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Title: dead mouse in my carboy
Post by: brewbarr on September 12, 2010, 04:16:26 PM
just started brewing after 10 years pulled out my basic kit to find  what I had and to my suprise found a dead mouse in my carboy if I clean it with a brush and soak it in bleach will I be ok?
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Post by: euge on September 12, 2010, 04:18:18 PM
Absolutely.
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Post by: tschmidlin on September 12, 2010, 04:45:35 PM
Yeah, if you can get past the ick factor :)
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Post by: maxieboy on September 12, 2010, 05:57:47 PM
No worries... Just give it a thorough cleaning and sanitizing.
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Post by: EHall on September 12, 2010, 08:57:30 PM
You'll have to dedicate the 1st brew to that poor critter... how bout 'mousetrap ale'?
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Post by: jeffy on September 12, 2010, 09:08:15 PM
Dead Rodent Red
Deceased Mouse Mild
Carcass Cream Ale
Not Your Disney Mouse Milk Stout
The possibilities are endless.
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Post by: nathanw on September 12, 2010, 09:18:06 PM
No problem at all. I had this happen once; the real mystery was how it got in (the carboy wasn't in a box or anything, so it would have to have leapt from the wall or fallen from the ceiling - I don't think mice can scale vertical glass).
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Post by: tumarkin on September 12, 2010, 09:21:52 PM
then again, you might want to be adventerous, take a walk on the wild side. just leave that poor mousie in place and ferment away. sort of a cock ale variant. then you could really make use of Jeff's naming suggestions.
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Post by: jeffy on September 12, 2010, 09:50:13 PM
Gives now meaning to the moussy head description of Belgian Dark Strong Ale
Here's Rat in Your Eye
Mousebock, a hairier version of Eisbock
Squeaky Clean Carboy California Common
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Post by: tumarkin on September 12, 2010, 09:54:52 PM
hmmmm......Mouse Head Mild

that's got an English ring to it. bet they'd drink lots of that down at the local pub.
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Post by: Mark G on September 12, 2010, 11:59:33 PM
Forget Moose Drool, you've got Mouse Drool!
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Post by: tubercle on September 13, 2010, 12:41:49 AM
Did I read somewhere that chickens were put in some kind of brew or was I just having a nightmare? I guess a rat could be used for the same purpose.
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Post by: positiverpr on September 13, 2010, 12:51:45 AM
just started brewing after 10 years pulled out my basic kit to find  what I had and to my suprise found a dead mouse in my carboy if I clean it with a brush and soak it in bleach will It be ok?
you can try it but i dont think that any amount of cleaning/brushing/sanitizing will bring him back now. ;)
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Post by: beerocd on September 13, 2010, 01:08:47 AM
just started brewing after 10 years pulled out my basic kit to find  what I had and to my suprise found a dead mouse in my carboy if I clean it with a brush and soak it in bleach will It be ok?
you can try it but i dont think that any amount of cleaning/brushing/sanitizing will bring him back now. ;)

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice, have you read the proper grammar thread?
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Post by: jeffy on September 13, 2010, 01:26:37 AM
Mouse Revival Mild
Resuscitation Pale Ale
Resurrection IPA
Mouse-Be-Gone Belgian Brown
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Post by: beerocd on September 13, 2010, 02:41:58 AM
I would not drink it in your house
I would not drink cuz the dead mouse
I do not like dead mouse haus ale
It makes me hurl in your ale pail

 ;D

* Just feelin' Suessy
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Post by: rabid_dingo on September 13, 2010, 04:53:54 AM
Mouse Revival Mild
Resuscitation Pale Ale
Resurrection IPA
Mouse-Be-Gone Belgian Brown
Don't care who you are, that's funny!
:D
Critter done!
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Post by: theDarkSide on September 13, 2010, 12:25:18 PM
If I wanted to Dry Mouse my pale ale, how many dead mice would you suggest? :)

Had one die in my better bottle once.  Hot PBW soak, rinse, another hot PBW soak and rinse over several days.  All better after that.
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Post by: jeffy on September 13, 2010, 01:38:43 PM
OK, one more and then I'm done:
Late Mouse West Coast IPA
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Post by: bono_loves_beer on September 13, 2010, 01:43:56 PM
Did I read somewhere that chickens were put in some kind of brew or was I just having a nightmare? I guess a rat could be used for the same purpose.

