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Title: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: roguejim on August 29, 2010, 02:40:13 AM
A local watering hole is serving Oskar Blues Gubna, on tap.  Apparently, it's a double IPA @ 10.5% ABV.  From their site, it appears they have the distinction of being the first craft brewery to can its beers.  Any feedback on this "Gubna" offering, or any of their other brews?

http://www.oskarblues.com/the-brews/gubna

While I'm at it, what's the skinny on Summit hops?  I'm hearing everything from "grapefruit bomb aroma" to "fresh garlic/onion".
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: tschmidlin on August 29, 2010, 05:22:10 AM
I'm a big fan of the Oskar Blues beers - Gordon, Ten Fidy, Dale's Pale, Old Chub.  All nice beers.  I had a bunch more of their beers when I visited Lyons a few years back, but don't remember their names.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: skyler on August 29, 2010, 06:29:54 AM
Summit hops are dank like CTZ and citrusy-fruity like Cascade - only the flavor is more orange-tangerine than it is grapefruit-pomelo. They are EXTREMELY high AA%, and with low co-humulone, so you get a real smooth bitterness out of them - an excellent hop, and one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: majorvices on August 29, 2010, 12:54:49 PM
I like many of the Oskar Blues beers. I did not like the Gubna. That one fails as a IIPA. And it had a strong vegal character I could not enjoy. Had a hard time getting through that 6 pack.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: MDixon on August 29, 2010, 02:52:16 PM
I detest Gubna and the garlic and onion hop flavors...YMMV
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: tschmidlin on August 29, 2010, 07:55:17 PM
I haven't had the Gubna, but it sounds like I don't need to get more than one :)
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: The Professor on August 29, 2010, 11:17:44 PM
I haven't had the Gubna, but it sounds like I don't need to get more than one :)

At least try it before you dismiss it... I think the stuff is awsome...very complex, lots of different flavors going on.  Admittedly it's not for un-adventurous taste buds, but I found it to be great and on par with all of their products.  And they get extra points for packaging it in cans.

As a very wise man once said, "You'll never know until you check it out."
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: tschmidlin on August 29, 2010, 11:20:26 PM
I haven't had the Gubna, but it sounds like I don't need to get more than one :)

At least try it before you dismiss it... I think the stuff is awsome...very complex, lots of different flavors going on.  Admittedly it's not for un-adventurous taste buds, but I found it to be great and on par with all of their products.  And they get extra points for packaging it in cans.

As a very wise man once said, "You'll never know until you check it out."
That's why I'll get one - to try it.  If I like it, I can get more.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: majorvices on August 29, 2010, 11:28:40 PM
I haven't had the Gubna, but it sounds like I don't need to get more than one :)

At least try it before you dismiss it... I think the stuff is awsome...very complex, lots of different flavors going on.  Admittedly it's not for un-adventurous taste buds, but I found it to be great and on par with all of their products.  And they get extra points for packaging it in cans.

As a very wise man once said, "You'll never know until you check it out."

For the record I have adventurous taste buds. But this beer tastes like sweaty arm pits. That's an adventure I'm just not down for, sorry.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: mikeypedersen on August 30, 2010, 01:27:14 AM
I like many of the Oskar Blues beers. I did not like the Gubna. That one fails as a IIPA. And it had a strong vegal character I could not enjoy. Had a hard time getting through that 6 pack.
It would be hard to get through a 6-Pack since it comes in 4 packs!    ;D

I love this beer and have never gotten sweatty armpits out of it. Of course I'm normally drinking it fresh at the brewery. My favorite beer of theirs is definitely the TenFidy. I also reaaly like the Gordon.

Of course the other cool part about Oskar's is that they give homebrewers 25% off on beer and food. Even kegs!  They just opened up a new resteraunt that has 43 taps of all craft beer along with a Cajun inspired menu. Even all of the guest beers including Lost Abbey, Aka, Russian River, etc. are all 25% off for AHA members. You've got to appreciate that!
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: MDixon on August 30, 2010, 12:07:42 PM
Admittedly it's not for un-adventurous taste buds

ROTFLMAO - to insinuate that I might not have adventurous taste buds is so funny it just doesn't even deserve further comment.

The beer sucks IMO due to the use of Summit hops - however some like it and like those aromas and flavors. It's one of those beers some love and some hate, I'm of the latter group.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: majorvices on August 30, 2010, 12:24:19 PM
I agree Mike, I found the "adventurous taste buds" comment a little silly. I didn't care for it at all and would not buy it again. And, FTR, haveing to drink 4 probably felt like drinking 6.  ;)
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: MDixon on August 30, 2010, 01:18:39 PM
I got through 4 ounces out of an 8 ounce draft pour before giving up and ordering something I enjoyed.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: chumley on August 30, 2010, 10:50:48 PM
I had a couple of cans of Gubna on a Yellowstone River float trip in early July this year, and thought it was fantastic. River was high and muddy....nothing like getting a good buzz going while floating on a flooding river.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: tschmidlin on August 30, 2010, 11:16:27 PM
My last river trip the raft flipped, one guy got stuck under it and nearly drowned, another got whacked with a paddle and was bleeding everywhere, and I got swept over some rapids head first.  It was awesome  ;D

This was a professionally guided trip mind you, with no alcohol present.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: The Professor on August 30, 2010, 11:34:07 PM
I agree Mike, I found the "adventurous taste buds" comment a little silly. I didn't care for it at all and would not buy it again. And, FTR, haveing to drink 4 probably felt like drinking 6.  ;)

It's ok.  I do say silly things sometimes.
It's part of my M.O.   ;D

I certainly meant no offense! ::)
I am a reformed/recovering  beer snob and  big supporter of "to each his own", especially when it comes to taste in beer. After all, one man's elixer is another's poison.

Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: majorvices on August 31, 2010, 09:31:59 PM

I certainly meant no offense! ::)


Wait! First you insinuate I have an "unadventurous palate" and then you roll your eyes at me?? ;) :P

Seriously, I think it was more than the Summit hops I disliked. The beer had a cooked cabbage character to me. I was seriously thinking there was some DMS going on. Could have been a bad batch, or one that was not properly taken care of before it landed in my glass. That said, I am also not a fan of Summit hops.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: MDixon on August 31, 2010, 11:49:19 PM
I didn't find any DMS in the draft I had - just tons of onions and garlic. YMMV
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: beveragebob on September 03, 2010, 04:15:23 AM
I made an IPA with all Summits once when they were first introduced. I subsequently dumped the beer down the drain. It was like chewing on lemon rinds and rubber bands. Never again.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: tschmidlin on September 03, 2010, 04:32:07 AM
Ok, I picked up a can a few days ago and finally sat down to drink it tonight.  45 minutes later, I still have about half of it left.  The aroma is pleasant enough, but the flavor has lots of garlic scapes and chives.  This is not my favorite beer. 
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: MDixon on September 05, 2010, 11:47:37 AM
BINGO, we have a winner.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: a10t2 on September 21, 2010, 03:43:08 AM
I just had the Gubna at their tap room a few weeks ago and thought it was incredible. Seriously debated having a second, but came to my senses. I definitely didn't get any DMS out of it.

FWIW, I find Summit to be very onion/garlic-y when the beer is young, but that it fades into a great tangerine/grapefruit flavor after a few weeks.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: majorvices on September 22, 2010, 02:12:55 AM
FTR I thought it was incredible too. Incredibly bad.  :P
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: The Professor on September 22, 2010, 03:01:35 AM
FTR I thought it was incredible too. Incredibly bad.  :P

Well, there your go.
To each his own

I still liked it a lot better than almost anything I've had from DogfishHead.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: majorvices on September 23, 2010, 01:08:25 PM
I'm not a big fan of many beers I have had from DFH either. The 60 min is pretty good, though.

I would try the Gubna again if I found it on tap to see if I liked it better. I personally would be gun shy to buy it by the can again.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: dontblake on September 23, 2010, 02:44:03 PM
Oskar Blues was indeed the first craft beer in a can.
While I love just about all of their beers (and they're just up the road in Longmont/Lyons), I haven't really enjoyed Gubna yet.  It was first described to me as intensely citrusy, but, all I got was that garlic/onion thing that everyone else has been mentioning.  Perhaps it was just a particular year's worth of Summit hops that gave it more of a garlic/onion vs citrus character?   
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: MDixon on September 23, 2010, 05:34:51 PM
I don't even begin to understand all the mechanisms of aroma and taste, but it could be some people do not perceive the garlic and onions and for others it is overwhelming. I'm certainly of the latter variety and if Gubna was offered to me for free I would pass...YMMV.
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: Rhoobarb on September 23, 2010, 06:04:13 PM
... I find Summit to be very onion/garlic-y when the beer is young, but that it fades into a great tangerine/grapefruit flavor after a few weeks.
Exactly!  I brewed an IPA with it and found the same!  I like Summit!  Beveragebob, you dumped yours too soon! ;D  I'll have to seek out some of this Gubna beer you people are talking about.  I don't know if it has arrived in Chicago yet or not.  Don't recall seeing any OB beers yet.  But I have so much homebrew, I don't spend much time at the booze shop these days! ;)
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: MDixon on May 10, 2013, 11:46:42 AM
Resurrecting this old conversation. OB revised the Gubna recipe and now uses a blend of Cascade and Summit hops instead of only using Summit. The onions and garlic are gone and it is now a darn respectable double IPA.

http://mashbang.wordpress.com/2013/05/10/if-you-liked-the-onions-and-garlic-you-are-out-of-luck/
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: tschmidlin on May 10, 2013, 03:15:37 PM
Thanks Mike, I'm going to have to give it another try.
Title: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: jbthomas69 on May 10, 2013, 09:18:52 PM
Ive heard Summit described as sweaty foot and garlic and ive heard it described as citrusy. I wonder if there is a human genetic link to the difference. Cilantro has the same effect on some people
Title: Re: Oskar Blues ...
Post by: MDixon on May 11, 2013, 12:17:54 PM
If there was a genetic link I would think people who hated it when first released (me) and now don't find the onions and garlic to be present would still perceive those characteristics at some level.

Much of tasting is memory. If someone gave you a fruit you had never had before you would say it tastes similar to something else. It could be those who did not find garlic and onions had a different taste memory.