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Title: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: ericw on November 28, 2018, 06:40:18 PM
I own "Brewing Classic Styles" and have had great success brewing beers from that book and adapting recipes from ones in that book. Is there a suggested "next" book that would be a good follow-up with more good recipes, etc?

Thanks!
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: denny on November 28, 2018, 07:01:59 PM
How about Experimental Homebrewing for something a bit different?
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: riceral on November 28, 2018, 08:15:40 PM
Maybe Radial Brewing by Randy Mosher
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Robert on November 28, 2018, 08:34:09 PM
Good suggestions,  and if you're interested in historical beers (up to ~1960, just a few years after Denny became an established authority on brewing ;) ) Ron Pattinson's The Home Brewer's Guide to Vintage Beer and Let's Brew! are great resources, recipes compiled from his blog.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: denny on November 28, 2018, 09:19:56 PM
Good suggestions,  and if you're interested in historical beers (up to ~1960, just a few years after Denny became an established authority on brewing ;) ) Ron Pattinson's The Home Brewer's Guide to Vintage Beer and Let's Brew! are great resources, recipes compiled from his blog.

 ;D
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: kramerog on November 29, 2018, 03:46:46 AM
Gordon Strong's book would be next in that it is written by a winner of Homebrewer of the Year back when people medaled in multiple catergories in the NHC.  There is just one caveat.  He has his own particular brewing philosophy which if you brew exclusively with RO water will work like a charm, but if you find part of the challenge/enjoyment of brewing is messing with water chemistry than you might not like it as much.  I'm in the latter category so I haven't read the book, but I can't argue with his results.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: ynotbrusum on November 29, 2018, 11:41:35 AM
Agreed that both of Gordon’s books are well worth reading:

https://www.brewerspublications.com/blogs/author/gordon-strong

For historical perspectives, there are several BA books by Horst Dornbusch and the like that give nice treatment of beer styles with historical background into the style.

Cheers!
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: duncan on November 29, 2018, 03:42:05 PM
Looks like the two I would recommend have been mentioned...

"Modern Homebrew Recipes" by Gordon Strong in many ways feels like Brewing Classic Styles. "Experimental Brewing" by Randy Mosher is one of my personal favorites because it has a good mix of history and recipes.

Can't go wrong with either!
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: reverseapachemaster on November 29, 2018, 04:35:28 PM
Not a book but the clone recipes on the AHA site and Craft Beer & Brewing's website include a lot of great recipes you can play with that are modern renditions of the style.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: denny on November 29, 2018, 04:41:17 PM
Looks like the two I would recommend have been mentioned...

"Modern Homebrew Recipes" by Gordon Strong in many ways feels like Brewing Classic Styles. "Experimental Brewing" by Randy Mosher is one of my personal favorites because it has a good mix of history and recipes.

Can't go wrong with either!

Um, that's Experimental Homebrewing by Drew and me.  Randy's book is Radical Brewing.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Iliff Ave Brewhouse on November 29, 2018, 06:41:05 PM
Another plug for Mosher's Radical Brewing
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Kevin on November 29, 2018, 07:26:44 PM
Before you leap into Radical Brewing by Randy Mosher check out his book called Mastering Homebrew.

And yes, for real historical brewing background and recipes, Ron Pattinson's blog and books.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: denny on November 29, 2018, 08:15:44 PM
Before you leap into Radical Brewing by Randy Mosher check out his book called Mastering Homebrew.

Excellent suggestion.  An underappreciated book.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: BrewnWKopperKat on November 29, 2018, 11:27:46 PM
Is there a suggested "next" book [to "Brewing Classic Styles"] that would be a good follow-up with more good recipes, etc?

Take a look at "Secrets of the Master Brewers" by Jeff Alworth. 

Quote from: the how to use section of the book
So, what you’ll find in the book is a country-by-country collection of chapters. Each section begins with a discussion of the country at hand and what makes its national tradition distinctive. It may not seem immediately evident how Berliner weisse and helles lagers are alike, but they have more in common than you might imagine. Beyond that, the basic techniques shared among the traditions, things like open fermentation, barrel aging, kettle souring, spicing, decoction mashing, lagering, are described in detail only once. If one of these practices is relevant to a particular style but detailed elsewhere, I’ve mentioned where you can learn more.

The previously mentioned books (and authors) are good choices as well - I. have each of these books in my "ebook-shelf".
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: davidw on November 30, 2018, 01:18:56 PM
I own "Brewing Classic Styles" and have had great success brewing beers from that book and adapting recipes from ones in that book. Is there a suggested "next" book that would be a good follow-up with more good recipes, etc?

