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Title: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: 1vertical on November 14, 2010, 12:35:12 AM
Nice lil stout. Hit the numbers and rang in at 1.062 ish flavor of the tube is nice n chocolate

High hopes for this one...
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/Vertical1/Stout2010.jpg)   ;D
Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: pyrite on November 14, 2010, 12:39:38 AM
I'm sure it will turn out stout.  Just keep it away from those sours of yours. ;D
Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: 1vertical on November 14, 2010, 12:58:05 AM
I'm sure it will turn out stout.  Just keep it away from those sours of yours. ;D
Wow wot a concept, Sour n stout....hmmmmm. I debated putting a half ounce of corriander
in the mash, but changed me mind at the last minute...
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Post by: tschmidlin on November 14, 2010, 06:27:57 AM
I'm sure it will turn out stout.  Just keep it away from those sours of yours. ;D
Wow wot a concept, Sour n stout....hmmmmm. I debated putting a half ounce of corriander
in the mash, but changed me mind at the last minute...
Glad you changed your mind, that doesn't sound all that great to me.  Neither does sour stout. :)

Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: punatic on November 14, 2010, 01:02:28 PM
I make a corriander beer that is my wife's fav of all my homebrews (mead not included).  It is a marzen with an ounce of freshly cracked coriander seeds added for 10 minutes at the end of the boil after the heat has been turned off. I wrote an article about it for the ingredients special issue of Zymurgy a while back.  I've tweaked the recipe a bit since then.

Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: 1vertical on November 14, 2010, 02:27:41 PM
I'm sure it will turn out stout.  Just keep it away from those sours of yours. ;D
Wow wot a concept, Sour n stout....hmmmmm. I debated putting a half ounce of corriander
in the mash, but changed me mind at the last minute...
Glad you changed your mind, that doesn't sound all that great to me.  Neither does sour stout. :)
I make a corriander beer that is my wife's fav of all my homebrews (mead not included).  It is a marzen with an ounce of freshly cracked coriander seeds added for 10 minutes at the end of the boil after the heat has been turned off. I wrote an article about it for the ingredients special issue of Zymurgy a while back.  I've tweaked the recipe a bit since then.

Interesting you should say that Tom, I was going to ask you your opinion before had a PM all set up to do the same, then backed down.  As for the sour stout I do believe
there are stouts hit up with Brett that do exist commercially, tho I have not tried any.

I enjoy the flavor of  Corriander in beer and the mash tun is the place to add it in IMO.
It diminishes the presence somewhat and kind of adds a flowery sweetness/aroma thing.

Anyhow, that beer had very little lag time I hope due to the fresh yeast cake I pitched
it onto and a large quantity of yeast.
Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: corkybstewart on November 14, 2010, 02:47:55 PM
Madrudgada Obscura from Jolly Pumpkin is an excellent Brett stout, it may have other bugs in it also. 
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Post by: jeffy on November 14, 2010, 02:59:54 PM
Madrudgada Obscura from Jolly Pumpkin is an excellent Brett stout, it may have other bugs in it also. 
I knew I had one from Jolly Pumpkin.  It had some acetic notes as well as the bret.  I didn't care much for it.  bouef
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Post by: alikocho on November 14, 2010, 03:14:22 PM
judged a brett RIS in a competition last year. It was interesting, and quite pleasant if you like that sort of thing, but miscategorized (should have been in specialty beer).
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Post by: corkybstewart on November 14, 2010, 04:29:20 PM
Madrudgada Obscura from Jolly Pumpkin is an excellent Brett stout, it may have other bugs in it also. 
I knew I had one from Jolly Pumpkin.  It had some acetic notes as well as the bret.  I didn't care much for it.  bouef
I bought 6 of them, 4 were excellent, one was not good at all, one still sits in the fridge.  You may have had a bad one.
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Post by: tumarkin on November 14, 2010, 05:13:57 PM
Madrudgada Obscura from Jolly Pumpkin is an excellent Brett stout, it may have other bugs in it also. 
I knew I had one from Jolly Pumpkin.  It had some acetic notes as well as the bret.  I didn't care much for it.  bouef
I bought 6 of them, 4 were excellent, one was not good at all, one still sits in the fridge.  You may have had a bad one.

+1 on the excellence of Madrudgada Obscura. I like it very much. Jolly Pumpkin's certainly got a handle on the wild stuff. Jeff's may have been a bad example.... or it may be just a question of personal taste.

Sour stout is not a common occurrence, which may speak to many people sharing Jeff's feeling towards them. On the other hand, I like them. I'm sure Jeff recalls the group effort we made here in FL for the Orlando AHA NHC. We brewed an RIS for the commemorative beer. It went sour in the barrel & we rebrewed & did some blending. I've still got a few put away, and break one out once in a while and really enjoy it.

