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Title: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: trapae on April 07, 2017, 04:27:28 AM
Anyone have an opinion? 
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: dmtaylor on April 07, 2017, 10:34:47 AM
Yes.  Great Western for the win.  Even though Briess is local to me, I have not been impressed by their malts compared to GW.  I need to taste more Rahr to know for sure but I think it's in between.
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: oginme on April 07, 2017, 11:23:35 AM
I don't have a local supply of the GW, but much prefer Rahr over the Briess for base malt.
Title: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: tommymorris on April 07, 2017, 12:12:29 PM
Has Brülosophy.com ever done anything with this? This question comes up several times a year.

I use Briess and Rahr interchangeably. I have made 100% 2-row pale beers with both and found them both to be good. No side by side comparisons though.

PS. I have never used GW.
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: coolman26 on April 07, 2017, 02:06:33 PM
I will not use Briess. I feel it is so far behind the other 2, that it isn't comparable. I've used nearly a thousand pounds of Rahr. I don't have anyone local selling GW. I just bought 2 sacks of GW and I'll figure out what I like best. I'm going to make some light color beers w low I IBU to try. That would be a nice test to see what people like side by side.


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Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: coolman26 on April 07, 2017, 02:15:38 PM
I will also add that, in my experience, Rahr tends to drop the ph a few points. I think Martin or Kai discussed it years back. I've always inputted it in Bru'n water at 5L. That has been pretty accurate IMO.


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Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: hopfenundmalz on April 07, 2017, 02:27:12 PM
I have never used GW. I like Rahr over Briess. My LHBS started carrying Malteurope 2-row, and that is pretty good and the price is low, so that is what I use for domestic 2-row base malt.

Briess has started to source Malt from one of the western states in the last few years, has that changed the product?
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: reverseapachemaster on April 07, 2017, 03:14:58 PM
Basically anything but Briess.
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: stpug on April 07, 2017, 03:36:34 PM
GW/Briess/Rahr, they're all good malts in my book and each with a forte.  GW is the most husky tasting (not a bad thing, just a thing); Briess is the most flavorless (again, a great choice when you want the malt to sit quietly in the back of the room); Rahr is neither husky, nor flavorless, but maybe sweet and plain.  Malteurop is pretty variable in terms of quality - I've had good quality bags and terrible quality bags (small kernels, super-husky).  Just my opinion of course.
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: bayareabrewer on April 07, 2017, 03:57:50 PM
I assume you're asking about their pale malt, I've used all three, admittedly not a ton of rahr though. The kernel size and smell test makes GW stand out against briess. GW has larger kernels and is more aromatic. Hand in hand its tough for me to tell the Rahr and GW apart.

Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: HoosierBrew on April 07, 2017, 04:14:32 PM
I don't have a local supply of the GW, but much prefer Rahr over the Briess for base malt.



Same here. We don't get GW around here, but I've used plenty of Briess 2 row and Rahr 2 row, and Rahr is vastly better IMO. Rahr is much more flavorful where Briess, while not objectionable in any way, is bland by comparison. Having said that, I use Briess on occasion in American styles.
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: troybinso on April 07, 2017, 04:56:59 PM
I like GW, but as an alternative, look into local, small batch maltsters. I live in a grain growing area and there are craft maltsters popping up everywhere. Depending on where you live, this might be an option.
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: majorvices on April 07, 2017, 05:25:52 PM
I have never used GW. I like Rahr over Briess. My LHBS started carrying Malteurope 2-row, and that is pretty good and the price is low, so that is what I use for domestic 2-row base malt.

Briess has started to source Malt from one of the western states in the last few years, has that changed the product?

Haven't tried the two row but have done taste test beween Canadian, Best and Maltoeurope pils malt and the German and Canadian were preferred over the Maltoeurope 100% by everyone who tasted it.
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: denny on April 07, 2017, 06:17:49 PM
Has Brülosophy.com ever done anything with this? This question comes up several times a year.

I use Briess and Rahr interchangeably. I have made 100% 2-row pale beers with both and found them both to be good. No side by side comparisons though.

PS. I have never used GW.

It wouldn't matter of they did because it's so subjective.
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: denny on April 07, 2017, 06:18:40 PM
I have a slight pref for Rahr over GW, but both are very good.  Briess is a distant 3rd.
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: coolman26 on April 07, 2017, 07:12:41 PM
Has Brülosophy.com ever done anything with this? This question comes up several times a year.

I use Briess and Rahr interchangeably. I have made 100% 2-row pale beers with both and found them both to be good. No side by side comparisons though.

PS. I have never used GW.

It wouldn't matter of they did because it's so subjective.
Lol good one.


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Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: chumley on April 08, 2017, 02:41:23 PM
I have been using Briess for the past couple of years, as that is what the LHBS stocks.  While I had issues with Briess in the past (like, 14-15 years ago), I have had no problems with it now converting and/or leaving a nice malt flavor in the IPAs I brew, which is the only style I use it for as a base malt.  I go through a lot more Continental pilsner malt than American pale.

I do miss the MaltEurop that the previous now defunct LHBS kept in stock. I thought it was nearly equal to Golden Promise.

My issues long ago with Briess were more due to the drought that we were experiencing here in the malt growing heartland.  The kernels were real small, and I got horrible efficiency.  At that time I switch to British Columbia malt (Gambrinus) which did not seem so affected by the drought.
Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: coolman26 on April 08, 2017, 04:25:52 PM
Maybe it was due to the drought, I can see that. I'm going through St.Louis soon. When I do I'm going to pick up some sacks of Cargill. I need to do more research on where these malts come from geographically. I'd love to find/use all domestic malt, especially a pils malt.


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Title: Re: Great Western vs Briess vs Rahr
Post by: skyler on April 08, 2017, 11:46:48 PM
I love GW Pale Ale malt (the 3L). There are few applications where I prefer I think they recently changed the name to "Pacific Northwest Pale Ale Malt" from just "Northwest Pale Ale Malt." I am also fond of Gambrinus malts, but the price is a bit higher for me than it is to buy GW. Few places nearby sell Rahr, so I haven't used it much.