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Title: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on January 10, 2011, 03:10:32 PM
It's getting near that time of year when I need to put on the Wellies and make sure the rototiller is still working. What are you planning on doing in your garden/fire escape/desktop this year?

We claimed some land next to the railroad (space that's typically common-law'd into gardening space for village residents), 50 feet x 35 feet plot for us. There are lots of gardens all around that are about the same size and almost all the space is claimed, but we're taking an area that's overgrown with lots of God-knows-what. Wish I had a brush hog.

Plans are as follows: clear the land, put down paving stones and a small tin-roof shed, get a water collector and some simple drip irrigation set up, build two hop trelli (treillisisis?), build a porch swing, then do some plantin':

Cascade, Centennial, Hallertauer something hops, 2-row barley (1m x 4m patch, just an experiment), Carrots, Three sisters (sweet corn, pole beans, acorn and summer squash), lots of tomatoes, lots of eggplant, "vertical" potatoes (make a cylinder out of bailing wire and 1x2 supports, keep raising the soil level as the plants grow = small footprint with lots of yield), jalapenos, pumpkin, and then line the walkway with lavender, sage, rosemary, thyme.

LOTS of work but I told my wife if she lets me get a deep freezer I'll make sure we have vegetables to put in it.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on January 10, 2011, 03:27:53 PM
After the last decade of my 1/4 acre garden drying up every year due to drought I have swore never to go to that trouble again.

That being said, it will consist of the usual corn, squash, peppers, cukes, onions, turnips, collards, mustard, etc...

This year going to add about 6 each of Zinfandel and muscadine vines. Going to set these up w/drip irrigation. 
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tumarkin on January 10, 2011, 03:48:18 PM
We moved 2 years ago, after doing a small organic garden (approx 25x25) for many years at the old place. The new house has a MUCH smaller yard, and our 80 dog has the run of most of it. I am considering doing some container plantings (she'd run over and destroy any ground or raised bed plantings). Thinking about hot peppers, arugula, tomatoes, some herbs, etc. No firm plans yet, but thanks for the question. It should spur me to do some research & make some decisions.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on January 10, 2011, 03:57:31 PM
After the last decade of my 1/4 acre garden drying up every year due to drought I have swore never to go to that trouble again.

That being said, it will consist of the usual corn, squash, peppers, cukes, onions, turnips, collards, mustard, etc...

This year going to add about 6 each of Zinfandel and muscadine vines. Going to set these up w/drip irrigation. 

I'm curious as to what sort of system you use with the drip irrigation. We don't have a water supply other than the gravity-fed water barrels, and I was thinking about building a small actuator to attach between the spigot and the hose, adding a solar panel for power and a really basic arduino-like controller for the timer. Do you know of anything like that that already exists?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: alikocho on January 10, 2011, 04:03:18 PM
I'm still trying to mostly get perennials in, as this means less work in the future. Even so, this would mean I will miss some good annuals so some will go in. The plan this year is to do some different kinds of beans, some broccoli and squash.

I also want to get some new varieties of hops in, but can't make my mind up which varieties to go for.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: Hokerer on January 10, 2011, 04:08:13 PM
That being said, it will consist of the usual corn, squash, peppers, cukes, onions, turnips, collards, mustard, etc...

no 'maters?  would have thought everyone's "usual" would include 'maters.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: 1vertical on January 10, 2011, 04:19:00 PM
I have ordered up a bunch of Asparagus crowns. I have built a nice deep asparagus bed and lined it with
weed barrier to keep out the roots of the field bindweed.  In a couple three years, should be a great thing.

Then we will plant some Yellow Pear tomatoes, maybe a roma.  Some lettuce leaf.
Some yellow crookneck summer squash and some zuchinni.  We love peppas but the season just isn't long enuff.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on January 10, 2011, 04:36:04 PM
After the last decade of my 1/4 acre garden drying up every year due to drought I have swore never to go to that trouble again.

That being said, it will consist of the usual corn, squash, peppers, cukes, onions, turnips, collards, mustard, etc...

This year going to add about 6 each of Zinfandel and muscadine vines. Going to set these up w/drip irrigation. 

I'm curious as to what sort of system you use with the drip irrigation. We don't have a water supply other than the gravity-fed water barrels, and I was thinking about building a small actuator to attach between the spigot and the hose, adding a solar panel for power and a really basic arduino-like controller for the timer. Do you know of anything like that that already exists?

This is the system I'll be using: http://www.iriso.fr/uk/ Anybody use it before? It's pretty cheap! http://www.amazon.fr/o/ASIN/B00374J3YU?tag=betteraddons-20
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on January 10, 2011, 04:42:09 PM
After the last decade of my 1/4 acre garden drying up every year due to drought I have swore never to go to that trouble again.

That being said, it will consist of the usual corn, squash, peppers, cukes, onions, turnips, collards, mustard, etc...

This year going to add about 6 each of Zinfandel and muscadine vines. Going to set these up w/drip irrigation. 

I'm curious as to what sort of system you use with the drip irrigation. We don't have a water supply other than the gravity-fed water barrels, and I was thinking about building a small actuator to attach between the spigot and the hose, adding a solar panel for power and a really basic arduino-like controller for the timer. Do you know of anything like that that already exists?

This is the system I'll be using: http://www.iriso.fr/uk/ Anybody use it before? It's pretty cheap! http://www.amazon.fr/o/ASIN/B00374J3YU?tag=betteraddons-20

 I'm looking at this source

http://www.dripirrigation.com/
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on January 10, 2011, 04:42:50 PM
That being said, it will consist of the usual corn, squash, peppers, cukes, onions, turnips, collards, mustard, etc...

no 'maters?  would have thought everyone's "usual" would include 'maters.

 Oh yes. 'Maters, plenty of 'maters.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on January 10, 2011, 04:47:05 PM
After the last decade of my 1/4 acre garden drying up every year due to drought I have swore never to go to that trouble again.

That being said, it will consist of the usual corn, squash, peppers, cukes, onions, turnips, collards, mustard, etc...

This year going to add about 6 each of Zinfandel and muscadine vines. Going to set these up w/drip irrigation. 

I'm curious as to what sort of system you use with the drip irrigation. We don't have a water supply other than the gravity-fed water barrels, and I was thinking about building a small actuator to attach between the spigot and the hose, adding a solar panel for power and a really basic arduino-like controller for the timer. Do you know of anything like that that already exists?

This is the system I'll be using: http://www.iriso.fr/uk/ Anybody use it before? It's pretty cheap! http://www.amazon.fr/o/ASIN/B00374J3YU?tag=betteraddons-20

 I'm looking at this source

http://www.dripirrigation.com/

Oooh, that's exactly what I need... Can each dripper be controlled, or is it all at a set rate?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on January 10, 2011, 05:34:27 PM
I believe each dripper can be a different rate. one @ 1 gal/hr for one type plant and another @ 1/2 gal/hr for another...all on the same line. The systems seems to be very customizable.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on January 10, 2011, 05:55:34 PM
For annuals we'll have a bunch of different tomatoes and hot peppers, as usual.  Someone gave me a bhut jolokia (hottest pepper in the world) starter kit, so I'm excited to see if they'll grow and fruit here in our short growing season.  We'll also plant some pole beas, peas, carrots, and a few other things that aren't determined yet.  The leeks and garlic are already in the ground. :)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on January 10, 2011, 06:16:03 PM
I did container planting last year. In the drought/heat conditions it was a real PITA with no drip system. A big wind would knock down all my tomatoes. My yield was pretty decent despite that and the pests and birds.

This year it will be raised beds. I hope to try a dripper system.

Tomatoes, serranos, jalapenos, poblano, cucumbers, bush beans, corn and maybe some greens. I was able to successfully sprout and grow chili petins last year. They said it couldn't be done but the secret is heat. :D They'll only germinate in very warm conditions.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on January 10, 2011, 07:04:37 PM
After the last decade of my 1/4 acre garden drying up every year due to drought I have swore never to go to that trouble again.

That being said, it will consist of the usual corn, squash, peppers, cukes, onions, turnips, collards, mustard, etc...

This year going to add about 6 each of Zinfandel and muscadine vines. Going to set these up w/drip irrigation. 

I'm curious as to what sort of system you use with the drip irrigation. We don't have a water supply other than the gravity-fed water barrels, and I was thinking about building a small actuator to attach between the spigot and the hose, adding a solar panel for power and a really basic arduino-like controller for the timer. Do you know of anything like that that already exists?

This is the system I'll be using: http://www.iriso.fr/uk/ Anybody use it before? It's pretty cheap! http://www.amazon.fr/o/ASIN/B00374J3YU?tag=betteraddons-20

 I'm looking at this source

http://www.dripirrigation.com/

Oooh, that's exactly what I need... Can each dripper be controlled, or is it all at a set rate?


Gravity fed system for rain barrels:

http://www.dripirrigation.com/drip_irrigation_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=1075
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: EHall on January 10, 2011, 08:31:40 PM
hahahah, you colder climate folks... here in AZ, we tend to our gardens in the winter when stuff will actually grow!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on January 10, 2011, 08:47:51 PM
For annuals we'll have a bunch of different tomatoes and hot peppers, as usual.  Someone gave me a bhut jolokia (hottest pepper in the world) starter kit, so I'm excited to see if they'll grow and fruit here in our short growing season.  We'll also plant some pole beas, peas, carrots, and a few other things that aren't determined yet.  The leeks and garlic are already in the ground. :)

I've got some Bhut Jolokia hot sauce that I bought from Germany. You will know the wrath of God if you eat one.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on January 10, 2011, 08:49:24 PM
I did container planting last year. In the drought/heat conditions it was a real PITA with no drip system. A big wind would knock down all my tomatoes. My yield was pretty decent despite that and the pests and birds.

This year it will be raised beds. I hope to try a dripper system.

Tomatoes, serranos, jalapenos, poblano, cucumbers, bush beans, corn and maybe some greens. I was able to successfully sprout and grow chili petins last year. They said it couldn't be done but the secret is heat. :D They'll only germinate in very warm conditions.

Say, I don't suppose I could get you to mail me a few packets of poblano, serrano and jalapeno seeds? I can't find them here, at least not anywhere that looks reputable.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on January 10, 2011, 08:57:09 PM
Sure PM me.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on January 10, 2011, 09:26:33 PM
I did container planting last year. In the drought/heat conditions it was a real PITA with no drip system. A big wind would knock down all my tomatoes. My yield was pretty decent despite that and the pests and birds.

This year it will be raised beds. I hope to try a dripper system.

Tomatoes, serranos, jalapenos, poblano, cucumbers, bush beans, corn and maybe some greens. I was able to successfully sprout and grow chili petins last year. They said it couldn't be done but the secret is heat. :D They'll only germinate in very warm conditions.

Say, I don't suppose I could get you to mail me a few packets of poblano, serrano and jalapeno seeds? I can't find them here, at least not anywhere that looks reputable.

