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Title: Since we're talking books....
Post by: weazletoe on August 03, 2010, 04:01:36 AM
I just have to say I've really been into James Patterson, lately. The Alex Cross series, namely. What a great series! Been having a lot of time to read lately, in airports, and on planes. Right now I am in the middle of Four Blind Mice. I think the best so far though, is Double Cross.
  I should also mention Nelson DeMille. Anything of his with John Corey is great! The Lion's Game was one of the best books I've read yet (right up there with any of them in The Lonesome Dove series) The Lion just came out, and I can't wait to read it.
 
   Now, back to your regularly scheduled beer forum.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: tygo on August 03, 2010, 11:56:59 AM

  I should also mention Nelson DeMille. Anything of his with John Corey is great! The Lion's Game was one of the best books I've read yet (right up there with any of them in The Lonesome Dove series) The Lion just came out, and I can't wait to read it.
 

Yeah, those are entertaining.  Didn't realize there was a new one out.  I'll be getting that soon!
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: weazletoe on August 03, 2010, 01:56:46 PM
Yeah, those are entertaining.  Didn't realize there was a new one out.  I'll be getting that soon!

Be sure you've read "The Lion's Game", before tyou read "The Lion".
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: tygo on August 03, 2010, 03:18:21 PM
I've read all of the John Corey books so far.
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Post by: nicneufeld on August 03, 2010, 05:19:24 PM
My wife has been reading James Patterson lately, she describes them as roughly equivalent to a CSI type TV show or crime drama movie.

I however am still stuck on the more obscure Wodehouse stuff.  Just finished up "Uncle Fred in Springtime" and "A Few Quick Ones" nearly done.
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Post by: bartzbrau on August 03, 2010, 07:23:04 PM
Wodehouse's Wooster & Jeeves stories are hilarious.  You can get some of them thru PBS, as the BBC did an adaptation back in the 80's.  Wooster is played by the guy who now stars as Dr. House.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: nicneufeld on August 03, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
Fry and Laurie (as Jeeves, and B. Wooster, respectively) did do the best screen adaptations, definitely.  I think those were done not for the BBC but for some other network, whose name escapes me...ah well.  Masterful though...the empty-headed but likable twit was played perfectly by Hugh Laurie, and in general the whole thing was superbly pieced together, shot, and scored.  Got the whole set on DVD.  A lot of excellent supporting actors/characters, as well.

The only disadvantage to the video series is that the internal monologue of Bertie's narration must be abandoned, which leaves out a not insubstantial source of humor. 
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: weazletoe on August 04, 2010, 02:11:23 AM
Wodehouse's Wooster & Jeeves stories are hilarious. 

Did someone say hilarious? I love hilarious! Just might have to check this out.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: denny on August 04, 2010, 03:57:29 PM
It's hard to beat Wodehouse for dry British humor with a slapstick side to it.  I own the DVD set of Wooster and Jeeves (Stephen Fry as Jeeves is too much!) and find myself watching it over and over again.
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Post by: nicneufeld on August 04, 2010, 04:22:01 PM
Yeah, its not really "hilarious" at least in the typical American sense.  But quite amusing...he wrote 90 books, so as one might expect there are occasional plot recyclings, but I rather enjoy the stereotypes that arise.  The Aunts, of course, representing the powerful ruling elite, both in the Jeeves line and in the Blandings castle series, to which I've more recently become addicted.  The Psmith series is one of my favorites...Psmith himself is like an early prototype fusing both Jeeves and Bertie, a bit...the calm, well-spoken intellect of Jeeves with the social butterfly, suave boulevardier aspects of Bertie.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: hoptomation on August 04, 2010, 05:47:09 PM
Last year I was looking for something a little different so I tried Cormac McCarthy's Border Trilogy and Blood Meridian.  All four of them get a little slow at times but that is fitting for their western style.  In the end I found them all very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: dbeechum on August 04, 2010, 05:58:25 PM
I read "The Road" last year and man did I need to read something lightweight, fluffy and fun after that.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: denny on August 04, 2010, 06:16:40 PM
You want lightweight, fluffy and fun summer reading?  Try some of Kinky Freidman's detective books!
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: ryan6458 on August 04, 2010, 06:40:03 PM
After reading Ted Bell I just couldn't get into Patterson for some reason. I wonder if that works the other way around. If you're ever in Boise, I have the first three books from the Hawke series you can borrow. You can also drink some beer if you want. :)
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: hoptomation on August 04, 2010, 06:41:49 PM
I read "The Road" last year and man did I need to read something lightweight, fluffy and fun after that.

"The Road" is a good read, but definitely does not give you warm fuzzies.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: bartzbrau on August 04, 2010, 06:55:34 PM
Lightweight, for beach or travel, is Clive Cussler.

