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Title: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: bonjour on November 27, 2009, 04:01:31 AM
I've never brewed with the stuff, perhaps because my first vanilla beer was like drinking the extract bottle.
How much, for how long and how should I induce the flavor to 5 gal of robust porter

Thanks

Fred
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: tygo on November 27, 2009, 04:05:08 AM
When I brewed Denny's BVIP a while back a did two vanilla seeds in the secondary for two weeks.  I'll say that it was maybe a little over the top on vanilla flavor but not by much.  I think if I did it again maybe I'd decrease the time.

Edit - Just realized I quoted Denny's recipes twice in a short amount of time.  Not sucking up here, I was just on TB at the time I brewed them and was happy with the results!  But yes, I shamelessly copied the recipes.
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: bonjour on November 27, 2009, 04:09:16 AM
Good to know but there will be no bourbon in this beer so the vanilla should come thru differently

Fred
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: tygo on November 27, 2009, 04:13:02 AM
Not sure how much vanilla you're going for here but if you're just looking for a hint I'd think that going with one bean might be best.
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: a10t2 on November 27, 2009, 04:17:56 AM
If the beans are fresh and/or high quality, I would start with one. Two is just overkill IME. I just split them lengthwise and chop into a few pieces, then add to the secondary. I would start tasting after a week but depending on how much vanilla flavor you want, it will probably be 2-3 in the secondary.
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: denny on November 27, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
Good to know but there will be no bourbon in this beer so the vanilla should come thru differently

Fred

There's no bourbon in my recipe until well after the beans have been in, so I'm pretty familiar with how just the vanilla tastes.  I use 2 fresh beans.  I split then lengthwise, scrape out all the seeds inside, chop the pods into 2-3 in. pieces, and add it all. seeds and pods, to the secondary.  I leave it anywhere from a week to 2 weeks, tasting along the way til it's where I like it.  I generally let it go til it's a bit on the heavy side since it fades quickly, I've found.  The vanilla should complement the beer, not make you go "WOW, VANILLA!"
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: bonjour on November 27, 2009, 05:38:25 PM
Thanks Denny,

This will be for my daughters wedding and she doesn't like bourbon beers, but loves vanilla porters


Fred
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: babalu87 on November 27, 2009, 07:30:02 PM
I generally let it go til it's a bit on the heavy side since it fades quickly, I've found.  The vanilla should complement the beer, not make you go "WOW, VANILLA!"

The good thing about too much vanilla is it fades given some time.
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: hamiltont on November 27, 2009, 07:34:19 PM
Thanks Denny,

This will be for my daughters wedding and she doesn't like bourbon beers, but loves vanilla porters


Fred

If you're kegging it you can always add more in the keg.  A stainless steel tea ball works great!!  It's also a nice way to freshen up the vanilla flavor if the keg sits around longer than planned.
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: bluesman on November 30, 2009, 07:43:47 PM
I just racked some of Denny's VBIP into the secondary over 3 Madagasgar Vanilla Bean pods that were scraped. First time making this beer. It sure tastes great out of the hydrometer tube....and those vanilla beans smell wonderful.  8)

At first I thought my finishing gravity of 1.024 was high until I remembered that I started at 1.089 AND the amount of unfermentables was significant in the recipe.
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: denny on November 30, 2009, 07:55:34 PM
1.024 is right on the money.
Title: Re: Vanilla in a porter
Post by: bluesman on November 30, 2009, 09:14:36 PM
1.024 is right on the money.

That's good to know. This beer has some horsepower...let me tell you.  8)