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Title: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: tschmidlin on November 02, 2010, 04:15:24 PM
Hoist a pint to celebrate the (temporary) end of the political ads!
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: jeffy on November 02, 2010, 04:45:40 PM
I'm so over the robocalls.  Who listens to that stuff?
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: theDarkSide on November 02, 2010, 05:08:34 PM
Hoist a pint to celebrate the (temporary) end of the political ads!

Come on!!  The presidential election is exactly 2 years away...how much of a hiatus do you expect to get? :)
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: theDarkSide on November 02, 2010, 05:09:34 PM
I'm so over the robocalls.  Who listens to that stuff?

You mean that wasn't really Sarah Palin that called me the other night?  :(

These robocalls took down Comcast in NH yesterday...I was wondering why I wasn't getting any calls... :D
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: tschmidlin on November 02, 2010, 05:13:44 PM
Hoist a pint to celebrate the (temporary) end of the political ads!

Come on!!  The presidential election is exactly 2 years away...how much of a hiatus do you expect to get? :)
A month or two?  Please?   :-\   ;D
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: jeffy on November 02, 2010, 05:21:19 PM
I'm so over the robocalls.  Who listens to that stuff?

You mean that wasn't really Sarah Palin that called me the other night?  :(

These robocalls took down Comcast in NH yesterday...I was wondering why I wasn't getting any calls... :D
I had a talk with Bill Clinton the other day, but I don't think he was listening.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: euge on November 02, 2010, 05:22:09 PM
I've gotten several "private" calls on my cellphone in the last couple days. Experience has taught me not to answer. Didn't occur to me that it would be a political call. Probably in Spanish anyway. ;)

I'm headed to the polls in a few hours.

Oh it's one thing or the other. Now it'll be Christmas ads bombarding us from every angle for the next seven weeks.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: tschmidlin on November 02, 2010, 05:51:13 PM
Oh it's one thing or the other. Now it'll be Christmas ads bombarding us from every angle for the next seven weeks.
Yeah, but the Groundhog's Day ads aren't nearly as annoying :)

You never hear "Punxsutawney Phil lied last year and said there would be 6 more weeks of winter.  Why would you support a liar?"
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: jeffy on November 02, 2010, 06:43:41 PM
Oh it's one thing or the other. Now it'll be Christmas ads bombarding us from every angle for the next seven weeks.
Yeah, but the Groundhog's Day ads aren't nearly as annoying :)

You never hear "Punxsutawney Phil lied last year and said there would be 6 more weeks of winter.  Why would you support a liar?"
I always thought he was kinda shady.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: nicneufeld on November 02, 2010, 07:10:55 PM
Punxatawny Phil voted to murder puppies, and wants to raid Social Security to bed his den!  Isn't it time for a change?

(http://www.billemory.com/blogimg/cag04_groundhog_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: Tim McManus on November 02, 2010, 07:41:56 PM
I elected to make a beer this weekend, maybe two.

Oh, the groundhog is a commie.   ;D
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: capozzoli on November 02, 2010, 08:32:37 PM
If I hear one more person say "send a message to Washington" Im gonna s***.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: theDarkSide on November 02, 2010, 08:40:08 PM
If I hear one more person say "send a message to Washington" Im gonna s***.

Send a message to Washington!!!

( Pictures or it didn't happen )

 :D
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: punatic on November 02, 2010, 08:51:58 PM
Just picked up a bottle of Cinq Cents to celebrate Election Day!
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: capozzoli on November 02, 2010, 08:59:21 PM
If I hear one more person say "send a message to Washington" Im gonna s***.

Send a message to Washington!!!

( Pictures or it didn't happen )

 :D

Fortunately I did not hear that. However reading the words is causing frequent uncontrollable flatulence that may lead to s***. I could include a sound bite as proof but you and everyone else has heard enough of that with all of the political adds.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: punatic on November 02, 2010, 09:09:42 PM
Fortunately I did not hear that. However reading the words is causing frequent uncontrollable flatulence that may lead to s***.

