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Title: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on May 26, 2022, 09:25:40 am
So, here goes, what do you guys think? 

10lbs of Xtra Pale Malt
1lb of Wheat Malt
10oz Crystal 40l
10oz Crystal 20l

Hops I am still not sure of.  But here is what I am thinking:

.5 oz Chinook at 60 mins
1oz Cascade at 15
1oz Columbus at 15
1oz Cascade at 0
1oz Columbus at 0
2oz Cascade Dry hop after fermentation has slowed for about 5 days

Yeast is going to be BRY 97 (cause that is what I have on hand).  I might try the starter idea again, but since this is dry yeast I don't think I have to, right? 

Mash at 152 for 60 mins then sparge at 170 with remainder to make up about 6.25 or so gallons
60 mins boil and I might add the hops at 0 and up the temp a bit and do a steep with them for 15 to 20 mins. 

This batch will be bottled, so my plan is to bottle say in about a week or so and then let sit in the closet for another week or two to get carbed and maybe age a bit. 

Any thoughts on this?  Any suggestions?  Am I way off base on this one?  I have a few more extra ingredients including Melaniod (sp?)  LOL  and Carapils, but I think this is a pretty good start based on what I have read.  I am thinking this is more of an Ale than an IPA. 

Numbers in Brewfather are as follows:

OG. 1.058
FG. 1.011
ABV 6.2
IBU 60
Mash water 5.33 gallons
Sparge Water 2.11 gallons
Pre Boil Volume 6.28 gallons 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: Megary on May 26, 2022, 09:45:09 am
I like it.  I think it will make a great beer.

Just make sure fermentation is complete before you bottle.

Good luck!
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on May 26, 2022, 09:54:32 am
Recipe looks OK to me. Now explain to me why you used each ingredient.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: Iliff Ave on May 26, 2022, 10:03:11 am
Looks great! Kind of old school IPA. Wheat isn't necessary but won't hurt anything at the same time. I've seen a ton of commercial WC IPAs that list wheat as an ingredient.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on May 26, 2022, 05:58:25 pm
Recipe looks OK to me. Now explain to me why you used each ingredient.

Partially because I have it and thought I would give it a try.  Other part is, I did some looking at hop characteristics and was looking for something a bit more on the citrus end.  And from what I read the Cascade foots that bill.  Also, I have Cascade growing in my backyard, so I wanted to try and get a go to recipe that would use them, Chinook and Columbus. 

Really, the bottom line is I have the ingredients listed, so I thought I would give it a go using what I have and doing a less bitter beer then an IPA
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on May 27, 2022, 10:20:20 am
Recipe looks OK to me. Now explain to me why you used each ingredient.

Partially because I have it and thought I would give it a try.  Other part is, I did some looking at hop characteristics and was looking for something a bit more on the citrus end.  And from what I read the Cascade foots that bill.  Also, I have Cascade growing in my backyard, so I wanted to try and get a go to recipe that would use them, Chinook and Columbus. 

Really, the bottom line is I have the ingredients listed, so I thought I would give it a go using what I have and doing a less bitter beer then an IPA

I was more interested in an explanation of the grist than the hops
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on May 27, 2022, 10:58:20 am
Recipe looks OK to me. Now explain to me why you used each ingredient.

Partially because I have it and thought I would give it a try.  Other part is, I did some looking at hop characteristics and was looking for something a bit more on the citrus end.  And from what I read the Cascade foots that bill.  Also, I have Cascade growing in my backyard, so I wanted to try and get a go to recipe that would use them, Chinook and Columbus. 

Really, the bottom line is I have the ingredients listed, so I thought I would give it a go using what I have and doing a less bitter beer then an IPA

I was more interested in an explanation of the grist than the hops

Oh, OK.  Again, mostly because I have it and want to try and use it.  From the recipes I have used, the 40l and 20l seem to be pretty popular in smaller amounts.  So, I thought, OK,, let's try it.  So I plugged it into Brewfather and tried to get a lower ABV while still keeping a more amber or mid range color.  In a past post, most have warned me against using Melanoid (SP?) so I kept that out.  I have read the wheat aspect is good for the head retention, and again, I have it so what the heck.  I am trying to get a more Pale Ale type brew as most all I have done have been IPA, or at least attempts at them.  So, my thought was, this grain bill seems to be more common in the Pale Ale so why not give it a shot.  I have the Melanoid and some Carapils left over as well, and was toying with using the Cara, but opted out because I felt I had enough using the 20 and 40l. 