Here are some pretty good sources I've used before. Hope Monsanto doesn't sue me.

http://rareseeds.com/

http://www.seedsavers.org/

http://www.organicaseed.com/

Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: alikocho on January 10, 2011, 09:29:25 PM
I did container planting last year. In the drought/heat conditions it was a real PITA with no drip system. A big wind would knock down all my tomatoes. My yield was pretty decent despite that and the pests and birds.

This year it will be raised beds. I hope to try a dripper system.

Tomatoes, serranos, jalapenos, poblano, cucumbers, bush beans, corn and maybe some greens. I was able to successfully sprout and grow chili petins last year. They said it couldn't be done but the secret is heat. :D They'll only germinate in very warm conditions.

Say, I don't suppose I could get you to mail me a few packets of poblano, serrano and jalapeno seeds? I can't find them here, at least not anywhere that looks reputable.

Here are some pretty good sources I've used before. Hope Monsanto doesn't sue me.

http://rareseeds.com/

http://www.seedsavers.org/

http://www.organicaseed.com/



I really like the Baker Creek (rareseeds.com) selection. They have some pretty interesting stuff, and I just bought a whole load from them. My BIL even orders some stuff from them for his small farming concern in Winnipeg
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on January 10, 2011, 09:29:51 PM
That being said, it will consist of the usual corn, squash, peppers, cukes, onions, turnips, collards, mustard, etc...

no 'maters?  would have thought everyone's "usual" would include 'maters.

 Oh yes. 'Maters, plenty of 'maters.

 Got where I'm partial to Romas. They have fairly thick skins and I pressure can most of the 'maters except for the larger varieties for eating fresh off the vine for sandwiches and such. The romas makes great sauces and salsa.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: corkybstewart on January 10, 2011, 10:43:00 PM
I have plenty of hop bines this year, most will have been in place at least 3 years so if the grasshoppers don't eat them I'll get hops.  I'll also put tomatoes, garlic, onion, jalapenos, spinach and radishes.  All our friends plant squash so I'll just eat theirs.  We're not taking a month vacation this year so I'll be around to tend the garden.  Last year my daughter pretty much let everything die while we were away, and what didn't die got eaten by swarms of grasshoppers.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: kerneldustjacket on January 11, 2011, 12:21:06 AM
Peppers: jalapeños, Tabasco, cowhorn, sweet banana, hot banana.
Mostly jalapeños, as they're so good in things like corn bread and chili and grits and so on! Plus, remove the seeds and ribs, slice into strips, and dehydrate...then crush into a powder and you have a taste of them year-round.  8)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on January 11, 2011, 05:04:22 AM
For annuals we'll have a bunch of different tomatoes and hot peppers, as usual.  Someone gave me a bhut jolokia (hottest pepper in the world) starter kit, so I'm excited to see if they'll grow and fruit here in our short growing season.  We'll also plant some pole beas, peas, carrots, and a few other things that aren't determined yet.  The leeks and garlic are already in the ground. :)
I've got some Bhut Jolokia hot sauce that I bought from Germany. You will know the wrath of God if you eat one.
I'm looking forward to it :)


Say, I don't suppose I could get you to mail me a few packets of poblano, serrano and jalapeno seeds? I can't find them here, at least not anywhere that looks reputable.
I get most of my hot pepper seeds from reimerseeds.com, they have a huge selection.  The ones I've gotten have germinated very well following their directions.
(http://reimerseeds.com/peppers-hot_623.aspx)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: akr71 on January 11, 2011, 01:53:23 PM
This will be the 3rd seaseon for our veggie garden - I noticed a huge improvement in the soil last year and I hope the trend continues this year.  Mostly the regulars for me - tomatoes, potatos, cucumbers, peas, beans, carrots, lettuce.  I have a really hard time with bell peppers, but last year the cayenne and banana peppers were great  ???  I may do pumpkins again, but might put them (and corn) in the town's community garden so the pumpkins don't take over the backyard.

Its the second year for my Mt. Hood, Zeus and Goldings.  I have to build a better trellis system for them.  I'd also like to build some cold-frames to give my hops and a few other things a jump start on our short growing season.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: majorvices on January 11, 2011, 02:08:28 PM
Small garden here. I let mine go fallow last year (no time) but I am planning on putting in several varieties of tomatoes and chillies, okra, pole beans and a spice garden.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: kerneldustjacket on January 11, 2011, 04:47:54 PM
Small garden here. I let mine go fallow last year (no time) but I am planning on putting in several varieties of tomatoes and chillies, okra, pole beans and a spice garden.

Okra....yeah, I should put in a dozen plants. To me, they are best at 2" long; pick, steam, and sprinkle with parmeasian cheese...awesome!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: loopy on January 11, 2011, 08:33:54 PM
I am going to start my dixie cup garden this weekend.  basically, I have found that 16 plastic dixie cups fit exactly inside a used milk crate.  In each cup I cut a few slits on the bottom, fill half with potting soil, and write the plant on it in sharpie.  5 or 6 crates later I have my starters for the year ready.  If it gets cold I pick up the crates and move them to the garage, if it's nice they get some sun. 

I have been doing all heirloom for the past 3 years, and will continue this year.  tomatoes, cherry tomatoes, cucumbers, yellow squash, carrots and the peppers, man I love the peppers.  letsee, habanero, white habanerro, cayenne, serrano, japalpenos, bell peppers, chili pequin, ghost peppers, thai chili peppers and italian bananna peppers. 
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: corkybstewart on January 11, 2011, 08:47:59 PM
I did container planting last year. In the drought/heat conditions it was a real PITA with no drip system. A big wind would knock down all my tomatoes. My yield was pretty decent despite that and the pests and birds.

This year it will be raised beds. I hope to try a dripper system.

Tomatoes, serranos, jalapenos, poblano, cucumbers, bush beans, corn and maybe some greens. I was able to successfully sprout and grow chili petins last year. They said it couldn't be done but the secret is heat. :D They'll only germinate in very warm conditions.

Say, I don't suppose I could get you to mail me a few packets of poblano, serrano and jalapeno seeds? I can't find them here, at least not anywhere that looks reputable.
My inlaws have tried growing peppers in France.  They won't grow outdoors because of the short, cool growing season, but maybe if you give them a good start indoors and get them in the ground as early as possible they may work.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on January 11, 2011, 11:03:33 PM
Say, I don't suppose I could get you to mail me a few packets of poblano, serrano and jalapeno seeds? I can't find them here, at least not anywhere that looks reputable.
My inlaws have tried growing peppers in France.  They won't grow outdoors because of the short, cool growing season, but maybe if you give them a good start indoors and get them in the ground as early as possible they may work.
If it's a big problem then don't put them in the ground at all, just grow them in containers.  Peppers do really well that way.  And don't put them out too early, you have to wait for it to be warm enough or they will get stunted and be even more delayed.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: bluesman on January 12, 2011, 12:22:21 AM
The usual. Tomatoes, cucumbers, squash, zuchini, green beans, cabbage, lettuce, an assortment of peppers and this year I want to plant some asparagas.

Oh...I can't forget the fresh herbs. Parsley, dill, oregeno, cilantro, etc...
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: boulderbrewer on January 12, 2011, 03:12:38 AM
Corky try some animals like chickens,turkeys or ducks for grasshopper control. the only thing we won't try to grow are habeneros got plenty last year for the next couple years. We are going to incorperate the turkeys in the garden but will have to keep the real garden fenced in to prevent damage. Here is to hoping that the broilers and the turkeys turn over the soil in the rest of the area.

I almost forgot Blueberries starting a half dozen plants hopefully they with take in the frozen tundra. Blueberry wine yummmm!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on January 12, 2011, 06:41:32 AM
Well if we're including our annuals . . . black currants, blueberries, concord grapes, kiwis, apple, sour cherry, asian plum, fig, hops (cascade, tetts, and goldings), rosemary, thyme, oregano, winter savory, mint, tarragon.  I think that's it.  Do heather and juniper count if I use them to brew? :)  Oh, and I'll plant some basil.  And I need to replace a rhubarb.  And I might get a pear or nectarine tree, more grapes, maybe some sea buckthorn and some filberts.  Or I might wait a year on those.

I'm thinking about making a beer with whole douglas fir trees instead of juniper.  They sprout like weeds, I think I could use 10 or 20 in the mash tun to filter. ;D
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on January 12, 2011, 06:46:51 AM
Say, I don't suppose I could get you to mail me a few packets of poblano, serrano and jalapeno seeds? I can't find them here, at least not anywhere that looks reputable.
My inlaws have tried growing peppers in France.  They won't grow outdoors because of the short, cool growing season, but maybe if you give them a good start indoors and get them in the ground as early as possible they may work.
If it's a big problem then don't put them in the ground at all, just grow them in containers.  Peppers do really well that way.  And don't put them out too early, you have to wait for it to be warm enough or they will get stunted and be even more delayed.

Once they're thriving then full hot sun for as long as possible everyday. When sprouting/seedlings and after use the black pots. We may have discussed this before Phil. Uncover them in the late afternoon when the sun isn't so direct.

Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on January 12, 2011, 02:37:12 PM
Say, I don't suppose I could get you to mail me a few packets of poblano, serrano and jalapeno seeds? I can't find them here, at least not anywhere that looks reputable.
My inlaws have tried growing peppers in France.  They won't grow outdoors because of the short, cool growing season, but maybe if you give them a good start indoors and get them in the ground as early as possible they may work.
If it's a big problem then don't put them in the ground at all, just grow them in containers.  Peppers do really well that way.  And don't put them out too early, you have to wait for it to be warm enough or they will get stunted and be even more delayed.

Once they're thriving then full hot sun for as long as possible everyday. When sprouting/seedlings and after use the black pots. We may have discussed this before Phil. Uncover them in the late afternoon when the sun isn't so direct.

Yup, I remember from earlier. FWIW I bought young pepper plants (piment d'esplette) last year and they did really well. We just recently finished the hot sauce.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: akr71 on January 12, 2011, 02:47:48 PM
Oh yeah..

We've got about 5 blueberry plants and 3 or 4 raspberry plants.  The raspberries will be in their second year - hopefully they wintered OK.  The strawberries are slowly taking over the backyard, but I'm ok with that - we picked at least 3 quarts last year, not counting the ones that went straight into the kids' mouths.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: majorvices on January 13, 2011, 02:16:02 PM
Small garden here. I let mine go fallow last year (no time) but I am planning on putting in several varieties of tomatoes and chillies, okra, pole beans and a spice garden.

Okra....yeah, I should put in a dozen plants. To me, they are best at 2" long; pick, steam, and sprinkle with parmeasian cheese...awesome!

Dredged in cornmeal and pan fried here. Along with some green tomatoes. Doesn't get better than that.  ;D
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on January 13, 2011, 04:21:04 PM
Small garden here. I let mine go fallow last year (no time) but I am planning on putting in several varieties of tomatoes and chillies, okra, pole beans and a spice garden.

Okra....yeah, I should put in a dozen plants. To me, they are best at 2" long; pick, steam, and sprinkle with parmeasian cheese...awesome!

