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Title: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 08, 2016, 02:06:24 PM
Saw the poster announcing-
June 15-17 Minneapolis MN.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: theDarkSide on June 08, 2016, 03:46:23 PM
Nice. 

372 days and counting.  (1 more day until Baltimore!) :)
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: ethinson on June 08, 2016, 06:17:16 PM
Dang it... I was hoping for Austin Texas.  Oh well.  Should still be fun.  I'm not making it to Baltimore this year, but I'll hope to go next year (and hope they change the name back to NHC.....)
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: theDarkSide on June 08, 2016, 07:38:46 PM
Dang it... I was hoping for Austin Texas.  Oh well.  Should still be fun.  I'm not making it to Baltimore this year, but I'll hope to go next year (and hope they change the name back to NHC.....)

I think in the past Texas was out due to some outdated alcohol laws.  I'm not sure if it's still the case though.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: denny on June 08, 2016, 08:32:40 PM
Dang it... I was hoping for Austin Texas.  Oh well.  Should still be fun.  I'm not making it to Baltimore this year, but I'll hope to go next year (and hope they change the name back to NHC.....)

Austin has been discussed a few times, but my take is that until several things get worked out woth laws it won't happen.  I think there were also facilities issues.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on June 09, 2016, 12:31:45 AM
I might have to go there.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 09, 2016, 02:52:31 AM
Dang it... I was hoping for Austin Texas.  Oh well.  Should still be fun.  I'm not making it to Baltimore this year, but I'll hope to go next year (and hope they change the name back to NHC.....)

Austin has been discussed a few times, but my take is that until several things get worked out woth laws it won't happen.  I think there were also facilities issues.
TX has some legal things with Homebrew that are issues to having the Conf. there as I understand it.

I typed NHC out of habit, but it is HomebrewCon.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: theDarkSide on June 09, 2016, 10:54:39 AM
I typed NHC out of habit, but it is HomebrewCon.

Stay strong..NHC NHC NHC!  ;)
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: blair.streit on June 09, 2016, 12:23:29 PM
Dang it... I was hoping for Austin Texas.  Oh well.  Should still be fun.  I'm not making it to Baltimore this year, but I'll hope to go next year (and hope they change the name back to NHC.....)

Austin has been discussed a few times, but my take is that until several things get worked out woth laws it won't happen.  I think there were also facilities issues.
TX has some legal things with Homebrew that are issues to having the Conf. there as I understand it.

I typed NHC out of habit, but it is HomebrewCon.
Yeah, I think we still have a few legal issues to work out in TX, though I'm not that up on pouring laws at festivals, etc.

The legal situation has definitely improved in TX, as a few years back our silly labeling laws did not allow anything over 4% to be called beer. In response the the TABC's argument to continue this practice, the judge responded that under the previous law:

Quote
Texas would likely face no [legal] obstacle if it wished to pass a law defining the word ‘milk’ to mean ‘a nocturnal flying mammal that eats insects and employs echolocation.’”

https://www.texastribune.org/2012/08/09/tabc-changes-what-it-means-to-be-a-beer/

So I guess it's getting better. Until we get the rest resolved, I'm booking tickets to Minneapolis. Wish I was there with you guys in Baltimore. Enjoy!
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: denny on June 09, 2016, 12:48:58 PM
I might have to go there.

It would be great to see you!  Although NHC is ostensibly about beer, for me it's really, about seeing friends.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on June 09, 2016, 04:46:52 PM
I might have to go there.

It would be great to see you!  Although NHC is ostensibly about beer, for me it's really, about seeing friends.
Would be great to meet you again.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: ethinson on June 09, 2016, 06:08:36 PM
Dang it... I was hoping for Austin Texas.  Oh well.  Should still be fun.  I'm not making it to Baltimore this year, but I'll hope to go next year (and hope they change the name back to NHC.....)

Austin has been discussed a few times, but my take is that until several things get worked out woth laws it won't happen.  I think there were also facilities issues.

Bummer, wasn't aware of that, was just wishful thinking anyway, not any serious research into a location.  Minneapolis should still be fun though!
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: a10t2 on June 09, 2016, 09:14:59 PM
That's driving distance to the folks, which makes it a no-brainer for me.

What's that? I'll go through Eau Claire?! 8)
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 09, 2016, 10:50:22 PM
That's driving distance to the folks, which makes it a no-brainer for me.

What's that? I'll go through Eau Claire?! 8)
We will too.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on June 09, 2016, 11:51:02 PM
That's driving distance to the folks, which makes it a no-brainer for me.

What's that? I'll go through Eau Claire?! 8)
We will too.
He he. I would love it.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: riceral on June 12, 2016, 09:20:13 AM
I might have to go there.

It would be great to see you!  Although NHC is ostensibly about beer, for me it's really, about seeing friends.

Totally agree. And, I would add, making new friends.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: reverseapachemaster on June 12, 2016, 03:32:00 PM
Yeah, I think we still have a few legal issues to work out in TX, though I'm not that up on pouring laws at festivals, etc.

There's a number of problems here just with homebrew. The TABC requires bills of lading on all homebrew leaving homes for pouring at events and any organized tasting or event requires that everybody in attendance be members of a club. TABC also has problems with commercial beer and homebrew being served at the same time or as part of the same event.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: blair.streit on June 12, 2016, 03:35:29 PM
Yeah, I think we still have a few legal issues to work out in TX, though I'm not that up on pouring laws at festivals, etc.