Any suggestions are welcomed and if my logic is flawed please say so.  But, I thought why not give it a go. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: Megary on May 27, 2022, 11:18:07 am
Don't overthink it.   Your recipe in the original post will make a great beer.

No need for the melanoidin or carapils.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on May 27, 2022, 11:41:42 am
Don't overthink it.   Your recipe in the original post will make a great beer.

No need for the melanoidin or carapils.

Thanks, gonna give it a try and see what happens.  LOL. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on May 27, 2022, 12:21:27 pm
Recipe looks OK to me. Now explain to me why you used each ingredient.

Partially because I have it and thought I would give it a try.  Other part is, I did some looking at hop characteristics and was looking for something a bit more on the citrus end.  And from what I read the Cascade foots that bill.  Also, I have Cascade growing in my backyard, so I wanted to try and get a go to recipe that would use them, Chinook and Columbus. 

Really, the bottom line is I have the ingredients listed, so I thought I would give it a go using what I have and doing a less bitter beer then an IPA

I was more interested in an explanation of the grist than the hops

Oh, OK.  Again, mostly because I have it and want to try and use it.  From the recipes I have used, the 40l and 20l seem to be pretty popular in smaller amounts.  So, I thought, OK,, let's try it.  So I plugged it into Brewfather and tried to get a lower ABV while still keeping a more amber or mid range color.  In a past post, most have warned me against using Melanoid (SP?) so I kept that out.  I have read the wheat aspect is good for the head retention, and again, I have it so what the heck.  I am trying to get a more Pale Ale type brew as most all I have done have been IPA, or at least attempts at them.  So, my thought was, this grain bill seems to be more common in the Pale Ale so why not give it a shot.  I have the Melanoid and some Carapils left over as well, and was toying with using the Cara, but opted out because I felt I had enough using the 20 and 40l. 

Any suggestions are welcomed and if my logic is flawed please say so.  But, I thought why not give it a go.

I was wondering about the intent between both crystal malts.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: Iliff Ave on May 27, 2022, 03:18:31 pm
Don't overthink it.   Your recipe in the original post will make a great beer.

No need for the melanoidin or carapils.

Thanks, gonna give it a try and see what happens.  LOL.

+1 Brew it!!!
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on May 27, 2022, 07:02:56 pm
Recipe looks OK to me. Now explain to me why you used each ingredient.

Partially because I have it and thought I would give it a try.  Other part is, I did some looking at hop characteristics and was looking for something a bit more on the citrus end.  And from what I read the Cascade foots that bill.  Also, I have Cascade growing in my backyard, so I wanted to try and get a go to recipe that would use them, Chinook and Columbus. 

Really, the bottom line is I have the ingredients listed, so I thought I would give it a go using what I have and doing a less bitter beer then an IPA

I was more interested in an explanation of the grist than the hops

Oh, OK.  Again, mostly because I have it and want to try and use it.  From the recipes I have used, the 40l and 20l seem to be pretty popular in smaller amounts.  So, I thought, OK,, let's try it.  So I plugged it into Brewfather and tried to get a lower ABV while still keeping a more amber or mid range color.  In a past post, most have warned me against using Melanoid (SP?) so I kept that out.  I have read the wheat aspect is good for the head retention, and again, I have it so what the heck.  I am trying to get a more Pale Ale type brew as most all I have done have been IPA, or at least attempts at them.  So, my thought was, this grain bill seems to be more common in the Pale Ale so why not give it a shot.  I have the Melanoid and some Carapils left over as well, and was toying with using the Cara, but opted out because I felt I had enough using the 20 and 40l. 

Any suggestions are welcomed and if my logic is flawed please say so.  But, I thought why not give it a go.

I was wondering about the intent between both crystal malts.

Is it a bad thing to have them both?  Asking in all seriousness.  My idea was that I saw enough of the recipes to think this would give it the color and a bit of flavor that would cross from the IPA to the Pale ale, but I am just reaching for what might be good.  Am I off base? 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: Kevin on May 28, 2022, 06:32:04 am
Recipe looks OK to me. Now explain to me why you used each ingredient.

