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Title: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on August 29, 2021, 04:14:49 pm
Call me a glutton for punishment but I have accepted the Head Brewer position at Rocket Republic Brewing in Madison, AL. This brewery needs big time help, and not sure I can save it (the dummies weren't even cleaning the draft lines because no one could figure out whose job it was. Pretty ridiculous.) But I'm going to give it my best shot. Their beers aren't all bad. But there has been very little QC and a healthy dose of "don't give a damn" so, as you can imagine, a solid recipe for failure.

This will be my third head brewing position in as many years (the first one being at the brewery I founded but can't get bought out of, the second died because of Covid). I'm hoping to make this one stick for a few years. Otherwise -- I'm out for good.

Just when I started to enjoy homebrewing again.
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: BrewBama on August 29, 2021, 04:16:19 pm
I will say they do need help. I hope they’ll pick up what you lay down.



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Post by: beerphilmcd on August 29, 2021, 04:20:15 pm
Good luck! Culture and give-a-crap along with financials and market mean prosperity bs death of a business. Sounds like they need front of house leadership as much as anything! Good luck. I have a business plan for a small chain of across the bar breweries, had my first investor and others joining up when COVID hit and we tabled it… thankfully!


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Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on August 29, 2021, 04:38:00 pm
Thanks. Yeah, I have been cleaning the lines so the beers are a lot better! But, they are using old hops (isovaleric cheese bombs). The former brewer is a personal friend of mine so, like, I take this job with the knowledge that he thinks I screwed him over but the owner came to me. It's unfortunate because I only wanted to work at a brewery to access to cheap grain! But the entire business is on the brink of failure and the owner knows I have done this before ... he didn't beg me. But, ok, he did kinda beg me.

Regardless, I'm excited to have a new project. Love to get some local guys in for a sensory sometime.
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Post by: tommymorris on August 29, 2021, 04:43:08 pm
Thanks. Yeah, I have been cleaning the lines so the beers are a lot better! But, they are using old hops (isovaleric cheese bombs). The former brewer is a personal friend of mine so, like, I take this job with the knowledge that he thinks I screwed him over but the owner came to me. It's unfortunate because I only wanted to work at a brewery to access to cheap grain! But the entire business is on the brink of failure and the owner knows I have done this before ... he didn't beg me. But, ok, he did kinda beg me.

Regardless, I'm excited to have a new project. Love to get some local guys in for a sensory sometime.
Maybe I need to make a trip to the tap room. What should I order? What is good?
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on August 29, 2021, 04:55:18 pm
Thanks. Yeah, I have been cleaning the lines so the beers are a lot better! But, they are using old hops (isovaleric cheese bombs). The former brewer is a personal friend of mine so, like, I take this job with the knowledge that he thinks I screwed him over but the owner came to me. It's unfortunate because I only wanted to work at a brewery to access to cheap grain! But the entire business is on the brink of failure and the owner knows I have done this before ... he didn't beg me. But, ok, he did kinda beg me.

Regardless, I'm excited to have a new project. Love to get some local guys in for a sensory sometime.
Maybe I need to make a trip to the tap room. What should I order? What is good?

The Stratospheric Collision is a really good Hazy IPA. The Six iron Pils is also good. Aside from that, not much else. I'm working on fixing that but its gonna take a minute.
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Post by: Megary on August 29, 2021, 05:43:13 pm
“Just when i thought I was out, they pull me back in.”
- Majorvices Corleone

Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on August 29, 2021, 05:46:47 pm
“Just when i thought I was out, they pull me back in.”
- Majorvices Corleone

Bwahahahaha!
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: RC on August 29, 2021, 05:48:55 pm
It sounds like you're getting on the Titanic. You might be able to shovel coal into the boilers faster and better than the previous shoveler, but the captain is the problem. Said another way, a company's culture filters down from the top. If the owner(s) has that kind attitude, that would be a huge red flag to me not to work there. An owner like that usually doesn't like other people telling them what they need to do to right the ship.

