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Title: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on July 12, 2010, 05:39:48 AM
I smoked three bags of malt yesterday and made my entire neighborhood smell great.  The box has enough trays to hold about 50 pounds of malt when full.  The fire is far enough away that the smoke is pretty cool when it gets to the box.
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab318/jeffyspictures/Smoking%20malt%20for%20Swamphead/smokingbox.jpg)
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab318/jeffyspictures/Smoking%20malt%20for%20Swamphead/morealdersmoke.jpg)
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab318/jeffyspictures/Smoking%20malt%20for%20Swamphead/smokingwithalder.jpg)
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: akr71 on July 12, 2010, 05:56:47 AM
Sweet!  Love the setup.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: hopfenundmalz on July 12, 2010, 07:17:31 AM
I smoked 4 lbs on Friday.

You did three bags!   :o

You like smoked beer, I think.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: beerocd on July 12, 2010, 07:23:37 AM
What kind of wood?
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: denny on July 12, 2010, 08:15:01 AM
I tried smoking malt, but it kept falling out of the rolling papers...;)
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on July 12, 2010, 08:22:10 AM
Alder wood.  It's for a friend of mine at a commercial brewery.  I get to help brew seven barrels of smoked beer next weekend.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: dak0415 on July 12, 2010, 08:27:16 AM
I tried smoking malt, but it kept falling out of the rolling papers...;)
I had the same problem. Now Irish Moss......
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: majorvices on July 12, 2010, 09:21:02 AM
NIIICE set up. So is that what you also use to cold smoke meats and such? What a clever and simple idea!
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: babalu87 on July 12, 2010, 09:49:43 AM
NIIICE set up. So is that what you also use to cold smoke meats and such? What a clever and simple idea!

I thought the same thing when looking at it.

Do this I must.

Could pack that bugger full of Bluefish filets and smoke em up.

Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: bonjour on July 12, 2010, 09:52:26 AM
Nice setup,  any objections to moving to equipment?  This kinda fits both places.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on July 12, 2010, 10:11:55 AM
Yeah I guess it does fit in "equipment" better.
I've smoked cheese in it without melting.  Temperature inside on Sunday was about 95, which was just a tad warmer than ambient.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: beerocd on July 12, 2010, 10:20:20 AM
So, a hole saw to the weber? Do you think it would work just thru the vent already there? Maybe some magnets and a gasket or something along those lines?
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: bonjour on July 12, 2010, 10:37:10 AM
That would give you warm smoke,  this is a cold smoker, great for fish
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: babalu87 on July 12, 2010, 10:47:34 AM
That would give you warm smoke,  this is a cold smoker, great for fish


I believe he is speaking of using the aluminum vent for the smoke as opposed to drilling a hole in a perfectly good weber top.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on July 12, 2010, 11:04:26 AM
So, a hole saw to the weber? Do you think it would work just thru the vent already there? Maybe some magnets and a gasket or something along those lines?
This Weber top with the hole in it was from an old rusted out grill.  The hole was where the vent was originally.  I replaced the bottom with an almost new one on Craig's List for $35, which came with a new lid.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: bonjour on July 12, 2010, 11:35:45 AM
That would give you warm smoke,  this is a cold smoker, great for fish


I believe he is speaking of using the aluminum vent for the smoke as opposed to drilling a hole in a perfectly good weber top.
ok,   I'm bad
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: bonjour on July 12, 2010, 11:37:07 AM
could you add a couple of detail photos of the connections,  and of your shelves

thanks
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on July 12, 2010, 12:21:50 PM
could you add a couple of detail photos of the connections,  and of your shelves

thanks
I'll try to do that tomorrow.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on July 13, 2010, 05:07:28 AM
The box was made by a friend of mine several years ago.  It came with three shelves and was seriously water damaged, so I added a new front and back, sealed it up and made extra shelves.  He must have had a router to make those nice cuts.  My previous box supported the shelves with pieces of quarter-round.
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab318/jeffyspictures/111-1112_IMG.jpg)
I can't remember how I cut the hole in the lid because its been at least ten years ago, but the adapter came from the heating and air conditioning section of home depot.
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab318/jeffyspictures/111-1110_IMG.jpg)
Here's the underside of the weber lid
(http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/ab318/jeffyspictures/111-1111_IMG.jpg)

Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: babalu87 on July 13, 2010, 05:18:08 AM
Do you need to shuffle the racks around for more even smoking?

