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Title: BeerSmith 3
Post by: kramerog on June 16, 2018, 08:16:17 PM
I see that it is now out.  I see that it has better support for mead, wine and cider.  How is it better than BeerSmith2 for making beer? 
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3
Post by: oginme on June 16, 2018, 09:15:43 PM
The whirlpool hop additions and bitterness calculations are much better with a setting to set the temperature of whirlpool addition.  There is also a 'hop' addition labeled 'whirlpool pause' which can be added and set for the entire length of the whirlpool so that delayed and staggered additions will by properly expressed on the brew day sheet and the timer.  The model for whirlpool addition IBU calculations is improved, though still dubious IMHO.

Support for water mineral/salt additions are moved into the recipe and respond much better in the mash pH estimation.  Ditto with acid/acidulated malt additions.  There is still an issue with directly adding acids/acidulated malt/minerals & salts directly into the recipe not being accounted for in the water profile tab.

Yeast starter tab now supports 2-step yeast starters.

Volumes are now given for LME and other liquid additions.

Better cloud support and recipe cloud search from within the program.

I'm sure that I've missed some of the other minor alterations, but these are the big ones that are visible.


Title: Re: BeerSmith 3
Post by: BrewBama on June 16, 2018, 10:51:09 PM
How about the timer - can you skip to the next step?


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Title: Re: BeerSmith 3
Post by: oginme on June 16, 2018, 10:59:01 PM
How about the timer - can you skip to the next step?


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Nope, still the same run, pause, reset, set buttons, no skip to next.
Title: BeerSmith 3
Post by: tommymorris on June 16, 2018, 11:06:22 PM
I upgraded. I want the feature of having folders in the cloud. I want all my old recipes in a folder that I can access from PC and cell phone.

Right now the folder works on the BeerSmith 3 PC version, but, on my cell, their is no folder. Just a ton of old recipes. Hopefully, BeerSmith Mobile updates soon with a fix.


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Title: Re: BeerSmith 3
Post by: klickitat jim on June 16, 2018, 11:49:38 PM
Did he include the International Maltiness Factor in the upgrade?
Title: BeerSmith 3
Post by: tommymorris on June 16, 2018, 11:51:21 PM
Did he include the International Maltiness Factor in the upgrade?
Yes, with oxidation prediction that lowers your IMF.


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Title: Re: BeerSmith 3
Post by: Big Monk on June 17, 2018, 12:58:01 AM
The pH stuff is a step in the right direction but is still not very good.
Title: Re: BeerSmith 3
Post by: kramerog on June 17, 2018, 02:53:02 AM
The whirlpool hop additions and bitterness calculations are much better with a setting to set the temperature of whirlpool addition.  There is also a 'hop' addition labeled 'whirlpool pause' which can be added and set for the entire length of the whirlpool so that delayed and staggered additions will by properly expressed on the brew day sheet and the timer.  The model for whirlpool addition IBU calculations is improved, though still dubious IMHO.

Support for water mineral/salt additions are moved into the recipe and respond much better in the mash pH estimation.  Ditto with acid/acidulated malt additions.  There is still an issue with directly adding acids/acidulated malt/minerals & salts directly into the recipe not being accounted for in the water profile tab.

Yeast starter tab now supports 2-step yeast starters.

Volumes are now given for LME and other liquid additions.

Better cloud support and recipe cloud search from within the program.

I'm sure that I've missed some of the other minor alterations, but these are the big ones that are visible.
Thanks, the water profile thing might be what makes me hold off on upgrading.

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Title: Re: BeerSmith 3
Post by: KellerBrauer on June 17, 2018, 08:19:10 PM

Nope, still the same run, pause, reset, set buttons, no skip to next.

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Title: Re: BeerSmith 3
Post by: Pricelessbrewing on June 17, 2018, 11:59:17 PM
@Oginme Great summary.

More importantly IMO than the whirlpool hop additions and whirlpool temperature being a variable, any existing hop additions performedin the boil will continue to isomerize during the whirlpool. It's still a fudge factor, but there's no more magic going on with a 1 minute boil additions giving 1 IBU when you're going through a 30 minute whirlpool simply because it's not a "whirlpool" addition.