I wish you luck, though.
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on August 29, 2021, 06:23:07 pm
It sounds like you're getting on the Titanic. You might be able to shovel coal into the boilers faster and better than the previous shoveler, but the captain is the problem. Said another way, a company's culture filters down from the top. If the owner(s) has that kind attitude, that would be a huge red flag to me not to work there. An owner like that usually doesn't like other people telling them what they need to do to right the ship.

I wish you luck, though.

You aren't wrong. I know the original founder/head brewer who was forced out similar to me at my brewery (difference is they actually gave him money).

I'm giving it 6 months. I'm in a unique position where I'm "sorta" retired. So while I want to make this succeed it won't hurt me financially if it doesn't.

It's a sweet brewery: 15 bbl Premiere Stainless (capable of 20) and a decent canning line. And I am in control of hiring staff and any other changes I want.Basically full control. Could be a sweet gig if I can pull them out of their current circumstances. But, yeah, ownership is part of the problem. The owner approached me and asked if I wanted to invest. LOL no f'n way dude. ;)
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Post by: chinaski on September 02, 2021, 05:03:57 pm
That is mighty brave of you to dive back in!  So sad to hear that they had the funds and organization to get started but couldn't attend to the little things like beer lines.  Even it they fail, I'll bet that you educate some folks that might continue on in the industry and learn to do things right.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on September 03, 2021, 06:14:35 am
They've been around for a while, actually. Since at least 2014, maybe earlier. It was more of a lackadaisical culture that got them in this mess (coupled with a "not-my-job" mentality). The owner wants to rescue at "all costs" so I think we can pull through. I'm actually pretty excited.

Now if I could just get that grain order to arrive that is days behind delivery.   ::)
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: denny on September 03, 2021, 08:32:00 am
You have my most sincere condolences. 😂
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on September 03, 2021, 07:07:15 pm
You have my most sincere condolences. 😂

Hahahahaha! There is a paycheck involved so it's not a total loss!
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: BrewNerd on September 15, 2021, 03:47:21 pm
Holy crap Vice...

You're a braver man than I.

I can understand the desire to "come to the rescue" and be the one that turns everything around. Glad to hear that you're cautiously wading into a scenario like that and not blinded by ego.

Sounds like a bit of a "Roadhouse" situation if you catch my drift. Be nice until it's time not to be nice...
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on September 21, 2021, 06:59:07 pm
Holy crap Vice...

You're a braver man than I.

I can understand the desire to "come to the rescue" and be the one that turns everything around. Glad to hear that you're cautiously wading into a scenario like that and not blinded by ego.

Sounds like a bit of a "Roadhouse" situation if you catch my drift. Be nice until it's time not to be nice...

Nope, it's a sweet place with two locations. Just a couple of previous brewers who were incompanent. Nice 20bbl Premier Stainless brewhouse and 30 bbl tanks. There is a 3.5 bll pilot brewhouse that has been shelved for reasons I won't go into.

Right now though, I am having glycol plumbing issues. Which are an utter nightmare. But I'm getting them solved.
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Post by: Thirsty_Monk on September 21, 2021, 08:45:48 pm
Holy crap Vice...

You're a braver man than I.

I can understand the desire to "come to the rescue" and be the one that turns everything around. Glad to hear that you're cautiously wading into a scenario like that and not blinded by ego.

Sounds like a bit of a "Roadhouse" situation if you catch my drift. Be nice until it's time not to be nice...

Nope, it's a sweet place with two locations. Just a couple of previous brewers who were incompanent. Nice 20bbl Premier Stainless brewhouse and 30 bbl tanks. There is a 3.5 bll pilot brewhouse that has been shelved for reasons I won't go into.

Right now though, I am having glycol plumbing issues. Which are an utter nightmare. But I'm getting them solved.
Just a question. Why would you have 20BBL brewhouse and 30BBL fermenters? It can act a little bit as an open fermenter but quite unusual set up.

Wishing you a success.
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on September 22, 2021, 05:30:31 am
Holy crap Vice...

You're a braver man than I.

I can understand the desire to "come to the rescue" and be the one that turns everything around. Glad to hear that you're cautiously wading into a scenario like that and not blinded by ego.