There's a number of problems here just with homebrew. The TABC requires bills of lading on all homebrew leaving homes for pouring at events and any organized tasting or event requires that everybody in attendance be members of a club. TABC also has problems with commercial beer and homebrew being served at the same time or as part of the same event.
Anyone aware of a lobbying effort to remedy this? I live in Austin and would be happy to help out.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: reverseapachemaster on June 12, 2016, 06:36:14 PM
Maybe the AHA? I am not aware of any major lobbying efforts on that point. The bill of lading isn't that big of a deal (it's just filling out a form) and having people sign up to be a member of a club at the front door of an event isn't that big of a deal (also just filling out a form) but prohibitive for a large event like NHC.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: guido on June 12, 2016, 08:32:10 PM
Is it safe to assume that the 2017 NHC will be held at the convention center.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 13, 2016, 01:17:59 AM
Is it safe to assume that the 2017 NHC will be held at the convention center.
It is safe to say it won't be at the hotel in Bloomfield.  :D
Yeah, I don't know with certainty, but think downtown convention center with 3000+ Capacity, and surrounding hotels.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: toby on June 13, 2016, 03:35:58 PM
After confirming that Southwest flies there, I am pretty likely to attend next year.  Surly needs to brew the souvenir beer and name it "You Can't Be Serious".
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: denny on June 13, 2016, 04:00:25 PM
Maybe the AHA? I am not aware of any major lobbying efforts on that point. The bill of lading isn't that big of a deal (it's just filling out a form) and having people sign up to be a member of a club at the front door of an event isn't that big of a deal (also just filling out a form) but prohibitive for a large event like NHC.

The AHA will help state organizations but not lead the charge.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: PrettyBeard on June 13, 2016, 09:19:22 PM
Maybe the AHA? I am not aware of any major lobbying efforts on that point. The bill of lading isn't that big of a deal (it's just filling out a form) and having people sign up to be a member of a club at the front door of an event isn't that big of a deal (also just filling out a form) but prohibitive for a large event like NHC.

Isn't the AHA already a club?
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: blair.streit on June 13, 2016, 09:51:16 PM
Maybe the AHA? I am not aware of any major lobbying efforts on that point. The bill of lading isn't that big of a deal (it's just filling out a form) and having people sign up to be a member of a club at the front door of an event isn't that big of a deal (also just filling out a form) but prohibitive for a large event like NHC.

The AHA will help state organizations but not lead the charge.
Yeah, it looks like this is the playbook.

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrewing-rights/statutes/

I'll search the database mentioned there and see if there's anything already going on some of these fronts. I should probably also check in with the Zealots here to see if anyone is trying to take care of any obstacles to hosting NHC here.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: hopfenundmalz on June 14, 2016, 02:28:25 AM
Maybe the AHA? I am not aware of any major lobbying efforts on that point. The bill of lading isn't that big of a deal (it's just filling out a form) and having people sign up to be a member of a club at the front door of an event isn't that big of a deal (also just filling out a form) but prohibitive for a large event like NHC.

The AHA will help state organizations but not lead the charge.
Yeah, it looks like this is the playbook.

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrewing-rights/statutes/

I'll search the database mentioned there and see if there's anything already going on some of these fronts. I should probably also check in with the Zealots here to see if anyone is trying to take care of any obstacles to hosting NHC here.
I love Traveling to Austin! Hope the hotel prices are not prohibitive.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: denny on June 14, 2016, 03:42:26 PM
Maybe the AHA? I am not aware of any major lobbying efforts on that point. The bill of lading isn't that big of a deal (it's just filling out a form) and having people sign up to be a member of a club at the front door of an event isn't that big of a deal (also just filling out a form) but prohibitive for a large event like NHC.

Isn't the AHA already a club?

Nope
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: denny on June 14, 2016, 03:43:26 PM
Maybe the AHA? I am not aware of any major lobbying efforts on that point. The bill of lading isn't that big of a deal (it's just filling out a form) and having people sign up to be a member of a club at the front door of an event isn't that big of a deal (also just filling out a form) but prohibitive for a large event like NHC.

The AHA will help state organizations but not lead the charge.
Yeah, it looks like this is the playbook.

https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrewing-rights/statutes/

I'll search the database mentioned there and see if there's anything already going on some of these fronts. I should probably also check in with the Zealots here to see if anyone is trying to take care of any obstacles to hosting NHC here.

Having worked with the AHA to get the laws here in OR changed, I'm pretty well versed in how it works.    Good luck on your efforts!
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: toby on June 15, 2016, 02:42:53 PM
I'll search the database mentioned there and see if there's anything already going on some of these fronts. I should probably also check in with the Zealots here to see if anyone is trying to take care of any obstacles to hosting NHC here.

Have you met the Zealots?  lol  That being said, I'd love to see the NHC in Austin.  Generally the legality part that excludes or complicates locations is the mix of commercial and homebrewed beer served onsite (honestly the commercial/homebrew segregation in San Diego was annoying).  I think one significant hurdle with TABC is that they require everyone serving beer to be certified.
Title: Re: 2017 NHC Date and Location.
Post by: dbeechum on June 15, 2016, 08:33:47 PM
Check with Debbie Cerda - she was working the issues in the past.