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Title: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: dbeechum on November 18, 2010, 11:12:32 PM
Anyone got any experience with dealing with this?

It looks like one of my two elder cats (14 years old) is going to be diagnosed with chronic renal failure. The amount of blah I feel about this is epic and his sister is confused what's happening since they've never been apart or unwell and I've had them since they were 8 weeks old.

blah.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: morticaixavier on November 18, 2010, 11:18:28 PM
I'm really sorry to hear that! it's always hard to think about losing a loved family member. I don't know much about the disease but here is a place to start.

http://www.felinecrf.com/

Just scanned the page and it looks like there are paliative treatment options

My puppy dog of 14 years passed away from cancer a couple of years ago and I am still not over it. I took what steps I could to make his last years comfortable.

I would think that his sister is going to need a lot of love and understanding. cats will misbehave in situations like this (Peeing on things etc) and it is important not to punish them for it (at least I think it is). lots of love for the both of them.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: majorvices on November 19, 2010, 12:02:27 AM
Sucks man. One of the hardest thing I ever did was put the best dog I had ever owned down. Really, really hard deal. I feel for you.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: weazletoe on November 19, 2010, 12:09:43 AM
I have no idea what that is. But I sure do feel for you. Nothing is worse than a sick pet. Had an episode with Porkchop back in the winter, and it's agonizing. We're all pulling for you and your cat.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: punatic on November 19, 2010, 07:30:04 AM
I lost a really good feline friend, Casper, to this 14 years ago.  He was only ten.  We were able to keep him going for a while by giving him fluids under his skin.  It really bothered me to do it, but Casper was a good sport and took it in stride.  His sister and litter-mate Lili had a hard time with what was going on.

I understand your blah, and feel for you. 

It's been 14 years and I still really miss Casper a lot.  I take comfort in knowing that when I get to the Pearly Gates he'll be waiting there for me - first in line.  I really loved that cat.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: uthristy on November 19, 2010, 12:02:15 PM
Anyone got any experience with dealing with this?

It looks like one of my two elder cats (14 years old) is going to be diagnosed with chronic renal failure.

Yes we have plenty of firsthand experience.  Our cats get bloodwork after age 10 once per year, after 12 its every 6 months its part of a through the geriatric work-up. All of the older cats show some signs in the blood test but using Hills cat food(s) has slowed the process, its just a mattter of time with most cats.The hard part is to catch it early which helps prevent damage to the organs.


How are the  BUN/Creatinine: numbers?  How many repeat test have been done? 

How is the cat`s quality of life? Some owners do give sub-q fluids. Kidney compromise isn't a death sentence if treated in time.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: bluesman on November 19, 2010, 02:41:06 PM
Sorry to hear about that Drew.

It's very difficult to deal with. I can feel your sadness.  I hade a mini schnauzer for fifteen years that I had to put down. It was the hardest thing I ever had to do. He was my best freind, my traveling partner and a great joy to be with. He was dubbed "The road dog" by my band mates. He traveled with me and my band from Canada to Key West. Everyone loved him.  His memory is permanantly etched in my mind.

R.I.P. Reggie...

I wish the best for your pet.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: maxieboy on November 19, 2010, 03:02:25 PM
Sorry to hear this. I wish the best for you and your faithful friend. These situations are indeed agonizing. I recently almost lost my Gordon Setter to the Iams salmonella cluster****. Agonizing doesn't come close to describing the feelings I had knowing that I continued (unknowingly) feeding salmonella tainted food to my sickened dog.
Godspeed.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: denny on November 19, 2010, 04:28:35 PM
Drew, I know how much you care for your cats.  I'm really sorry to hear this.  I don't have any info for you, but here's hoping you can find things that will extend your cat's time as much as possible.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: dbeechum on November 25, 2010, 05:24:10 AM
Hey guys, sorry.. had a busy and weird set of times here.

Fat cat is comfortably in his bed right next to the dish of renal cat food (christ, does it have to stink so much?) and his big bowl of water that he guards jealously.

