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Title: My Wit is too clear!
Post by: troy@uk on January 15, 2011, 10:31:25 PM
I have a recipe for a great tasting wit beer.  The only problem is that it clears up very fast and very clear.  I use 40% wheat, oats, (w/no protein rest) and I use WLP 0400 Belgian Wit yeast fermented @ 62*. I also used Irish moss and I have transferred to a secondary for one week.  Obviously I should lose the Irish Moss and skip the secondary.

I would love to have a more cloudy beer, but don't know what aspect affects the clarity the most. What is the best wheat to use and would a protein rest help the oats? 
Title: Re: My Wit is too clear!
Post by: tumarkin on January 15, 2011, 10:33:32 PM
Randy Mosher suggests using a small amount of wheat flour to provide the cloudiness. Sorry, I'm not at home or I'd look for the amount he recommends.
Title: Re: My Wit is too clear!
Post by: dmtaylor on January 15, 2011, 10:45:55 PM
I was going to say the same thing.  Randy Mosher, Graham Sanders, and others have suggested that by adding about 1 tablespoon of wheat flour in the boil kettle, your beer will be cloudy every time.  You might want to pre-mix it in a little cold water so that it doesn't turn into a doughball, but other than that, I'm betting it will work (I haven't tried it yet but will on my next wheat).
Title: Re: My Wit is too clear!
Post by: Slowbrew on January 16, 2011, 12:05:40 AM
I was going to say the same thing.  Randy Mosher, Graham Sanders, and others have suggested that by adding about 1 tablespoon of wheat flour in the boil kettle, your beer will be cloudy every time.  You might want to pre-mix it in a little cold water so that it doesn't turn into a doughball, but other than that, I'm betting it will work (I haven't tried it yet but will on my next wheat).

It's nice to know I'm not the only one who has wheat beers come out crystal clear.  I've work so hard over the years to get clear beer it seems weird to complain about it being too clear.  I'll have to give the wheat flour a go on my next wheat.

Paul
Title: Re: My Wit is too clear!
Post by: jeffy on January 16, 2011, 12:50:32 AM
I was going to say the same thing.  Randy Mosher, Graham Sanders, and others have suggested that by adding about 1 tablespoon of wheat flour in the boil kettle, your beer will be cloudy every time.  You might want to pre-mix it in a little cold water so that it doesn't turn into a doughball, but other than that, I'm betting it will work (I haven't tried it yet but will on my next wheat).

It's nice to know I'm not the only one who has wheat beers come out crystal clear.  I've work so hard over the years to get clear beer it seems weird to complain about it being too clear.  I'll have to give the wheat flour a go on my next wheat.

Paul

Adding raw wheat in the kettle and/or in the keg has not worked for me.  My witbier gets extremely clear in the keg after a couple weeks no matter what.  I'm thinking this may be a beer that is better bottle-conditioned than kegged.
Title: Re: My Wit is too clear!
Post by: oscarvan on January 16, 2011, 02:50:21 AM
I guess the question is....what makes the German/Belgian wheat bears cloudy.......and then do that.....

Then again, I tend to over simplify things.....
Title: Re: My Wit is too clear!
Post by: whitebeard_brewer on January 16, 2011, 04:24:21 AM
Obviously I should lose the Irish Moss and skip the secondary.

That's where I would start!!!!
Title: Re: My Wit is too clear!
Post by: jeffy on January 16, 2011, 04:30:17 PM
I guess the question is....what makes the German/Belgian wheat bears cloudy.......and then do that.....

Then again, I tend to over simplify things.....

I think it's the yeast that makes the German wheat beer cloudy, but the Belgian wit yeasts floc out.  It's the difference between hazes, whether from protein or other sources.
Title: Re: My Wit is too clear!
Post by: cheba420 on January 17, 2011, 01:46:27 AM
In my experience and opinion, unless you're entering a comp, theres nothing wrong with a clear wit! In fact, for whatever reason...I prefer it.

Title: Re: My Wit is too clear!
Post by: MDixon on January 17, 2011, 02:58:00 PM
Skip the IM, skip the secondary and add a few tablespoons of flour to the boil...easy  ;)