Sounds like a bit of a "Roadhouse" situation if you catch my drift. Be nice until it's time not to be nice...

Nope, it's a sweet place with two locations. Just a couple of previous brewers who were incompanent. Nice 20bbl Premier Stainless brewhouse and 30 bbl tanks. There is a 3.5 bll pilot brewhouse that has been shelved for reasons I won't go into.

Right now though, I am having glycol plumbing issues. Which are an utter nightmare. But I'm getting them solved.
Just a question. Why would you have 20BBL brewhouse and 30BBL fermenters? It can act a little bit as an open fermenter but quite unusual set up.

Wishing you a success.

I knew someone would call that out. ;) It's 20 bbl absolute max (with head space for boil still to still spare). I do 17.2 bbl and double, or 15 bbl double if the batch is higher gravity since the MT is a bit undersized. It's probably sold by Premier as a 15 bbl.

Two 17.2 bbl batches fit neatly in the 30 bbl tanks, but it's nice to have the option to do a full 20 of a 1.050ish beer.

Also, I didn't design the brewery! There are certainly things I would have done different but it's still nicer that a "road house" brewery or something hobbled together. It's a professional grade brewhouse.

There's also an MCI canning line that's not bad, though slower than I'm used to.

It's very local distribution so the pace isn't as frantic as the production brewery atmosphere. There's a cellarman and an assistant brewer, the latter my personal hire and a brewer that has worked for me before.

Right now this thing is touch and go. We are have to catch up from the previous brewer not wanting to produce so it's stressful, but I dig the atmosphere
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Post by: Thirsty_Monk on September 24, 2021, 08:00:14 pm
Sounds good. Wishing you a lot is success.
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on September 25, 2021, 09:28:20 am
Thanks! It actually feels good to be back in the business again. Been chasing down glycol and solenoid issues but the owner has been very understanding.

Feels weird to be a founder and still part owner of one brewery in town and working for a competing brewery but, hey, that's the way it ended up shaking out.
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Post by: ttash on October 08, 2021, 10:08:49 pm
Best of luck on your new endeavor. It takes courage and skill to rescue a brewery. In my experience, you'll know in 6 to 12 months if it's going to work out. And never be afraid to throw in the towel if you don't get cooperation and support from ownership.
Keep us posted. 🍺
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Post by: majorvices on October 09, 2021, 05:18:46 am
Best of luck on your new endeavor. It takes courage and skill to rescue a brewery. In my experience, you'll know in 6 to 12 months if it's going to work out. And never be afraid to throw in the towel if you don't get cooperation and support from ownership.
Keep us posted. 🍺

Thanks man. So far it has been a struggle. The previous brewer really, really made a mess of the place. This guy aded a junction in the glycol loop but used pipe dope instead of glue to weld the junctions.Not sure how anyone does that... so stupid. Had three of them blow over the course of three weeks. It was impossible to know without replacing the entire loop that they weren't glued. The plumber told when the second one blew he was going to have to replace the whole thing if it blew again ... and then it blew again at the third link in the junction. I convinced him that it was only not glued at that particular junction and he fixed it and it has held since -- after we wasted $1000 worth of glycol.

Then, the pipe dope floating around in the system fouled the solenoids so had to take each of those apart and clean. Didn't find this out until I had filled three tanks and the glycol was just bypassing the solenoids crashing everything. It was a nightmare but I finally managed to get two beers out of the tanks, into packaged and shipped. So finally, after months of bad leadership and incompetence, revenue coming in.

Unfortunately the previous brewer ignored the core brands and loaded the disrto up with his beers. These beers aren't selling so the distro has beer just sitting in the warehouse but had run out of the core brands until last week. Slots on the grocery store shelves have gone dry and taps at bars and restaurants have dried up. So we most likely lost shelf space and taps. There's no sales rep so guess I'll be hitting the streets to sell beer. Also working hard to reassure the distributor that things are different now and production is back on pace.

