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Title: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: oscarvan on December 27, 2010, 11:31:15 PM
So my aunty tells me today one of the Grolsch execs is a friend. He proudly tells her they get "fresh yeast" every two weeks. Yea, with all the crap they add it goes nuts after the second batch. Local brew pub has been nursing the same strain for 25 years.... wit REAL beer it's doing just fine.....
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: phillamb168 on December 28, 2010, 07:51:33 AM
So my aunty tells me today one of the Grolsch execs is a friend. He proudly tells her they get "fresh yeast" every two weeks. Yea, with all the crap they add it goes nuts after the second batch. Local brew pub has been nursing the same strain for 25 years.... wit REAL beer it's doing just fine.....

But don't you KNOW!?!?!?! Fresh is BETTER!

I am a fan of Grolsch because the drunks on the train usually drink that, and then leave the bottles lying around, so I take 'em home and bottle with them and the flip-top means I don't have to buy crown caps anymore. Only problem is the green glass. Boo.
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: toddhert on December 28, 2010, 10:53:33 PM
Just curious, what 'crap' do they add? I was told that Grolsch is one of the few non-german beers that adheres to the reinheitsgebot, meaning it would be made with only barley, hops, water, and yeast. Not a huge Grolsch fan, but I'll take that over most American beers.
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: oscarvan on December 29, 2010, 12:52:38 AM
The Reinheitsgebot has been repealed.
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: majorvices on December 29, 2010, 04:00:30 AM
. Local brew pub has been nursing the same strain for 25 years.... wit REAL beer it's doing just fine.....

Is that kinda like the old hamburger shop not changing their deep fry grease for 25 years?  ;) Seriously, without a really knowledgeable person and a highly technical lab I'm not sure how they could pull that off.
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: EHall on December 29, 2010, 04:39:22 PM
They filter it daily and top it off when needed with fresh oil...
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: Joe Sr. on December 30, 2010, 06:15:24 PM
Only problem is the green glass. Boo.

I have some OLD Grolsh bottles that are actually brown.  These are not the ez-cap bottles, but ones I inherited from a friends father who used to brew.  They still had labels on them and everything.

Don't know when they switched to green, but other than color the bottles are identical.
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: jeffy on December 30, 2010, 06:39:44 PM
Only problem is the green glass. Boo.

I have some OLD Grolsh bottles that are actually brown.  These are not the ez-cap bottles, but ones I inherited from a friends father who used to brew.  They still had labels on them and everything.

Don't know when they switched to green, but other than color the bottles are identical.

They used to put the Autumn Amber in brown swing-tops, but I haven't seen that in a long time.
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: Hokerer on December 30, 2010, 06:53:51 PM
Yeah, I've got a couple of their brown swing-tops that are (except for the color, obviously) identical to all the "greenies" of theirs I have.  Even have the "Grolsch" labelling on the top.
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: denny on December 30, 2010, 07:17:56 PM
A friend found a case of brown Grolsch swingtops in a wooden case with wrought iron hinges and latch at a garage sale.  He bought it for me for $2!
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: Joe Sr. on December 30, 2010, 07:35:14 PM
They used to put the Autumn Amber in brown swing-tops, but I haven't seen that in a long time.

They could be from Autumn Amber.  They had small green labels on the neck and that was it.  It don't recall if the labels even said "grolsch", but the ceramic stoppers do.

I'm a geek for old bottles.  What can I say?
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: toddhert on January 02, 2011, 08:57:57 PM
The Reinheitsgebot has been repealed.

That may be true, but it's still displayed proudly in Germany!
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: oscarvan on January 04, 2011, 04:36:48 AM
The Reinheitsgebot has been repealed.

That may be true, but it's still displayed proudly in Germany!

Well, the temptation is proving too great. Export beers now regularly contain adjuncts.
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: toddhert on January 09, 2011, 02:23:58 AM
The Reinheitsgebot has been repealed.

That may be true, but it's still displayed proudly in Germany!

Well, the temptation is proving too great. Export beers now regularly contain adjuncts.

Really? Do you know which beers? I don't really drink much imported beer because its usually old and in green bottles. But there are a few (Augustiner Helles, St. Georgen kellerbier, for example) that I will buy, but I highly doubt they have adjuncts in them. I like the Reinheitsgebot simply because I am one of those weirdos who likes to define things. I like beer made from 'beery' ingredients. I don't like fruit or peanut butter, or whatever else in my beer. So, the reinheitsgebot fits my tastes! People can put what they like in their drinks, but to me, beer is malt, hops, and water!
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: uthristy on January 09, 2011, 07:55:12 PM
So, the reinheitsgebot fits my tastes! People can put what they like in their drinks, but to me, beer is malt, hops, and water!

So I guess your not big on Belgian beers?  ::) 


oh and you can't make beer without yeast......
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: toddhert on January 21, 2011, 11:31:25 PM
So, the reinheitsgebot fits my tastes! People can put what they like in their drinks, but to me, beer is malt, hops, and water!

So I guess your not big on Belgian beers?  ::) 


oh and you can't make beer without yeast......

I like some belgian beers.  I actually like kriek alot, but wouldn't put it into what my idea of 'beer ' is.

I left out yeast because when the reinheitsgebot was written people didn't know about yeast yet, therefore yeast was not included as an ingredient.

I feel the same way about beer as I do about what I call 'new age pizza'. You know, the 'pizza's that have walnuts and cherrys and all sorts of crap, but no tomato sauce and mozzerella! It's just no what I call a pizza!
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: dean on January 23, 2011, 08:10:37 PM
So, the reinheitsgebot fits my tastes! People can put what they like in their drinks, but to me, beer is malt, hops, and water!

So I guess your not big on Belgian beers?  ::) 


oh and you can't make beer without yeast......

How long did it take them to figure out that wild yeast were fermenting their beer?  Also... what about other critters?   ;)
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: denny on January 23, 2011, 08:21:42 PM
Pasteur figured it out in the mid 1800s.
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: toddhert on February 01, 2011, 03:37:05 PM
Pasteur figured it out in the mid 1800s.

Hmm.. I thought Calrsberg discovered it. Maybe they discovered lager yeast?
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: toddhert on February 01, 2011, 03:45:45 PM
Ok, Calsberg seperated wild yeast from so called "good" yeast.

Here's a pretty interesting link if anyone is interested.
http://www.carlsberggroup.com/Experience/Timeline/Pages/1883Carlsberg%20developspureyeast.aspx
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: jeffy on February 01, 2011, 04:53:28 PM
Pasteur figured it out in the mid 1800s.

Hmm.. I thought Calrsberg discovered it. Maybe they discovered lager yeast?

Emil Hansen isolated lager yeast when working for Carlsberg.
Title: Re: Grolsch smolsch....
Post by: tschmidlin on February 01, 2011, 05:32:01 PM
A lot of scientific advancements came out of Carlsberg Labs.  How to determine protein content (still used today), pH scale, several yeast genetics advances including mating type switching and mendelian gene segregation . . . really, a ton of great science coming out of the study of beer!