Dredged in cornmeal and pan fried here. Along with some green tomatoes. Doesn't get better than that.  ;D

May I suggest said fried green tomatoes served on a biscuit with crispy bacon, poached egg and some sawmill gravy? Country Eggs Benedict bien sur.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: majorvices on January 13, 2011, 04:37:00 PM
Small garden here. I let mine go fallow last year (no time) but I am planning on putting in several varieties of tomatoes and chillies, okra, pole beans and a spice garden.

Okra....yeah, I should put in a dozen plants. To me, they are best at 2" long; pick, steam, and sprinkle with parmeasian cheese...awesome!

Dredged in cornmeal and pan fried here. Along with some green tomatoes. Doesn't get better than that.  ;D

May I suggest said fried green tomatoes served on a biscuit with crispy bacon, poached egg and some sawmill gravy? Country Eggs Benedict bien sur.

GREAT SUGGESTION! Edit: With Jalepeno cheese grits as a side!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: beerocd on January 14, 2011, 02:02:23 AM
Small garden here. I let mine go fallow last year (no time) but I am planning on putting in several varieties of tomatoes and chillies, okra, pole beans and a spice garden.

Okra....yeah, I should put in a dozen plants. To me, they are best at 2" long; pick, steam, and sprinkle with parmeasian cheese...awesome!


Dredged in cornmeal and pan fried here. Along with some green tomatoes. Doesn't get better than that.  ;D

May I suggest said fried green tomatoes served on a biscuit with crispy bacon, poached egg and some sawmill gravy? Country Eggs Benedict bien sur.

GREAT SUGGESTION! Edit: With Jalepeno cheese grits as a side!

Only thing you could possibly add is a breakfast stout.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: majorvices on January 14, 2011, 12:52:27 PM
Breakfast perfection.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on January 23, 2011, 05:14:55 AM
It's spring pretty much all year round here.  I’ve got a nice size piece of ground, and a big part of why I live here is to grow things.   I plant and harvest continually, so it's easier just to list what I have growing.  These are my food plants.  Flowers and stuff later if you’re interested…

Avocado
Banana
Basil
Carambolla (Star Fruit)
Celery
Chives
Cilantro
Citrus: 
  Duncan and Ruby Red grapefruit
  Eureka lemon
  Bearss and Key lime
  Blood, Navel and Valencia oranges
  Pommelo
  Dancy and Murcott tangerines

Coconut
Coffee
Coriander
Garlic
Green onion
Guava
Hibiscus
Horseradish
Jaboticaba
Lychee
Mango
Mangosteen
Mint
Mirliton
Lilikoi (passion fruit)
Loquat
Papaya
Parsley
Peppers:
  Bell
  Cayenne
  Ghost
  Habanero
  Jalapeno
  Poblano
  Serano
  Thai

Rosemary
Pineapple
Sage
Tea
Thyme
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on January 24, 2011, 01:48:07 AM
Forgot to list oregano.  Thinking about starting some mustard and collards.

BTW Ghost pepper = Naga Jolokia = Bhut Jolokai = ATOMIC!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on January 24, 2011, 05:10:51 AM
Forgot to list oregano.  Thinking about starting some mustard and collards.

BTW Ghost pepper = Naga Jolokia = Bhut Jolokai = ATOMIC!
I'm very jealous punatic, but surely there's something I can grow here that you can't grow there.  Like hops :)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on January 24, 2011, 06:25:38 AM
Forgot to list oregano.  Thinking about starting some mustard and collards.

BTW Ghost pepper = Naga Jolokia = Bhut Jolokai = ATOMIC!
I'm very jealous punatic, but surely there's something I can grow here that you can't grow there.  Like hops :)

No can.  Way too wet for hops a my house.  But I suspect that there is somewhere on this island that can.  We have all but two of the world's climatic zones here (http://www.to-hawaii.com/climate.php).  Now, if I can just figure out where the Willamette-like zone is... ;)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on January 24, 2011, 06:53:14 AM
No can.  Way too wet for hops a my house.  But I suspect that there is somewhere on this island that can.  We have all but two of the world's climatic zones here (http://www.to-hawaii.com/climate.php).  Now, if I can just figure out where the Willamette-like zone is... ;)
I don't think you're allowed to bring them to the islands, that's what I was getting at :)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on January 24, 2011, 12:31:09 PM
Avocado
Banana
Basil
Carambolla (Star Fruit)
Celery
Chives
Cilantro
Citrus: 
  Duncan and Ruby Red grapefruit
  Eureka lemon
  Bearss and Key lime
  Blood, Navel and Valencia oranges
  Pommelo
  Dancy and Murcott tangerines

Coconut
Coffee
Coriander
Garlic
Green onion
Guava
Hibiscus
Horseradish
Jaboticaba
Lychee
Mango
Mangosteen
Mint
Mirliton
Lilikoi (passion fruit)
Loquat
Papaya
Parsley
Peppers:
  Bell
  Cayenne
  Ghost
  Habanero
  Jalapeno
  Poblano
  Serano
  Thai

Rosemary
Pineapple
Sage
Tea
Thyme


*Longing Sigh*
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on January 30, 2011, 07:26:56 PM
I'm going to lay out my 6'x3' raised bed this week. Was wondering about orientation and the Sun's arc of travel to get the maximum coverage for my plants.

West-East or North-South?

Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on January 30, 2011, 07:35:06 PM
 Tubercle recommends the 6' length E-W if multiple plants of different type in the same bed with the shortest plants south and tallest north.

  If the same plants in the same bed then 6' length N-S to get good E-W coverage.

  Pick your spot and watch the 10am -2pm coverage. That's what you want.

 No scientific sources to cite. Just what I would do.

 
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on January 30, 2011, 07:38:38 PM
It depends on what you plan to grow euge, I do mine parallel to the sun so I can grow tall stuff in the back and short stuff in the front.  Then again, at only 3' wide you might not really have a front/back, so it might not matter too much.  I would only put two pepper plants in a 6'x3' bed, maybe 4 if they were a compact variety.  And those beds are small enough that you don't need to worry about prevailing winds and air circulation as long as you don't plant too densely.  

Bottom line, I think you're ok either way, but we'll see what other people say.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: redbeerman on January 30, 2011, 09:05:55 PM
Small garden here. I let mine go fallow last year (no time) but I am planning on putting in several varieties of tomatoes and chillies, okra, pole beans and a spice garden.

Okra....yeah, I should put in a dozen plants. To me, they are best at 2" long; pick, steam, and sprinkle with parmeasian cheese...awesome!

They are also quite awesome roasted.  And pickled.  With hot peppers, of course. ;D
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: redbeerman on January 30, 2011, 09:09:47 PM
The usual. Tomatoes, cucumbers, squash, zuchini, green beans, cabbage, lettuce, an assortment of peppers and this year I want to plant some asparagas.

Oh...I can't forget the fresh herbs. Parsley, dill, oregeno, cilantro, etc...

I am so burned out on summer squash.  We've had asparagus for about five years.  You can't beat 'em fresh.  Hope to get some scotch bonnets again this year. :o
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on January 30, 2011, 09:10:36 PM
Tubercle puts up about 20 quarts of HOT pickle okra every year. Eats them like candy ;D
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: redbeerman on January 30, 2011, 09:12:51 PM
Tubercle puts up about 20 quarts of HOT pickle okra every year. Eats them like candy ;D

They go fast at my house, too.  My daughter likes 'em extra spicy, as do I.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: rabid_dingo on February 01, 2011, 01:47:13 AM
Anyone ever plant Tea trees for, well, TEA? (meant to ask this a while ago.)

I am stickin to the usual suspects. I tried a variety of letuce last year
and it was a flop...
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: boulderbrewer on February 01, 2011, 03:00:17 AM
Growing the animals, not much of a vegetable growing season for us but will get the beans,cucumber,potatoes, tomatoes, squash, zuccini and the cooking herbs going.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on February 01, 2011, 04:29:23 AM
Anyone ever plant Tea trees for, well, TEA? (meant to ask this a while ago.)

I am stickin to the usual suspects. I tried a variety of letuce last year
and it was a flop...

Yes I grow tea, but it comes in bush form.  You harvest the new growth.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on February 19, 2011, 11:24:47 PM

This year going to add about 6 each of Zinfandel and muscadine vines. Going to set these up w/drip irrigation. 

 6 Zinfandels in the ground today. Still waiting on the muscadines to be delivered.

 Plus planted 1 red delicious and 1 golden delicious apple trees and an olive tree of all things. They say they will grow around here. We'll see.

 
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: brewmasternpb on February 19, 2011, 11:29:39 PM
Hopefully nothing... I say hopefully because I hope the -20 degree weather didn't kill my newly planted peach tree and/or my hops in pots.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on February 20, 2011, 07:16:33 PM
Plus planted 1 red delicious and 1 golden delicious apple trees and an olive tree of all things. They say they will grow around here. We'll see.
I hope they are right.  Because they told me I can grow figs and kiwis here.  So far they look to be surviving the winter fine, and I actually got a fig off of the "tree" last summer.  Time will tell.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on April 25, 2011, 04:41:24 PM
Just finished planting everything for this season. Here's the rundown:

(http://philliplamb.com/blueberries.jpg)
Blueberries - needing a bit of watering, we've gone 2 weeks with no rain and it's been unseasonably hot.

(http://philliplamb.com/corn.jpg)
Corn - eventually. I hope.

(http://philliplamb.com/elevated_garden.jpg)
We decided to do raised beds for most of the crop this year, here's an overall view.

(http://philliplamb.com/left_elevated.jpg)
The two beds on the left: in the back, we've got beets, cucumbers and carrots. In the front we've got batavia lettuce, spinach, and Romanesco Cabbage.

(http://philliplamb.com/right_elevated.jpg)
The two beds on the right: in back are bell peppers, eggplant, cherry tomatoes and lettuce down the middle. In front are poblano, jalapeno, Petin and another I forget at the moment (thanks for the seeds Euge!), as well as a bunch of beefsteak tomatoes.

(http://philliplamb.com/hops.jpg)
Can't forget my hops! EKG, Cascade and Centennial. The EKG are thriving, the others are a little late to the party but they're getting there. I want to train these up and over my deck.

(http://philliplamb.com/squash.jpg)
Squash and pumpkin. Not pictured: Watermelon along a low wall that gets sun all the time. I've never grown watermelon before and I dunno how it's going to turn out, but I certainly hope it'll be good.

(http://philliplamb.com/strawberries.jpg)
Strawberries and rhubarb. Those two, macerated and then pureed, make a hell of a compote for topping banana pancakes.

(http://philliplamb.com/herbs.jpg)
The wife's herb garden. Green and red basil, dill, rosemary, thyme, cilantro, cumin, lemon verbena, tarragon, rainbow sage, and three different kinds of mint: chocolate, moroccan, and milly-la-foret - milly-la-foret is a village close to here that's famous for mint production.

We've also got plum and cherry trees and I hope I can get to the fruit before the birds and worms. We'll see...