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Post by: jeffy on November 14, 2010, 05:27:00 PM
Madrudgada Obscura from Jolly Pumpkin is an excellent Brett stout, it may have other bugs in it also. 
I knew I had one from Jolly Pumpkin.  It had some acetic notes as well as the bret.  I didn't care much for it.  bouef
I bought 6 of them, 4 were excellent, one was not good at all, one still sits in the fridge.  You may have had a bad one.

+1 on the excellence of Madrudgada Obscura. I like it very much. Jolly Pumpkin's certainly got a handle on the wild stuff. Jeff's may have been a bad example.... or it may be just a question of personal taste.

Sour stout is not a common occurrence, which may speak to many people sharing Jeff's feeling towards them. On the other hand, I like them. I'm sure Jeff recalls the group effort we made here in FL for the Orlando AHA NHC. We brewed an RIS for the commemorative beer. It went sour in the barrel & we rebrewed & did some blending. I've still got a few put away, and break one out once in a while and really enjoy it.



Thanks for reminding me, Mark  ::)
I just pulled one out of storage and into the fridge.
I like sour beers and I've had Madrudgada Obscura more than once.  I just didn't think it was a well-blended flavor.
(btw why do brewers chose to name their beers something you can barely pronounce?)
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Post by: tschmidlin on November 15, 2010, 06:39:29 AM
Yeah, for me it's personal preference on the sour stouts.  I just don't feel like the sourness goes well with the roast.  I don't care for Belgian yeast character in stouts either, it clashes IMO.   :-\
Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: punatic on November 15, 2010, 12:52:05 PM
I enjoy the flavor of  Corriander in beer and the mash tun is the place to add it in IMO.
It diminishes the presence somewhat and kind of adds a flowery sweetness/aroma thing.

I've tried adding fresh cracked corriander seeds to the mash a few times but, didn't have much luck with it.  Seemed like most of the corriander characteristics were lost in the finished beer.  Kinda like adding hops to the mash...

Do you use whole seeds or pre-ground corriander?
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Post by: bluesman on November 15, 2010, 02:48:08 PM
I enjoy the flavor of  Corriander in beer and the mash tun is the place to add it in IMO.
It diminishes the presence somewhat and kind of adds a flowery sweetness/aroma thing.

I've tried adding fresh cracked corriander seeds to the mash a few times but, didn't have much luck with it.  Seemed like most of the corriander characteristics were lost in the finished beer.  Kinda like adding hops to the mash...

Do you use whole seeds or pre-ground corriander?

I added fresh cracked coriander to a Wit once and it complemented the beer.  I'm not sure about a stout.
The bold roasted flavor might cover up the spice... :-\
Maybe try adding a very small amount to a pint and try it that way. This way, if you don't like it... you won't have five gallons of it sitting around.
Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: 1vertical on November 15, 2010, 02:59:39 PM
I enjoy the flavor of  Corriander in beer and the mash tun is the place to add it in IMO.
It diminishes the presence somewhat and kind of adds a flowery sweetness/aroma thing.

I've tried adding fresh cracked corriander seeds to the mash a few times but, didn't have much luck with it.  Seemed like most of the corriander characteristics were lost in the finished beer.  Kinda like adding hops to the mash...

Do you use whole seeds or pre-ground corriander?
I just put the whole seeds in with the grain before running the  mill...then really enjoy
the fragrant mash aroma...
Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: 1vertical on November 20, 2010, 10:37:49 PM
Update:
Think this is ready for secondary hyd tube sure tasted good.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/Vertical1/StoutFG2010jpg.jpg) ;D
Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: pyrite on November 21, 2010, 02:40:36 AM
It has to be the light, but this hydrometer reading on your stout looks a lot darker.  However, I'm itching to try some of your sour beers. I've been following your sour beer process.  I have some sour beers in the collection and want to make a trade.  I'm not to stoked about the shipping fees though.
Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: 1vertical on November 21, 2010, 03:17:14 AM
It has to be the light, but this hydrometer reading on your stout looks a lot darker.  However, I'm itching to try some of your sour beers. I've been following your sour beer process.  I have some sour beers in the collection and want to make a trade.  I'm not to stoked about the shipping fees though.
Hmmmm...Well you are correct about the light...that is the same beer and I was kind of taking note of that as well.
The first pic was basically in the same spot on the counter..so not sure as to why, but very different appearance.

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Post by: uthristy on November 21, 2010, 02:15:34 PM
Hmmmm...Well you are correct about the light...that is the same beer and I was kind of taking note of that as well.
The first pic was basically in the same spot on the counter..so not sure as to why, but very different appearance.



I noticed that awhile back and just accepted the lighting will always be slightly different even inside.
Glad to see other people taking gravity pics ;D
http://s821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/UknowWho2u/My%20brew%20pics/
Title: Re: Brewed today (pic)
Post by: 1vertical on November 21, 2010, 04:13:18 PM
Uthristy that is one nice collection of hyd tube shots. I don't have mine organized like you
dam 8 pages of em....yer prolific...and then side trips to belgium....