That's what someone said before, it's called Cock Ale, and the recipe involves mashing up a whole chicken and steeping it in your beer for a day or so at the end of the ferment. I feel like you'd need a slew of dead mice for this purpose, and for that reason I'd be hesitant to try "Mouse Drool Ale."
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Post by: dak0415 on September 13, 2010, 02:03:26 PM
Yeah, if you can get past the ick factor :)
In my experience PBW + bleach trumps ick.  Just don't tell anyone outside this forum!
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Post by: tschmidlin on September 13, 2010, 03:50:49 PM
Yeah, if you can get past the ick factor :)
In my experience PBW + bleach trumps ick.  Just don't tell anyone outside this forum!
Yeah, there's whether it's clean or not (it will be) and whether anyone wants to drink it.  Perception is everything :)

Take a brand new, fresh out of the package toilet brush, wash it, then use it to stir a pot of chili.  Then see how many people who saw you do that want to eat the chili.
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Post by: rabid_dingo on September 13, 2010, 10:57:14 PM
Or...

Go throught the cleaning process, line up all the empty fermenters that have the same shape as
the one in question. Go somewhere else while someone switches them arround 3-card monte
style so that you don't know which one it was...Unless you lable them...
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Post by: tubercle on September 14, 2010, 12:13:01 AM
Yeah, if you can get past the ick factor :)
In my experience PBW + bleach trumps ick.  Just don't tell anyone outside this forum!
Yeah, there's whether it's clean or not (it will be) and whether anyone wants to drink it.  Perception is everything :)

Take a brand new, fresh out of the package toilet brush, wash it, then use it to stir a pot of chili.  Then see how many people who saw you do that want to eat the chili.

 Oh! my, my, my....

 Guess what Tubercle is going to do this Thanksgiving when all of the kids and grand-kids are over for dinner. 8) 8) 8)
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Post by: MrNate on September 14, 2010, 06:17:25 PM
Did I read somewhere that chickens were put in some kind of brew or was I just having a nightmare? I guess a rat could be used for the same purpose.

That's what someone said before, it's called Cock Ale, and the recipe involves mashing up a whole chicken and steeping it in your beer for a day or so at the end of the ferment. I feel like you'd need a slew of dead mice for this purpose, and for that reason I'd be hesitant to try "Mouse Drool Ale."

I was wondering if he just didn't see the reference to "Cock Ale", or if he saw it and just assumed something completely different.
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Post by: tubercle on September 15, 2010, 12:14:37 AM
Saw it.

  Wasn't sure.

    Down here we call them roosters.
   
      This day and time, who knows? ;D
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Post by: tumarkin on September 15, 2010, 11:16:54 AM
Cock ale recipe came from a book from the mid 1600's called The Closet of the Eminently Learned Sir Kenelme Digby and involved aging a beer with rooster & spices. Google it if you want, I'm just not that interested in the recipe...... though if I had a dead mouse in my carboy (nice and aged at that) I might be tempted.... but probably not.

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Post by: tubercle on September 15, 2010, 11:50:35 AM
Cock ale recipe came from a book from the mid 1600's called The Closet of the Eminently Learned Sir Kenelme Digby and involved aging a beer with rooster & spices. Google it if you want, I'm just not that interested in the recipe...... though if I had a dead mouse in my carboy (nice and aged at that) I might be tempted.... but probably not.


  Thanks. I looked it up and found the recipe. Mmmmmm.

 I think I would rather scrap a dead mouse out of a carboy and sanitize with bleach and stick with malt and hops ;D
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Post by: 1vertical on September 15, 2010, 01:10:31 PM
Take a brand new, fresh out of the package toilet brush, wash it, then use it to stir a pot of chili.  Then see how many people who saw you do that want to eat the chili.

I adopted a new one and use it for reaching into the bottom of my cornie kegs to swish em out....

proposed name for mousy carboy beer....

"Hanta Hopback"
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Post by: tschmidlin on September 15, 2010, 04:03:22 PM
Take a brand new, fresh out of the package toilet brush, wash it, then use it to stir a pot of chili.  Then see how many people who saw you do that want to eat the chili.
I adopted a new one and use it for reaching into the bottom of my cornie kegs to swish em out....
That's a really good idea.  When I need to really scrub my cornies (which isn't that often) I usually end up with my arm as far into the keg as I can shove it (which isn't that far) and my carboy brush isn't really stiff enough to get good scrubbing.  I'll have to get one - and clearly label it :)
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Post by: speter on December 02, 2010, 03:01:55 AM
I guess the real question is: do late mouse additions contribute more to the aroma?
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Post by: theDarkSide on December 02, 2010, 01:12:50 PM
I guess the real question is: do late mouse additions contribute more to the aroma?

