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Title: Recycling food
Post by: bluefoxicy on November 12, 2010, 03:50:15 PM
Bake bread.

Eat bread.

2-3 days later... stale bread.

Half a loaf left hmm.

I tried making bread pudding but I used a 2 quart 8 inch dutch oven... apparently too deep for this; it needs shallower.  Plus I made twice the quantity and twice the cook time doesn't seem to do what I intend; the top burns and the inside is a sickening goo.  I'll put it in the toaster oven and see if I can make it edible as I go.

So, you have stale bread.  What do you do with it, besides throw it out?  I keep my bread in a paper bag out of the fridge so it dries before mold can take hold; it lasts a couple days if you keep the cut end uncovered.  I find it stays softer and moister in plastic; however it can also go moldy in the same amount of time if it's warm or humid, and besides it still tastes stale and has a not-so-pleasant texture after a couple days even if it's not drying out.

I'm liable to steal these if I ever write a book.  In some religions, the wasting of food is an abomination unto God; I'd imagine any significant amount of philosophy study or basic meditation will draw a person to the same conclusions as they naturally contemplate the nature of waste eventually, whether they want to base this on God or gods or health of the spirit or ethics or logic of economy (wasted time, effort, money, material) or just plain common sense.  In my writings on philosophy, I would likely make that point quite clear.

Honestly, what sense does landfilling food make?  Don't tell me the seagulls need to eat too.  They can find clams just fine, that's why they're seagulls and not landfillgulls.

So how do you deal with food that is or is about to go bad?  Wasted cooked food (mashed potatoes -> potato pancakes, potato bread, etc; baked beans -> tomorrow's breakfast[/a])?  Fruit that's getting a bit soft?

I'm less interested in a huge dissertation on the theory of mulching eggshells and zucchini skins for compost; although zucchini skin for zucchini bread is a good idea.  Food to food is preferable:  you put a lot of time and energy into raising animals and crops, and while recycling that energy back into the crop is good and efficient in terms of resources (if you're not using any imported fertilizer i.e. just crop rotation, then this is self-sustaining and doesn't cause external resource drains), it's still wasted human labor and wasted land.  Arguably, if your self-sustaining farm could support itself without recirculating compost into the land, then you're also wasting output that could have gone to feed hungry people-- even in the best case scenario, directly converting waste food to more food is the most favorable venue.

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Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: morticaixavier on November 12, 2010, 05:49:34 PM
So, you have stale bread.  What do you do with it, besides throw it out? ...
...that's why they're seagulls and not landfillgulls....


A seagull that lives on an inlet is a baygull.

When I have left over brewd I use it for breadcrumbs, bread pudding or, if the right kind of bread and it's tomato season, bread salad/soup. you could soak it and make kvass
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: tschmidlin on November 12, 2010, 06:01:51 PM
What's leftover bread?  I baked a big loaf yesterday and it's 2/3 gone already.

We sometimes have rice left that is getting old - that gets fed to the dog.

If I catch food before it goes bad I will usually freeze it or just make something up on the fly.  Add some spices, fry it, throw it into something else, whatever.  We don't throw much food in the landfill.
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: euge on November 12, 2010, 06:20:46 PM
I like panzanella which is a salad made out of stale or left-over bread. Wonderful and versatile.

As a big bean eater lots of things find their way into the pot as flavoring. Also, fillings for omelets and fritatas. Made into topping for pasta or noodle soups. Let your imagination run...

I'm pretty pleased with myself because very little is wasted.
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: gordonstrong on November 12, 2010, 06:23:38 PM
+1 panzanella.  Unfortunately, I will only make it when I get local ripe tomatoes.

You can also just whiz it up in the food processor to make fresh breadcrumbs, which you can then use in lots of ways.

Make meatballs (or any similar mix) with milk-soaked stale bread; it helps keep them moist without being heavy.

Toast them in some olive oil and garlic in a pan to make your own croutons.
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: MrNate on November 12, 2010, 06:59:58 PM
Halve the recipe

Make rounds and use one for soup in a bread bowl.

Croutons. A lot of croutons.

Get a girlfriend, preferably a healthy one that likes to eat and drink. Ain't no shame if the lovin's the same.

Donate to Paul's Place or wherever the closest soup kitchen to you is.

The possibilities, they doth abound.


*Also, Dutchman's Supper. Can't forget Dutchman's Supper.
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: bluefoxicy on November 12, 2010, 10:13:28 PM

Get a girlfriend

This is never good advice.  Too many stupid guys have girlfriends because they "need a girlfriend."  Then you see them with two black eyes.
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: bluesman on November 12, 2010, 10:37:26 PM
I've learned how to get the most out of what I cook or prepare.
The stale bread issue is easy.
bread crumbs, croutons, bread soups, bread salads, french toast, toasts for dipping or feed the birds, feed the cats
just don't feed the birds to the cats...

