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Title: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: denny on November 13, 2009, 11:48:26 am
Being a geek for pure science, I find this fascinating...

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/11/13/water.moon.nasa/index.html
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: theDarkSide on November 13, 2009, 12:17:18 pm
Yeah but is it ok to brew with?  :D
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: denny on November 13, 2009, 12:21:31 pm
As the say, "If it tastes OK....."
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: dbeechum on November 13, 2009, 12:24:08 pm
I'm guessing it might be a bit cheesy
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: loopy on November 13, 2009, 12:26:02 pm
cool stuff, I saw the vapor story back when they "rodded" it, had no idea it would result in significant discovery.  couple this with the tether experiment from the shuttle TSS-1R mission and you have the means for water and electricity on the moon without taking either with you.  

with water and electricity, many possibilities begin to arise for longer term base-stations.  
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: theDarkSide on November 13, 2009, 12:29:03 pm
I'm just glad they didn't crack the moon in half by crashing crap into it.
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: brewboy on November 13, 2009, 12:32:07 pm
I'm just glad they didn't crack the moon in half by crashing crap into it.

Yeah and I hope they didn't hurt any Moonies. 
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: denny on November 13, 2009, 12:46:09 pm
with water and electricity, many possibilities begin to arise for longer term base-stations.  

And housing subdivisions!  ;)
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: beerocd on November 13, 2009, 01:09:28 pm
Next time they're up there I want to see fireworks shot off from the surface as proof they're there.

-OCD
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: tesla_hv on November 13, 2009, 01:16:08 pm
As a child in the '60s, I was fascinated by the space program.  I remember watching the Mercury and Gemini launches on our little black and white TV.  I would like to see us return to the moon in my lifetime.
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: denny on November 13, 2009, 01:30:49 pm
Right on, Monty!
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: yugamrap on November 13, 2009, 01:40:49 pm
I grew up watching the Apollo missions and have always had a fascination with space exploration.  There is a NASA research facility here in the Cleveland area where they developed the heat-resistant tiles for the space shuttles.  And, a guy I grew up with http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/good-mt.html ended up becoming an astronaut and did a space walk to repair the Hubbel Space Telescope on a recent shuttle mission.  And I though making my own beer was cool... :-[ ::)   
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: dimik on November 13, 2009, 01:47:01 pm
Making your own beer on the moon from moon water would be even cooler.
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: a10t2 on November 13, 2009, 01:55:36 pm
Making your own beer on the moon from moon water would be even cooler.

And I was feeling the squeeze once Wal-Mart marked distilled up to 83 cents...
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: BrewingRover on November 13, 2009, 01:55:45 pm
Making your own beer on the moon from moon water would be even cooler.
You would only be able to make low gravity beers, though.



Which one of those smiley thingees means groan. ::)
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: theDarkSide on November 13, 2009, 02:00:48 pm
Making your own beer on the moon from moon water would be even cooler.

But you would have to boil with the lid on to keep it from floating away...and we know what that means.  :'(
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: brewboy on November 13, 2009, 02:05:10 pm
You'd have to use an electric kettle, because there's not enough air to support a flame. I'm ready.  ;)
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: dbeechum on November 13, 2009, 02:08:11 pm
Wonder what the boiling point is on the moon and how it would affect isomerization.
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: dimik on November 13, 2009, 02:10:12 pm
You'd need less energy to brew though, and I don't think low g would affect isomerization.
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: dbeechum on November 13, 2009, 02:20:16 pm
Lower atomospheric pressure certainly would.

Plus presuming that you're boiling inside a habitable pressurized environment, I wonder how many atmo's you'd be set to.
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: a10t2 on November 13, 2009, 02:20:30 pm
Wonder what the boiling point is on the moon and how it would affect isomerization.

If you were in sunlight it would boil spontaneously. Set that ProMash boiloff rate to 100%.  :o

They keep the shuttle/ISS at sea level AFAIK.
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: beerocd on November 13, 2009, 03:59:10 pm
I would like to see us return to the moon in my lifetime.

I missed the "first time", and have wondered all these years why we haven't done it since.
I'm not a big conspiracy theorist - no foil on the walls, no foil hat. :) 
Just seems wrong we haven't returned after all these years.

-OCD
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: tesla_hv on November 13, 2009, 05:08:59 pm
Hey Denny,
I was considering posting a link to an article in Sky and Telescope magazine giving the facts behind the upcoming Dec 21 2012 hoopla.  This may be on the fringe of what is appropriate on this site so I figured that I would check with you or any one of the mods first.  PM me for a link if you are interested.   I will not post it until I get a green light.
Thanks,
Monty
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: dbeechum on November 13, 2009, 05:18:23 pm
I'm fine with it as long it doesn't turn political or religious!
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: tesla_hv on November 13, 2009, 05:26:16 pm
I'm fine with it as long it doesn't turn political or religious!

It shouldn't so I'll post it in a new thread.  If for some reason it turns either way, feel free to lock or delete it.
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: beerocd on November 13, 2009, 05:29:09 pm
I'm fine with it as long it doesn't turn political or religious!

So raunchy is ok?  :o

I kid...I kid...

-OCD
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: tesla_hv on November 13, 2009, 05:31:09 pm
It's been posted now.  Not raunchy, perhaps a bit dry in a scientific way but I found it informative.
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: tubercle on November 13, 2009, 05:48:40 pm
 If my grandpa was still alive he'd say "Big deal, so they found water in the desert in Arizona because that's where they really are"!

 When I was a kid he would blast me for watching Star Trek because it was "poisoning" my mind.

 Of course he was born in 1893...
Title: Re: NASA finds 'significant' water on moon
Post by: SwashBuckling Drunk on November 14, 2009, 09:38:22 am
I just noticed the Google search page is acknowledging the discovery of water on the moon today