Definately aroma and I can tell you it doesn't fade quickly ( why do those little bastards always die in the walls!!! )
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Post by: Kaiser on December 02, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
While on the subject, I ended up making a humane mouse trap out of my grain bucket. I left the empty but not cleaned bucket w/o a lid in the basement and the next morning I had two mice in it. They must have fallen into it after being attracted by the grain smell.

The kids got a kick out of it and the wife didn’t even want to come within 10 ft of the bucket.

Kai
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Post by: jaybeerman on December 02, 2010, 06:47:02 PM
"Hey we found a dead mouse in our beer eh. Uh, that means you owe us a free case." - the best beer movie ever

I like the chili brush idea.  Reminds me of a friend’s story, he had unexpected guests showing up at dinner time a little too frequently.  So after dinner he invited them to stay and relax while he did the dishes, real quick.  He called the dogs and let them lick each dinner plate clean before putting them back into the cupboards.  Go figure but for whatever reason those folks don't come by so much anymore.
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Post by: oscarvan on December 04, 2010, 02:16:31 AM
Mouse hops.
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Post by: speter on December 05, 2010, 02:44:01 AM
Mouse hops.

Pellets, of course.
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Post by: tumarkin on December 05, 2010, 01:01:43 PM
Mouse hops.

Pellets, of course.

connect the dots, free association, whatever. this reminded me of the episode of the Red Green show where Red turns a washing machine into a brewing system. he didn't really know what hops were, neither did any of the other Possum Lodge members, but he knew that rabbits hop, rabbit food is little green pellets, ergo rabbit food must be hops..... and in they went. hilarious episode.

just did a quick search on you tube. lots of Red Green clips, but didn't see this one. maybe someone better at searching could find it.
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Post by: oscarvan on December 05, 2010, 01:39:51 PM
LOVE the Red and Green show.......

A washer as a brewing setup....... hmmmmmm takes sparging to a whoooooole new level. Maybe I can re-label the control panel.....Ale, Lager, Stout....... ;D
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Post by: jaybeerman on December 15, 2010, 07:13:01 PM
Well brewbarr I just suffered some "instant karma" for my comments.  Looks like I get to scrubb a mouse from a 3 gallon carboy that I hadn't used in 10 years.
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Post by: euge on December 15, 2010, 07:24:08 PM
LOVE the Red and Green show.......

A washer as a brewing setup....... hmmmmmm takes sparging to a whoooooole new level. Maybe I can re-label the control panel.....Ale, Lager, Stout....... ;D

Might be a way to make a centrifuge out of a washer. Then one could spin the yeast etc out instead of filtering.
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Post by: tumarkin on December 15, 2010, 07:41:03 PM
LOVE the Red and Green show.......

A washer as a brewing setup....... hmmmmmm takes sparging to a whoooooole new level. Maybe I can re-label the control panel.....Ale, Lager, Stout....... ;D

Might be a way to make a centrifuge out of a washer. Then one could spin the yeast etc out instead of filtering.

hell yes, Red wouldn't worry about anything as ephemeral as oxidation. go for it!!
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Post by: oscarvan on December 16, 2010, 02:57:47 AM
But, will it include the use of duct tape?
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Post by: denny on December 16, 2010, 03:17:08 AM
I guess the real question is: do late mouse additions contribute more to the aroma?

Dry mousing is where it's at.
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Post by: madscientist on December 16, 2010, 05:20:41 PM
The Dropkick Murphys have a song called "Good Rats..." about some rats that drowned themselves in a barrel of Guinness.. I don't know if its actually true or not, but it's a fun song and this topic reminded me of that. 

Has anyone suggested "Dead Mouse Ale?" 
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Post by: James Lorden on December 16, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
When I was younger I remember hearing an urban legend that a long time ago rats were found in the "vats" at guinness.  The rats were removed but the beer tasted different.  To correct the flavor, guinness started adding raw meat when making the beer.

I had no knowledge of brewing at the time so I don't even know what "vats" we could be talking about - and being a young uninformed kid I think I actually believed this story.  At that time all anyone drank was yellow fizz so guinesse really was a mystery to me.

Thinking about it now it's just about the funniest thing I've ever heard.