I try to plan how I will stretch my meals before I make them.
If all else fails, I freeze when at all possible.

The possibilities are unlimited for a whole roasted chicken or a large pot of pasta...
I think you get the idea.
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: capozzoli on November 13, 2010, 01:37:03 AM
Make some minestra. That is the grandparent stew to Minestrone which is made with pasta, sometimes rice. Minestra uses bread, authentically it was made with older or "perso pane" as the Italians say. Just make it with the bread that is between fresh and bread crumbs.

Minestra can be made with or without meat.

This is traditional Italian "peasant food" Make a hearty bone/veg. stock. add loads of garlic, oregano, basil, nutmeg,  tomatoes meat and a couple fist fulls of pre-soaked kidney beans and chick peas. When the beans are soft add a lot of chopped carrots, celery, fennel, peppers, Simmer till the veg are cooked.

Cube the bread to about 1-1/2 Place some olive oil or melted butter into a mixing bowl, lots of chopped garlic, oregano, salt and pepper mix well then grate in a bunch of parm cheese. place the bread in the bowl and toss and dredge liberally with the oily mixture till the bread is well coated and the bread drank some up.  add more oil if needed.

Then toast the large cheesey Italian croutons to golden brown perfection. 

Serve the cubes of garlic bread on top of the stew. with some fresh grated parm cheese on top.

Great warmer upper in winter.

And as the Italians say... Mangia le mie palle!
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: 1vertical on November 13, 2010, 03:51:51 PM
Dry the stale bread before it goes moldy...save it till thanksgiving and use it to make the
turkey dressing....works wonderfully.  Some giblet juice, some onion,celery,sage...mmmm
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: bluefoxicy on November 15, 2010, 03:27:44 AM
authentically it was made with older or "perso pane" as the Italians say

Interesting, there is even bad food made from bad food.  And I thought the italians had just perfected the art of turning exceptionally good ingredients into exceptionally bad food (well, and also making crappy cars, horrible industrial infrastructure, and huge political blunders-- such as giving the French a special place as the only military to lose a war against the Italians... twice).
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: capozzoli on November 15, 2010, 04:13:11 AM
Wow.

Ill just repeat this quote to you: Mangia le mie palle!
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: MrNate on November 15, 2010, 05:10:44 AM
I like twinkies.
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: punatic on November 26, 2010, 06:26:59 AM
I am a licensed wastewater treatment plant operator.  We recycle used food for a living.
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: capozzoli on November 26, 2010, 06:57:43 AM



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Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: punatic on November 26, 2010, 08:36:53 AM

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Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: rabid_dingo on November 27, 2010, 01:52:32 AM
Bread crumbs and Fondue....

When I am down to the end and not enough bread to make much with it, super light toast to speed the
drying and breadcrumb it. By the way my bread crumb container is treated like a home-style chimichurri
sauce, no particular recipe but the same ingredients keep getting added to maintain an ammount. Mostly
some dried "italian seasoning"  spices and bread...
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: corkybstewart on November 27, 2010, 02:50:04 PM
To the OP.
We freeze overripe bananas and tomatoes for cooking with later.  Limp moldy veggies go to the compost pile, bread gets crumbed.
Yesterday I boiled the leftover carcasses from the Thanksgiving goose and turkey and pulled all the tiny bits of meat.  Today I'll take some of the goose fat and fry finely chopped onions and garlic, then add the meat with some spices, simmer and add more fat to make a rillette, one of my favorite all time French foods.
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: beerocd on November 28, 2010, 12:27:29 AM
To the OP.
We freeze overripe bananas and tomatoes for cooking with later.  Limp moldy veggies go to the compost pile, bread gets crumbed.
Yesterday I boiled the leftover carcasses from the Thanksgiving goose and turkey and pulled all the tiny bits of meat.  Today I'll take some of the goose fat and fry finely chopped onions and garlic, then add the meat with some spices, simmer and add more fat to make a rillette, one of my favorite all time French foods.
Splain dat?
All I really understood was carcass and fat. Sounds good so far. Pics?
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: capozzoli on November 28, 2010, 12:41:09 AM
Yeah, lets hear more about the goose. I havent had much success with goose. Was it wild? How did you prepare it. Im thinking about making goose on the grill for xmas.

My Argentinian turkey grill got rained out. Had to put it in the oven.
Title: Re: Recycling food
Post by: rabid_dingo on December 01, 2010, 09:38:10 AM
Yeah, lets hear more about the goose. I havent had much success with goose. Was it wild? How did you prepare it. Im thinking about making goose on the grill for xmas.

My Argentinian turkey grill got rained out. Had to put it in the oven.
I gotta say I had a bad Geuze Boon. Tasted like burnt rubber.