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Title: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: dmtaylor on February 10, 2018, 02:35:24 AM
...are some of the reasons I only drink about 2 beers per week on average.

Yeah.
Title: Re: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: ethinson on February 10, 2018, 02:55:11 PM
I got the fixings to make an old fashioned and discovered I really really like Angosturra Bitters.  There's been a couple times I've ordered a Manhattan out at a bar mistaking it for an Old Fashioned, but they are similar. I had a manhattan at Disneyland that went heavy on the bitters, I remarked to my wife "This is essentially Bourbon and Bitters... and it's great!" I couldn't taste the vermouth but that was OK by me.
Title: Re: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: dmtaylor on February 10, 2018, 04:48:29 PM
Yeah, an old fashioned is very close to being just a diluted version of a perfect Manhattan.  Or conversely, a Manhattan is a very very strong old fashioned.
Title: Re: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: reverseapachemaster on February 10, 2018, 06:52:18 PM
Definitely dig a well made old fashioned. Especially if made with rye rather than bourbon.

Margarita? Stop diluting my tequila.
Title: Re: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: Wilbur on February 10, 2018, 08:47:09 PM
There's a coffee shop (with beer on tap) that serves a (c)Old Fashioned-old fashioned with coffee infused bourbon. It's pretty amazing. The coffee flavor isn't really strong, just enough to get a blend in.
Title: Re: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: tookalisten on February 12, 2018, 02:35:08 AM
Dark and Stormy is my new "go to"....
Title: Re: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: erockrph on February 12, 2018, 04:32:39 PM
Dark and Stormy is my new "go to"....

I'm a huge fan of D&S. Try making your own ginger beer sometime - it's a game changer.
Title: Re: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: JJeffers09 on February 12, 2018, 04:55:51 PM
Yeah, an old fashioned is very close to being just a diluted version of a perfect Manhattan.  Or conversely, a Manhattan is a very very strong old fashioned.

Ouch, my brain hurts
Rye is king for both cocktails - however an old fashioned is not alcoholic sunny d, it has a hint of orange. Both cocktails are intended to appreciate the whiskey it is made with.  Strong and complex, not sweet. The Manhattan has a lot more dilution than a traditional Old Fashioned.  AKA The great old fashioned debate if you want to dive deeper into that history/argument.

Old Fashioned vs Manhattan

Sugar cube (1 cube only to 2 oz whiskey ) vs sweet vermouth to sweeten (2part whiskey to 1part Vermouth)
Orange peel vs brandied cherry
both share bitters - however historically
Fee brothers bitters vs Angostura
stir poured over a lump of ice vs stirred in a shaker glass full of ice/strained
Title: Re: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: ethinson on February 12, 2018, 08:47:28 PM
Definitely dig a well made old fashioned. Especially if made with rye rather than bourbon.

Margarita? Stop diluting my tequila.

I do enjoy rye whiskey.  Both for mixing and for sipping.

Have you heard of Damiana? It's an herbal liquor from the La Paz region of Baja California Sur.  It's sweet and a little floral.  It's readily available here in Oregon so I would assume other places as well? Sometimes we'll just mix a pour of tequila with the damiana over ice and call that a "margarita".  (About 2:1 Tequila to Damiana).  It still dilutes of course, but not nearly as much as say 2oz of Tequila in 16oz of "Mix" the way Applebees does it.
Title: Re: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: mabrungard on February 14, 2018, 01:42:07 PM
Rye is a valuable enhancement for a Manhattan. This is a recipe that my wife pulled off the web, excepting that I used Towne Branch Rye instead of bourbon.

1 cup bourbon
2/3 cup sweet vermouth
4 dashes Angostura (I found that it needs an extra dash or two)
4 Orange peel twists
4 Candied cherries

Obviously, this is not for one person!
Title: Re: Margaritas and Whiskey Old Fashioneds...
Post by: ethinson on February 15, 2018, 12:10:38 AM
Rye is a valuable enhancement for a Manhattan. This is a recipe that my wife pulled off the web, excepting that I used Towne Branch Rye instead of bourbon.

1 cup bourbon
2/3 cup sweet vermouth
4 dashes Angostura (I found that it needs an extra dash or two)
4 Orange peel twists
4 Candied cherries

Obviously, this is not for one person!

Challenge accepted... :)

On that note, I like to add cherries to my old fashioned so I guess I'm making a hybrid cocktail (although never really thought about it like that).