Thanks for the pics
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on July 13, 2010, 05:39:53 AM
Do you need to shuffle the racks around for more even smoking?

Thanks for the pics
No, I usually let it smoke, untouched, for an hour and a half or until I run out of wood chips.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: richardt on July 13, 2010, 06:33:26 AM
Do you wet the grains a bit to help with absorption of the smoke character?
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: bluesman on July 13, 2010, 06:38:34 AM
Pretty clever set-up there.  I might give this a try someday. I want to try cold smoking some fish and cheese some day.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on July 13, 2010, 07:38:48 AM
Do you wet the grains a bit to help with absorption of the smoke character?
I usually don't, but I spritzed all the trays with distilled water this time.  I think it will help.
I'm always worried that there won't be enough smoke, but in the end I have to blend the beer back with non-smoked beer to get a balanced result.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: richardt on July 13, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
It looks like it could almost double as a bee hive (and you got the built in smoker to drive them off when it comes time to collect).
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: mikeypedersen on July 13, 2010, 09:25:14 AM
What type of material makes up the bottom of each tray?

I was looking at stainless stell mesh but it is pricey!
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on July 13, 2010, 10:02:11 AM
What type of material makes up the bottom of each tray?

I was looking at stainless stell mesh but it is pricey!
It's simply aluminum window screening from home depot, cut with scissors stapled to the wooden frames.
I try to fill each tray evenly with malt so that the smoke has to pass through each layer to escape through the top of the box.  'Works pretty well.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: sharpstick on December 12, 2013, 04:45:54 AM
 What's burning in the grill? Charcoal bed with smoker box or . . . ?
 I've seen some setups that were as simple as a cheap soldering iron stuck into a tin can full of chips.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on December 12, 2013, 05:31:20 AM
What's burning in the grill? Charcoal bed with smoker box or . . . ?
 I've seen some setups that were as simple as a cheap soldering iron stuck into a tin can full of chips.

I use charcoal.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: kylekohlmorgen on December 12, 2013, 07:38:25 AM
Yes but what did you DO with the 3 bags of smoked malt? Share amongst the club? Or do you just REALLY like Rauchbier?
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: reverseapachemaster on December 12, 2013, 08:01:50 AM
That's a nice set up. If I had that kind of smoking equipment I'd make a lot more smoked beer too.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: blatz on December 12, 2013, 08:20:53 AM
Yes but what did you DO with the 3 bags of smoked malt? Share amongst the club? Or do you just REALLY like Rauchbier?

if you look down the thread he says he does it for a friend who owns a commercial brewery.

I have a bottle of that beer in my fridge (assuming Jeff still does it for him) and I can't wait to have it - one of my favorite smoked beers, and favorite beers of theirs.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: HoosierBrew on December 12, 2013, 08:27:45 AM
Really nice smoker box.  Nice setup.  The beer sounds good.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 12, 2013, 10:05:46 AM
Yes but what did you DO with the 3 bags of smoked malt? Share amongst the club? Or do you just REALLY like Rauchbier?

if you look down the thread he says he does it for a friend who owns a commercial brewery.

I have a bottle of that beer in my fridge (assuming Jeff still does it for him) and I can't wait to have it - one of my favorite smoked beers, and favorite beers of theirs.

I think Mr. Gladish is friends with more than one commercial brewer.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: jeffy on December 12, 2013, 11:20:34 AM
Yes but what did you DO with the 3 bags of smoked malt? Share amongst the club? Or do you just REALLY like Rauchbier?

if you look down the thread he says he does it for a friend who owns a commercial brewery.

