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Title: Canned Microbrews
Post by: flapjack on August 12, 2010, 12:15:11 AM
I have been noticing an increase in microbrew canned beers carried in Chicagoland bars lately. I especially like Ska Brewings Modus Hoperandi, its a delicious American IPA. Anyone else seeing this trend out there?
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: The Professor on August 12, 2010, 01:43:57 AM
Absolutely, and I think it's a very good trend. 
I'm looking forward to seeing even more great beers available in cans.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: euge on August 12, 2010, 02:32:56 AM
Yes!

This is a good thing. Beer stays more stable and the shipping weight is decreased. At a minmum it won't get light struck. What I want to see is a 24oz can of Arrogant Bastard!

I can get the Modus Hoperandi but expensive.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: beerocd on August 12, 2010, 03:13:22 AM
Beer stays more stable and the shipping weight is decreased.

I thought all the excitement was being able to take something good fishing/camping/rafting.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: 1vertical on October 16, 2010, 05:38:10 AM
Avery is getting onboard with this
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Post by: toddhert on December 24, 2010, 04:35:56 AM
Keewenaw brewery here in Michigan does only cans. Quite good stuff! Their motto is "turning beer drinkers into craft beer drinkers", and I think the cans might help!

Bells is now doing 3 or 4 of theirs in mini-kegs. Not the same I know, but fun nonetheless!

I prefer cans because I like to take a few on hiking trips. Bottles are just too breakable and heavy to carry back.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: tumarkin on December 24, 2010, 01:49:05 PM
Beer stays more stable and the shipping weight is decreased.

I thought all the excitement was being able to take something good fishing/camping/rafting.

that's definitely a big plus. still remember the first time I was able to take cans of Dale's Pale Ale on a canoe trip. but there are other positives as well. it's all good. bottom line though... is it good beer in that can?
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: pinnah on December 24, 2010, 03:46:29 PM
Oskar Blues set the trend.  Seems everyone in Colorado is doing it now.

I like to crush, and it makes the recycle bin way smaller!



Yup, still waiting on the Maharaja in an Fosters style oil can! 8)
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: 1vertical on December 24, 2010, 03:56:23 PM
Yup, still waiting on the Maharaja in an Fosters style oil can! 8)

That would be a for sure good one Pinnah...
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: jaybeerman on December 24, 2010, 06:05:04 PM
I thought the trend had come and gone but now it seems to be hanging on.  Yes it's huge here in colorado and is a huge plus for outdoor enjoyment (car camping, rafting).  As far as the beer goes it seems to be no better or worse than a bottle.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: euge on December 24, 2010, 06:44:11 PM
Try Heineken in a can vs bottle. Two different beers. Same with Shiner and Fat Tire.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: SiameseMoose on December 24, 2010, 08:32:26 PM
More showing up all the time, but not all are right. I've had several that were badly oxidized, while bottles of the same beer at the same retailer were fine (New Belgium, I'm talking to you, but you're not alone. Yuengling is also guilty.) Clearly some brewers are experiencing steep learning curves with new equipment. I'm now a little leery of buying cans unless I know the brewery has been using them for at least a year.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: chaz on December 24, 2010, 08:53:00 PM
The trend is growing. According to CraftCans.com's Facebook Feed and blog, over 30 breweries started canning in 2010!

Cans are great, I hate taking bottles out hiking and hunting and canned beer selection here has been limited to mostly BMC until the last few years.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: toddhert on December 28, 2010, 10:56:29 PM
Even big European 'macro' brewery beers are MUCH better in cans. My wife is from Germany and loves Becks, but will only drink it on draft or from  can. She refuses to drink it from bottles, and after trying both, I agree, the canned Becks is actually pretty good.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: yeastmaster on January 18, 2011, 04:22:15 PM
Cans make taking good beer on a camping trip easier.....when can I start getting my homebrew in them?
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: phillamb168 on January 18, 2011, 04:45:00 PM
Cans make taking good beer on a camping trip easier.....when can I start getting my homebrew in them?