I saw the Wooster & Jeeves series before picking up the books.  The books were even funnier, thanks to all that "internal dialogue".
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Post by: nicneufeld on August 04, 2010, 07:24:02 PM
One area where the Granada TV series ups the books, though, is the songs.  Hugh Laurie being actually not a bad singer and pianist (his songs on his sketch comedy show in the 80s were quite funny)...one funny one was "Nagasaki", particularly when he went somberly out of time/swing for the "Back in Nagasaki where the fellas chew tobaccy and the women wicky wacky, woo" part.  And "47 Ginger-Headed Sailors" has been stuck in my head for half a decade now.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on August 04, 2010, 07:34:07 PM
Thinking about starting to read the Lonesome Dove series. I've got a lot of time to read given that my commute every day is about an hour each way (by bus). Already this summer I've read 100 Years of Solitude by Marquez, Kitchen Confidential and Medium Raw by Anthony Bourdain, Night Soldiers by Alan Furst, and the Lord Of The Rings trilogy (again).  
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: bartzbrau on August 04, 2010, 07:42:01 PM
Larry McMurtry did some good work with Lonesome Dove.  

Stephen King has some good work out.  I particularly liked "Duma Key" and "The Stand".  Did not care for his Dark Tower series, and still think that the ending was the worst that I've ever read...especially after slogging through six or seven books to get there.  
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: weazletoe on August 04, 2010, 08:00:10 PM
READ LONESOME DOVE SERIES!!!!  Best series ever. End of story.

  If you want to read it order, read Comanche Moon, Lonesome Dove, Dead Man's Walk, and Streets of Lorado. Do it. NOW!
 

    I have spoken.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: yugamrap on August 04, 2010, 08:05:36 PM
For light, fun reading Carl Hiaasen is a good choice.  I especially enjoyed "Sick Puppy." http://www.carlhiaasen.com/books.html  

Anything by Douglas Adams is a good read.  http://www.douglasadams.com/creations/  The Hitchhikers' series is a classic, but my personal Adams favorite is "The Long Dark Teatime of the Soul"

If you've got some time for a larger novel, and enjoy expository fiction, try some Mark Helprin.  http://www.markhelprin.com/index.cfm?page=search&nsr=y&scid=4&cid=1  I think his masterpiece is "Winter's Tale,"  but I think "Memoir from Antproof Case"  is probably a better choice as a "first taste" of his style - it's a little easier to get into.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: nicneufeld on August 04, 2010, 08:26:24 PM
my personal Adams favorite is "The Long Dark Teatime of the Soul"

I'm very close to agreeing with you.  "Don't pickitup, pickitup, pickitup..."
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: tygo on August 05, 2010, 02:07:30 AM

Stephen King has some good work out.  

Have you read The Long Walk?  Old school King.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: narcout on August 05, 2010, 02:43:37 AM
Did not care for his Dark Tower series, and still think that the ending was the worst that I've ever read...especially after slogging through six or seven books to get there.  

Man, I thought the dark tower series was unbelievable.

If you've got some time for a larger novel, and enjoy expository fiction, try some Mark Helprin.  http://www.markhelprin.com/index.cfm?page=search&nsr=y&scid=4&cid=1  I think his masterpiece is "Winter's Tale,"  but I think "Memoir from Antproof Case"  is probably a better choice as a "first taste" of his style - it's a little easier to get into.

I read Winter's Tale last year, I still can't figure out if I liked it or not.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: tygo on August 05, 2010, 03:27:19 AM
Did not care for his Dark Tower series, and still think that the ending was the worst that I've ever read...especially after slogging through six or seven books to get there.  

Man, I thought the dark tower series was unbelievable.

I agree.  I go back to those books again and again.  I mean, how would you expect it to end?  "And they lived happily ever after"?
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: bartzbrau on August 05, 2010, 03:58:18 AM
Well....let's see.  First, you have the big, bad villain, the Crimson King.  Apparently, although he's supposed to be superpowerful and evil, he somehow locks himself out of the dark tower on some upstairs balcony.  And when Roland comes along, the King's weapon of choice?  Harry Potter "sneetches." (I kid you not.  Good thing he had a boxful when he locked himself out of the Tower!) Oooooooooooooooooooo.  And what is the best that he can scream at Roland?  "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!", like some girlyman.  Disappointment #1.

#2.  Stephen King HIMSELF tells you, right in the damn book, in the middle of the story, that you won't like the ending, and something to the effect that you might as well stop reading NOW.  Never a good sign.  If only I'd listened.

#3.  Roland's trip up the Tower.  In other King works, the Tower is supposed to be more mystical.  In "Insomnia", King alludes to the Tower as having different levels of existence/reality.  When Roland goes up the Tower...wow, scenes from Roland's past...that we've already seen.  Bo-ring.

#4.  The "Bobby Wakes Up From The (Season Long) Dream" episode of Dallas (the old TV show).  Roland finally reaches the top of the Tower, and the big climax is....he goes right back to the very beginning of the story, in order to live it all over again.


Now, granted, I'm not Stephen King.  And I know writing's hard work.  But come on.  This is the end to the build up of 7 books?  I gave every damn one of them away.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: tygo on August 05, 2010, 04:03:42 AM
It's just one of those things where every reader is going to take something different from it.  I know a lot of folks were not happy with the ending.
Title: Re: Since we're talking books....
Post by: Pawtucket Patriot on August 05, 2010, 12:04:49 PM
Picked up Lonesome Dove last night.   8)
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Post by: weazletoe on August 05, 2010, 08:49:30 PM
NICE!
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Post by: novabrew on August 08, 2010, 04:25:15 AM
Just finished Stephen King's "The Dome".  Awesome book.  Anything by Herman Wouk is good.