On top of all this there is a beautiful tap house in downtown Huntsville but no one was cleaning the tap lines. That was the very first thing I did and the lines were disgusting. Looked like jellyfish coming out of there. Absolutely horrifying. So that place is hemorrhaging money and mostly dead. Working on ways to fix that but it is going to take time to convince anyone to come back in there.

I told the owner it was going to take me 4 months to get the beer fixed and so far he is doing most of the right things. But there is outstanding debt that is going to be challenging to fix without a loan and so far there has been no loan. He is covering pay roll every two weeks, at least, so that helps a lot.

So we shall see! We are putting a restaurant in the down town location that will be run by experienced restaurant people so that should help hit the reset button down there. 
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: tommymorris on October 09, 2021, 05:22:29 am
Best of luck on your new endeavor. It takes courage and skill to rescue a brewery. In my experience, you'll know in 6 to 12 months if it's going to work out. And never be afraid to throw in the towel if you don't get cooperation and support from ownership.
Keep us posted.

Thanks man. So far it has been a struggle. The previous brewer really, really made a mess of the place. This guy aded a junction in the glycol loop butted pipe dope instead of glue to weld the junctions. Had three of them blow over the course of three weeks. It was is possible to know without replacing the entire loop. The plumber told me on the second one he was going to have to replace the whole thing if it blew again and it blew again. I convinced him that it was only at the one junction and he fixed it and it has held since -- after we wasted $1000 worth of glycol.

Then, the pipe dope floating around in the system fouled the solenoids so had to take each of those apart and clean. Didn't;t find this out until I had filled three tanks and the glycol was just bypassing the solenoids crashing everything.It was a night mare but I finally managed to get two beers out of the tanks, into packaged and shipped. So finally, after 3 months, revenue coming in.

Unfortunately the previous brewer ignored the core brands (there's only really 2 core brands the brewery ships to the distributor) and loaded the disrto up with his beers. This beers aren't selling so the distro has beer just sitting in the warehouse while none of the core brands until last week. Slots on the grocery store shelves have gone dry and taps at bars and restaurants have dried up. So we most likely lost shelf space and taps. There's no sales rep so guess I'll be hitting the streets to sell beer. Also working hard to reassure the distributor.

On top of all this there is a beautiful tap house in dawn town Huntsville but no one was cleaning the lines. That was the very first thing I did and the lines were disgusting. Looked like jellyfish coming out of there. Absolutely horrifying. So that place is hemorrhaging money and mostly dead. Working on ways to fix that but it is going to take time to convince anyone to come back in there.

I told the owner it was going to take me 4 months to get the beer fixed and so far he is doing most of the right thing. But there is outstanding debt that is going to be challenging to fix without a loan and so far there has been no loan. He is covering pay roll every two weeks.

So we shall see! We are putting a restaurant in the down town location that will be run by experienced restaurant people so that should help hit the reset button down there.
Oh my!
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on October 09, 2021, 05:25:53 am
Oh Tommy, it's even worse than that. That only touches on the highlights. This is like the trailer for Dune. The real problems are like the first three books.  :P
Title: Well, here we go again.
Post by: BrewBama on October 09, 2021, 07:08:21 am
Alert the beer nerds: send up the bat signal!  new head brewer

I get a Free the Hops newsletter that tells me what is happening at the beer venues around. I rarely see HSV breweries listed and when I do it’s usually Mad Malt with some unknown garage band or STA drag queen night. Cahaba is always in there with stuff happening most nights. Announce the new direction and get some sort of promotion night at the Tap House. Trivia night, ladies night, a (good) band, costume party, hot fresh peanuts, or something.  The first one ought to be “Come meet the new head brewer” — and talk about your brewing philosophy and about the renewed focus on fresh clean honest beer with the customers.