He seems to be ok.. just his usual "I rest here all day" sort of self. The BUN numbers came back better on his external blood work than the vet had expected, so he's in meh shape for now. Just can't get him to take the damn anti-biotics the vet prescribed. Stupid cat will eat anything, and I mean anything, but he won't eat a damn pill pocket.

Of course, I'm also in the phase of "s***, is acting differently? Does this mean a problem? damnit"

Between this, one of the dog's bad backs and other medical stuff, I need a beer!
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: Hokerer on November 25, 2010, 01:45:32 PM
Between this, one of the dog's bad backs and other medical stuff, I need a beer!

...or two, or three, or.......
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: denny on November 25, 2010, 04:15:59 PM
Great news, Drew!  We've had good luck getting our cats to take pills by sticking he pill in a little ball of cream cheese.  OUr cats (and dogs) will do almost anything for cream cheese!
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: akr71 on November 25, 2010, 05:22:02 PM
We used to have a large orange tom that had a laudry list of health problems and I got fairly good at giving him pills.  Here's what worked for me:
kneel over top of him
with your thumb & index finger, open his mouth - slide them into the mouth behind those big nasty teeth and pry open
lift the head slightly & pop the pill down the throat
close the mouth and rub the throat a little to encourage him to swallow - maybe even followed by a little blast of air in the face

He fooled me a number of times, spitting the pill out as he ran away, but I got him to take it more often than not.

Eggroll (the shelter named him, not me) was more like a room-mate than a pet and he's still missed.  The vet said a healthy weight for a cat his size was 18 lbs.  One summer he was given a steroid shot to get over an infection and ballooned to 28 lbs over the next couple years.

Drew, glad to hear he's doing better..
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: weazletoe on November 25, 2010, 06:57:11 PM
I did a goole search on giving cats, pills. I thought this might be helpful to you. Glad to hear there is some progress.

http://www.jokefile.co.uk/numerical_order/1132.html
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: punatic on November 25, 2010, 07:29:12 PM
Holy cow Batman!  Was Eggroll a cat, or a catamount?
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: akr71 on November 25, 2010, 07:35:10 PM
Holy cow Batman!  Was Eggroll a cat, or a catamount?
I said he was a large organge tom.  :) When I would make a sandwich, I had to push everything to the back of the counter, because standing on his back legs he could reachthe counter and swipe stuff right off it!
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: deepsouth on November 25, 2010, 10:02:48 PM
Good luck Drew. We just lost our girl (dog) to renal failure. Love your baby while it's here.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: glitterbug on December 01, 2010, 01:56:21 AM
We have a cat who is allergic to dust, grass, and about 20 other things (He is probably allergic to other cats too ;) We have to give him pills and sub-dermal injections to stop him from tearing out all his fur. Akr71's pill giving method is similar to what we do. It takes practice but gets a little easier each time.

Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: EHall on December 01, 2010, 02:14:15 AM
we just had to put down one of our cats earlier this year due to renal failure. He was about 10. We noticed that he lost alot of weight pretty quickly, he went from about 22-24# to about 15 when we finally noticed something was going on. (we had been trying to reduce his weight for quite a while and though we were finally successful...) But this cat used to drink a ton of water, then as he got worse he stopped drinking. We had to give him the fluids under the skin for a while. He wouldnt eat the renal food either. We just basically spoiled him for the last couple months, giving him plenty of wet food and treats so to keep him as hydrated as possible, but we made the decision early on that when we thought his quality of life was declining, we'd put him down. All you can do is just try to keep him hydrated and comfortable and enjoy him while hes still here. Its not fun watching anyone or anything die slowly.
Title: Re: Feline Chronic Renal Failure
Post by: weazletoe on December 02, 2010, 03:47:11 AM
Eggroll (the shelter named him, not me)


That is one of the best pet names I ever heard!! I used to have an iguana named Chilito, and I have a dog named Porkchop. But Eggroll, now that is just bada$$!!

  I can just hear you at the shelter when you picked him up...... "You give me eggroll, me love you long time."   ;D