I would love to know how to do this, too, but I fear that the cost of canning is wayyyy beyond that of all but the deepest homebrew pockets - average microcanning rig is $10-50k.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: nicneufeld on January 18, 2011, 05:04:44 PM
Even big European 'macro' brewery beers are MUCH better in cans. My wife is from Germany and loves Becks, but will only drink it on draft or from  can. She refuses to drink it from bottles, and after trying both, I agree, the canned Becks is actually pretty good.

A 24oz green bottle of Beck's...sigh...my very first beer.

You can readily appreciate my excitement, months later after having had principally northern european green-glass lager, when I discovered that eau de skunk was not a universal attribute of beer!
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: livefreebrewfree on January 18, 2011, 05:18:58 PM
Hmmm. Not too sure about the cans. I think I might wait to switch over until they make a Vortex can.  :D

I'm liking the cans. Had a tasty 21st Amendment Fireside Chat a couple weekends ago after a tux fitting in Philly.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: SiameseMoose on January 19, 2011, 02:17:30 AM
Cans make taking good beer on a camping trip easier.....when can I start getting my homebrew in them?
If you want beer for a camping trip, buy a case of plastic bottles. You don't have to use the whole case at once, maybe a sixer from each batch.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: Hokerer on January 19, 2011, 02:22:20 AM
Not to open a can (yuk, yuk) of worms but do anything of the breweries canning beer state whether the linings of their cans contain that BPA stuff?  same question for the plastic bottles?
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: jaybeerman on January 19, 2011, 04:27:43 AM
Not to open a can (yuk, yuk) of worms but do anything of the breweries canning beer state whether the linings of their cans contain that BPA stuff?  same question for the plastic bottles?

I think the last thing I read was from one of the manufacturers of the cans - sure there's BPA but none that will make it into your system.  (not saying that I believe or disbelieve, just that I read)  That was a while back and I haven't heard anything on the subject since.

I would love to know how to do this, too, but I fear that the cost of canning is wayyyy beyond that of all but the deepest homebrew pockets - average microcanning rig is $10-50k.

Well that's not entirely out of the question  ;D till you realize that the minimum order for the cans is about $20k.  Now that's out of the question!
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: yeastmaster on January 19, 2011, 07:14:47 PM
Cans make taking good beer on a camping trip easier.....when can I start getting my homebrew in them?
If you want beer for a camping trip, buy a case of plastic bottles. You don't have to use the whole case at once, maybe a sixer from each batch.

That seems a whole lot easier than strapping a keg to my frame pack  :D
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: hamiltont on January 19, 2011, 07:34:50 PM
Even at a small brewery in Kearney, NE. Cheers!!! http://www.thunderheadbrewing.com/6packs.php (http://www.thunderheadbrewing.com/6packs.php) 
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: Bret on January 21, 2011, 08:10:46 PM
Been enjoying SlyFox's Pikeland Pils in cans for a few months.  Nice beer.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: vorlaufthegreat on March 27, 2011, 05:07:17 AM
Fat tire is very bad in cans. I'm not the biggest fan of it period but man is it awful in a can. It's not even the same beer. Oskar Blues on the other hand has really nailed canning down. Every one of their beers is excellent. I've noticed most brewery's here in Colorado have at least 1 brew in a can. Like all have said before it's very enjoyable for camping and living up everything Colorado has to offer.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: mabrungard on March 27, 2011, 04:52:01 PM
Canned brew makes sense.  Its great to see more breweries going in that direction. Sun King in Indy is canning and their beer is definitely worth drinking. 

I don't think that the issue mentioned above with Fat Tire is due to canning.  IMHO, Fat Tire is not all that great a beer but its sort of like SA Boston Lager in that its a middle of the road taste that the typical BMC drinker is willing to try more than once. It does pay the bills and that certainly allows New Belgian to do MUCH better brewing. 
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: SiameseMoose on March 27, 2011, 05:22:20 PM
I don't think that the issue mentioned above with Fat Tire is due to canning.  IMHO, Fat Tire is not all that great a beer but its sort of like SA Boston Lager in that its a middle of the road taste that the typical BMC drinker is willing to try more than once. It does pay the bills and that certainly allows New Belgian to do MUCH better brewing. 