Partially because I have it and thought I would give it a try.  Other part is, I did some looking at hop characteristics and was looking for something a bit more on the citrus end.  And from what I read the Cascade foots that bill.  Also, I have Cascade growing in my backyard, so I wanted to try and get a go to recipe that would use them, Chinook and Columbus. 

Really, the bottom line is I have the ingredients listed, so I thought I would give it a go using what I have and doing a less bitter beer then an IPA

I was more interested in an explanation of the grist than the hops

Oh, OK.  Again, mostly because I have it and want to try and use it.  From the recipes I have used, the 40l and 20l seem to be pretty popular in smaller amounts.  So, I thought, OK,, let's try it.  So I plugged it into Brewfather and tried to get a lower ABV while still keeping a more amber or mid range color.  In a past post, most have warned me against using Melanoid (SP?) so I kept that out.  I have read the wheat aspect is good for the head retention, and again, I have it so what the heck.  I am trying to get a more Pale Ale type brew as most all I have done have been IPA, or at least attempts at them.  So, my thought was, this grain bill seems to be more common in the Pale Ale so why not give it a shot.  I have the Melanoid and some Carapils left over as well, and was toying with using the Cara, but opted out because I felt I had enough using the 20 and 40l. 

Any suggestions are welcomed and if my logic is flawed please say so.  But, I thought why not give it a go.

I was wondering about the intent between both crystal malts.

Is it a bad thing to have them both?  Asking in all seriousness.  My idea was that I saw enough of the recipes to think this would give it the color and a bit of flavor that would cross from the IPA to the Pale ale, but I am just reaching for what might be good.  Am I off base?

Denny has a saying... and I'm paraphrasing... use as many ingredients as you want as long as each of them has a purpose. That's what he's getting out. Do you have a purpose for each of those grains or are you just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on May 28, 2022, 08:21:49 am
Recipe looks OK to me. Now explain to me why you used each ingredient.

Partially because I have it and thought I would give it a try.  Other part is, I did some looking at hop characteristics and was looking for something a bit more on the citrus end.  And from what I read the Cascade foots that bill.  Also, I have Cascade growing in my backyard, so I wanted to try and get a go to recipe that would use them, Chinook and Columbus. 

Really, the bottom line is I have the ingredients listed, so I thought I would give it a go using what I have and doing a less bitter beer then an IPA

I was more interested in an explanation of the grist than the hops

Oh, OK.  Again, mostly because I have it and want to try and use it.  From the recipes I have used, the 40l and 20l seem to be pretty popular in smaller amounts.  So, I thought, OK,, let's try it.  So I plugged it into Brewfather and tried to get a lower ABV while still keeping a more amber or mid range color.  In a past post, most have warned me against using Melanoid (SP?) so I kept that out.  I have read the wheat aspect is good for the head retention, and again, I have it so what the heck.  I am trying to get a more Pale Ale type brew as most all I have done have been IPA, or at least attempts at them.  So, my thought was, this grain bill seems to be more common in the Pale Ale so why not give it a shot.  I have the Melanoid and some Carapils left over as well, and was toying with using the Cara, but opted out because I felt I had enough using the 20 and 40l. 

Any suggestions are welcomed and if my logic is flawed please say so.  But, I thought why not give it a go.

I was wondering about the intent between both crystal malts.

Is it a bad thing to have them both?  Asking in all seriousness.  My idea was that I saw enough of the recipes to think this would give it the color and a bit of flavor that would cross from the IPA to the Pale ale, but I am just reaching for what might be good.  Am I off base?

Denny has a saying... and I'm paraphrasing... use as many ingredients as you want as long as each of them has a purpose. That's what he's getting out. Do you have a purpose for each of those grains or are you just throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks.

Oh, got it.  LOL.  Partly both.  I have read and seen that some recipes use both, and since I have them I figure I would try.  In all honesty I have a recipe with both in the amounts listed but not the wheat or the Xtra pale malt, so I figured I would just kinda go with it.  Today is the day I brew it, so we will see.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: Megary on May 28, 2022, 08:50:05 am
Best way to learn is to brew!

Your beer will turn out great.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on May 28, 2022, 02:43:57 pm
Best way to learn is to brew!

Your beer will turn out great.

And we begin!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on May 29, 2022, 08:27:37 am
Ok.  Not sure what I did wrong.  Beer is inthe fermenter and has been for about 12 hours.  No activity out of the airlock.  No bubbling.  I used Bry97 and cooled the wort to about 80 degrees.  One packet and stirred it up a bit after I pitched it.  The closet the bucket is in is at about 70 degrees.  What did I do wrong? 