And now for a beer!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: corkybstewart on April 25, 2011, 04:55:52 PM
I'm pulling all my radishes today and pickling them.  We're eating spinach almost every day, sweet peas are getting ready to be eaten.  Beets and carrots are slow this year, the green beans and cowpeas are sprouted, cukes and cantaloupes are sprouting.  Tomatoes and squash plants are holding their own.  I planted 24 asparagus crowns and they're all up and looking good.
But my 2 best growing "crops" are the tumbleweeds and mustard weed that are taking over everything.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: thirsty on April 25, 2011, 05:00:23 PM
Haven't gotten a chance to plant anything yet but the lettuce and arugula I put in last year is still going strong. I didn't know it was such a rugged plant.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: 1vertical on April 25, 2011, 05:08:44 PM
It was announced to me that I may have to go to a Lengthy training class
for a new piece of equipment on the job site.....I mean 4-6 -8 weeks not sure how long
and so with that looming over my head I am pissy because I may NOT get to plant
and tend a little bit of a garden that we so do enjoy here.....I only have a 3 month growing
season and that much of a chunk of time out of that growing window leaves  me grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
umbling about my job again.....see
Quote
Man, work is p!$$!ng me off
thread
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on April 25, 2011, 07:04:59 PM
Here's mine. Got a late start this year so just have a token garden. Only 6 tomato plants, 2 jalapeño and one cucumber. Gets full sun the majority of the day- a southern exposure. It's humid and hot as sh!t outside...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_BGa2L64KQdY/TbXDBLjvnkI/AAAAAAAAAok/Lx1fy1Rs6MY/s640/2011-04-25%2013.47.05.jpg)

Awwww... already got a couple cute little tomatoes...
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_BGa2L64KQdY/TbXDNfOWdgI/AAAAAAAAAoo/EXjgZkX6HbE/s640/2011-04-25%2013.47.38.jpg)

Plans are for some corn and sunflowers.

Farmer Phil hope those peppers turn out well for ya!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: ccarlson on April 25, 2011, 07:07:27 PM
I've never tried raised beds. Just wondering what everyone thinks is the advantage, other than getting a little warmer in the early spring?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on April 25, 2011, 07:08:51 PM
I'm jealous, the only thing I've planted so far is radishes, broccoli raab, sweet onions, and carrots.  The rest has to wait for the weather to get warmer.  Oh, and I planted a nectarine and a sweet cherry tree.  And rhubarb, and rosemary.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: Hokerer on April 25, 2011, 07:11:27 PM
I've never tried raised beds. Just wondering what everyone thinks is the advantage, other than getting a little warmer in the early spring?

Tons of advantages to raised beds...  better drainage, better working height, soil composition control, easier weeding, and the list goes on and on
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on April 25, 2011, 07:13:36 PM
I've never tried raised beds. Just wondering what everyone thinks is the advantage, other than getting a little warmer in the early spring?

Tons of advantages to raised beds...  better drainage, better working height, soil composition control, easier weeding, and the list goes on and on


Ditto.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on April 25, 2011, 07:25:05 PM
I've never tried raised beds. Just wondering what everyone thinks is the advantage, other than getting a little warmer in the early spring?

For me the benefit is that it's easier to work on (don't need to stoop down all that way) and the weeds are less likely to get in there, at least the first year. Plus it looks a whole lot cleaner. I didn't know they stay warmer, but that's cool!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on April 25, 2011, 07:27:06 PM
Heh, seems we all posted the same thing at the same time.

I was also quite proud to have built them myself, while my neighbor/landlord bought these little 1m x 1m x 50cm guys done up in some fancy wood with a lining and handles and whatnot. He's got 6 of them, and one of them cost what all of mine cost, PLUS the dirt.

Although I do imagine his will last longer than mine, but still.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: bluesman on April 26, 2011, 03:36:17 AM
Just finished planting everything for this season. Here's the rundown:

(http://philliplamb.com/elevated_garden.jpg)

And now for a beer!

Very Impressive. That was quite the amount of work phil...but I think you'll reap the rewards.

I just started preparing my garden for planting. I'll be sure to post some pics when it's planted.  ;)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: Pinski on April 26, 2011, 03:48:04 AM
Hops: Willamette, Cascade, Mt. Hood and Zeus.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on April 26, 2011, 05:09:56 AM
Just finished planting everything for this season. Here's the rundown:

(http://philliplamb.com/elevated_garden.jpg)

And now for a beer!

Very Impressive. That was quite the amount of work phil...but I think you'll reap the rewards.

I just started preparing my garden for planting. I'll be sure to post some pics when it's planted.  ;)


Well I have to give credit to the wife for doing about 50-60% of all this. Of course she stays home, though, so she has more time to work out there. Wish I could be a stay-at-home dad sometimes, with weather like this...
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on April 26, 2011, 05:13:35 AM
Is that a drip irrigation system I see there?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on April 26, 2011, 06:49:32 AM
Is that a drip irrigation system I see there?

Yup. PITA to set up, but I think I'll be happy with it in the end. You need a special wrench to adjust the drip rate on the smaller heads, which is annoying. I got mini-sprinklers for the lettuce/spinach/cabbage and the carrots/beets/cucumbers and single drip bits for the tomatoes and stalk-y veggies. Surprisingly inexpensive and it'll save water. What I'd really like to do is get one of those big rain barrels and use that as a gravity-fed system for the water source, but the barrels are expensive here. Plus it's fun to spray things with a hose.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 02, 2011, 09:51:13 AM
Euge, the peppers are sprouting, the peppers are sprouting!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on May 02, 2011, 01:44:23 PM
Euge, the peppers are sprouting, the peppers are sprouting!  ;D ;D ;D

Pretty little white flowers!  Peppers from your own garden are the best.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on May 02, 2011, 03:46:39 PM
Euge, the peppers are sprouting, the peppers are sprouting!  ;D ;D ;D

All of them?! WooHoo!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 02, 2011, 04:13:37 PM
Euge, the peppers are sprouting, the peppers are sprouting!  ;D ;D ;D

All of them?! WooHoo!

Puna I should clarify, by "sprouting" I mean "shoots of green" and yeah, almost all of them - Still waiting on Petin.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: alikocho on May 02, 2011, 04:18:49 PM
I have some peppers coming up, but mine are still indoors. Have some tomatoes outside under cloches.

That said, my hops are already several feet off the ground.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on May 02, 2011, 04:26:00 PM
The petin take a long time- and when they do they'll be tiny and delicate.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: ccarlson on May 02, 2011, 04:28:26 PM
Euge, the peppers are sprouting, the peppers are sprouting!  ;D ;D ;D

Are you planting pepper seeds directly in the garden? If so, I hope you have a long growing season.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 02, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
Euge, the peppers are sprouting, the peppers are sprouting!  ;D ;D ;D

Are you planting pepper seeds directly in the garden? If so, I hope you have a long growing season.

First freeze is typically october. Does that count? I know I should have started earlier, but eh.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on May 02, 2011, 04:44:51 PM
You should have a crop by then. If you keep picking them more fruits will grow.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: ccarlson on May 02, 2011, 04:46:34 PM
Euge, the peppers are sprouting, the peppers are sprouting!  ;D ;D ;D

Are you planting pepper seeds directly in the garden? If so, I hope you have a long growing season.

First freeze is typically october. Does that count? I know I should have started earlier, but eh.

October is a long ways away. It really depends on the temperature. In my experience, peppers love the heat. I start seeds in January and by about late March ( when I plant) they are 3-4 inches tall, depending on the variety. They're just slow plants. I won't see germination for up to 2 weeks after planting, while other plants sprout in 3-4 days.

One thing about gardening is that you'll learn what grows best in your area, what part of the garden they like the best and so on. I never quit learning and I try new things each year. .
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on May 02, 2011, 05:00:49 PM
Euge, the peppers are sprouting, the peppers are sprouting!  ;D ;D ;D

Are you planting pepper seeds directly in the garden? If so, I hope you have a long growing season.

First freeze is typically october. Does that count? I know I should have started earlier, but eh.

Miracle Grow for tomatos and those guys will grow like Jack's beanstalk.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: alikocho on May 02, 2011, 10:50:25 PM
Euge, the peppers are sprouting, the peppers are sprouting!  ;D ;D ;D

Are you planting pepper seeds directly in the garden? If so, I hope you have a long growing season.

First freeze is typically october. Does that count? I know I should have started earlier, but eh.

On the basis that you're further south than me, but in Europe, you should be able to crop before October with peppers, depending on the variety. I had chillis in the UK last July-September (started off indoors, but moved outside), and I've bought peppers in Russia by the bushell load in September in my time. You should be fine.

I do have a question - what are the Petin?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on May 02, 2011, 11:04:59 PM
Petin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pequin_pepper) are tiny little peppers that are incredibly hot. They have a wonderful flavor.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 03, 2011, 08:07:04 AM
I'm guessing the Petin might go pretty well in a salsa - can't wait for them to get going.

Puna, thanks for the tip on the tomato miraclegro. I dunno if I can get it out here but I'm sure I can find an equivalent.

A few questions for those of you with more experience:
 1. My blueberries are doing horribly - wilted leaves, although the fruit looks like it's forming. My soil is really clay-like, loamy. Could this be the problem?

  2. I bought some Romanesco cabbage plants - I love fractals - but they're not doing well. They're in a potting soil mix and get watered every other day. Anything I should be doing?

  3. I planted corn seed two weeks ago but still nothing germinating. How long does it typically take, and is there anything specific I should do in terms of planting and watering?

  4. My hops have holes in their leaves. Will this keep them from growing, or prevent the hop cones from forming? What could it be? I've seen ants crawling on them but I didn't think ants liked hops.

  5. I've never done watermelon before. The leaves are starting to curl a bit, should I be watering it every day?

Thanks guys! The cucumbers, tomatoes, eggplant, rhubarb, chilis and peppers are doing really well though.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on May 03, 2011, 08:18:54 AM
Miracle Gro for tomatos = completely water-soluable 18-18-21 - applied while watering - once a week.

It's hard to tell for sure, but from what I can see from your pictures, it looks as if your soil is well suited to grapes.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 03, 2011, 08:26:51 AM
Miracle Gro for tomatos = completely water-soluable 18-18-21 - applied while watering - once a week.

It's hard to tell for sure, but from what I can see from your pictures, it looks as if your soil is well suited to grapes.

Yeah they grow everywhere here. I'd only be really interested in concord or some of the seedless edible varities though - I can't imagine growing grapes for wine would result in very good wine here, although who knows.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on May 03, 2011, 08:46:39 AM

It's hard to tell for sure, but from what I can see from your pictures, it looks as if your soil is well suited to grapes.

Yeah they grow everywhere here. I'd only be really interested in concord or some of the seedless edible varities though - I can't imagine growing grapes for wine would result in very good wine here, although who knows.

Can you say, "pyment?"
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 03, 2011, 08:52:50 AM

It's hard to tell for sure, but from what I can see from your pictures, it looks as if your soil is well suited to grapes.