I have a bottle of that beer in my fridge (assuming Jeff still does it for him) and I can't wait to have it - one of my favorite smoked beers, and favorite beers of theirs.

I think Mr. Gladish is friends with more than one commercial brewer.

I've been the organizer for a statewide pro beer competition for about 13 years, so I know a few.
I've smoked malt for Swamphead in Gainesville several times, Tampa Bay Brewing Co. and Southern Brewing.
If I had any time I'd smoke enough to sell it at homebrew shops.  Custom-smoked malt seems like a good idea to me.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: blatz on December 12, 2013, 11:22:06 AM
Yes but what did you DO with the 3 bags of smoked malt? Share amongst the club? Or do you just REALLY like Rauchbier?

if you look down the thread he says he does it for a friend who owns a commercial brewery.

I have a bottle of that beer in my fridge (assuming Jeff still does it for him) and I can't wait to have it - one of my favorite smoked beers, and favorite beers of theirs.

I think Mr. Gladish is friends with more than one commercial brewer.

I've been the organizer for a statewide pro beer competition for about 13 years, so I know a few.
I've smoked malt for Swamphead in Gainesville several times, Tampa Bay Brewing Co. and Southern Brewing.
If I had any time I'd smoke enough to sell it at homebrew shops.  Custom-smoked malt seems like a good idea to me.

i know he does - I was referring to Craig's Swamphead Smoked Porter which I bought a bomber of a few weekends ago.  looking forward to cracking it soon!
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: tschmidlin on December 12, 2013, 12:18:07 PM
Custom-smoked malt seems like a good idea to me.
It's really easy to do if you have a decent setup (like Jeff does).  Mine is much smaller, I can only do 2-3 lbs at a time.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 12, 2013, 12:23:52 PM
Custom-smoked malt seems like a good idea to me.
It's really easy to do if you have a decent setup (like Jeff does).  Mine is much smaller, I can only do 2-3 lbs at a time.
That would be a great way to add to the smoked malt palette that is out there now. So many woods to try.

I can do about 4 lbs at a time.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: tschmidlin on December 12, 2013, 12:28:50 PM
Custom-smoked malt seems like a good idea to me.
It's really easy to do if you have a decent setup (like Jeff does).  Mine is much smaller, I can only do 2-3 lbs at a time.
That would be a great way to add to the smoked malt palette that is out there now. So many woods to try.

I can do about 4 lbs at a time.

I did some with cherry wood that turned out nice, much smoother than the Briess cherry smoked malt which I find very harsh.  I've done some apple wood smoked too, I haven't brewed with it yet.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: denny on December 12, 2013, 12:37:45 PM
If I had any time I'd smoke enough to sell it at homebrew shops.  Custom-smoked malt seems like a good idea to me.

It may be a better idea than a reality.  I had a friend that tried it but gave up after about a year.  It was more hassle than the money he made.  Of course, I have no idea how much of that was due to his marketing skills or lack thereof.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: 58limited on October 12, 2014, 11:34:53 AM
Intriguing. I think I'll try my hand at smoked malt myself. Another idea: I'm a mead maker who likes metheglins, I might try an oak-smoked peppercorn mead to honor the Central Texas style of BBQ which uses only salt, pepper and oak smoke on the meat.
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: reverseapachemaster on October 13, 2014, 07:27:34 AM
Intriguing. I think I'll try my hand at smoked malt myself. Another idea: I'm a mead maker who likes metheglins, I might try an oak-smoked peppercorn mead to honor the Central Texas style of BBQ which uses only salt, pepper and oak smoke on the meat.

No interest in a North Texas style by taking that same meat and dumping a lot of sauce on it?
Title: Re: Home-Smoked Malt
Post by: 58limited on October 25, 2014, 07:25:37 AM
Nah, I only use sauce if the meat isn't that good by itself.