I have another packet of yeast I might throw in there to see what happens.  My numbers were good

Any suggestions would be appreciated
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on May 29, 2022, 08:33:57 am
Ok.  Not sure what I did wrong.  Beer is inthe fermenter and has been for about 12 hours.  No activity out of the airlock.  No bubbling.  I used Bry97 and cooled the wort to about 80 degrees.  One packet and stirred it up a bit after I pitched it.  The closet the bucket is in is at about 70 degrees.  What did I do wrong? 

I have another packet of yeast I might throw in there to see what happens.  My numbers were good

Any suggestions would be appreciated

You didn't do anything wrong.  You're just impatient. I wouldn't have pitched at that temp, but it didn't interfere with fermentation.  Sit down and wait. Also, no need to stir after pitching the yeast.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on May 29, 2022, 09:54:16 am
Ok.  Not sure what I did wrong.  Beer is inthe fermenter and has been for about 12 hours.  No activity out of the airlock.  No bubbling.  I used Bry97 and cooled the wort to about 80 degrees.  One packet and stirred it up a bit after I pitched it.  The closet the bucket is in is at about 70 degrees.  What did I do wrong? 

I have another packet of yeast I might throw in there to see what happens.  My numbers were good

Any suggestions would be appreciated

You didn't do anything wrong.  You're just impatient. I wouldn't have pitched at that temp, but it didn't interfere with fermentation.  Sit down and wait. Also, no need to stir after pitching the yeast.

Thanks Denny, you are absolutely right, patience is not one of my strong points.  This is my first time using this yeast, and the others started bubbling within 5 to 6 hours.  Your yeast took off like a rocket and was really going within just a few hours, so I guess I am just overthinking it.  I got nowhere to go, so in the closet it sits  That closet usually keeps a pretty nice consistent temp in the low 70's high 60's.  Thanks again for the inut, I a still learning and patience is one of my weak spots.  LOL.  RR
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on May 29, 2022, 10:59:48 am
Ok.  Not sure what I did wrong.  Beer is inthe fermenter and has been for about 12 hours.  No activity out of the airlock.  No bubbling.  I used Bry97 and cooled the wort to about 80 degrees.  One packet and stirred it up a bit after I pitched it.  The closet the bucket is in is at about 70 degrees.  What did I do wrong? 

I have another packet of yeast I might throw in there to see what happens.  My numbers were good

Any suggestions would be appreciated

You didn't do anything wrong.  You're just impatient. I wouldn't have pitched at that temp, but it didn't interfere with fermentation.  Sit down and wait. Also, no need to stir after pitching the yeast.

Thanks Denny, you are absolutely right, patience is not one of my strong points.  This is my first time using this yeast, and the others started bubbling within 5 to 6 hours.  Your yeast took off like a rocket and was really going within just a few hours, so I guess I am just overthinking it.  I got nowhere to go, so in the closet it sits  That closet usually keeps a pretty nice consistent temp in the low 70's high 60's.  Thanks again for the inut, I a still learning and patience is one of my weak spots.  LOL.  RR

I don't even start getting concerned til 48 hours and don't take corrective action til 72.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on May 30, 2022, 10:32:16 pm
And of course as it always happens, I posted about no activity and within two or three hours it took off and is going well.  Closet has maintained temp anywhere between 68 to 72 degrees, so I think I am good.  Gonna let it do it's thing and once fermentation slows I will add the dry hop bag and let that go for 3 or 4 days.  Check gravity and prepare for bottling.  My guess is bottling will be done sometime late next week.  Patience is a virtue.  LOL. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 02, 2022, 11:11:59 am
So far, numbers are:

OG 1.050 into the fermenter
Gravity after about 5 days fermenting 1.016
I am going to check it again tomorrow and see if the gravity number is the same.  If so, I am going to drop my dry hops in and let them go for about 4 to 5 days.  Pull the hop bag and then plan on bottling next weekend.  The color is not bad, little lighter than I expected.  The gravity numbers were a little on the light side.  Per Brewfather, my OG should have been about 1.055 and my final gravity should have been in the 1.011.  Checking my ABV it seems it is about 4.5%   Far cry from the 6% Brewfather said I was supposed to have.  But I am more about the taste than the ABV, so we will see how that goes.  RR
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 05, 2022, 05:56:48 am
I went to check it and low and behold we still have some bubbling a week later.  It is not huge, but a small burb every 10 seconds or so.  I am going to leave it be until tomorrow and add my dry hops in a bag.  This is pretty cool as this is the longest I have seen bubbling in a beer I have done.  Updates to follow. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: ScallyWag on June 05, 2022, 07:57:15 am
Well, that's not necessarily a bad thing that it's apparently still chugging.  Your earlier gravity check was showing an apparent attenuation of only 68%, which seems too low for BRY-97 to be a final gravity, even with that much crystal malt.  I'm glad you gave it more time. 

