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Title: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: 1vertical on October 29, 2010, 02:33:31 PM
Anybody else like this product?
Can you say .....GOOD....or even Betta??
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: blatz on October 29, 2010, 02:35:01 PM
really? my wife buys that stuff, but I've never tried it - guess I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: 1vertical on October 29, 2010, 02:44:12 PM
really? my wife buys that stuff, but I've never tried it - guess I'll give it a go.
Please do and report back with your findings.  I just put it over a bowl of cereal and you
do not need to add any sweetners....just pretty yummy IMO. (if you like the taste of Almonds)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: glitterbug on October 29, 2010, 02:51:24 PM
What brand? We tried one but didn't like it, it was too thick and too sweet.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: corkybstewart on October 29, 2010, 02:59:33 PM
My daughter has a carton of it in the fridge, I tasted it and hated it. 
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: 1vertical on October 29, 2010, 03:20:25 PM
What brand? We tried one but didn't like it, it was too thick and too sweet.
Well I got the Silk brand and want to try the Blue Diamond.  Yeah it is thicker than milk
and sweetened but I kinda like it...could be my new goto for milk substitute.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: brewmichigan on October 29, 2010, 03:26:44 PM
Tastes like almonds  :P

Too weird for me.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: ryang on October 29, 2010, 04:06:36 PM
It's not bad, but too sweet for milk.

Good old skim for me please!  My wife drinks whole goat milk... talk about soup.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: redbeerman on October 29, 2010, 06:33:28 PM
Why not milk?   I grew up in dairy country and to me, there is no substitute.  YMMV.  Of course if you are lactose intolerant, my sympathies and apologies. ;)  I know if I were, I would be really sad.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: euge on October 29, 2010, 06:37:00 PM
More importantly- can one make cheese out of it? ;D

I like vanilla soy milk from time to time. Had the Ricedream too. The almond milk has been around for a while, just never tried it. Will do so if I can find a small carton. Does it come in liters?
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: dj99 on October 29, 2010, 07:14:28 PM
You can make some yourself.  Sugar is optional.

For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhlwtHA6MSg
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: narcout on October 29, 2010, 11:18:47 PM
I think it's pretty tasty.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: beerocd on October 29, 2010, 11:37:53 PM
Almond Milk has always been "non-dairy".  :P

Rice milk is good too, horchata in Mexican restaurants.
Almond Milk is good - just pricey.
Never compared the two nutritionally though. Are they at all equal?
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: capozzoli on October 30, 2010, 01:06:55 AM
Really, I was thinking New? Non dairy? People have een drinking almond milk for a thousand years.

I know how to make homemade almond milk, Delicious and much creamier and better than store bought. I also know how to make rice milk, and horchatta, even soy milk. Its not hard.

Want my recipe? Horchata is a rice milk almond milk combo.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: beerocd on October 30, 2010, 01:27:35 AM
Horchata is a rice milk almond milk combo.

Maybe in Cap-land. Here(Chicago) it is basically cinnamonny-liquidy-sweet-rice pudding flavored drink.
What's your recipe?

Edit:
OH! Maybe you're using almonds, whereas here there might be a hint of vanilla?
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: capozzoli on October 30, 2010, 02:11:33 AM
Why do they always have to change everything around in Chicago? 

I learned how to make horchata from a Mexican.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horchata

My simple Horchata is made By simmering a mixture of one cup rice with a half gallon of fresh clean water. Added is a fist full of chopped almonds, a cinnamon stick a vanilla bean sugar and a pinch of salt. 

Simmer till the rice is falling apart and strain through cheese cloth. Awesome!

Rice milk, soy milk, almond milk and coconut milk can be fermented. Most curiously with me by kefir grains among other things.. Hmmm?
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: majorvices on October 30, 2010, 02:20:22 AM
"Non dairly milk" ... WTF is that? Is is like "Non Beery Beer"? Is so, keep it the hell away from me. Thanks. :P ;)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: bluesman on October 30, 2010, 02:30:47 AM
Yes.  Let's get back to the standard.   ;) ;D

(http://www.starwarped.net/files/pics/page-2/original_files/funny-Yoda-picture-Jedi-masters-got-milk-parody-pic.jpg)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: beerocd on October 30, 2010, 02:40:59 AM
Why do they always have to change everything around in Chicago?  