Yeah they grow everywhere here. I'd only be really interested in concord or some of the seedless edible varities though - I can't imagine growing grapes for wine would result in very good wine here, although who knows.

Can you say, "pyment?"

eh?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on May 03, 2011, 01:47:13 PM
Pyment is mead made with grape juice and honey.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: bluesman on May 03, 2011, 01:50:43 PM
Miracle Gro for tomatos = completely water-soluable 18-18-21 - applied while watering - once a week.

It's hard to tell for sure, but from what I can see from your pictures, it looks as if your soil is well suited to grapes.

+1

I use Miracle Grow on my vegetable garden. I swear by this stuff. I've been using it for over 20 years with great success.

A little dab will do ya.  ;) 

1tbl per gallon works well. Apply it every 4 weeks or so.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on May 03, 2011, 02:31:50 PM
Phil if you can't find Miracle Grow locally or the Frenchie version Amazon should have it. I use it a couple of times during the cycle. It does work. If you have access to compost you can make a "compost tea" instead. Just be sure not to burn your plants.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: ccarlson on May 03, 2011, 02:45:06 PM
Miracle Grow is very good stuff, but I find that sprinkling a little 13-13-13 around every couple of weeks is cheaper and does about the same. Be sure and wash off any that lands on the leaves right after the application. I use a small plastic cup, with some holes in the bottom, as an applicator.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: alikocho on May 03, 2011, 09:49:19 PM

A few questions for those of you with more experience:
 1. My blueberries are doing horribly - wilted leaves, although the fruit looks like it's forming. My soil is really clay-like, loamy. Could this be the problem?

  4. My hops have holes in their leaves. Will this keep them from growing, or prevent the hop cones from forming? What could it be? I've seen ants crawling on them but I didn't think ants liked hops.


Blueberries need acidic soil, so clay isn't good for them. Get some diataceous earth or compost and put it around the plants, and they should do better.

Holes in hop leaves will most likely be from slugs at night. Unless they eat the whole plant, I wouldn't worry.
 
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 04, 2011, 07:02:43 AM

A few questions for those of you with more experience:
 1. My blueberries are doing horribly - wilted leaves, although the fruit looks like it's forming. My soil is really clay-like, loamy. Could this be the problem?

  4. My hops have holes in their leaves. Will this keep them from growing, or prevent the hop cones from forming? What could it be? I've seen ants crawling on them but I didn't think ants liked hops.


Blueberries need acidic soil, so clay isn't good for them. Get some diataceous earth or compost and put it around the plants, and they should do better.

Holes in hop leaves will most likely be from slugs at night. Unless they eat the whole plant, I wouldn't worry.
 

Ah so I don't have to dig the blueberries up, I can just sprinkle the dirt on top?

Slugs... Yeah, I see their shiny trails when I get up in the morning but they usually hang out around the low garden wall we have. I'll sneak out late tonight and check.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on May 04, 2011, 08:13:35 AM
Slugs... Yeah, I see their shiny trails when I get up in the morning but they usually hang out around the low garden wall we have. I'll sneak out late tonight and check.

Slugs like beer.  If you put out a small bowl of beer they will be attracted to it, fall in and drown.

I use 16-16-16 on my larger garden areas that need fertilizing.  It works well.  But, on my herbs, spices and peppers I use Miracle Gro.  It kicks ass!  I mix 1tbs to 1gal and water my herb garden with it once a week.  It is in liquid form so the plants absorb the fertilizer through the foliage too.  You'd think I was growing 1950's radioactive mutants by the way they grow!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 04, 2011, 08:59:05 AM
Slugs... Yeah, I see their shiny trails when I get up in the morning but they usually hang out around the low garden wall we have. I'll sneak out late tonight and check.

Slugs like beer.  If you put out a small bowl of beer they will be attracted to it, fall in and drown.

I use 16-16-16 on my larger garden areas that need fertilizing.  It works well.  But, on my herbs, spices and peppers I use Miracle Gro.  It kicks ass!  I mix 1tbs to 1gal and water my herb garden with it once a week.  It is in liquid form so the plants absorb the fertilizer through the foliage too.  You'd think I was growing 1950's radioactive mutants by the way they grow!

So as long as I'm asking questions and people are answering (;)) I have lemon verbena and dill amongst the other herbs and neither of them are doing so great. Do they require less watering than the other ones (basil, thyme, sage, etc) or is it the sun that's getting them? They're in sun about 5 hours a day.

Gardening is fun. Puna I'm jealous of your bounty - I can't imagine what it's like having a year-long growing season, and mangos in the garden to boot!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on May 04, 2011, 01:49:55 PM
I love messing with the garden. It's tremendously rewarding and even relaxing is some odd way.

Some plants don't grow well next to other types. Don't know about dill and lemon verbena. Probably just a soil issue though.

Just put in my second raised bed yesterday. Planted corn and onions. Next is a herb-garden in a semi-shady spot. I want to plant some dill too for fish and pickling.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: dbarber on May 04, 2011, 07:37:53 PM

A few questions for those of you with more experience:
 1. My blueberries are doing horribly - wilted leaves, although the fruit looks like it's forming. My soil is really clay-like, loamy. Could this be the problem?

  4. My hops have holes in their leaves. Will this keep them from growing, or prevent the hop cones from forming? What could it be? I've seen ants crawling on them but I didn't think ants liked hops.


Blueberries need acidic soil, so clay isn't good for them. Get some diataceous earth or compost and put it around the plants, and they should do better.

Holes in hop leaves will most likely be from slugs at night. Unless they eat the whole plant, I wouldn't worry.
 

Ah so I don't have to dig the blueberries up, I can just sprinkle the dirt on top?

Slugs... Yeah, I see their shiny trails when I get up in the morning but they usually hang out around the low garden wall we have. I'll sneak out late tonight and check.

Mike Mcgrath, former editor of organic gardening and host of a local NPR show "you bet your garden," recommends putting an inch of peat moss and an inch of compost on the soil around the plant.  I spread it out about a foot away from the plant, but make sure you don't put it up against the stem.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: corkybstewart on May 04, 2011, 09:33:06 PM
So the radishes are history, but we're eating spinach salads everyday and I'll probably have to pull the rest of it soon before it bolts.  I'll probably use it in a big batch of spinach lasagna.  I have a second row of spinach I planted 2 weeks after the first and it's about to be ready to eat also.  Some of the onions are flowering so I'll be pulling them soon.   The beets are coming along but the carrots are lagging behind. 
The herbs are doing great, I'll pick a bunch of cilantro today to make salsa for chicken fajitas.  We're eating parsley and basil almost every day in something, and the thyme and oregano are thriving.  For some reason th peppermint iss healthy but not spreading like usual.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: alikocho on May 04, 2011, 11:53:40 PM

A few questions for those of you with more experience:
 1. My blueberries are doing horribly - wilted leaves, although the fruit looks like it's forming. My soil is really clay-like, loamy. Could this be the problem?

  4. My hops have holes in their leaves. Will this keep them from growing, or prevent the hop cones from forming? What could it be? I've seen ants crawling on them but I didn't think ants liked hops.


Blueberries need acidic soil, so clay isn't good for them. Get some diataceous earth or compost and put it around the plants, and they should do better.

Holes in hop leaves will most likely be from slugs at night. Unless they eat the whole plant, I wouldn't worry.
 

Ah so I don't have to dig the blueberries up, I can just sprinkle the dirt on top?

Slugs... Yeah, I see their shiny trails when I get up in the morning but they usually hang out around the low garden wall we have. I'll sneak out late tonight and check.

Just add the soil on top. Not as great as panting with it, but mound it up, and things will work out.

Slugs. We have evil slugs where we are. I have book called fifty ways to kill a slug...
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: jeffy on May 05, 2011, 12:46:29 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs349.ash2/62925_1532874315636_1048115648_1561881_3810246_n.jpg)

Do they look like this?
(This is from a previous post by tschmidlin that left an indelible impression)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: corkybstewart on May 05, 2011, 02:52:44 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs349.ash2/62925_1532874315636_1048115648_1561881_3810246_n.jpg)

Do they look like this?
(This is from a previous post by tschmidlin that left an indelible impression)
I really hope that's been Photoshopped.  That's a really nasty, vile looking creature.  OTOH can you eat them like escargot?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: 1vertical on May 05, 2011, 05:13:53 AM
OH yeah I forgot. I got a call from the asparagus farm this am.
They are sending my 3 yr. Old crowns. I guess I will be planting
them in the trench I prepped last fall.  Yep a nice crop o spear grass....
in a couple years.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 05, 2011, 07:37:24 AM
Just add the soil on top. Not as great as panting with it, but mound it up, and things will work out.

Slugs. We have evil slugs where we are. I have book called fifty ways to kill a slug...

Hrm - can I put mulch down instead or does it need to be soil? I have a lot of weeds growing around there as well so it's not covered up just yet - still waiting to see how many shoots I get coming off of the rhizomes.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on May 05, 2011, 08:29:23 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs349.ash2/62925_1532874315636_1048115648_1561881_3810246_n.jpg)

Do they look like this?
(This is from a previous post by tschmidlin that left an indelible impression)

Snatch of the Body Invaders... oops
I mean, Invasion of the Snatch Bodies... oops
I mean Invasion of the Body Snatchers...
No, no, no... Puppet Masters, thats it!

Man... two Bigfoots and I get so cornfused!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: jeffy on May 05, 2011, 03:00:19 PM
You can get the original thread and explanation here:
http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=4303.15
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: morticaixavier on May 05, 2011, 05:01:58 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs349.ash2/62925_1532874315636_1048115648_1561881_3810246_n.jpg)

Do they look like this?
(This is from a previous post by tschmidlin that left an indelible impression)
I really hope that's been Photoshopped.  That's a really nasty, vile looking creature.  OTOH can you eat them like escargot?

I havn't seen one quite that big but the banana slugs here in northern cali are easily 6-8 inches long.

**EDIT** maybe this will get the topic moved to all things food! http://shellcollecting.tribe.net/thread/240db251-f8ef-4cb5-aff2-24f848a73efb
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on May 05, 2011, 05:47:02 PM
Do they look like this?

I love that picture :)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: bluesman on May 05, 2011, 06:46:16 PM
Do they look like this?

I love that picture :)


 ;D

In the words of our freind capozoli..."butter, garlic and wine"  ;)

(http://planetsmilies.net/vomit-smiley-31.gif)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: jeffy on May 05, 2011, 07:15:24 PM
Do they look like this?

I love that picture :)


It still gives me the creeps.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on May 05, 2011, 09:29:17 PM
Do they look like this?

I love that picture :)


It still gives me the creeps.
You might like this movie then . . .
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093995/

Just keep a giant salt shaker with you when you go out in the woods around here ;D
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 16, 2011, 06:16:48 PM
Got a corn question for anybody who knows - I did the standard three seeds per hole and in some of my rows I've got more than one (sometimes two or three) seedlings sprouted. I don't wanna just throw them out - would it work to leave them, or is that going to ruin the whole group? If so, what's the best way to transplant?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: Hokerer on May 16, 2011, 06:18:40 PM
Got a corn question for anybody who knows - I did the standard three seeds per hole and in some of my rows I've got more than one (sometimes two or three) seedlings sprouted. I don't wanna just throw them out - would it work to leave them, or is that going to ruin the whole group? If so, what's the best way to transplant?