Thanks!

Surprised no one has mentioned Ray Daniels. If you want the best follow up to BCS then Designing Great Beers is what you are looking for. Ray's credentials are unmatched:

https://www.brewerspublications.com/products/designing-great-beers-the-ultimate-guide-to-brewing-classic-beer-styles

Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: denny on November 30, 2018, 03:11:04 PM
I own "Brewing Classic Styles" and have had great success brewing beers from that book and adapting recipes from ones in that book. Is there a suggested "next" book that would be a good follow-up with more good recipes, etc?

Thanks!

Surprised no one has mentioned Ray Daniels. If you want the best follow up to BCS then Designing Great Beers is what you are looking for. Ray's credentials are unmatched:

https://www.brewerspublications.com/products/designing-great-beers-the-ultimate-guide-to-brewing-classic-beer-styles

Unfortunately that book is so outmormdte that it's usefulness i really in question.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on November 30, 2018, 04:40:00 PM
I own "Brewing Classic Styles" and have had great success brewing beers from that book and adapting recipes from ones in that book. Is there a suggested "next" book that would be a good follow-up with more good recipes, etc?

Thanks!

Surprised no one has mentioned Ray Daniels. If you want the best follow up to BCS then Designing Great Beers is what you are looking for. Ray's credentials are unmatched:

https://www.brewerspublications.com/products/designing-great-beers-the-ultimate-guide-to-brewing-classic-beer-styles

Unfortunately that book is so outmormdte that it's usefulness i really in question.

I think Ray would agree.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: denny on November 30, 2018, 06:36:17 PM
I own "Brewing Classic Styles" and have had great success brewing beers from that book and adapting recipes from ones in that book. Is there a suggested "next" book that would be a good follow-up with more good recipes, etc?

Thanks!

Surprised no one has mentioned Ray Daniels. If you want the best follow up to BCS then Designing Great Beers is what you are looking for. Ray's credentials are unmatched:

https://www.brewerspublications.com/products/designing-great-beers-the-ultimate-guide-to-brewing-classic-beer-styles

Unfortunately that book is so outmormdte that it's usefulness i really in question.

I think Ray would agree.

I know he would.  I've talked to him about it.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Robert on November 30, 2018, 10:55:27 PM
I own "Brewing Classic Styles" and have had great success brewing beers from that book and adapting recipes from ones in that book. Is there a suggested "next" book that would be a good follow-up with more good recipes, etc?

Thanks!

Surprised no one has mentioned Ray Daniels. If you want the best follow up to BCS then Designing Great Beers is what you are looking for. Ray's credentials are unmatched:

https://www.brewerspublications.com/products/designing-great-beers-the-ultimate-guide-to-brewing-classic-beer-styles

Unfortunately that book is so outmormdte that it's usefulness i really in question.
If "outmormdte" means what I think it does, I'd say the same goes for the whole BA Classic Beer Style Series as well.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Wilbur on December 01, 2018, 05:42:02 AM
I own "Brewing Classic Styles" and have had great success brewing beers from that book and adapting recipes from ones in that book. Is there a suggested "next" book that would be a good follow-up with more good recipes, etc?

Thanks!

Surprised no one has mentioned Ray Daniels. If you want the best follow up to BCS then Designing Great Beers is what you are looking for. Ray's credentials are unmatched:

https://www.brewerspublications.com/products/designing-great-beers-the-ultimate-guide-to-brewing-classic-beer-styles

Unfortunately that book is so outmormdte that it's usefulness i really in question.

I think Ray would agree.

I know he would.  I've talked to him about it.

I kind of felt this way upon reading it 5-6 years ago when I first got it. It seemed like a great book for the time it was published, but it stopped being relevant. Kind of a shame, because you can tell Ray put a ton of work and love into it.

I really enjoyed Radical Brewing by Randy Mosher. I'd recommend borrowing Homebrew Allstars, as it's a great jumping off point. It's a great collection of sources, and I feel like going through that might help you find the next topic you'd like to dive into. I don't really read homebrew books for the recipes though, so take that as you will.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Jeff Zesch on December 04, 2018, 08:26:57 AM
outmormdte?????
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: davidw on December 04, 2018, 11:38:52 AM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And mine is: compared to the other books offered as follow ups they pail in comparison to DGB's. There is a wealth of historical information as well as great starting points for recipe development. Taken together it's an excellent resource.