I learned how to make horchata from a Mexican.

Too bad the Mexican wasn't from Chicago, you'd be making the right stuff then.  :P

Ingredients

    * 1 cup uncooked white long-grain rice
    * 5 cups water
    * 1/2 cup milk
    * 1/2 tablespoon vanilla extract
    * 1/2 tablespoon ground cinnamon
    * 2/3 cup white sugar

Edit:
12.5% of the population were Hispanic and Latino of any race. (Philly)
Hispanics or Latinos (of any race) make up 27.8% of the population. (Chicago)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: bluesman on October 30, 2010, 02:52:52 AM
Almond Rice Pudding

Ingredients
3/4 cup leftover cooked rice, preferably basmati or jasmine
3/4 cup almond milk
1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/4 cup crushed pistachios
1/4 cup sliced California Almonds, roasted
1 teaspoon honey

(http://www.neelscorner.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/milkandalmondpudding-thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: beerocd on October 30, 2010, 02:55:31 AM
Hey bluesman - I thought it was kinda your job to keep these things "on track" not derail em.  :P
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: bluesman on October 30, 2010, 03:07:10 AM
Hey bluesman - I thought it was kinda your job to keep these things "on track" not derail em.  :P

At least I had the Almond part right.  ;)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: euge on October 30, 2010, 03:19:23 AM
My colleagues all perked up when I said Horchata! They got real excited.

Remember I'm the only Anglo here...?

They say it isn't cooked but soaked and strained.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: 1vertical on October 30, 2010, 04:52:11 AM
Dang I been at werk all nite while this thread blossomed.  As for the real thing;....
dang 1 and 2 %    milk is IMO white water MILK WANNABE....gimme the ole stuff
before it goes thru the seperator...and you cannot even get that legally here in BFE WHYO.
Whole millk is some what tolerable, but I like the cream floating on the top ....where is that stuff?

I guess you all keep that stuff up in dairy land for yourselves....I do not have the desire to
milk two times a day every day....no thanks....

This Almond product was to me a nice rich thick creamy delicious alternative to
1 and  2 % and gag...skim milk stuff they sell now a days.
Not lactose intolerant, just like rich creamy whole milk.

The "New" part was just saying " new to me...."
And Cap, thank you for broadening my sheltered existance with your wealth of culinary knowledge.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: tschmidlin on October 30, 2010, 05:00:29 AM
Horchata is a rice milk almond milk combo.

Maybe in Cap-land. Here(Chicago) it is basically cinnamonny-liquidy-sweet-rice pudding flavored drink.
What's your recipe?

Edit:
OH! Maybe you're using almonds, whereas here there might be a hint of vanilla?
Yeah, the horchata I've made was cinnamon and vanilla flavored, no almonds.  Very good stuff, although a bit too sweet for me even after I cut the sugar in half.  My kids really like it.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: 1vertical on October 30, 2010, 05:19:12 AM
Horchata is a rice milk almond milk combo.

Maybe in Cap-land. Here(Chicago) it is basically cinnamonny-liquidy-sweet-rice pudding flavored drink.
What's your recipe?

Edit:
OH! Maybe you're using almonds, whereas here there might be a hint of vanilla?
Yeah, the horchata I've made was cinnamon and vanilla flavored, no almonds.  Very good stuff, although a bit too sweet for me even after I cut the sugar in half.  My kids really like it.
I bet that would be dynomite made with some D2 Syrup!

Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: capozzoli on October 30, 2010, 12:00:54 PM
My colleagues all perked up when I said Horchata! They got real excited.

Remember I'm the only Anglo here...?