Definition of a surprise?  Flatulence with a lump in it.  :o
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: capozzoli on November 03, 2010, 12:43:33 AM
Clearly Im not the one with the bizarre obsession.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: Mikey on November 03, 2010, 12:45:48 AM
Just got back from the polls. I sent Washington a message. :D
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: rabid_dingo on November 03, 2010, 03:28:42 AM
At the risk of political blah, a brewer just got elected Governor in CO...I've had his beer, pretty good.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: punatic on November 03, 2010, 06:08:47 AM
...a brewer just got elected Governor in CO...I've had his beer, pretty good.
What I always liked about his brewpub is, after suffering major beer fatigue at the GABF, I could wander down to Wykoop and have a mead.

That being said, this forum is not the progressive echo chamber; political opinions should be taken somewhere else.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: euge on November 03, 2010, 06:21:38 AM
...a brewer just got elected Governor in CO...I've had his beer, pretty good.
What I always liked about his brewpub is, after suffering major beer fatigue at the GABF, I could wander down to Wykoop and have a mead.

That being said, this forum is not the progressive echo chamber; political opinions should be taken somewhere else.

I agree. I've seen it rip asunder another forum. This is not the venue at all.

And I'd vote for a man that could brew decent beer. Yup. Sure would.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: theoman on November 03, 2010, 08:06:31 AM
I feel for you guys. I don't even live in the country and I'm sick of it.

The toy commercials for Sinterklaas have begun here. Yep, Sinterklaas - almost as weird as an American election. Did anyone campaign in blackface?
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: tschmidlin on November 03, 2010, 08:31:23 AM
...a brewer just got elected Governor in CO...I've had his beer, pretty good.
What I always liked about his brewpub is, after suffering major beer fatigue at the GABF, I could wander down to Wykoop and have a mead.

I have to get to Wynkoop more often - everything tastes better when it's free :)

The toy commercials for Sinterklaas have begun here. Yep, Sinterklaas - almost as weird as an American election. Did anyone campaign in blackface?
Not this year, although there was one guy who was fond of Nazi uniforms for a time prior to the campaign (http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/10/12/candidate.nazi.outfit/index.html).   ::)

That Black Peter thing seems weird to me, but we probably have traditions that seem weird to people in other countries.  Perhaps like our seemingly perpetual election season?   ;D
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: euge on November 03, 2010, 08:32:35 AM
I feel for you guys. I don't even live in the country and I'm sick of it.

The toy commercials for Sinterklaas have begun here. Yep, Sinterklaas - almost as weird as an American election. Did anyone campaign in blackface?

The interesting times are still in progress.  :-\

As always.

I'm surprised at what I perceive as a low turn out. Really? Am I wrong? Apathy. At most about a quarter of my colleagues voted.

Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: punatic on November 03, 2010, 09:24:32 AM
I'm surprised at what I perceive as a low turn out. Really? Am I wrong? Apathy. At most about a quarter of my colleagues voted.

I am amazed and ashamed by voter turnout.  
What makes the USA exceptional is that our government is based on our right to tell government what to do.
And the majority of the people cannot be bothered to take the time to exercise that freedom!
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: dbeechum on November 03, 2010, 11:47:34 AM
Voter turnout has always been a problem in American elections, particularly in off-Presidential cycle elections. It's bizarre, but at least in modern times we did still did use to hit 60% turnout on cycle and 50% off cycle as opposed to the trend today of ~50-55% on cycle and 35-40% off cycle.

Despite the number one given reason being "not enough time" - the real turning point? Vietnam, Nixon and Watergate. That triple whammy killed the electoral spirit.