I think the problem is with canning. I have tasted bottled and canned versions side-by-side, and the canned versions were awful.

I have a friend who works at Sam Adams, and they're looking into canning. However, he specifically said that the quality issue that New Belgium was having was one of the things giving them doubts.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: vorlaufthegreat on March 27, 2011, 05:43:16 PM



I think the problem is with canning. I have tasted bottled and canned versions side-by-side, and the canned versions were awful.

I have a friend who works at Sam Adams, and they're looking into canning. However, he specifically said that the quality issue that New Belgium was having was one of the things giving them doubts.

I have also done a side by side taste. Bottles being sup par and the canned being awful. I'm glad other Co. craft brewery's haven't had this problem.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: aetoole on March 29, 2011, 04:02:14 AM
I've dumped a case of various 21st A cans down the drain (watermelon, B n B etc).  Never had a bad can o' Dale's Pale, Brewer's Art Resurrection, or Butternuts anything though... So might just be 21st A's supplier or the temp during shipment? So I'll try anything in cans but 21st A.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: gordonstrong on March 29, 2011, 12:35:02 PM
Brewer's Art cans their beers now?  Sweet.  I'll have to look for that next time I'm in Baltimore. 

Gotta love a place with a beer called "Ozzy" as the Belgian Golden Strong (go ahead, figure it out).  Too bad they replaced their old tap handle (the metal finger sign: \m/) with a pitchfork.  That always cracked me up.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: 1vertical on April 09, 2011, 01:50:46 PM
Even at a small brewery in Kearney, NE. Cheers!!! http://www.thunderheadbrewing.com/6packs.php (http://www.thunderheadbrewing.com/6packs.php) 
Man I just drove through there and did not even have a clue.... ::) 
note to self: check for microbrewery locations prior to traveling.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: narvin on April 09, 2011, 04:19:16 PM
Brewer's Art cans their beers now?  Sweet.  I'll have to look for that next time I'm in Baltimore.  

Gotta love a place with a beer called "Ozzy" as the Belgian Golden Strong (go ahead, figure it out).  Too bad they replaced their old tap handle (the metal finger sign: \m/) with a pitchfork.  That always cracked me up.

Bottles and cans are brewed for Brewer's Art up at Sly Fox, I think.  Resurrection is the only one canned so far.  I definitely welcome the trend.

In response to the previous poster, I've never had a good Butternuts anything, but I'm not sure I can blame the cans.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: enso on April 21, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
I agree.  I just picked up a mixed 12 pack of Butternuts.  My reaction was meh, to Bleh!  Pretty weak beers.  It seems they only pack in cans and draft.  They seem to be more about novelty and marketing than quality.  My kids thought it was soda based on the can designs!

I have noticed more cans of late also.  I have mixed feelings about it.  I kind of like the novelty, but I am still not wholly convinced it is a good idea.  It certainly does not seem to be from a price perspective!  When I picked up the Butternuts I noticed they had some Oskar blues also (Old chubb and Dale's).  It was $14 for a 6 pack!!!  I have also seen Cisco (out of Nantucket) beers in a 12 pack for $19!!!  I have yet to try a beer of theirs I would buy again so there is no way I'll pay $19 for a 12 pack of cans!

Perhaps cans are better protection, perhaps not.  They don't seem to be more cost effective than glass from what I have seen though.  This despite recent spikes in glass prices.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: gymrat on May 26, 2011, 06:05:17 PM
Tallgrass Brewery  in Manhattan Kansas recently went to all can. I don't like buying beer in cans because then I don't get anymore bottles for my home brew. So I stopped buying their product. I wish they would give you a choice. I do agree that anything sold in a green bottle is horrible. It is always light struck. So if I were to buy a hieniken I would definitely buy it in cans.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: thomasbarnes on May 26, 2011, 10:52:36 PM
Sly Fox out of the Philadelphia region cans all of their beers, they do a very nice flight. I particularly like their Pikeland Pils - it's a spot-on German Pilsner.