I hope it's a great beer.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on June 05, 2022, 08:14:49 am
I went to check it and low and behold we still have some bubbling a week later.  It is not huge, but a small burb every 10 seconds or so.  I am going to leave it be until tomorrow and add my dry hops in a bag.  This is pretty cool as this is the longest I have seen bubbling in a beer I have done.  Updates to follow.

Take a gravity reading
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 08, 2022, 08:13:14 pm
Ok. So this is weird.  I just checked my gravity and it went up?   From 1.016 to 1.019.  That doesn't make sense.  Isn't it supposed to go down?   I put my dry hops in.  I will check it again on Saturday.  In a positive note, my brothers is the same as it was a few days ago.  So we will bottle his Saturday.  I'm gonna have mine some more time.  I'm thinking maybe I miss measured?  My ABV is only at like 4.5 or so.  Seems low. But we will see 

I just keep wondering if I'm really meant to do this. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 12, 2022, 12:11:55 pm
Today is bottling day.  The dry hops have been in for about 4 days now, so I think that should be enough time to get what is needed out of them.  I put them in a hop bag this time to cut down on the crap that ends up at the bottom of the fermenter.  I figure a week or two in the closet at about 70 degrees, then put a few in the fridge for a week and see what I got.  More to come. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on June 12, 2022, 12:17:18 pm
Today is bottling day.  The dry hops have been in for about 4 days now, so I think that should be enough time to get what is needed out of them.  I put them in a hop bag this time to cut down on the crap that ends up at the bottom of the fermenter.  I figure a week or two in the closet at about 70 degrees, then put a few in the fridge for a week and see what I got.  More to come.

24 hours is enough.  After that they start reabsorbing the oils.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 12, 2022, 02:29:05 pm
Today is bottling day.  The dry hops have been in for about 4 days now, so I think that should be enough time to get what is needed out of them.  I put them in a hop bag this time to cut down on the crap that ends up at the bottom of the fermenter.  I figure a week or two in the closet at about 70 degrees, then put a few in the fridge for a week and see what I got.  More to come.

24 hours is enough.  After that they start reabsorbing the oils.

This time it is pellets, but thanks.  I will try and remember that.  Also, I checked the gravity, and it is down to 1.012 or 1.011.  I think I am going to keep it on the counter today, it is a warm day, probably about 70 or so inside.  This is the number I was looking for though.  So I am pretty happy so far.  But the taste test is where the rubber meets the road, so to speak.  Updates to follow. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on June 12, 2022, 04:05:21 pm
Today is bottling day.  The dry hops have been in for about 4 days now, so I think that should be enough time to get what is needed out of them.  I put them in a hop bag this time to cut down on the crap that ends up at the bottom of the fermenter.  I figure a week or two in the closet at about 70 degrees, then put a few in the fridge for a week and see what I got.  More to come.

24 hours is enough.  After that they start reabsorbing the oils.

This time it is pellets, but thanks.  I will try and remember that.  Also, I checked the gravity, and it is down to 1.012 or 1.011.  I think I am going to keep it on the counter today, it is a warm day, probably about 70 or so inside.  This is the number I was looking for though.  So I am pretty happy so far.  But the taste test is where the rubber meets the road, so to speak.  Updates to follow.

Same with pellets or whole
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 12, 2022, 04:26:47 pm
Today is bottling day.  The dry hops have been in for about 4 days now, so I think that should be enough time to get what is needed out of them.  I put them in a hop bag this time to cut down on the crap that ends up at the bottom of the fermenter.  I figure a week or two in the closet at about 70 degrees, then put a few in the fridge for a week and see what I got.  More to come.

24 hours is enough.  After that they start reabsorbing the oils.