They say it isn't cooked but soaked and strained.

Euge ask them more about this technique. I have heard of it being done this way but cant imagine how it would work. It wont be creamy at all. How long do they soak it for?

Basmati rice makes delicious horchata,

I dont like it but a lot of people put lime zest in horchata.

1verticle, check out the milk discussion in the cheese thread, or was it the sausage thread? I just know the milk discussion is not in the milk thread.
 
Anyway, to my surprise, mrnate pointed out that some dairies have permits to sell raw milk to the public in PA.. We have been getting raw un-homogenized milk right from the farm lately. Wonderful stuff.

Pasteurization is a lot of hooey. They have been ruining our milk for years, and they have laws that make the dairies ruin it too.

Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: 1vertical on October 30, 2010, 02:17:25 PM
1verticle, check out the milk discussion in the cheese thread, or was it the sausage thread? I just know the milk discussion is not in the milk thread.
 
Anyway, to my surprise, mrnate pointed out that some dairies have permits to sell raw milk to the public in PA.. We have been getting raw un-homogenized milk right from the farm lately. Wonderful stuff.

Pasteurization is a lot of hooey. They have been ruining our milk for years, and they have laws that make the dairies ruin it too.

  That is what I was getting at Cap, just did not wanna open a can of worms about govm't regs. There was some
news article here this week about this very thing and ppl have to drive hours to be able to get this product.  OTOH, I
would not want to get some of the illnesses that can be contracted from milk.

http://trib.com/news/local/article_86f39f7a-9786-569a-afa7-d8e302aa758b.html (http://trib.com/news/local/article_86f39f7a-9786-569a-afa7-d8e302aa758b.html)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: nicneufeld on October 30, 2010, 02:33:17 PM
"horchata"?  You mean sake wort, right?  :D
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: euge on October 30, 2010, 06:17:29 PM
Soon you'll be able to get it in the can. http://madrinashorchata.com/ (http://madrinashorchata.com/)

Here's a recipe that sounds more like what was explained to me- we were interrupted when I started asking tough questions so I'm a little hazy on the whole thing.  :D http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/Recipes/Cold-Beverages-654/Mexican-Horchata-593.aspx (http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/Recipes/Cold-Beverages-654/Mexican-Horchata-593.aspx)

I've been around it for over 15 years and never tried it. Many of the mom&pop restaurants have big jars of it beside the aguas frescas.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: capozzoli on October 30, 2010, 06:51:38 PM
And the agua de jimaica?

Very interesting.Im going to try it that way soon.

I think I am going go make a guanabana liquados right now.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: capozzoli on November 01, 2010, 10:02:14 PM
Hey nic, I was thinking about what you said regarding horchata and saki. I have had this "milky saki" several times.I think it is unfiltered saki basically. Ever had it? I think it is popular in Korea. Milky opaque in appearance sweet and mildly alcoholic in taste.

Just got me to thinking.What about making horchata, then fermenting it and bottle carb. Has to be something ferment-able in starchy rice water, right? 

Guess it might taste awful otherwise people would be drinking it. ,
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: nicneufeld on November 01, 2010, 10:21:26 PM
Cloudy sake...that's my favorite stuff, called nigori sake.  Usually sweeter and milder in taste, although it can be plenty strong in ABV, still.  Nigorizake is what I pick up if I'm going to watch Toshiro Mifune movies!  Nigori sake, yakitori, and one of those long, black and white Kurosawa period piece movies makes for a nice evening.

Horchata I don't think would actually ferment properly, at least in a sake sort of way...I made the suggestion in jest...the sake fermentation process is actually a lot more complicated, not though I could adequately explain it, but it involves the use of something like a benign mold to convert the starches to a fermentable status.  Now, horchata is probably sweetened with sugar, so THAT would ferment I bet, and you would then have a very low ABV thick rice beverage, but I doubt the rice would be converted to alcohol in the way sake does.

