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Title: First Wort Hopping
Post by: David on July 20, 2017, 07:31:28 PM
When exactly, would one add, "First Wort Hopping" if one were employing the BIAB method?

Thanks.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: EnkAMania on July 20, 2017, 07:37:19 PM
When you turn on the flame to boil
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: David on July 20, 2017, 07:47:27 PM
All right then, will do. 

Thank you...I'm new to home brewing, just in case it isn't readily apparent.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on July 20, 2017, 08:40:36 PM
I add them when collecting my first runnings.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: brewinhard on July 20, 2017, 08:45:33 PM
I add them when collecting my first runnings.

As do I, but the OP is BIAB so his best bet is most likely to add them immediately after pulling the bag and right before he starts the flame on the boil kettle.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on July 20, 2017, 08:47:42 PM
I add them when collecting my first runnings.

As do I, but the OP is BIAB so his best bet is most likely to add them immediately after pulling the bag and right before he starts the flame on the boil kettle.

My bad. I don't read good
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: brewinhard on July 20, 2017, 08:51:23 PM
I add them when collecting my first runnings.

As do I, but the OP is BIAB so his best bet is most likely to add them immediately after pulling the bag and right before he starts the flame on the boil kettle.

My bad. I don't read good

Me no read good either   :D
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: stpug on July 20, 2017, 09:26:04 PM
In BIAB, I always aim to get some soak time for FWH prior to ramping up to the boil since that better approximates the "traditional" method of FWHing.  I'll put the hops in alongside the grain bag and submerged. I generally do this as the mashout begins.  This gives the mashout time plus ramp-to-boil time for the FWHs.  That's how my drummer beats ;)
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: brewinhard on July 20, 2017, 10:52:06 PM
In BIAB, I always aim to get some soak time for FWH prior to ramping up to the boil since that better approximates the "traditional" method of FWHing.  I'll put the hops in alongside the grain bag and submerged. I generally do this as the mashout begins.  This gives the mashout time plus ramp-to-boil time for the FWHs.  That's how my drummer beats ;)

Wise words from good experience.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: oginme on July 20, 2017, 11:59:43 PM
I do first wort hopping quite often when I do BIAB (full volume). I have always added the hops right after pulling the bag.  Heat on the stove goes on and the hops go in.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: MerlinWerks on July 27, 2017, 01:53:29 PM
For FWH I slip the hops in as soon as I raise the basket high enough to get clearance, then let them steep for about 30 minutes before cranking up the power to start the boil...
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: dmtaylor on July 27, 2017, 03:01:23 PM
FWH is no more special than boil hops.  Add them anytime before reaching a boil, or even a minute or two after.  You shouldn't be able to taste any difference.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: denny on July 27, 2017, 04:35:15 PM
FWH is no more special than boil hops.  Add them anytime before reaching a boil, or even a minute or two after.  You shouldn't be able to taste any difference.

Unless you can....
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: The Beerery on July 27, 2017, 04:44:34 PM
FWH is no more special than boil hops.  Add them anytime before reaching a boil, or even a minute or two after.  You shouldn't be able to taste any difference.

Unless you can....

I can.  ;)
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: denny on July 27, 2017, 05:00:09 PM
FWH is no more special than boil hops.  Add them anytime before reaching a boil, or even a minute or two after.  You shouldn't be able to taste any difference.

Unless you can....

I can.  ;)

Me, too.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: Steve Ruch on July 27, 2017, 05:04:28 PM
FWH is no more special than boil hops.  Add them anytime before reaching a boil, or even a minute or two after.  You shouldn't be able to taste any difference.

Unless you can....

I can.  ;)

Me, too.

Me, three.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: natebrews on July 27, 2017, 06:29:27 PM
What do you guys perceive as the difference when it is FWH vs boil hopped?  I've done lots of both but never side by side.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: denny on July 27, 2017, 07:22:51 PM
What do you guys perceive as the difference when it is FWH vs boil hopped?  I've done lots of both but never side by side.

FWH gives me smoother bitterness and a bit more hop flavor.
Title: Re: First Wort Hopping
Post by: natebrews on July 27, 2017, 07:36:53 PM
Do you find that this is hop variety dependent?  I'm mainly curious about it if someone was using some really punchy hops (CTZ maybe) but wanted the bittering intensity/harshness to be lower while maintaining the flavor aspects of that hop.