I also second the Sun King recommendation. They're a fantastic brewery.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: a10t2 on May 26, 2011, 10:59:52 PM
I wish they would give you a choice.

You wouldn't believe what an absolute PITA it is trying to anticipate demand and balance the can/bottle production and inventory.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: punatic on May 27, 2011, 02:51:43 AM
I prefer to drink my beer from 5 gallon and 15.5 gallon cans!
(not all in one sitting of course)
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: scooter2374 on May 30, 2011, 12:17:56 AM
I believe the new start up around the corner from me, Carton Brewing Co., will can and keg. I can't wait for them to get up and running so I can sample and send in a full report ;D
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: johnf on May 30, 2011, 03:29:09 AM
Usually I find the canned version better if I can get both, though often if there is both it is some large brewery in Europe that probably has a very high end canning system and employees engineers and what not.

I think Tallgrass has had some QA issues with cans (oxidation). Their cans seem extremely full lately which I think is intended to combat that. The real problem is that pre-evacation is not working, I would fix it at the root (maybe they have, I can get Tallgrass draught so I rarely buy the cans other than maybe to take to a competition where it isn't sold to share).
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: phillamb168 on June 10, 2011, 11:20:26 AM
I just got a 4-pack of Brewdog Punk IPA cans. Gonna try one tonight, although I feel like I should be watching baseball (cricket?) while doing so.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: alikocho on June 10, 2011, 03:42:53 PM
I just got a 4-pack of Brewdog Punk IPA cans. Gonna try one tonight, although I feel like I should be watching baseball (cricket?) while doing so.

I haven't had it in a can, but I did just open a bottle of it....
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: Bret on June 10, 2011, 09:38:35 PM
Sly Fox out of the Philadelphia region cans all of their beers, they do a very nice flight. I particularly like their Pikeland Pils - it's a spot-on German Pilsner.

I also second the Sun King recommendation. They're a fantastic brewery.

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Been enjoying SlyFox's Pikeland Pils in cans for a few months.  Nice beer.

I guess we do agree on something Thomas. Cheers!
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: alikocho on June 10, 2011, 09:43:25 PM
Sly Fox out of the Philadelphia region cans all of their beers, they do a very nice flight. I particularly like their Pikeland Pils - it's a spot-on German Pilsner.

I also second the Sun King recommendation. They're a fantastic brewery.

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Been enjoying SlyFox's Pikeland Pils in cans for a few months.  Nice beer.

I guess we do agree on something Thomas. Cheers!


Never had theirs in cans, but had some growlers of Sly PA and bottles of Ichor and Saison Vos. I'm not sure all of their beers go into cans....Even so, good beers.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: euge on June 11, 2011, 12:47:53 AM
I like craft-beer in cans, and more is available than last year.  However, it's amongst the most expensive beer in the whole selection. Don't feel it is right for a four pack of cans to run upwards of $10 on and more.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: cheba420 on June 11, 2011, 01:50:53 AM
Most of the local breweries here in Phoenix are now canning. Most notably, San Tan Brewing. Their Hop Shock is pretty damn amazing! Great for the lake, camping, hiking, the pool....all that. I've had good experiences with most of the caned craft beer that I've had. I'd like to see more tallboys!!! When I want a pint....12 oz just will not do.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: aviking427 on June 11, 2011, 02:14:47 AM
Still not sold on the cans. I had a Butternuts mixer 12 pack and couldn't drink 10 out of the 12 beers because they were horrible. The Pork Slap was the only drinkable out of it. I actually tossed the last 4 beers. I've also had a few others that had a metallic taste and no nose to it. Can anyone suggest a decent beer in a can thats available in the north east? I've seen Dale's but I've honestly been turned off. A bit extreme i know but thats just how i am.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: Hokerer on June 11, 2011, 02:26:49 AM
I've also had a few others that had a metallic taste and no nose to it.

You're not drinking directly from the can, are you?  Have to admit that I'm not a real can fan either but drinking that way'll guarantee a metallic taste.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: aviking427 on June 11, 2011, 02:50:58 AM
I've also had a few others that had a metallic taste and no nose to it.

