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Title: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: deepsouth on November 20, 2009, 05:00:30 PM
i've been brewing extract for the past eight or ten months.  i had upgraded my brew kettle to a 10 gallon mega-pot already and was perfectly happy for a few months. 

now i've got the itch to brew all grain so i have more control over the flavor of the beer and cut the cost of my brewing.  i ordered the 7 lb barley crusher from northern brewer as well as this....

10 gallon AGS

(http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7320/image704.jpg) (http://img260.imageshack.us/i/image704.jpg/)


not a sabco i know, but i'm sure it will keep me occupied until i have the resources to upgrade again. 


i'm actually more nervous about screwing my beer up now than i was before my first extract batch....
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: bonjour on November 20, 2009, 05:10:45 PM
you know what they say

RDWHAHB

Fred
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: bluesman on November 20, 2009, 05:46:37 PM
you know what they say

RDWHAHB

Fred

+1

once you go all grain...you'll never look back.
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: slimsparty on November 22, 2009, 04:33:11 AM
Plus-you have good gear.  Good bear is good recipe, good sanitation, good procedure, good ingredients, and good gear.  Period.

now make something you like first so you have a reference point.

but seriously!  RDWHAHB

It is a RUSH being within reinheitsgabot and having good beer as a result.

Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: dhacker on November 22, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
Hey Deep,

Welcome to the AG club! That is a great setup! You may decide you don't need to "upgrade", and I can assure you, you can make as good a beer with twin Rubbermaids as you can with a BM. Plus, the money saved in gear can go towards more ingredients!   ;D

So . . what's the plan for the inaugural batch?
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: bonjour on November 22, 2009, 02:50:59 PM
That looks more like a 5 gallon AGS, but then I tend to brew BIG

Fred
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: smurfe on November 22, 2009, 03:25:40 PM
I have a Sabco and before I had it I had (have) basically the same Set up you ordered. Guess what? Same beer. I do have a lot more fun with the Sabco and hey, the wife made me get it. Actually she bought it for me as a gift but I made really good beer with the Rubbermaid coolers.
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: deepsouth on December 28, 2009, 08:36:05 PM
i just bought some grains for my first couple batches....

---- Crisp Maris Otter
   30 lb   
---- Belgian Pale Ale
   10 lb   
---- Briess Victory
   5 lb   
---- Briess 2 Row Caramel 10
   5 lb   
---- Caramel Vienne
   5 lb   
---- Biscuit
   3 lb   
---- Special B
   2 lb   
---- Briess Special Roast Malt
   2 lb   
---- Aromatic
   2 lb   
---- Flaked Oats
   2 lb   
---- Weyermann Cara Munich III ®
   1 lb   
---- Briess 2 Row Caramel 60
   1 lb   
---- De-Bittered Black
   1 lb   



i've already collected quite a few hops....

hallertauer
williamette
ekg
fuggles
centennial
chinook
nugget
amarillo
simcoe
warrior
magnum
columbus
pallisades
citra
(one more that i can't remember the name of that is not common in the states)


yeasts

london ale
ringwood ale
american ale II
us-05
nottingham



can't wait for my first all grain brew day!  i'm going to do a black ipa.
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: deepsouth on December 28, 2009, 08:49:15 PM
i'm using the following recipe....   (may modify it a bit...)

5 gallon batch

12 lbs Maris Otter
1 lb Crystal 60L
1 lb Carafa Special



1.5 oz Amarillo  - 75 min
1 oz Simcoe  - 60 min
.5 oz Amarillo - 20 min
.5 oz Amarillo - flameout
.5 oz Simcoe - flameout
1 oz Amarillo - dry hop


probably ferment on the us-05 or the american ale.

if i'm feeling crazy, i might put it in an american oak barrel for a couple weeks before i keg it.


i'm open to suggestions of course.



Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on December 29, 2009, 04:38:00 PM
I think you have too much Carafa Special.
You should not have more then 5% in you grist.

And of course Happy AG brewing.
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: denny on December 29, 2009, 05:42:48 PM
I think you have too much Carafa Special.
You should not have more then 5% in you grist.

And of course Happy AG brewing.

I think it's too much, too, but setting a % limit makes no sense to m.  Use as much as your tastes want you to use.
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: bluesman on December 29, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
I would also cut back on the Carafa unless you want an over the top roastiness to your beer. I calculated your color to be about 30SRM.
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: Thirsty_Monk on December 30, 2009, 01:36:46 AM
I do not like to use more then 3 %.

Weyermann recommends 1 - 5 %.
http://www.weyermann.de/eng/produkte.asp?idkat=19&umenue=yes&idmenue=37&sprache=2
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: deepsouth on December 30, 2009, 01:15:58 PM
thanks for the advice guys.  i will cut back on those specialty malts.  probably by at least half and then add maybe four ounces of de-bittered black for color?
Title: Re: making the switch to all grain!!!
Post by: denny on December 30, 2009, 04:27:59 PM
I do not like to use more then 3 %.

Weyermann recommends 1 - 5 %.
http://www.weyermann.de/eng/produkte.asp?idkat=19&umenue=yes&idmenue=37&sprache=2

It all depends on the results you want, though.  I've used much more than that for a porter, for example.