Bite the bullet and toss them.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on May 16, 2011, 06:23:38 PM
Don't pull them, you'll just damage the roots of the remaining one.  Snip them, they'll die.

It's a bummer, but it's the right thing to do to improve your harvest.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: theDarkSide on May 16, 2011, 06:28:13 PM
I just cut back my second year hops ( Centennial and Cascade ) to leave the strongest 4 per bine on the trellis.  Just didn't feel right cutting them back.  I probably cut back 12-15 per plant.  They are going crazy.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on May 16, 2011, 07:04:45 PM
Got a corn question for anybody who knows - I did the standard three seeds per hole and in some of my rows I've got more than one (sometimes two or three) seedlings sprouted. I don't wanna just throw them out - would it work to leave them, or is that going to ruin the whole group? If so, what's the best way to transplant?

I did one per hole and they all came up.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on May 17, 2011, 06:14:56 AM
Got a corn question for anybody who knows - I did the standard three seeds per hole and in some of my rows I've got more than one (sometimes two or three) seedlings sprouted. I don't wanna just throw them out - would it work to leave them, or is that going to ruin the whole group? If so, what's the best way to transplant?

I did one per hole and they all came up.

 1 per hole and after they sprout above ground replant the skips
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: Pinski on May 17, 2011, 06:20:58 AM
My Cacade, Willamette, Zeus & Mt. Hood all finally surfaced this past week with the arrival of at least a couple of warm days.  Not expecting much harvest this year, but hope we're laying good, strong roots!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on May 17, 2011, 06:34:14 AM
I harvested my first white pineapple (Kona Sugarloaf) of the season on Saturday and just cut it for desert tonight.  Awesome!  Sooooo sweet.

It ripened early.  Whites usually come in during late June through August.  I am not complaining!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 17, 2011, 06:34:51 AM
The latest problem I discovered last night were these little black aphid-looking things the ants seem to be herding. They're all over the hops and the cherry trees. Any thoughts on getting rid of them?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on May 17, 2011, 06:41:08 AM
The latest problem I discovered last night were these little black aphid-looking things the ants seem to be herding. They're all over the hops and the cherry trees. Any thoughts on getting rid of them?

A very dilute soap and water solution in a trigger spayer should do it.

(10mL liquid dishwashing soap to 4L water)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on May 17, 2011, 06:58:41 AM
The latest problem I discovered last night were these little black aphid-looking things the ants seem to be herding. They're all over the hops and the cherry trees. Any thoughts on getting rid of them?

A very dilute soap and water solution in a trigger spayer should do it.

(10mL liquid dishwashing soap to 4L water)
Also, predatory insects.  Ladybugs, praying mantis, aphid wasps, etc.  It might be too late to build nests for the aphid wasps, but IIRC it is basically a block of wood with 3/16" holes drilled in it.  I don't know if you get those bugs there though.  For ladybugs, can you buy them there?  If so, a little honey water with bee pollen mixed in sprinkled over the plants will encourage them to stay until they find the food.  If they are already there leave them alone, and google images of larval ladybugs - I killed a few before I figured out what they are and that they eat a lot of aphids.  Also look up images of eggs on the bottom of leaves, when those little suckers hatch they eat a ton of aphids so you want to make sure you are protecting them.  The eggs could be confused with aphids, at least around here.  We get two different kinds green ones and grey ones.  The green ones are hard to spot, the grey ones stand out.

Anyway, I'm a fan of the predatory insects if you can encourage them to take up residence in your yard.  No idea what is around there though.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 17, 2011, 08:40:39 AM
The latest problem I discovered last night were these little black aphid-looking things the ants seem to be herding. They're all over the hops and the cherry trees. Any thoughts on getting rid of them?

A very dilute soap and water solution in a trigger spayer should do it.

(10mL liquid dishwashing soap to 4L water)

That seems much easier than my wife's suggestion of basically rubbing each one of the leaves. Aphid poo, ewwww. Still fascinating to see them at work, though - live in the city long enough and you forget that there are all these things out there. I love that the ants herd them.

tschmidlin yeah, I've seen lady bugs around but probably not enough to do much. We have a lot of gendarmes (Pyrrhocoris apterus, I think in English it's Firebug. They don't really seem to have any interest in anything except reproducing in wood piles.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on May 17, 2011, 04:04:34 PM
tschmidlin yeah, I've seen lady bugs around but probably not enough to do much.
Each ladybug will eat over 5000 aphids in its lifetime.  I think it's worth encouraging them to stick around. :)

Also, aphids have soft bodies so you can crush them really easily, or blast them off the plants with a stream of water.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: Beer Monger on May 17, 2011, 04:07:31 PM
I have a black thumb.  I'll leave the hop growing to the pros. 
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on May 17, 2011, 04:16:10 PM
I have a black thumb.  I'll leave the hop growing to the pros. 
Hops would overrun even your yard. :)  They grow like weeds around here, as long as you plant them in a sunny spot.  I got rid of mine this year - they weren't doing well where they were, and the really sunny spots are a little too primo for me to plant hops there.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: Beer Monger on May 17, 2011, 04:34:30 PM
I have a black thumb.  I'll leave the hop growing to the pros. 
Hops would overrun even your yard. :)  They grow like weeds around here, as long as you plant them in a sunny spot.  I got rid of mine this year - they weren't doing well where they were, and the really sunny spots are a little too primo for me to plant hops there.
Yeah, but I'd never tend them.  And then I'd have pissed neighbors w/ hops overrunning their yards.  ;)  lol
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: corkybstewart on May 23, 2011, 02:14:38 AM
We just finished a garden based dinner.  Salad was spinach, beets, carrots and onions from the garden, and then we had lasagne made with spinach and onions full of oregano, thyme and a couple of different basils from the herb box.  I can't wait until I have tomatoes, then life will be complete.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on May 23, 2011, 07:25:30 AM
We just finished a garden based dinner.  Salad was spinach, beets, carrots and onions from the garden, and then we had lasagne made with spinach and onions full of oregano, thyme and a couple of different basils from the herb box.  I can't wait until I have tomatoes, then life will be complete.

I sorta did this last night too. Had grilled mint pesto scallops on a bed of salad from the garden. Mint and parsley were from the garden too. Good times. Can't wait for that corn to get big!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: boulderbrewer on May 25, 2011, 03:15:59 AM
Just finishing the fence for the "whole garden" almost time to plant. Frost tonight and the next couple days so I envey you early planters. Planting the usual, cucs,beans,zuc, corn, taters, tomatoes,squash, pumpkins,lettuce,spinach, peppers (hot and sweet) and plenty herbs. I'm sure I forgot a few.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on June 17, 2011, 06:33:28 AM
I've probably harvested over 200 tomatoes from my plants. They are delicious. Next year I'm going to grow a much larger crop in order to make enough sauce for the rest of the year. And some different varieties.

Here's a pic right before they started coming fast and I would harvest 10-15 every day.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xbbtewaE1MY/TesTD3drxjI/AAAAAAAAArc/aTbS4BzTjlc/s640/2011-06-04%25252016.19.25.jpg)

And some corn. Never grown it before but it looks like the corn is thriving.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q7z3ogSr5-4/Tfr0aKS9MVI/AAAAAAAAAr8/VHSN-SvHqu0/s640/2011-06-16%25252013.26.48.jpg)


Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 17, 2011, 07:32:22 AM
Euge don't forget to water the hell out of that corn once it starts to show silk. Otherwise you get niblets.

Also sadly your peppers didn't want to germinate, the thing I had thought was a delicious pepper plant turned out to be a strategically placed climbing vine. :-( But I've started over with more seeds in some of those little peat seed pots. Here's hoping something happens...
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on June 17, 2011, 08:17:03 AM
Euge don't forget to water the hell out of that corn once it starts to show silk. Otherwise you get niblets.

Also sadly your peppers didn't want to germinate, the thing I had thought was a delicious pepper plant turned out to be a strategically placed climbing vine. :-( But I've started over with more seeds in some of those little peat seed pots. Here's hoping something happens...

I'm tellin' ya...  Miracle Gro...
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 17, 2011, 08:47:47 AM
Euge don't forget to water the hell out of that corn once it starts to show silk. Otherwise you get niblets.

Also sadly your peppers didn't want to germinate, the thing I had thought was a delicious pepper plant turned out to be a strategically placed climbing vine. :-( But I've started over with more seeds in some of those little peat seed pots. Here's hoping something happens...

I'm tellin' ya...  Miracle Gro...

They don't sell it here. I can get organic granulated fertilizer that works for tomatoes, peppers etc, but I'm going to wait to does the seedlings until they've grown a bit.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: Slowbrew on June 17, 2011, 12:51:58 PM
Euge don't forget to water the hell out of that corn once it starts to show silk. Otherwise you get niblets.

Also sadly your peppers didn't want to germinate, the thing I had thought was a delicious pepper plant turned out to be a strategically placed climbing vine. :-( But I've started over with more seeds in some of those little peat seed pots. Here's hoping something happens...

I'm tellin' ya...  Miracle Gro...

They don't sell it here. I can get organic granulated fertilizer that works for tomatoes, peppers etc, but I'm going to wait to does the seedlings until they've grown a bit.

If you hit new seedlings with any fertilizer too early you will just get spindly little plants that can't support themselves (experience speaking here).  Let them start to thicken up before feeding them anything extra.

My garden this is growing a very nice new shed.  I gave up plants last fall.  There is no good spot on out lot for a garden and I needed a place to store seasonal equipment.  8^(

Paul
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 22, 2011, 08:13:21 AM
So far everything's growing great, although there are two issues I wanna ask you guys about:
1. some of my corn leaves are droopy - it's been raining a LOT lately (making up for three months of drought) perhaps that's doing it?
2. I have planted summer squash. There are lots of pretty squash blossoms! But they all fall off. Is this normal?

Meantime, o hai pumpkin, looks like I'm going to have a huge crop this year. Same for tomatoes of course, and cucumber, beets, lettuce (can you can lettuce? We've got so much...), carrots, bell peppers and eggplant. Pics later this weekend, perhaps...
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: 1vertical on June 22, 2011, 02:09:54 PM
2. I have planted summer squash. There are lots of pretty squash blossoms! But they all fall off. Is this normal?

Do you see any pollinator insects? i.e. Bees???  that is what keeps em from falling off
I have taken an artists paint brush and moved pollen from flower to flower in times when
I have not had visiting bees....to good end result. :o

There is a product here in US that is called bloom set and that is to help tomatoes keep
blooms on long enuff for pollination. Not sure how it would affect squash.