I still think election days should be work holidays. I know employers are required to provide workers time to vote, but bah.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: jeffy on November 03, 2010, 12:12:59 PM
Voter turnout has always been a problem in American elections, particularly in off-Presidential cycle elections. It's bizarre, but at least in modern times we did still did use to hit 60% turnout on cycle and 50% off cycle as opposed to the trend today of ~50-55% on cycle and 35-40% off cycle.

Despite the number one given reason being "not enough time" - the real turning point? Vietnam, Nixon and Watergate. That triple whammy killed the electoral spirit.

I still think election days should be work holidays. I know employers are required to provide workers time to vote, but bah.
I'm not sure it would help so much in the USA because of the apathy here, but I think Germany holds elections on Sundays.  They get much better turn-out.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: theDarkSide on November 03, 2010, 12:13:13 PM
 :D ;D :) :D
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: tubercle on November 03, 2010, 12:53:48 PM
 I spent the day in Colonial Willimasburg, VA. (vote absentee last week BTW).
Around noon I was sitting in awe in the the old capital building in the chamber of the House of Burgesses listening to a lovely lady dressed in 18thy century garb give her talk about Patrick Henry, Richard Lee and the other Virginians that deliberated and drafted the Virginia Constitution and we know where that led a month later in Concord, Mass.

  It occurred to me that is was voting day, and had it not been for these folks, and many more like them, we would have no need for a ballot.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: theDarkSide on November 03, 2010, 01:15:07 PM
Another piece of positive news is that Massachusetts has voted YES on Question 1 to remove the 6.25% Sales Tax on alcohol, which is already taxed heavily through excise tax.  Of course, we'll have to see if they actual follow through with it.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: Tim McManus on November 03, 2010, 02:16:07 PM
If they gave out free beer at the polls, I bet more people would show up....and it'd have to be a good selection of beer...
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: Mikey on November 03, 2010, 02:23:50 PM
If they gave out free beer at the polls, I bet more people would show up....and it'd have to be a good selection of beer...

Didn't they try that once. :)
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: jeffy on November 03, 2010, 03:00:57 PM
If they gave out free beer at the polls, I bet more people would show up....and it'd have to be a good selection of beer...

Didn't they try that once. :)
I remember that when I lived in Ohio, on voting day they would not open the bars or the liquor stores until after the polls closed.  I'm not sure if they still do that.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: tumarkin on November 03, 2010, 03:12:11 PM
If they gave out free beer at the polls, I bet more people would show up....and it'd have to be a good selection of beer...

Didn't they try that once. :)
I remember that when I lived in Ohio, on voting day they would not open the bars or the liquor stores until after the polls closed.  I'm not sure if they still do that.

Things have changed quite a bit from the early days of our republic. Candidates used to roll out barrels of beer or whiskey at the polling spots to ensure a good turnout. I'm sure the quality of the drink provided was at least an element in the decision making process of the voters.
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: Tim McManus on November 03, 2010, 04:32:54 PM
If they gave out free beer at the polls, I bet more people would show up....and it'd have to be a good selection of beer...

Didn't they try that once. :)
I remember that when I lived in Ohio, on voting day they would not open the bars or the liquor stores until after the polls closed.  I'm not sure if they still do that.

Things have changed quite a bit from the early days of our republic. Candidates used to roll out barrels of beer or whiskey at the polling spots to ensure a good turnout. I'm sure the quality of the drink provided was at least an element in the decision making process of the voters.

In Ireland back in the day they would give you a pint of Guinness after you gave blood.  It was incentive for the folks to donate.  I'm not sure if they still do that, but beer motivated mankind to create society and such, so I believe it should still be used as a catalyst for great things!  :)
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: Steve on November 03, 2010, 05:20:27 PM
Three members of the House Small Brewers Caucus were reelected in my state of Massachusetts: One member of the casucus, William Delahunt(D) of the 10th District did not seek reelection.  I'm writing his successor Bill Keating(D) to ask him to fill Rep. Deleahunt's position on the caucus as well as asking my Rep. James McGovern(D) to join.