Emphasize the fresh beers on clean taps and specialty ingredient.  Post a “Taps cleaned on X day” sign over the bar. When the waitress or bartenders talk about the beers ensure they know when it was brewed and tell the story — put the date each beer was brewed on the menu. Customer; “I’d like a X” Bartender points to the menu; “Awesome choice.  That beer was brewed on X and cold lagered for X. The recipe includes X specialty ingredient. It has a crisp clean taste. It’s one of my favorites since the brewery hired a new head brewer with his refocus on fresh ingredients. I think you’re gonna like it.”  Customer back in a few for a refill, Bartender asks; “What did you think of that X?”  Want another?  Hey, you might like this Y beer. It was brewed Y and is a favorite of the new head brewer. He uses Y specialty ingredient in it.”

Next thing you know this guy is posting on the brewery Facebook page about the awesome knowledgeable staff, the fresh beers, and happening event where he met the new head brewer. Have a link to the posts scrolling across the menu monitor in the tap house to spur on more people to post.

Invite the food folks at the paper and TV stations to come in and see the venue and write about the renewed focus the new head brewer has on the basics of good honest beer served in a clean well respected historic place.  Get them to post a story on their websites.

I know you know all this. You need a sales guy to coach the staff and promote the place.

We’re pulling for you!



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Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on October 09, 2021, 07:32:49 am
Thanks Dwayne!Excellent suggestion every single one. None of my beers are even so yet so I am holding off any major promotions of my beer until they are. Not all the beers on draft are bad, some actually really good. I've had to pull some nasty ones off but now that the lines are clean the beers taste good again. Just have to convince people. They have a Trivia night at the down town location that does well. The bands were actually becoming  problem because it cost more to get the bands in then they were making off tap sales. We are going to hit the reset button on the Down Town location after the first of the year. I'm goin to get a beer engine and do some proper firkins and have some good European style beer on tap along with some IPAs and do a "meet the brewer" night. I'm looking forward to seeing you and Tommy there.  ;D
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Post by: Big_Eight on October 09, 2021, 09:14:48 am
Oh man, a beer engine and firkin. Hell yeah!
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Post by: ScallyWag on October 09, 2021, 12:14:48 pm
Wow.  These last dozen or so posts have been a fascinating insight into the world of commercial brewing.  As a homebrewer who has fantasized about dipping my toes into the commercial side, this is enlightening (and frightening) to read. 

There are a few local commercial craft brewers that I chat with occasionally re: recipes and such, but this is just humbling, reinforcing how much I don't know about the industry.

Best of luck [/skill!] to you in making this work out successfully.  I'm rooting for you.
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Post by: denny on October 09, 2021, 01:42:21 pm
The more I learned, the less I wanted to be a commercial brewer.
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Post by: BrewBama on October 09, 2021, 01:55:14 pm
Oh man, a beer engine and firkin. Hell yeah!
+1. Firkin Fridays!
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Post by: RC on October 09, 2021, 02:21:52 pm
The more I learned, the less I wanted to be a commercial brewer.

And the longer I was a commercial brewer, the less I wanted to stay one. Very glad to have put that world behind me, at least from a career standpoint.
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Post by: denny on October 09, 2021, 02:23:37 pm
The more I learned, the less I wanted to be a commercial brewer.

And the longer I was a commercial brewer, the less I wanted to stay one. Very glad to have put that world behind me, at least from a career standpoint.

I think maybe it happens with anything you love that you start doing as a job.  At least that's what happened to me several times.
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Post by: Big_Eight on October 09, 2021, 04:14:22 pm
The more I learned, the less I wanted to be a commercial brewer.

And the longer I was a commercial brewer, the less I wanted to stay one. Very glad to have put that world behind me, at least from a career standpoint.

I think maybe it happens with anything you love that you start doing as a job.  At least that's what happened to me several times.
That's what scares me. I have a few hobbies and I think about the what if I did this commercially and then I get worried it will make me hate what I love to do and I steer clear.
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Post by: denny on October 09, 2021, 04:22:41 pm
The more I learned, the less I wanted to be a commercial brewer.

And the longer I was a commercial brewer, the less I wanted to stay one. Very glad to have put that world behind me, at least from a career standpoint.

I think maybe it happens with anything you love that you start doing as a job.  At least that's what happened to me several times.
That's what scares me. I have a few hobbies and I think about the what if I did this commercially and then I get worried it will make me hate what I love to do and I steer clear.