Edit: if you get to the point of having a lot of blossoms that you don't wanna allow to go to waste,
you can try this  http://madebymichellec.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/fried-squash-blossoms/  (http://madebymichellec.wordpress.com/2010/07/12/fried-squash-blossoms/)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on June 22, 2011, 10:08:43 PM
Euge don't forget to water the hell out of that corn once it starts to show silk. Otherwise you get niblets.


 Time to throw some soda to it when it gets about knee high too.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: Norm! on June 23, 2011, 05:15:26 AM
Bloom set works wonderfully in our garden.....but we don't need much help...we only use it for early season tomatoes.....when its still cool out...(cool here is less than 90-100F) when the heat gets up there our tomatoes and peppers sprout and ripen quickly.  then its all about finding folks to eat em!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on June 23, 2011, 05:25:01 AM
I just hit my toms with some miracle grow. They're showing serious signs of deficiency and I wasn't expecting another crop off them. But it seems they will give me some more after the huge rain we had and a few consecutive cool nights. Hoping for another 100,,,
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on June 23, 2011, 06:04:43 AM
2. I have planted summer squash. There are lots of pretty squash blossoms! But they all fall off. Is this normal?
Do you have all of one gender of blossoms?  The first ones are typically all male.  You can look at them and determine the gender by looking for an immature fruit behind the female flower.  The timing has to be just right, so it can be hard if you only have one plant.  I would take a paint brush, find a male flower on the first morning it opens, get some pollen and pollinate the open female flowers.  Do it every morning and hopefully you'll get some fruit.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on June 23, 2011, 06:13:16 AM
Euge don't forget to water the hell out of that corn once it starts to show silk. Otherwise you get niblets.


 Time to throw some soda to it when it gets about knee high too.

Waaa? Please explain.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 23, 2011, 09:25:51 AM
Euge don't forget to water the hell out of that corn once it starts to show silk. Otherwise you get niblets.


 Time to throw some soda to it when it gets about knee high too.

Waaa? Please explain.

+1 - explanation? This might be the reason for my drooping leaves on the knee-high corn plants...
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: redbeerman on June 23, 2011, 12:18:46 PM
2. I have planted summer squash. There are lots of pretty squash blossoms! But they all fall off. Is this normal?
Do you have all of one gender of blossoms?  The first ones are typically all male.  You can look at them and determine the gender by looking for an immature fruit behind the female flower.  The timing has to be just right, so it can be hard if you only have one plant.  I would take a paint brush, find a male flower on the first morning it opens, get some pollen and pollinate the open female flowers.  Do it every morning and hopefully you'll get some fruit.

I ususally let bees take care of this. ;)  It does help to have at least two of everything you are growing.  The plants do not have to be the same though i.e., one yellow, one zuchini for instance.  We don't grow summer squash anymore because I am totally burnt out on it.  We would have two plants and they would produce enough to feed a small village for months. :o
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on June 24, 2011, 06:14:59 PM
The bees are hitting my corn- which has shot up about 12" after the good hard rain we had a couple days ago. I wonder what the honey would taste like?

Here's my precious fig-trees fruiting.

Brown Turkey:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8EWkFXdpEkg/TgTQpncr1kI/AAAAAAAAAsI/-glcS2Z89Xc/s640/2011-06-24%25252012.54.34.jpg)

Black Mission:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ixiW-oujJR4/TgTQQYcqU5I/AAAAAAAAAsE/ZrC9-isb-v0/s640/2011-06-24%25252012.54.48.jpg)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tschmidlin on June 24, 2011, 06:34:08 PM
My brown turkey just starting getting leaves in the last week or so euge. :)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: ccarlson on June 24, 2011, 07:04:20 PM
Any turkey I've ever seen has either feathers on it or comes in a bottle. :D
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 24, 2011, 08:07:49 PM
The bees are hitting my corn- which has shot up about 12" after the good hard rain we had a couple days ago. I wonder what the honey would taste like?

Here's my precious fig-trees fruiting.

Brown Turkey:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8EWkFXdpEkg/TgTQpncr1kI/AAAAAAAAAsI/-glcS2Z89Xc/s640/2011-06-24%25252012.54.34.jpg)

Black Mission:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ixiW-oujJR4/TgTQQYcqU5I/AAAAAAAAAsE/ZrC9-isb-v0/s640/2011-06-24%25252012.54.48.jpg)

My landlord/neighbor has a fig tree. Let's just say now that they're starting to get ripe, I've been sneaking over the fence late at night. Nom nom nom. You're lucky to have that in your yard. Even the leaves smell good. I don't remember if you were on the soap thread, but fig leaves would make a mean soap I think.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: bluesman on June 24, 2011, 09:25:30 PM
Here's my precious fig-trees fruiting.

Nice looking figs Euge.  :)

What kind of yield do you typically get from your Fig tree?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: tubercle on June 24, 2011, 10:14:39 PM
Euge don't forget to water the hell out of that corn once it starts to show silk. Otherwise you get niblets.


 Time to throw some soda to it when it gets about knee high too.

Waaa? Please explain.

+1 - explanation? This might be the reason for my drooping leaves on the knee-high corn plants...


 Nitrogen fertilizer.

  We call Sodium Nitrate (soda ash) around here soda (Why? Because my Grandpa did is all I can tell you ;D).

 Now most fertilizers use Potassium Nirate (pot ash) instead. its the last number in fertilizer, 10-10-10

 Corn is nitrogen hungry. Get you some fertilizer with 0-0-(some number here). Dress the corn about six inches away from the stalks. about an 1/8 cup per stalk unless it rains a lot, then add a little more. Liquid is better if you find it.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on June 24, 2011, 10:16:20 PM
These are new trees and I only got a few last year. This year it's more but not a bumper crop. The trees aren't that big yet.

In the background past the corn is my neighbor's fig tree. It has been covered in little figs that haven't increased in size for months. The massive rain we had swelled them up to the size of mine in just two days. They are ripening rapidly and the birds are feasting on them.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: gordonstrong on June 25, 2011, 12:40:42 AM
My landlord/neighbor has a fig tree. Let's just say now that they're starting to get ripe, I've been sneaking over the fence late at night.

Wow. You really have gone native. Bravo.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: maxieboy on June 25, 2011, 12:45:05 AM
My landlord/neighbor has a fig tree. Let's just say now that they're starting to get ripe, I've been sneaking over the fence late at night.

Wow. You really have gone native. Bravo.

I'm looking forward to the: "the produce from my garden is mysteriously disappearing" thread...  ;D
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 25, 2011, 06:00:33 PM
My landlord/neighbor has a fig tree. Let's just say now that they're starting to get ripe, I've been sneaking over the fence late at night.

Wow. You really have gone native. Bravo.

Eh? I don't get it.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: gordonstrong on June 25, 2011, 07:06:17 PM
From reading A Year in Provence, it just seemed like a very French thing to do.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on June 25, 2011, 07:10:53 PM
From reading A Year in Provence, it just seemed like a very French thing to do.

Stealing your neighbor's vegetables and fruit?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: gordonstrong on June 25, 2011, 07:13:30 PM
Stealing is a little harsh.  More like a casual disregard for specific property lines, especially in regards to food items.  Also applied to truffle-hunting locations and business transactions that might or might not be seen as taxable by the government.

OK, so that was probably a bit too much context for a joke.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on June 25, 2011, 08:13:33 PM
Ag theft is a big problem here in Hawaii.  It sucks to work hard for a crop for months, only to have it disappear overnight.  It may seem romantic to jump a fence and grab a freebee, but before you do, put yourself in the farmer's shoes for a moment.

I've been on the losing end of the deal more than once, and I can tell you it's very disheartening...
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: bluesman on June 25, 2011, 08:47:06 PM
I picked up the first round of Silver Queen Corn from a local produce stand today. It's about that time of year to start getting some local produce. My garden is coming along nicely but still not quite producing yet.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: ccarlson on June 25, 2011, 09:16:22 PM
Mmmmmm, grilled corn.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 26, 2011, 06:10:18 AM
Ag theft is a big problem here in Hawaii.  It sucks to work hard for a crop for months, only to have it disappear overnight.  It may seem romantic to jump a fence and grab a freebee, but before you do, put yourself in the farmer's shoes for a moment.

I've been on the losing end of the deal more than once, and I can tell you it's very disheartening...

Well, thing is, he never picks them. Usually they're just left there. I don't know why. So I rescue them before they can rot. It's a community service. And no, he's not a super old dude, he's just really busy and away on business most of the time.

Also, Gordon, even if I did know where a good truffle spot was, I wouldn't go. People get killed (seriously) over that sort of knowledge.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: ccarlson on June 26, 2011, 12:39:27 PM
Ag theft is a big problem here in Hawaii.  It sucks to work hard for a crop for months, only to have it disappear overnight.  It may seem romantic to jump a fence and grab a freebee, but before you do, put yourself in the farmer's shoes for a moment.

I've been on the losing end of the deal more than once, and I can tell you it's very disheartening...

Well, thing is, he never picks them. Usually they're just left there. I don't know why. So I rescue them before they can rot. It's a community service. And no, he's not a super old dude, he's just really busy and away on business most of the time.

Also, Gordon, even if I did know where a good truffle spot was, I wouldn't go. People get killed (seriously) over that sort of knowledge.

If you ask him and he knows that you're taking them, then it's not stealing, however, if you "assume" that they're going to waste and take them without his knowledge, then it's theft.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 26, 2011, 04:50:16 PM
Ag theft is a big problem here in Hawaii.  It sucks to work hard for a crop for months, only to have it disappear overnight.  It may seem romantic to jump a fence and grab a freebee, but before you do, put yourself in the farmer's shoes for a moment.

I've been on the losing end of the deal more than once, and I can tell you it's very disheartening...

Well, thing is, he never picks them. Usually they're just left there. I don't know why. So I rescue them before they can rot. It's a community service. And no, he's not a super old dude, he's just really busy and away on business most of the time.

Also, Gordon, even if I did know where a good truffle spot was, I wouldn't go. People get killed (seriously) over that sort of knowledge.

If you ask him and he knows that you're taking them, then it's not stealing, however, if you "assume" that they're going to waste and take them without his knowledge, then it's theft.

Man, I didn't know taking a couple figs every now and then was such SRS BSNS. Anyway, back on thread, seems like my beets are just about ready. The wife says roast them, but I kinda want to go the pickle route. Seems like we'll have enough to do either way. Mmmm, beets...
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on June 26, 2011, 05:05:29 PM
Ooh beets. Pickled with chilis and ginger. Or roasted and then pickled... I'm thinking beet salad with orange and tarragon.