Ray is modest, I know, I've talked to him too . . .(since we seem to find it important to drop names).


david
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: hopfenundmalz on December 04, 2018, 01:48:14 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And mine is: compared to the other books offered as follow ups they pail in comparison to DGB's. There is a wealth of historical information as well as great starting points for recipe development. Taken together it's an excellent resource.

Ray is modest, I know, I've talked to him too . . .(since we seem to find it important to drop names).


david
At a HomebrewCon a few years back, I mentioned to Pat Fahey that I knew Ray, and that he can go by one name, like Cher. That got a big laugh from Pat.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: denny on December 04, 2018, 03:13:59 PM
outmormdte?????

That's what happens when you type with one finger under the influence of painkillers.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Robert on December 04, 2018, 03:35:38 PM
outmormdte?????

That's what happens when you type with one finger under the influence of painkillers.
That does explain some of the "words" in some of your recent posts,  Denny.  But I always understand exactly what they mean.   Now I'm kinda worried about my brain.  :o
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: denny on December 04, 2018, 03:49:00 PM
outmormdte?????

That's what happens when you type with one finger under the influence of painkillers.
That does explain some of the "words" in some of your recent posts,  Denny.  But I always understand exactly what they mean.   Now I'm kinda worried about my brain.  :o

 ;D
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: chumley on December 04, 2018, 09:50:11 PM
As long as Denny doesn't start typing "covfefe" I think we are okay. 8)
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: jeffy on December 04, 2018, 10:13:05 PM
outmormdte?????

That's what happens when you type with one finger under the influence of painkillers.
That does explain some of the "words" in some of your recent posts,  Denny.  But I always understand exactly what they mean.   Now I'm kinda worried about my brain.  :o
I recently saw an ad for a t-shirt that read, "1N73LL1G3NC3 15 7H3 4B1L17Y 70 4D4P7 70 CH4NG3"
In spite of comprehending this, I still get upset when people use "their", "there" and "they're" wrong.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Robert on December 04, 2018, 11:14:05 PM
outmormdte?????

That's what happens when you type with one finger under the influence of painkillers.
That does explain some of the "words" in some of your recent posts,  Denny.  But I always understand exactly what they mean.   Now I'm kinda worried about my brain.  :o
I recently saw an ad for a t-shirt that read, "1N73LL1G3NC3 15 7H3 4B1L17Y 70 4D4P7 70 CH4NG3"
In spite of comprehending this, I still get upset when people use "their", "there" and "they're" wrong.
Very cool, Jeffy!

I am reminded that written language is, in its origins,  a crude and "just good enough" attempt to suggest to the recipient the sounds of spoken language,  which is primary for us humans.  Literacy may have made us forget that.  Texting and autocorrupt, ironically, seem to be returning us to the fundamentals of human culture.  Or maybe just shoving us into that handbasket, either way.

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Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Visor on December 05, 2018, 03:58:48 PM
Or perhaps texting is just training us to lower our standard of expectation of what really qualifies as "communication".
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Wilbur on December 05, 2018, 04:40:04 PM
Or perhaps texting is just training us to lower our standard of expectation of what really qualifies as "communication".


I like to think that there's a law of conservation of stupidity, much like matter. Like matter or energy, stupidity cannot be created or destroyed. Some people will be less dumb about certain things. Over time, we may get better at some things, but we will get worse at others. The quest for knowledge is a sisyphean task, the only respite is to enjoy the process.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Kevin on December 05, 2018, 07:45:59 PM
Or perhaps texting is just training us to lower our standard of expectation of what really qualifies as "communication".

As long as thoughts and ideas are being communicated why be critical of the language used? Texting is simply another language. It doesn't lower standards anymore than communication in Gaelic or Basque. The very definition of "communication" is imparting or exchanging information or news... the successful conveying or sharing of ideas and feelings... social contact. Texting does all of that which makes it a valid form of communication.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: dbeechum on December 05, 2018, 09:27:01 PM
Also, don't forget that prior to the work of a bunch of grammarians and word freaks like Webster in the 1800's - English spelling was more like texting than not in terms of being radically arbitrary.
Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: mchrispen on December 06, 2018, 01:32:15 AM
outmormdte?????

That's what happens when you type with one finger under the influence of painkillers.
Why are you only giving one finger painkillers?


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Title: Re: What's next after "Brewing Classic Styles"?
Post by: Robert on December 06, 2018, 12:23:58 PM
Also, don't forget that prior to the work of a bunch of grammarians and word freaks like Webster in the 1800's - English spelling was more like texting than not in terms of being radically arbitrary.
So spelling rules are like BJCP style guidelines.   8)