to kiss the rocks.  Then add the gin, some olive juice, and shake.  Pour into chilled martini glass and garnish with some speared olives.
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: glitterbug on November 13, 2009, 04:20:16 PM
So my vodka martini recipe (dirty) goes like this:

I'm sorry but you can't make a martini with vodka. It is against the law in some countries  8)

You can't go wrong with Bombay Sapphire, it is an excellent gin. The secret is to soak the olives in gin for a few weeks. I never considered washing the olives before soaking.
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: a10t2 on November 13, 2009, 07:00:09 PM
The secret is to soak the olives in gin for a few weeks.

That's interesting. I know some people soak them in vermouth (which I personally don't like, they pick up way too much flavor) but I'd never heard of using gin.
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: glitterbug on November 13, 2009, 07:55:10 PM
That's interesting. I know some people soak them in vermouth (which I personally don't like, they pick up way too much flavor) but I'd never heard of using gin.

Vermouth soaked olives sound pretty nasty  :o

I've tried all kinds of soaking times. Even a day or two of soaking will produce an incredible olive. Good for snaking too  ;D

Unfortunately, I don't remember much of my experiments. My gin drinking days are very hazy and I rarely touch the stuff anymore.

Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: BrewArk on November 13, 2009, 08:33:00 PM

I'm sorry but you can't make a martini with vodka. It is against the law in some countries  8)

You can't go wrong with Bombay Sapphire, it is an excellent gin. The secret is to soak the olives in gin for a few weeks. I never considered washing the olives before soaking.


Agreed!  All hail to Sapphire!!!
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: SwashBuckling Drunk on November 13, 2009, 09:10:04 PM

Unfortunately, I don't remember much of my experiments. My gin drinking days are very hazy and I rarely touch the stuff anymore.



I've noticed, over the years, that many gin drinkers have that issue.  I may be jaded as my Dad was (is) an "alchoholic" that drank nearly a fifth of Gin in his martinis every night for many years.  He quit about 30 years ago thank goodness.  I think he was the classic businessman of his time.  3 martini lunches and the whole bit.  Very successful too.  He was a mellow drunk.  He'd just get hammered then stumble in to bed.

Anyway, as the years have passed I've definitely noticed that gin drinkers (the real ones) are their own breed.  Sorry for the hijack- now back to your discussion.
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: tomthebrewer on November 13, 2009, 10:43:56 PM
I know there was one of these over on the-forum-that-shall-not-be-named, but it's gone now and was several years old anyway.

So, who else likes martinis? What's your secret? Is there some delicious but obscure gin I'm missing out on? In the name of lively discussion, I'll allow non-martini cocktails as long as they are substantially martini-esque. I'll even allow vodka!

Here are my (possibly excessive) thoughts on the subject: http://seanterrill.com/2009/05/14/the-perfect-martini/ (http://seanterrill.com/2009/05/14/the-perfect-martini/)

Summarizing:
Quote
Ingredients
1/3 jigger (0.5 fl oz) Martini & Rossi dry vermouth
3 jiggers (4.5 fl oz) Bombay Sapphire gin
2 large olives
4 large ice cubes

Procedure
Place cocktail glass in the freezer to chill.
Soak olives in cold water for 10-15 minutes to remove brine.
Add gin, vermouth, and ice to cocktail shaker and shake vigorously for 15 seconds.
Strain into the chilled cocktail glass and add olives.
Wait 60 seconds for the drink to come to thermal equilibrium (watch the condensation on the glass), then enjoy.

Well, this post inspired me to buy some gin, vermouth, and olives after work! I'm currently enjoying a martini and its buzz! There's nothing like straight booze to tie a good one on!

Personally, I think I'd like gin more than vodka. It has some flavor to it that vodka can't do. I understand the clean taste of 'tater liquor, but now I kinda get why my grandparents loved gin!
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: tesla_hv on November 14, 2009, 02:25:12 AM
I don't think that I have ever had a good martini.  It's not that I hate them or the taste of gin it's just that they come out a bit on the bland side for me.
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: a10t2 on November 14, 2009, 02:30:32 AM
they come out a bit on the bland side for me.