But nigorizake is great.  If I wasn't so cheap I'd have it more often.  Not that its that expensive, I guess, but I barely buy commercial beer any more, such is the expanding extent of my cheapness.  Someday I'll start trying to brew it meself.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: capozzoli on November 01, 2010, 10:54:46 PM
I wonder what would happen if I fermented with tibicos. How is that word pronounced?

Yeah, I would like to make some saki.Does that guy from the old forum post here. I cant remember his name, brewalaska or something. 
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: capozzoli on November 02, 2010, 01:16:00 AM
How bout amazake? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazake Sounds interesting. Still need koji though.

This one is interesting too. Guess this one is a wild ferment? http://www.helladelicious.com/recipes/2007/06/rice-milk-from-nourishing-traditions/

Or gamju http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamju

This one is getting closer to what you had me thinking. .http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makgeolli

Does not look like they use koji rice when making makgeolli, it uses nuruk instead.From what I gather it is a sort of fermented wheat cake that includes the cultures to ferment the makgeolli.

This is the stuff I was talking about, I was wrong its not saki at all. man is it good.

http://harmsboone.org/homebrewers-guide-makgeolli

http://seoulkitchen.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/homemade-sweet-potato-makgeolli/

(http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/upload/news/080918_p16_makgeolli.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_USzog_GOzyA/SycH8FNcspI/AAAAAAAANqE/0natgVN_wEg/s400/s17.jpg)

(http://harmsboone.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/IMG_5865-e1275485232778.jpg)

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_uiMrtlAUsQA/SrWOrSaBIZI/AAAAAAAALkw/2znKqIb_puM/IMG_5076.JPG)

(http://www.koreaaward.com/kor/files/attach/images/5602/817/005/200991415134437285.jpg)

Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: 1vertical on November 02, 2010, 04:53:35 AM
Dang Cap you could start a reality show about culinary horizons....yours are
Broad to say the least!
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: euge on November 02, 2010, 06:15:47 AM
I like the unfiltered sake the best. Maybe it's the homebrewer in me.

How about Toddy? Palm wine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_wine)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: bluesman on November 02, 2010, 11:03:51 AM
Dang Cap you could start a reality show about culinary horizons....yours are
Broad to say the least!


He already has it right here and now on the AHA forum.  ;D

Amazake sounds interesting. I'd like to try it sometime.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: redbeerman on November 02, 2010, 01:09:25 PM
Hey Cap, how about fermenting some barley squeezin's.  Sheesh.  All ready to ferment everything but beer. ;)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: capozzoli on November 05, 2010, 01:37:41 AM
Ha, thats funny. True though I have been brewing less frequently. Its more like I have to do some drinking though.  ;D

Ill do some brewing and post some pics. You have to promise not to laugh though.

Im really want to try making this Makgelloi. Really good stuff. I have had it a few times. Impossible to describe. You can get it still or carbonated and it is very high in alcohol.

The rice is not prepped with that mold koji as with saki but instead it is boiled rice mash that is fermented with a wheat paste that has yeast cultures in it called. nuruk.

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7563/menu2sub1img5.gif)

This milky rice beer is not saki at all all though many westerners call it "milky" saki.

It is much more close to beer than saki cause it is fermented with yeast, but also a fungus is in the nuruk cake.

This rice preparation and use of nuruk is also part of the process for making soju,but we cant talk about making that stuff on this forum.

Now I have to find some nuruk cake.  ::)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: redbeerman on November 05, 2010, 03:26:18 PM
Ha, thats funny. True though I have been brewing less frequently. Its more like I have to do some drinking though.  ;D

Ill do some brewing and post some pics. You have to promise not to laugh though.


We're here to help Cap.  We won't laugh, um, much any way. ;)
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: guitarbrew on November 05, 2010, 05:22:15 PM
I hate to get back on topic here, but soy and almond milk really do taste great on cereal.
Title: Re: Try the new non dairy Almond Milk!
Post by: 1vertical on November 06, 2010, 04:58:10 AM
I am now enjoying that very combination daily...pretty nice.