For 30 years I owned and ran a recording studio.  We wrote and recorded music and sound effects for film and video.  My dream life when it started.  By the time we closed it down, it was just another job that I had to go to every day.  And it pretty much killed my love of music.   Now, that doesn't happen to everyone, but it's not rare either.
Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: majorvices on October 09, 2021, 05:54:44 pm
Homebrew is fun and commercial brewing is work. I just happen to enjoy that work. I am particularly enjoying this challenge. Yes, I get it isn't for everyone. But I love it.
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Post by: Megary on October 09, 2021, 07:27:50 pm
Homebrew is fun and commercial brewing is work. I just happen to enjoy that work. I am particularly enjoying this challenge. Yes, I get it isn't for everyone. But I love it.

All the best.

Don’t listen to the negative waves. Do what you love.
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Post by: ttash on October 09, 2021, 10:25:55 pm
FWIW, brewing is my second career. I used to be a mechanical designer working for medical laser companies in Silicon Valley. I burned out on it and ended up hating my job.
I started homebrewing and fell in love with it. So I took a job in a brewery before finding out enough to dissuade me, thankfully, because I still enjoy my work 23 years later. Sure, there's been ups and downs, and breweries that I didn't like working for, but overall it's been very satisfying work and I'm in a sweet situation now.
I realize its not for everyone, to each their own, but for me it's what I'm passionate about. And I still brew at home, because it's still fun, and is totally, completely different than brewing commercially. My lovely wife thinks I'm obsessed, I think she just needs another beer. 🍺
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Post by: majorvices on October 10, 2021, 05:45:33 am
This is my fourth brewing job and 3rd stint as Head Brewer. My first brewing job was the brewery I started. I got screwed out of that job by a greedy-control freak partner who became GM. Even though I was the second largest shareholder he was on the board with the largest shareholder and he basically took total control of the company. That was a 10 year endeavor building a company from scratch. I am unfortunately still a shareholder there because they won't make me a legitimate offer to buy me out. It is really weird to be working locally for a brewery that competes against a brewery you starter and partially own. I spend 5K to be removed from my fiduciary duties of that company so no threat of suit as long as I don't brew the same recipes. All the award winning recipes and the core flagship recipes at that company are mine. So that part of the business I don't like but that could be a part of any business.

I'm really loving this new job, I just hope I can save the company without it folding. I'm at the age where I need to be the boss, not the worker bee. I definitely work, don't get me wrong. But I have a crew (a cellar guy and a brewer) who do most of the heavy work. I still brew, clean kegs on occasion, mop the floors, help on the canning line. I even climb a ladder from time to time. But I enjoy being more on the conductor side.

And I still homebrew too. Because it is fun!
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Post by: ttash on October 10, 2021, 06:05:54 am
And lest you think that all I do is think about, read about, and talk about brewing, I'm a lifelong musician. Playing in bands since I was in high school, some of them very good. I still play on a regular basis because it's still fun, plus they give us money at the end of the night.

I'll keep playing drums and brewing beer as long as it's still fun, and when it's not I'll probably retire and go fishing. 🍺
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Post by: ynotbrusum on October 12, 2021, 02:03:47 pm
Best of luck, Keith.  I remember hearing such good things about your beers at YH.  I hope that you can brew the styles you want, even if that directly competes with the old recipes.  So many beers are basic recipes, so I don't know how they could claim your new ones as a copy of the simplest styles, if you were to brew them using somewhat different grist components, but be careful to make them new to you.  Brew good beer and they will come!  Cheers to your phoenix endeavor.

 
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Post by: BrewBama on October 14, 2021, 01:13:23 pm
Now we’re talkin:

https://whnt.com/news/huntsville/a-new-craft-beer-trail-is-launching-in-honor-of-nasas-artemis-program

Here’s that Free the Hops newsletter:

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Title: Re: Well, here we go again.
Post by: brewthru on October 14, 2021, 02:21:44 pm
Isn't "Bar Rescue" a show on TV ;-) I know I've seen it in the channel guide.