This time it is pellets, but thanks.  I will try and remember that.  Also, I checked the gravity, and it is down to 1.012 or 1.011.  I think I am going to keep it on the counter today, it is a warm day, probably about 70 or so inside.  This is the number I was looking for though.  So I am pretty happy so far.  But the taste test is where the rubber meets the road, so to speak.  Updates to follow.

Same with pellets or whole

Good to know.  I will pull the bag out. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 13, 2022, 10:47:39 am
Today is bottling day.  The dry hops have been in for about 4 days now, so I think that should be enough time to get what is needed out of them.  I put them in a hop bag this time to cut down on the crap that ends up at the bottom of the fermenter.  I figure a week or two in the closet at about 70 degrees, then put a few in the fridge for a week and see what I got.  More to come.

24 hours is enough.  After that they start reabsorbing the oils.

This time it is pellets, but thanks.  I will try and remember that.  Also, I checked the gravity, and it is down to 1.012 or 1.011.  I think I am going to keep it on the counter today, it is a warm day, probably about 70 or so inside.  This is the number I was looking for though.  So I am pretty happy so far.  But the taste test is where the rubber meets the road, so to speak.  Updates to follow.

I am a bit confused by your statement above.  Didn't you say at one point that it is best to leave the hops in for 3 or 4 days?  I am not trying to call you out or cause any problems.  Just trying to figure this out.  I am going to pull the bag today as this would be day 4 anyway, but just curious what I should do. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 13, 2022, 10:52:02 am
And of course, as it always goes., my plan was to bottle today after wanting to do it yesterday but seeing some bubbling out of the airlock.  I open the closet door only to find it bubbling still.  Not much, but still doing it.  I am going to take a gravity reading in a bit to see where I am.  If I am still at 1.011 I will bottle as this is what it was yesterday.  If it still shows signs of going down, then I will leave it be another day or two. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 14, 2022, 08:36:05 pm
18 Days in the Fermenter and it still seems to be bubbling along, about a bubble every 8 to 10 seconds.  I have never had one go this long.  Is this normal for Bry97 yeast?  The closet I have the bucket in gets anywhere between 65 to 75 degrees during that time and I just checked it and it is bubbling more now than it was earlier today.  I am happy, because this means things are still moving in the right direction, but to be honest,, none of the yeast I have used so far have gone this long.  Any input would be welcomed.  RR
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 14, 2022, 08:54:04 pm
Pulled the hop bag and took a quick gravity reading.  Down to 1.009 or so.  I will leave it be for another day or two and see where we are.  I am not in a rush this time.  RR
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 15, 2022, 11:05:28 am
Still bubbling along.  This thread has gone quite a while, so I am guessing no more comments or input is forthcoming.  No worries guys, you have all been incredibly helpful.  Gonna let this run a little more.  Don't want to bottle if the yeast is still doing it's thing. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on June 15, 2022, 12:51:03 pm
Still bubbling along.  This thread has gone quite a while, so I am guessing no more comments or input is forthcoming.  No worries guys, you have all been incredibly helpful.  Gonna let this run a little more.  Don't want to bottle if the yeast is still doing it's thing.

The bubbles are telling you nothing at this point.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 15, 2022, 01:26:25 pm
Still bubbling along.  This thread has gone quite a while, so I am guessing no more comments or input is forthcoming.  No worries guys, you have all been incredibly helpful.  Gonna let this run a little more.  Don't want to bottle if the yeast is still doing it's thing.

The bubbles are telling you nothing at this point.

I thought the bubbling was the yeast doing it's thing?  I will take another gravity reading today or tomorrow and see where I am.  If it is close to where it was the other day, it is going into bottles.  Thanks Denny.  I am still learning so this was something new for me. 
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on June 15, 2022, 02:03:01 pm
Still bubbling along.  This thread has gone quite a while, so I am guessing no more comments or input is forthcoming.  No worries guys, you have all been incredibly helpful.  Gonna let this run a little more.  Don't want to bottle if the yeast is still doing it's thing.

The bubbles are telling you nothing at this point.

I thought the bubbling was the yeast doing it's thing?  I will take another gravity reading today or tomorrow and see where I am.  If it is close to where it was the other day, it is going into bottles.  Thanks Denny.  I am still learning so this was something new for me.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. What you're seeing now is likely dissolved CO2 coming out of solution, not fermentation.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 15, 2022, 05:50:20 pm
Still bubbling along.  This thread has gone quite a while, so I am guessing no more comments or input is forthcoming.  No worries guys, you have all been incredibly helpful.  Gonna let this run a little more.  Don't want to bottle if the yeast is still doing it's thing.