The caucus' website is http://smallbrewers.defazio.house.gov (http://smallbrewers.defazio.house.gov)

(http://smallbrewers.defazio.house.gov/hsbc/mt-static/themes/businessblogger/images/header-bg.jpg)
Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
Post by: denny on November 03, 2010, 05:38:30 PM
Three members of the House Small Brewers Caucus were reelected in my state of Massachusetts:
    The caucus' website is http://smallbrewers.defazio.house.gov (http://smallbrewers.defazio.house.gov)

    (http://smallbrewers.defazio.house.gov/hsbc/mt-static/themes/businessblogger/images/header-bg.jpg)

    As was my rep, Peter DeFazio, the head of the caucus.[/list]
    Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
    Post by: Mikey on November 03, 2010, 06:18:30 PM
    While beer is obviously, very important to me, I hope they direct their efforts to more important things.
    Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
    Post by: dbeechum on November 03, 2010, 06:37:44 PM
    They do. Hell, every Congress critter is a member of a dozen or more caucuses.

    The small brewers group is important to us though in the sense of lowering taxes for the smaller brewers.
    Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
    Post by: Mikey on November 03, 2010, 06:52:14 PM
    Well, I'm all for lower taxes.
    Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
    Post by: Steve on November 04, 2010, 01:55:17 PM
    Well, I'm all for lower taxes.
    Question 1 on our MA ballot was to repeal the sales tax on alcoholic bev's which the Legislature added last year to the existing excise tax we already pay.  Revenue went up as planned, but a large percentage of people were going north to New Hampshire and Vermont where there is NO tax on alcohol because liquor stores in NH & VT are state run where all revenue goes to the state.   http://wwwYesTo1.com (http://wwwYesTo1.com)
    The tax revenue collected was dedicated to fund treatment for those with substance abuse.  http://www.NoOn1MA.com (http://www.NoOn1MA.com)

    I voted along with 52% of voters elected Tuesday to repeal the additional sales tax.
    Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
    Post by: Slowbrew on November 04, 2010, 04:28:21 PM
    Well, I'm all for lower taxes.
    Question 1 on our MA ballot was to repeal the sales tax on alcoholic bev's which the Legislature added last year to the existing excise tax we already pay.  Revenue went up as planned, but a large percentage of people were going north to New Hampshire and Vermont where there is NO tax on alcohol because liquor stores in NH & VT are state run where all revenue goes to the state.   http://wwwYesTo1.com (http://wwwYesTo1.com)
    The tax revenue collected was dedicated to fund treatment for those with substance abuse.  http://www.NoOn1MA.com (http://www.NoOn1MA.com)

    I voted along with 52% of voters elected Tuesday to repeal the additional sales tax.

    Iowa used to have State owned and operated liquor stores.  They had really creative signs on the stores which consisted of 3 foot high navy blue backgrounds and 2.5' white, block letters that said LIQUOR STORE.  8^) 

    They also had a poster on the wall by the door that showed a bottle used as a graph to demonstrate how much of each bottle was product and how much was tax.  Under 10% of each bottle was product cost, the rest was various taxes.  At least they were honest about it.  The State still runs the distribution (out of a warehouse in Ankeny) but the stores are all retail now.  Now we can go to various retailers pay anywhere from $16 to $28 for the exact same bottle of BV, from the exact same distributor.

    I'm glad the elections are over and look forward to the 2 or 3 weeks before the 2012 races start.

    Paul
    Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
    Post by: rabid_dingo on November 05, 2010, 08:11:08 AM
    ...

    Heh heh! You said "caucus"!


    (can't let this get to political...) ;)
    Title: Re: Election Day in the USA!!!
    Post by: marty on November 05, 2010, 07:03:24 PM
    At the risk of political blah, a brewer just got elected Governor in CO...I've had his beer, pretty good.

    it is good news, no matter what someone's politics are it's good to have a beer friendly guy in high office