:o What kind of gin are you ordering? Low-end well gin probably won't have much flavor aside from the booze. Depending on the botanical used to infuse it, gin can have just as much variation and subtlety of flavor as whiskey.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to mix my second of the evening. Have to "celebrate" not getting another job...  :-\
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: mariojr on November 15, 2009, 02:33:20 AM
I often use Sapphire, but recently I have tried Plymouth and Millers and they both make an excellent Martini.

My method:

1 chill glass
2 rinse glass with a few drop of vermouth
3 shaken not stirred
4 pour
5 add three olives
6 drink
7 repeat
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: nicneufeld on November 15, 2009, 01:30:17 PM
My method...pour the gin into a tumbler glass, sweet vermouth into another.

Top up the first glass with tonic water and ice, the second with bourbon, bitters and ice!   ;D
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on November 15, 2009, 03:12:26 PM
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to mix my second of the evening. Have to "celebrate" not getting another job...  :-\

I hear ya!  I'm in the same boat.  But I've moved past being discouraged -- now I'm just getting pissed.  It's 9:00 a.m. here...that's not too early for a martini, is it?
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: BrewArk on November 15, 2009, 04:32:07 PM
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to mix my second of the evening. Have to "celebrate" not getting another job...  :-\

I hear ya!  I'm in the same boat.  But I've moved past being discouraged -- now I'm just getting pissed.  It's 9:00 a.m. here...that's not too early for a martini, is it?

Jimmy Buffet would say that's 5:00 somewhere! ;)
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: thirsty on November 25, 2009, 03:30:03 PM
I love Martini's but after the first one I could care less how it's made...

 ;D
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: bluesman on November 25, 2009, 07:26:20 PM
All of this martini talk is making me very thirsty right about now. ;D
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: tomthebrewer on November 25, 2009, 11:08:51 PM
I'm working on #2 while we speak and heading to a wine/beer tasting tonight at 6.

It might get ugly..........  :o
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: pashusa on November 26, 2009, 01:37:07 AM
Gordon's London Dry Gin is a classic. One of the best.
My method...pour the gin into a tumbler glass, sweet vermouth into another.

Top up the first glass with tonic water and ice, the second with bourbon, bitters and ice!   ;D

Right on brother.

As for vodka;
3 shots of Tito's Handmade vodka from Texas,
1 shot simple syrup,
juice from 1/2 lemon.

Shake with ice,
stain into chilled cocktail glass rimmed with sugar.
garnish with lemon twist.

3 of these prebar and forget the bar

Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: tygo on November 27, 2009, 02:50:03 AM
Decided to whip up a gin martini in response to this thread and all the gin-lovers that have posted.  It had been awhile and I wanted to renew my hatred since you can't criticize if you don't participate  ;D

Bombay Sapphire, about a capful of good vermouth, and two olives in the glass.

I'm actually enjoying it.  Very nice smooth taste.  I don't know if I could drink more than one or two (but who needs more than two anyway?) and I definitely prefer my vodka, but overall a very nice cocktail to cap off the Thanksgiving evening.

Hats off to the martini traditionalists for steering me back this way!
Title: Re: The Martini Thread
Post by: chauncey on November 29, 2009, 09:19:33 PM
I can remember “sniffing” my parents liquor collection, and the smell of Gin made me sick to my stomach. I think it was because the family female boozers always reeked of it when they bent over to kiss me hello or goodbye with their heavily lipsticked mouths. GROSS. About 20 years later, I decided to “get over it”. I went out for lunch and proceeded to get completely sloshed on martinis – I stopped counting around 10. Someone drive me home. Later I was sicker than I have ever been, and could not even think about eating a green olive for about the next decade, let alone think about gin. Juniper berries are somewhat poisonous, BTW.

So, I like my martinis made with vodka. And I like them dirty (I guess I got over the olive thing).

3 oz Pinnacle or Grey Goose vodka
half oz of light vermouth
1 teaspoon of the olive juice
stirred , not shaken, with ice cubes (not crushed)
served in a chilled glass with 3 wet Spanish olives