You're not drinking directly from the can, are you?  Have to admit that I'm not a real can fan either but drinking that way'll guarantee a metallic taste.

Just out of curiosity, why don't you like your beer in a can? I can say i drank it both from glass and can and can't say it was better either way. From a consumer standpoint: why put it in a can if you have to bring a glass with you to enjoy it? IMHO even Guinness in a can has a metallic taste that it doesn't have from Draught or bottle. Maybe I'm just too much of a beer snob, but I think cans cheapen the beer and ruin the taste. I guess if I was to have a BMC beer, I at least know its gonna taste like ass and I know what I'm getting into. Craft brewers work so hard to bring flavor and personality to beer, why F it up with a can? I know the answer will be cost, but........
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: Norm! on June 11, 2011, 04:18:27 AM
Portability is the best reason to can a beer, seems some of us like a good beer when we are out in the sticks. and face it. bottles are a b**** to haul out of the back country, Id love the option to purchase a great beer in a can.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: tschmidlin on June 11, 2011, 06:41:31 AM
Cans are better at protecting the beer from light and O2.  I don't think it cheapens the beer at all, but that's me.  Fort George has some nice beers in 16 oz cans.  Good stuff.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: toddhert on June 11, 2011, 02:01:11 PM
A new brewery by my house opened last year, Brewery Vivant. They can a few of their beers and I think it's great! I love cans! I also love German beers, but I won't buy it unless it's in a can. Taste a bottled German beer next to a canned one and you will taste the difference immediately!
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: cheba420 on June 11, 2011, 02:43:20 PM
If I'm on the river, on the lake, at the camp site, fishing, hiking....whatever I'm doing out doors.....I just put the can up to my lips and drink in the sweet hoppy goodness. If I find myself with leftover cans when I return home, I always pour into a glass. Just something about drinking from a glass at home... One more argument for cans: You cant make a pipe from a bottle! Sometimes you need to have a Macgyver moment when you're out there in the wilderness and that empty can...well, that empty can will come in handy right about now! ;)
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: narvin on June 11, 2011, 03:09:05 PM
Still not sold on the cans. I had a Butternuts mixer 12 pack and couldn't drink 10 out of the 12 beers because they were horrible.

In this case, it's definitely not the cans' fault...
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: Hokerer on June 11, 2011, 04:51:38 PM
Just out of curiosity, why don't you like your beer in a can?

Well, the first and most obvious reason, considering the forum we're in, is that you can't reuse cans.  I prefer brown crown cap bottles so I have somewhere to put my homebrew.

The second reason, well, at the risk of getting political, I prefer not to deal with Bisphenol A that's used in some can linings.  Folks can argue the risks til they're blue in the face (global warming anyone?), but the simplest (pragmatic?) thing is to just not deal with it at all.

Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: toddhert on June 11, 2011, 10:54:50 PM
Just out of curiosity, why don't you like your beer in a can?

Well, the first and most obvious reason, considering the forum we're in, is that you can't reuse cans.  I prefer brown crown cap bottles so I have somewhere to put my homebrew.

The second reason, well, at the risk of getting political, I prefer not to deal with Bisphenol A that's used in some can linings.  Folks can argue the risks til they're blue in the face (global warming anyone?), but the simplest (pragmatic?) thing is to just not deal with it at all.



That's interesting. The new brewery near my house (Brewery Vivant) cans their beer and puts a big explanation on all their cans as to how they compared bottles and cans and decided that cans are a 'greener' option than bottles. I really don't know what the truth is, but that's what they put on their cans.
Title: Re: Canned Microbrews
Post by: Hokerer on June 12, 2011, 02:15:16 AM
That's interesting. The new brewery near my house (Brewery Vivant) cans their beer and puts a big explanation on all their cans as to how they compared bottles and cans and decided that cans are a 'greener' option than bottles. I really don't know what the truth is, but that's what they put on their cans.

Yeah, as is usually the case, you can manipulate statistics and studies to support whatever you'd like to say.  Here's an interesting discussion of the arguments...  http://www.slate.com/id/2186219/ (http://www.slate.com/id/2186219/)