Don't worry about the figs. I pick some of my neighbor's or the animals will get everything. It's a rent-house so I figure they don't know about the two fig trees back along the fence. I've found some strange boot-prints back near my garden- maybe I lost a couple tomatoes to opportunists but I had a lot this year. :)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: gordonstrong on June 26, 2011, 05:16:20 PM
Red beets, I assume?  I had a great salad last night with roasted golden beets, but I think red would work too.  Trim, peel, cut into bite size pieces, toss with olive oil, sherry vinegar, salt and pepper, and roast.  Let cool.  Simple vinaigrette with sherry vinegar, olive oil, shallots, salt and pepper.  Toast some walnuts in a pan with walnut oil, salt and pepper.  Shred some romain and endive, put beets on top,  add some orange segments, drizzle with vinaigrette, top with crumbled goat cheese, walnuts, chopped garlic chives.  A bit involved, but really good.  Restaurant quality, I thought.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: denny on June 26, 2011, 06:04:09 PM
YUM!  That sounds great, Gordon.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: morticaixavier on June 26, 2011, 07:02:25 PM
Red beets, I assume?  I had a great salad last night with roasted golden beets, but I think red would work too.  Trim, peel, cut into bite size pieces, toss with olive oil, sherry vinegar, salt and pepper, and roast.  Let cool.  Simple vinaigrette with sherry vinegar, olive oil, shallots, salt and pepper.  Toast some walnuts in a pan with walnut oil, salt and pepper.  Shred some romain and endive, put beets on top,  add some orange segments, drizzle with vinaigrette, top with crumbled goat cheese, walnuts, chopped garlic chives.  A bit involved, but really good.  Restaurant quality, I thought.

I do something similar with beets, a bit simpler though, just roast the beets, when they are done I toss the greens from the beets, some shallots sliced thin in teh pan with them and toss till the shallots are more or less cooked or the heat is all gone. Toast some walnuts in a dry pan and top whatever greens make themselves available with the beets and nuts and some chevre then mix some balsamic or cider or redwine vinegar into the cooking oil from the beets, salt and pepper and good to go.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: 1vertical on June 26, 2011, 10:56:53 PM
I planted some WY 3711 in this fertile,cooled, oxygenated wert   ;D
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/Vertical1/Saison2011OG.jpg)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 27, 2011, 06:37:54 AM
Beet salad is a favorite around here but it's always done with pre-cooked beets. It's hard to find fresh beets around here and the markets only ever have pre-cooked. A majority percentage of beet production in France goes to producing beet sugar, which we use instead of HFCS or cane sugar. Cane sugar, believe it or not, is apparently seen as a product of slavery due to the working conditions where it's produced, so it's not used very much in industrial food production. Allegedly.

I do love a beet salad with walnuts though, maybe some shaved pecorino. Gordon I'll have to try your recipe, how long and at what temp did you do the beets?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: gordonstrong on June 27, 2011, 12:27:06 PM
I do love a beet salad with walnuts though, maybe some shaved pecorino. Gordon I'll have to try your recipe, how long and at what temp did you do the beets?

The beets were on the large side, not quite as big as a baseball.  Trimmed and peeled, then quartered lengthwise, then cut crosswise into half-inch pieces.  Toss with 2 Tbsp olive oil and 1 Tbsp sherry vinegar, plus salt and pepper.  Roast in a pan for 25 minutes at 475F, covered with foil. Remove foil, toss, roast for 10 minutes. Check doneness, toss and roast more if needed.  Drain and cool.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: ccarlson on June 27, 2011, 01:01:56 PM
I like a lot of different veg tables, but beets is not one of them. Maybe it's never been prepared right for me.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: 1vertical on June 27, 2011, 01:07:15 PM
I had good luck with beets just harshly brushed clean, wrapped in tin foil and baked
like a potato, mash with your fork,then apply butter and salt to taste.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: 1vertical on June 27, 2011, 01:52:49 PM
Couple things that I planted last fall.  This is their 1st Year Bloom....I like  ;D
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/Vertical1/IrisDeepDarkPurple.jpg)
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a87/Vertical1/IrisFullGlory.jpg)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: morticaixavier on June 27, 2011, 02:50:20 PM
Red beets, I assume?  I had a great salad last night with roasted golden beets, but I think red would work too.  Trim, peel, cut into bite size pieces, toss with olive oil, sherry vinegar, salt and pepper, and roast.  Let cool.  Simple vinaigrette with sherry vinegar, olive oil, shallots, salt and pepper.  Toast some walnuts in a pan with walnut oil, salt and pepper.  Shred some romain and endive, put beets on top,  add some orange segments, drizzle with vinaigrette, top with crumbled goat cheese, walnuts, chopped garlic chives.  A bit involved, but really good.  Restaurant quality, I thought.

When ever I work with the golden beets they start to turn black on me. I assume it's because I roast them with just olive oil, next time I have to try with a little vinegar.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: gordonstrong on June 27, 2011, 04:02:30 PM
The only color developed on the beets I did was from the roasting.  They retained their nice gold color otherwise.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: johnf on June 29, 2011, 11:57:41 AM
One of my favorite things to do with red beet is cream of X soup. Tastes great, looks cool. White bowls required.

Reminds me that denny's in Japan boasts of their famous roasted beets. I keep meaning to eat there to see how different it is. I don't remember beets from any US denny's.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 29, 2011, 01:17:05 PM
One of my favorite things to do with red beet is cream of X soup. Tastes great, looks cool. White bowls required.

Reminds me that denny's in Japan boasts of their famous roasted beets. I keep meaning to eat there to see how different it is. I don't remember beets from any US denny's.

Moons Over My Beet-y?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: morticaixavier on June 29, 2011, 08:09:11 PM
One of my favorite things to do with red beet is cream of X soup. Tastes great, looks cool. White bowls required.

Reminds me that denny's in Japan boasts of their famous roasted beets. I keep meaning to eat there to see how different it is. I don't remember beets from any US denny's.

I made red beet risotto once, that was intense. tasty too
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: corkybstewart on June 30, 2011, 03:38:53 AM
I came back from vacation and apparently I planted tumbleweed seeds.  My entire garden is full of 5' tall tumbleweeds that cannot be removed until we have major rain.  The roots on these things go a foot down and this year my soil is essentially adobe since there's been no rain since September.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on June 30, 2011, 05:13:30 AM
Did you get some rain while away on vacation? They'd need something like that right?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on June 30, 2011, 09:08:56 AM
I have squash! And cucumbers! And my pumpkin plant is taking over. Hurray! Gardening is fun.

Pretty soon we'll have to start a canning thread of course.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on July 03, 2011, 01:37:37 AM
My corn is coming along nicely. Looks like there'll be another nice crop of tomatoes too. I can't keep the grackles from pecking my figs as each one ripens. I thought the poor things were starving due to the drought. Evidently not. >:(

My pecan tree is bowed down with a huge crop of nuts. Sigh. The squirrels will get those...

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ncxnCEKyF_I/Tg_GM16eYAI/AAAAAAAAAK0/vaG595ctMpI/s640/2011-07-02%25252020.28.30.jpg)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: pinnah on August 02, 2011, 08:23:15 PM
Thought I would bump this thread, with harvest coming on.

Technically, these were planted last fall, but what the heck.
It is garlic harvest time here. 8)


(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/Aug1014.jpg)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on August 02, 2011, 10:00:28 PM
Thought I would bump this thread, with harvest coming on.

Technically, these were planted last fall, but what the heck.
It is garlic harvest time here. 8)


(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/pinnah/Aug1014.jpg)

Ah yes!  The Cajun spice of love!
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on August 02, 2011, 10:03:03 PM
Anybody out there eat ramps?

(http://www.mymountaingarden.com/wp-content/uploads/ramps-pulled.jpg)
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on August 03, 2011, 08:35:26 AM
Anybody out there eat ramps?

(http://www.mymountaingarden.com/wp-content/uploads/ramps-pulled.jpg)

Mmmmm.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: alikocho on August 03, 2011, 03:08:27 PM
Anybody out there eat ramps?

(http://www.mymountaingarden.com/wp-content/uploads/ramps-pulled.jpg)

Mmmmm.

Yeah, I forage them wild. But they're long gone already here. The leaves make a fantastic pesto, which I have several tubs of left in my freezer.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on August 03, 2011, 08:01:35 PM
Are they as stinky on that side of the pond as they are on this side?
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: alikocho on August 03, 2011, 08:05:34 PM
I can only base this on those I've had in the US from New York State (Ulster County and Westchester mostly), but yep, just as stinky.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on August 08, 2011, 03:14:35 PM
Are they as stinky on that side of the pond as they are on this side?

You bet. I walked through a forest one day where there was a big patch of these things. You could smell them from 500 meters away.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on August 09, 2011, 01:04:42 AM
Are they as stinky on that side of the pond as they are on this side?

You bet. I walked through a forest one day where there was a big patch of these things. You could smell them from 500 meters away.

A friend of mine tried to bring some from West Virginia to Orlando on an airplane.  The pilot made him take them off of the plane.  My friend ended up driving to Orlando instead.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: phillamb168 on August 09, 2011, 01:58:42 PM
Are they as stinky on that side of the pond as they are on this side?

You bet. I walked through a forest one day where there was a big patch of these things. You could smell them from 500 meters away.

A friend of mine tried to bring some from West Virginia to Orlando on an airplane.  The pilot made him take them off of the plane.  My friend ended up driving to Orlando instead.

Did he keep the ramps in the car, or strapped to the roof?  ;D
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: corkybstewart on August 09, 2011, 04:27:58 PM
Did you get some rain while away on vacation? They'd need something like that right?
Bump here
We've gotten 0.4 inches of rain since September of 2010, but my daughter watered the garden while we were gone. It's rained all around us but not here, and the last 2 thunderstorms we had just started more fires in the hills outside of town.
 Our tumbleweeds can grow 8' tall with or without rain.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: punatic on August 09, 2011, 06:27:02 PM
Are they as stinky on that side of the pond as they are on this side?

You bet. I walked through a forest one day where there was a big patch of these things. You could smell them from 500 meters away.

A friend of mine tried to bring some from West Virginia to Orlando on an airplane.  The pilot made him take them off of the plane.  My friend ended up driving to Orlando instead.

Did he keep the ramps in the car, or strapped to the roof?  ;D

I don't think so.  He didn't smell too good when he got back... :P
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: euge on August 09, 2011, 06:36:07 PM
I'm still picking tomatoes and peppers. :D The tom plants are about done and since it's so freakin hot and no rain at all I can hardly keep up with the watering. Next year a drip system will be installed.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: corkybstewart on August 09, 2011, 08:12:55 PM
I'm still picking tomatoes and peppers. :D The tom plants are about done and since it's so freakin hot and no rain at all I can hardly keep up with the watering. Next year a drip system will be installed.
My tomato plants are doing great, just no tomatoes for a while.  But they're blooming again so as soon as we have cooler weather we should get tomatoes again.  We've got such a great commercial chile/veggie farm up the road I quit growing peppers.
Title: Re: Watcha plantin' this spring?
Post by: andrew on August 09, 2011, 08:40:03 PM
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263269_10150278734967719_500077718_7530768_4612122_n.jpg)

Didn't plant it this spring, but it did bloom about 5 months ago. It was planted about 4 years back. The fruit is only about the size of a softball and a half, but what can you expect with only 3-4 hrs of sun light a day on a covered porch in a pot? Other than the pineapple have a bunch of herbs, a small lemon tree, a chocolate persimmon tree, and a jalapeno plant. I'm just about out of room!