The bubbles are telling you nothing at this point.

I thought the bubbling was the yeast doing it's thing?  I will take another gravity reading today or tomorrow and see where I am.  If it is close to where it was the other day, it is going into bottles.  Thanks Denny.  I am still learning so this was something new for me.

Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. What you're seeing now is likely dissolved CO2 coming out of solution, not fermentation.

Awesome.   Thank you.  Gonna go into bottles tomorrow then unless you think I should wait a bit longer for the CO2 to dissipate.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: ynotbrusum on June 16, 2022, 08:57:47 am
If the CO2 off gassing is minimal, you should have no problem in bottling; I have tried to bottle while there is a lot of CO2 still being produced (early spund, essentially) and the tubing had trouble holding a siphon in that instance - slow racking out, but it still worked...for what it is worth.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 16, 2022, 10:20:07 am
If the CO2 off gassing is minimal, you should have no problem in bottling; I have tried to bottle while there is a lot of CO2 still being produced (early spund, essentially) and the tubing had trouble holding a siphon in that instance - slow racking out, but it still worked...for what it is worth.

Thanks.  I will certainly watch for that.  I am going to check gravity in a bit, and with any luck, it will be in bottles by lunch time.  LOL
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 25, 2022, 12:58:03 pm
Tasting day.  I had two extra bottles that did not fit in the 12 pack containers I used to store the bottles, so after about a week in the closet they went in the fridge to get cold.  Countdown to tasting in 3 mins.  LOL
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: Megary on June 25, 2022, 04:57:34 pm
Tasting day.  I had two extra bottles that did not fit in the 12 pack containers I used to store the bottles, so after about a week in the closet they went in the fridge to get cold.  Countdown to tasting in 3 mins.  LOL

A little early, no?  I’d be surprised if they were properly carbonated after only a week.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: Richard on June 25, 2022, 07:37:10 pm
Tasting day.  I had two extra bottles that did not fit in the 12 pack containers I used to store the bottles, so after about a week in the closet they went in the fridge to get cold.  Countdown to tasting in 3 mins.  LOL

A little early, no?  I’d be surprised if they were properly carbonated after only a week.
I was always puzzled by this. If primary fermentation is complete within 3-5 days, why does it take 2 weeks to fully carbonate in bottles? The answer, as best I can tell, is that the secondary fermentation in the bottles is done within a few days, just like the primary fermentation, but that the quality of carbonation changes. You can tap a keg after a week and the beer is carbonated but the foam is coarse. After 2 weeks the foam is finer. The same thing happens with bottles. You might be able to chill them down after a week, but is still takes another week for the carbonation to develop.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: denny on June 26, 2022, 09:46:12 am
Tasting day.  I had two extra bottles that did not fit in the 12 pack containers I used to store the bottles, so after about a week in the closet they went in the fridge to get cold.  Countdown to tasting in 3 mins.  LOL

A little early, no?  I’d be surprised if they were properly carbonated after only a week.
I was always puzzled by this. If primary fermentation is complete within 3-5 days, why does it take 2 weeks to fully carbonate in bottles? The answer, as best I can tell, is that the secondary fermentation in the bottles is done within a few days, just like the primary fermentation, but that the quality of carbonation changes. You can tap a keg after a week and the beer is carbonated but the foam is coarse. After 2 weeks the foam is finer. The same thing happens with bottles. You might be able to chill them down after a week, but is still takes another week for the carbonation to develop.

Yiyre talking about the time it takes for the CO2 to go into solution in the beer.
Title: Re: First try and building my own recipe
Post by: redrocker652002 on June 26, 2022, 01:53:31 pm
Tasting day.  I had two extra bottles that did not fit in the 12 pack containers I used to store the bottles, so after about a week in the closet they went in the fridge to get cold.  Countdown to tasting in 3 mins.  LOL

A little early, no?  I’d be surprised if they were properly carbonated after only a week.
I wasn't sure, and I had two extra bottles sitting so I figured why not.  The carb level was excellent, so whatever happened in the bottle worked out.  The taste was good, but I am going to wait another week or two and see how things go.  I have to work the next 6 or 7 days, so I won't be able to taste it anyway  LOL.